[CTRL] CAN BELIEF IN UFO's AND ASCENSION CAUSE YOUR CHILDREN TO BE TAKEN FROM YOU?
CAN BELIEF IN UFO's AND ASCENSION CAUSE YOUR CHILDREN TO BE TAKEN FROM YOU? http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/custody_news1.html PLEASE DISTRIBUTE FAR AND WIDE Surfing The Apocalypse interview is being used as evidence against a Mother in her child custody case. May 27, 1000 By Theresa de Veto ..In April of this year the web magazine Surfing The Apocalypse published an interview with Brian Williams AKA Sargel18. In the interview Mr. Williams provided photographic evidence of orbs and other anomalous phenomena filmed at an energy vortex in Wanaque New Jersey. Today, Surfing The Apocalypse has learned that Mr. Williams' partner Sandra Rehl, who is a plaintiff in divorce proceedings has been ordered to show cause at the Supreme Court, State of New York, County of Westchester as to why an order should not be made directing the following relief: Enjoining the plaintiff from having unsupervised contact with her two children. Suspending all overnight contact between the plaintiff and the two children. Enjoining the plaintiff from permitting Bryan Williams to be in the presence of, or have contact with the children. Directing the plaintiff to pay the defendant the reasonable costs of maintaining the instant proceeding. + All this in response to items posted on the internet and a public access TV interview by Bryan Williams. Richard Rehl, the defendant in the divorce proceedings has stated that due to Sandra Rehl's belief in the existence of "aliens" and the concept of "ascension" that he has "serious concerns for the immediate health, safety and well being" of his children "both on a physical and emotional level." In the order Mr. Rehl claims: "The problem is that both of my children have expressed a belief that the aliens do exist, actually are coming through a "portal" in New Jersey and that their Mother and her paramour are in communication with and actively pursuing the aliens. My son (name withheld) recently indicated that he has actually photographed the orbs. This is a warped sense of reality." Mr.Rehl also states: "Unfortunately, she (Sandra Rehl ed.) has now embarked upon an apparent course of conduct wherein she actually incorporates our children into her pursuit of alien life forms which include without limitation convincing the children that certain photographs she possesses with her current paramour, Bryan Williams, depict actual alien "orbs" which are located in swamps in the state of New Jersey, that Mr. Williams and her have actually communicated with aliens, that Mr. Williams first communicated with aliens as a child in the Sahara desert." Surfing The Apocalypse has spoken with Sandra Rehl who stated that none of her research activity in relation to the "orbs" has ever been conducted in the presence of her children. Mr. Rehl goes on to equate the belief in ascension as a threat to the children due to it sounding "remarkably like a Hale-Bopp type situation." What Mr. Rehl is referring to here is the "Heaven's Gate" suicides of 39 people on March 28, 1997 in Rancho Santa Fe, California. Richard Rehl: "The urgency of this application is based upon my children's most recent statements to me. They are convinced the so-called "aliens" and orbs are real. Their beliefs are cause for great concern especially in light of the Plaintiff's conduct. They (Mr. Williams and Ms. Rehl ed.) recently began talking about ascension (See exhibit 2) (Surfing the Apocalypse interview ed.) The Plaintiff and Mr. Williams are apparently convinced that based upon certain celestial events and other criteria they will space travel or as they put it, the "ascension" in 2001 and that Mr. Williams intends to take a select few people with him in "2001". This is causing me tremendous concern. It sounds remarkably like a "Hale-Bopp" type situation. Their Mother and her paramour are clearly not in touch with reality and given the extreme zeal with which they are pursuing what was once presumed to be a mere fascination or ideation." + And what is the "evidence" against Sandra Rehl? ITEM 1: WEBSITE: The Orb Site This website is owned and maintained by Jack Shulman. Bryan Williams and Sandra Rehl are not the owners or maintainers of this website. ITEM 2: INTERVIEW: SURFING THE APOCALYPSE - - - The Bryan Williams/Sargel 18 Interview This Interview which was published in April is now in evidence at the New York State Supreme Court, Westchester County. ITEM 3: Bryan Williams appearance on Janet Russell's Television Show "Beyond The Unexplained." + This case could set a dangerous legal precedent. If it is possible to restrict a parent from access to their children based on their belief in aliens and ascension, it could also be possible to do so because of belief in a "supernatural" Jesus and the scenario outlined in the Bible -Book of Revelation. Should a parent be isolated from their children because the ex-spouse does not agree with their beliefs and deems them to have "a warped sense of
[CTRL] [Fwd: [RMNEWS] UFO BELIEFS USED AGAINST MOTHER IN CUSTODY CASE]
Original Message Subject: [RMNEWS] UFO BELIEFS USED AGAINST MOTHER IN CUSTODY CASE Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 00:56:20 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY=== UFO BELIEFS USED AGAINST MOTHER IN CUSTODY CASE Comment from Rayelan: UFO'S, aliens, apparitions of Mother Mary or Princess Diana, a God who dies on the cross and then ascends to heaven... If you believe in any of these things then pay attention to this court case. In the United States, judges no longer rule by law, they rule by precedent. Once a precedent is set through a victory in court, other "similar" cases can cite that precedent. If the judge agrees that the second case "matches" the first case, then the ruling follows that of the original case. Laws passed by elected legislators no longer matter. Precedents Rule! In Westchester County, NY, a husband is using belief in UFO's, Ascension and Aliens as the reason his wife should not be given custody of their children. If the court rules that a belief in aliens, UFO's and Ascension makes this woman an unfit mother, then all Christian mothers who believe in the Ascension of Jesus can also be labeled as unfit mothers and have their children taken from them. Sometimes you have to fight for the rights of people that you don't like, because if you don't, the precedent will be set, and the next child that is taken away, could be yours. Please read the following article from Surfing the Apocalypse very carefully. There is an e-mail address for the "Mother". Please let her know that you are remembering her in your prayers. Rayelan ### CAN BELIEF IN UFO's AND ASCENSION CAUSE YOUR CHILDREN TO BE TAKEN FROM YOU? A HREF="http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/custody_news1.html"Surfing The Apocalypse/A http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/custody_news1.html PLEASE DISTRIBUTE FAR AND WIDE Surfing The Apocalypse interview is being used as evidence against a Mother in her child custody case. May 27, 2000 By Theresa de Veto In April of this year the web magazine Surfing The Apocalypse published an interview with Brian Williams AKA Sargel18. In the interview Mr. Williams provided photographic evidence of orbs and other anomalous phenomena filmed at an energy vortex in Wanaque New Jersey. Today, Surfing The Apocalypse has learned that Mr. Williams' partner Sandra Rehl, who is a plaintiff in divorce proceedings, has been ordered to show cause at the Supreme Court, State of New York, County of Westchester as to why an order should not be made directing the following relief: Enjoining the plaintiff from having unsupervised contact with her two children. Suspending all overnight contact between the plaintiff and the two children. Enjoining the plaintiff from permitting Bryan Williams to be in the presence of, or have contact with the children. Directing the plaintiff to pay the defendant the reasonable costs of maintaining the instant proceeding. + All this in response to items posted on the Internet and a public access TV interview by Bryan Williams. Richard Rehl, the defendant in the divorce proceedings has stated that due to Sandra Rehl's belief in the existence of "aliens" and the concept of "ascension" that he has "serious concerns for the immediate health, safety and well being" of his children "both on a physical and emotional level." In the order Mr. Rehl claims: "The problem is that both of my children have expressed a belief that the aliens do exist, actually are coming through a "portal" in New Jersey and that their Mother and her paramour are in communication with and actively pursuing the aliens. My son (name withheld) recently indicated that he has actually photographed the orbs. This is a warped sense of reality." Mr. Rehl also states: "Unfortunately, she (Sandra Rehl ed.) has now embarked upon an apparent course of conduct wherein she actually incorporates our children into her pursuit of alien life forms which include without limitation convincing the children that certain photographs she possesses with her current paramour, Bryan Williams, depict actual alien "orbs" which are located in swamps in the state of New Jersey, that Mr. Williams and her have actually communicated with aliens, that Mr. Williams first communicated with aliens as a child in the Sahara desert." Surfing The Apocalypse has spoken with Sandra Rehl who stated that none of her research activity in relation to the "orbs" has ever been conducted in the presence of her children. Mr. Rehl goes on to equate the belief in ascension as a threat to the children due to it sounding "remarkably like a Hale-Bopp type situation." What Mr. Rehl is referring to here is the "Heaven's Gate" suicides of 39 people on March 28, 1997, in Rancho Santa Fe, California. Richard Rehl: "The urgency of this application is based upon my children's most recent statements to me. They are convinced the so-called "aliens"
[CTRL] [Fwd: [RMNEWS] RUSH BLAMES RENO FOR RUBY RIDGE -- 1992]
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Subject: [RMNEWS] RUSH BLAMES RENO FOR RUBY RIDGE -- 1992
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:18:51 -0700
From: "Rayelan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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===RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY===
April 25, 2000
RUSH BLAMES RENO FOR RUBY RIDGE --
This morning on The Rush Limbaugh radio show, Rush blamed Janet Reno for
Elian, Waco and Ruby Ridge. A lot of conservatives are blaming Reno for
Ruby
Ridge. This is no accident and it is coming from the top down.
George Herbert Walker Bush was president when the siege of Ruby Ridge
began.
It is in the best interest of all Republicans to forget this and blame
Janet
Reno for Ruby Ridge.
If you really want to know the truth -- you have to know the truth about
Republicans, conservatives, Democrats, liberals and everything else. ..
communists and Christians included! No group can be or should be
exempted
from the truth.
Now -- let's get the time line right ---
What year did Ruby Ridge happen? -- 1992
Who was president in 1992? -- George H. W. Bush -- father of George W.
Bush
When did Janet Reno become Attorney General? -- 1993 after the Siege of
Waco
BEGAN --
Do you even know what went on at Ruby Ridge? Did you take the time to
find
out the real story? Or did you just believe what the media and Hollywood
told
you?
Here is a small excerpt from someone who lived through Ruby Ridge. This
is
taken from Maynard Campbell's book: "Assault at Ruby Creek -- The Idaho
Massacre" (Campbell was jailed shortly after the publication of this
book,
and was murdered in our Federal Gulag. His story is told in "The
AmeriKan
Gulag," available from Rumor Mill News)
-- "Cowering on the floor of her dark cabin with a rifle and a Bible,
Sara
Weaver was ready to die. For days, her mother's body, covered by a
blanket,
lay in a pool of blood in the kitchen. Her brother was also dead; her
father
was wounded; and she was sure her friend Kevin Harris was slowly
bleeding to
death. Her ten month old baby sister wanted to be breast fed and was
crying
"Mama" as Federal agents lit the cabin with floodlights and tried to
coax
the
family to the door.
"I was praying that if they were going to kill us, they'd take us all at
once, because I couldn't stand to see any more of my family hurt." said
Sara
Weaver, 16, "I couldn't watch them pick us off one at a time. I was
praying
that they would just firebomb us."
Fortunately, Michael S. Vollmer has taken the time to put the facts down
on
cyberpaper. I will defer to his webpage for the rest of your education
on
the
timeline and the events that took place at Ruby Ridge --
Remember -- Ruby Ridge -- which became the precedent for Waco --
occurred
under a Republican Administration. If Republicans are outraged at what
happened to Elian -- then you need to know what your party did to a
family
in Idaho.
If you think Elian won't be scarred by what happened at Miami, you
should
ask Sara Weaver and her sister if they still have nightmares.
Ruby Ridge Updates -- What's Happening What Can We Do?
http://www.ruby-ridge.com/
From Michael's webpage --
Perhaps you won't feel as passionate as I about this issue. Perhaps you
feel
that that Randy Weaver was a racist copkiller who got what he deserved.
In
either case, I'd recommend you start first with some of the background
material that others have written. Then, I'm sure, you'll share my
passion.
"Don't call Randy Weaver paranoid. His worst fears about the government
have
already come true." Jonathan Karl
"It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." Voltaire
Is Janet Reno To Blame for Ruby Ridge?
By now anyone with access to a TV has seen yesterday morning's appalling
images of federal INS agents trashing a Miami home ("smash grab
seizure")
to "rescue" 6-year old Elian Gonzales.
Just as Randy Weaver likely would have surrendered if the local sheriff
had
knocked on his door and David Koresh could have been picked as he was
out
jogging, federal agents could have patiently waited for a more opportune
moment to effect a far less dramatic (not to mention traumatic)
transfer.
Ruby Ridge, 1992
Waco, 1993
Miami, 2000
The HK MP-5 As a Tool of Federal Domestic Policy
But to return to the question at the top of this box.
As the events in Miami have unfolded ---snip -- a number of talking
heads in
the media have blamed Janet Reno for "Ruby Ridge, Waco and now Miami".
In fact, Ruby Ridge occurred a year before Janet "Barbecue" Reno took
over
at the Justice Dept. By the time she was appointed, the government's
case
against Randy Weaver and Kevin Harris was already unraveling in a Boise
courtroom, resulting in the acquittal of Kevin Harris on all charges and
of
Randy Weaver on all charges except failure to appear.
Janet Reno could have done little with regard to Ruby Ridge except to
abort
the Federal government's pathetic prosecution; she does, however, bear
full
responsibility for the Justice Department's obfuscation
[CTRL] THE WANAQUE VORTEX - BRYAN WILLIAMS/SARGEL18 INTERVIEW
THE WANAQUE VORTEX - BRYAN WILLIAMS/SARGEL18 INTERVIEW SURFING THE APOCALYPSE http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com has obtained an exclusive interview with Bryan Williams/Sargel18. Williams has discovered and photographed a "vortex" in Wanaque, New Jersey. He claims to be in contact with "interdimensional aliens" that are using this portal to gain entrance into our (3rd) dimension. In the interview, Bryan Williams/Sargel18 discusses what he has learned from the "Endorians," a reptilian race of beings that is on the side of humankind. Williams/Sargel18 states that the Endorians are working to defeat the "Dragons," a negative reptilian race who's mission is to enslave humanity. Bryan Williams/Sargel18 has provided stunning photographic evidence to further his claims, including what is believed to be the only known photo of a "reptilian alien being sticking it's head out of it's light body." Other photos include, the Jersey Devil, demons, angels, robed grey aliens, a dinosaur-type creature, orbships and many others. You can find the interview and photos at the Surfing The Apocalypse Website at: http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com -- "Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehoods school. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool." -Plato A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: [surfingtheapocalypse] VIRGIN MARY APPEARS NEAR ELIAN GONZALEZ]
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Original Message Subject: [surfingtheapocalypse] VIRGIN MARY "APPEARS" NEAR ELIAN GONZALEZ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:45:43 - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary 'appears' near Elian http://www.herald.com/content/sun/docs/025573.htm BY SANDRA MARQUEZ GARCIA [EMAIL PROTECTED] A cloud-like image believed by some to be an apparition of the Virgin Mary graced the window pane of a Miami bank located just blocks from the home of Elian Gonzalez Saturday -- stopping traffic and offering hope to hundreds of supporters who want to keep the Cuban boy here. Bank employees first spotted the luminous reflection -- capped by an iridescent mixture of gold, purple and green -- earlier this week. As word of the vision spread, and the colors failed to fade with repeated cleanings, the entrance of Totalbank, 468 NW 27th Ave., has come to resemble a shrine. On Saturday, women with curlers still in their hair hastily dropped their chores to pay homage to the Virgin. They were joined by families in sport-utility vehicles with camcorders and others on their way home from weddings and grocery stores. Some people rubbed their babies against the window pane for good luck. Others scrubbed the surface with paper towels to see if they could make the image go away. Tessy Lopez, 62, of Miami Beach beamed with joy as she regarded the apparition. Like many others gathered at the site, Lopez said she considered it to be a sign of an impending miracle for Elian, the 6-year-old Cuban rafter who survived a voyage that killed his mother and 10 others. ''I think that boy is blessed. Many people gave their lives for that boy, and he lives blocks from here,'' Lopez said. ''We must realize this is an important sign.'' Louise Molina, 47, of Fontainebleau described the vision this way: ''I can see that she has a golden glow above her head, and she is looking down. To me that means sadness.'' Molina said there is an obvious desire by many to regard the apparition as a symbol of hope for Elian. But she believed it has broader meaning. ''She wants us to change our ways,'' Molina said. ''When people have faith they do good things.'' Not everyone was able to distinguish the Virgin from the cloudy reflection. ''I see the reflections, but I don't see it,'' said Carmen Rodriguez, 50, with a tinge of disappointment. ''I think some people can see it and others not. Perhaps it's based on necessity.'' Eulalia Asencio, 29, expressed skepticism. She said she had carefully touched the window pane to see if air conditioning might have caused the image to appear. ''It looks like when you get Windex and then you have that rainbow action going on,'' Asencio said. ''I really think it is the reflection of the light.'' A few blocks away, Armando Gutierrez, the spokesman for Elian's Miami relatives, said he had driven past the bank building but had not stopped to see for himself. ''All signs are good signs,'' said Gutierrez, who described Elian's great-uncle, Lazaro Gonzalez, and his family as ''very religious.'' One day after the Immigration and Naturalization Service issued a new ultimatum to the family to agree to a speedy appeal of the custody dispute over the boy,Gutierrez said Elian's defense team still had not met to discuss their response. The family plans to appeal a federal judge's decision last week upholding the INS decision to send the boy back to his father in Cuba. Lead attorney Spencer Eig is Jewish and working on a Saturday would violate his religious beliefs, Gutierrez said. ''We cannot discuss the letter until sundown [Saturday],'' Gutierrez said. Some 50 Elian supporters camped outside the boy's home said they were on a state of ''high alert'' awaiting word from exile leaders on when to mobilize a civil disobedience campaign in Miami. Among the actions already under way: a petition drive and lots of praying, said Felisa Torre, who packed sandwiches and a beach chair to make her vigil outside the home more comfortable. ''We are praying so that the heart of Señorita [Janet] Reno will become sweeter and she will see that Elian is a poor boy who cannot go back to Cuba,'' Torre said, referring to the U.S. attorney general. http://www.herald.com/content/sun/docs/025573.htm SURFING THE APOCALYPSE http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com Special Offer-Earn 300 Points from MyPoints.com for trying @Backup Get automatic protection and access to your important computer files. Install today: http://click.egroups.com/1/2344/6/_/_/_/954164753/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ==
[CTRL] [Fwd: WHISTLE BLOWER BANNED FROM COURTS FOREVER]
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Original Message Subject: WHISTLE BLOWER BANNED FROM COURTS FOREVER Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:10:36 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] RMNews just recieved an email from Rodney Stich in which he stated he has been barred from filing lawsuits against government corruption forever!!! If the government can use the court system to keep its corruption hidden from the people --- what hope do we have of ever getting justice? FROM RODNEY STICH --- ONE OF THE ORIGINAL WHISTLE BLOWERS -- AUTHOR OF DEFRAUDING AMERICA DISAVOW DRUGGING AMERICA UNFRIENDLY SKIES A HREF="http://www.defraudingamerica.com/"Introduction and description of widespread government corruption./A http://www.defraudingamerica.com/ THE ABOVE LINK WILL TAKE YOU TO ALL RODNEY'S BOOKS --- RODNEY WROTE TO RAYELAN ALLAN: For your information: I went to the Oakland U.S. district court last Monday and submitted my lawsit to the clerk. It seems they were waiting for me. What happened next is very important and has serious national implications. The clerk advised me that they cannot allow me to file anything in the court, that Judge Marily Patel had rendered an order in 1988 barring me for the remainder of my life from filing anything in court and in that way voiding for me all rights and protections under the laws and Constitution of the United States. Now, this has very serious implications, that any judge can block a whistleblower from reporting federal crimes to a federal judge, as provided by Title 18 USC Section 4, and that the whistleblower suffering government retaliation by federal judges cannot defend himself. This is not hyperbole. This is real! One ramification of this is that federal judges are willing to prostitute the laws and Constitution of the United States when it suits them, such as blocking reporting of federal crimes in which they themselves are implicated. I will attach to this a copy of the lawsuit that I tried to file. The lawsuit is also on the web site at www.defraudingamerica.com, with a click at the bottom of that page. A HREF="http://www.defraudingamerica.com/lawsuit_highlights.html"Highlights of lawsuit exposing documented pattern of judicial corruption./A http://www.defraudingamerica.com/lawsuit_highlights.html A HREF="http://www.defraudingamerica.com/lawsuit_complaint.html"Federal lawsuit documenting wide pattern of judicial corruption/A http://www.defraudingamerica.com/lawsuit_complaint.html Although I am the plaintiff in that lawsuit, it could have been used as a platform by any group wanting to expose the documented pattern of corruption in federal courts. It needs an attorney to file so as to get filed in court. I'm weighing my options. There is also the possibility, or proability, tht Judge Patel will charge me with criminal contempt of court and with the help of Justice Department prosecutors send me to federal prison for having sought to report federal crimes and trying to defend myself against judicially inflicted civil rights violations. What country are we in, for god sake! -- Rodney Stich, E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.unfriendlyskies.com http://www.defraudingamerica.com http://www.druggingamerica.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DRUDGE:
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- http://www.drudgereport.com/matt.htm X DRUDGE REPORT X THU MARCH 15 2000 20:58:01 ET X REPORT: CENSUS BUREAU LINKED TO WWII INTERNMENT OF JAPANESE-AMERICANS The NEW YORK TIMES is reporting in Friday editions that "[t]wo scholars say in a new research paper that despite earlier denials, the Census Bureau was deeply involved in the roundup and internment of Japanese-Americans at the onset of U.S. entry into World War II." According to TIMES' scribe Steven Holmes, the Census Buerau helped identify "concentrations of people of Japanese ancestry in geographic units as small as city blocks." The bureau is said to have given vital statistics -- including age, sex, citizenship and country of birth -- on only Japanese-Americans to the War Department (now known as the Defense Department). The research paper cited is entitled "After Pearl Harbor: The Proper Role of Population Data Systems in Time of War" and was written by Margo Anderson, a history professor at the University of Wisconsin (Milwaukee) and William Seltzer, a statistician and demographer at Fordham University. It will be released next week in Los Angeles at the annual Population Association of America meeting. Japanese-Americans have long suspected that the Census Bureau played a prominent role in the relocation of 120,000 residents of Japanese ancestry to detention camps. Former California congressman Norman Mineta, who spent time in a Wyoming detention center tells the paper: "We've always suspected this. After all, they are the keeper of this kind of information." Writes Holmes: "The Census Bureau often boasted that its conduct in the relocation of Japanese-Americans had been its finest hour because it resisted pressure to provide explicit data to the War and Justice Departments. But Census Bureau officials do not dispute the findings of the paper." Developing... http://www.drudgereport.com/matt.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE EBAY HAUNTED PAINTING INTERVIEW
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- THE EBAY HAUNTED PAINTING INTERVIEW March 13,2000 SURFING THE APOCALYPSE http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com FEBRUARY 2000 A "Haunted Painting" was placed for sale to the highest bidder at the online auction site Ebay. SURFING THE APOCALYPSE has obtained an exclusive interview with the new owner of the painting. "We were curious to know if the painting really did exhibit any signs of being haunted." "What we found was even more perplexing!" It seems that some viewers of the PHOTOS of the painting have experienced some "disturbing" effects! Everything from an "exorcist type of voice" to a printer that refused to print the photos! The complete interview, the original copy of the ad and the photos can be found at the Surfing The Apocalypse Website. http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com Mass Internet Hysteria? Or is there something to it? SURFING THE APOCALYPSE A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Mission To Mars...The NASA/Touchstone Version Of The Monuments Of Mars?
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Original Message Subject: [surfingtheapocalypse] "Mission to Mars":The NASA/Touchstone Version of "The Monuments of Mars?" Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:56:14 - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello: Something to keep in mind about the new movie: "Mission To Mars." WHY Has the NASA "supported"/ Touchstone Film replaced the HOMINID "Face On Mars" With One Of An ALIEN GREY? Hmmm... v2o http://www.surfingtheapocalyse.com FROM http://www.enterprisemission.com/MTM.htm The Enterprise Mission CONTACT INFORMATION: MICHAEL BARA [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Note - I am not able to respond to all e-mails, but I will read them -- MB) RICHARD C. HOAGLAND - The Enterprise Mission P. O. Box 1130 Placitas NM 87043 FAX - (505) 771-0820 © 1999 THE ENTERPRISE MISSION "Mission to Mars": The NASA/Touchstone Version of "The Monuments of Mars?" © 2000 The Enterprise Mission Almost a quarter of a century ago, an unmanned NASA robot -- Viking 1 -- looked down on Mars from a high orbit. And in a northern Martian desert called "Cydonia" it photographed a remarkable collection of astonishingly artificial-looking objects Including, a mile-long humanoid "face" aligned with an equally out-of-place, highly geometric grouping of massive "Martian pyramids!" Thus began a generation-long, intense (some would even say "bitter") political and scientific controversy. Long-standing, vehement government denials (NASA) that Viking had spotted "anything unusual" ... confronted and opposed by an equally vigorous series of independent scientific studies attesting to the extraordinary scientific nature of "the Face": As the centerpiece of a long-vanished, "Martian" extraterrestrial civilization. The head of one of those independent Cydonia research efforts for almost twenty years, former NASA consultant and Angstrom Medal of Science Award Winner, Richard C. Hoagland, has authored an extensive history of this generation-long scientific controversy. In "The Monuments of Mars" (North Atlantic, Berkeley, 4th Edition, 1996) Hoagland details both the painstaking scientific research conducted by himself and a score of other scientists on the strange features discovered at Cydonia, as well as the bizarre quarter-of-a-century official NASA effort to categorically deny any of this science. Now, over a generation after it was initially discovered and then repeatedly, deliberately denied a 120 million-dollar feature film from Touchstone Pictures (Disney Corporation) titled "Mission to Mars: Let There Be Life" will finally confront (and with NASA's backing, no less!) the overwhelming controversies of "the Face" Including, the true Origins of Humanity itself the ultimate Meaning -- and a key reason for Hoagland's 17-year-old unceasing odyssey -- behind "the Monuments of Mars." The plot of Disney's forthcoming big budget "Mission to Mars" (Release Date: March 10, 2000) is easily recognized as "half Ray Bradbury," half "NASA `Cydonia spin.'" To whit: a manned Mars mission departs for the Red Planet only to disappear (sounds a little like NASA's current real-world history, doesn't it?). So, a second "Mars Recovery Mission" is hurriedly dispatched. Objective: determine what happened to the first Expedition and, if possible, rescue any surviving crew. With the arrival on Mars of the Second Expedition all hell breaks loose. Presented through a tour de force of "unprecedented Hollywood special effects" (according to Touchstone's publicists), the lavish visuals embedded in the Mars film have been specifically designed to "intensely illustrate" the "ancient alien science and technology awakened by NASA's unwanted presence on the planet" ... NASA backing (control?) of this major wide screen effort is overwhelmingly apparent from the Touchstone Pictures official "Mission to Mars" Website (which remarkably, given the decades of independent science and public controversy surrounding the overall Cydonia Question, lists only other NASA "Mars links" on the subject), to the NASA "Mars scientists" officially hired for the project. Nowhere, in any of the Touchstone (or NASA) publicity covering this unique film after more than twenty years of outright denial, a sudden, government-supported introduction to the stunning possibilities of "Martian neighbors" -- will one find the astonishing, real story behi
