[CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Satanist in the Army]
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Mike & Kathy Moxley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >Ah, you'll only confuse the fundy jeezoids, who'll ignore you anyway. > >> > >> BIGOTRY and ignorance at it's best. > > > >Vagueness at its worst, with a bit of the ol' ad hominem implied. I > >should ask you just what you thought I was ignorant of and bigoted > >towards, Mike and/or Kathy. Am I displaying bigotry towards all > >believers, or all Xians, or fundamentalists of any stripe, or Xians > >of specific sects, or monotheists, or trinitarians, or Wiccans, or > >the US Army, or GLBTs, or who? Am I displaying ignorance of some of > >the thousands of contradictory Xian doctrines, or of the nature of > >monotheism, or of the inner workings of your consciousness, or what? > >Be more specific, please. And be civil. That's the rule here. > > >From WordNet (r) 1.6 (wn) > bigot n : a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing > from his own. > Syn: Prejudiced; intolerant; narrow-minded. > > Examples of BIGOTRY: > Referring to Muslims as Ragheads. > Referring to Blacks as Niggers. > Referring to Christians as fundy jeezoids. > > You should look up the word CIVIL. So you can follow the rules here. First: I have addressed NO characterizations to you, Mike and/or Kathy, so I haven't been uncivil to you. Nor will I. Second: I didn't refer to Xians as fundy jeezoids. There are many Xians who aren't fundy jeezoids - Quakers, among others. But IMHO enthusiastic fundamentalist Xians who adhere to modern heresies CAN be adequately tagged as fundy jeezoids, for reasons I'll discuss below. Third: One may be born into an ethnic group, such groups as Arabs, Blacks, Jews, Irish, Romani, etc. It is despicable to use ethnic epithets against members of such groups. In fact, the only ethnic 'humor' I find tolerable is aimed at EXTINCT groups, such as Tasmanians or Carthaginians, who have no extant members to be insulted. [Q: How many Tasmanians does it take to change a light bulb? A: None, they're all dead.] But fundy jeezoids are made, not born. Nobody forces one to adhere to modern heresies, so such individuals are fair game for criticism of their beliefs. Forth: Fundamentalism of any stripe, Xian or Muslim or Judaic or Sciento- logical or whatever, is not merely a belief system, it's a conspiracy to deprive others of their legal rights. Fundy jeezoids are at the forefront of criminal conspiracies to obliterate: freedom of reproductive choice; freedom of worship & freedom FROM worship; freedom of expression; freedom of self-medication; freedom of travel; et al. I call members of fascist conspiracies, Nazis. I call members of repressive Xian conspiracies, fundy jeezoids. I call members of oppressive gov't conspiracies, pigs. Fifth: Modern Xian fundamentalism, as well as Roman Catholicism, Protes- tantism, and such offshoots are Mormonism and Millerite Millennialism [including Adventists, Witnesses and XianSci's], are all heretical sects in that they recognize Apocalypse/Revelations as canonical; abjure the Gospel of Barnabas; ignore the words of Yeshua in favor of the writings of Saul/Paul, the torturer and death-squad leader who persecuted the Nazarenes and invented Xianity; and have otherwise strayed from this core of the faith. Those who claim to "follow Jesus" while adhering to such heresies are indeed jeezoids, just as a lie is a factoid. Sixth: You still didn't specify just what you think I'm ignorant of. But that's just as well; we don't want to devolve into ad hominems here. Ric "God WAS my copilot but we crashed in the Andes so I ate Her" Carter DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Satanist in the Army]
-Caveat Lector- At 02:57 PM 6/14/99 -0700, you wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >- Original Message - >From: Mike & Kathy Moxley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >Ah, you'll only confuse the fundy jeezoids, who'll ignore you anyway. >> > >> >The basis of any self-proclaimed monotheism [even a trinitarian one] >> >is that 1) MY God is the ONLY real God, thus 2) YOUR god is a false >> >god ie Satan, thus 3) whatever YOU believe is evil and must be zapped. >> > >> >Hey, *is* there a difference between good and evil? And does anyone >> >here plan to watch the upcoming G&E [Good & Evil] series on the USA >> >TV network? Or are there better ways to waste time, like sex & drugs? >> > >> >BTW the US Army's acceptance of Wicca show that either a) the military >> >is still at the forefront of social change, b) Satanists have captured >> >the Pentagon, c) it's possible to join the Army and have fun without >> >killing people, d) Wiccans are more acceptable militarily than GLBTs >> >[gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgendered persons], e) fundy jeezoids don't >> >have enough minutiae to fret about, f) all or none of the above. >> >> BIGOTRY and ignorance at it's best. > >Vagueness at its worst, with a bit of the ol' ad hominem implied. I >should ask you just what you thought I was ignorant of and bigoted >towards, Mike and/or Kathy. Am I displaying bigotry towards all >believers, or all Xians, or fundamentalists of any stripe, or Xians >of specific sects, or monotheists, or trinitarians, or Wiccans, or >the US Army, or GLBTs, or who? Am I displaying ignorance of some of >the thousands of contradictory Xian doctrines, or of the nature of >monotheism, or of the inner workings of your consciousness, or what? > >Be more specific, please. And be civil. That's the rule here. > > Ric "sure I believe in gods, I carved a couple this morning" Carter > >From WordNet (r) 1.6 (wn) bigot n : a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own. Syn: Prejudiced; intolerant; narrow-minded. Examples of BIGOTRY: Referring to Muslims as Ragheads. Referring to Blacks as Niggers. Referring to Christians as fundy jeezoids. You should look up the word CIVIL. So you can follow the rules here. ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ **Live Free or Die!**<>< DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Satanist in the Army]
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Mike & Kathy Moxley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Ah, you'll only confuse the fundy jeezoids, who'll ignore you anyway. > > > >The basis of any self-proclaimed monotheism [even a trinitarian one] > >is that 1) MY God is the ONLY real God, thus 2) YOUR god is a false > >god ie Satan, thus 3) whatever YOU believe is evil and must be zapped. > > > >Hey, *is* there a difference between good and evil? And does anyone > >here plan to watch the upcoming G&E [Good & Evil] series on the USA > >TV network? Or are there better ways to waste time, like sex & drugs? > > > >BTW the US Army's acceptance of Wicca show that either a) the military > >is still at the forefront of social change, b) Satanists have captured > >the Pentagon, c) it's possible to join the Army and have fun without > >killing people, d) Wiccans are more acceptable militarily than GLBTs > >[gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgendered persons], e) fundy jeezoids don't > >have enough minutiae to fret about, f) all or none of the above. > > BIGOTRY and ignorance at it's best. Vagueness at its worst, with a bit of the ol' ad hominem implied. I should ask you just what you thought I was ignorant of and bigoted towards, Mike and/or Kathy. Am I displaying bigotry towards all believers, or all Xians, or fundamentalists of any stripe, or Xians of specific sects, or monotheists, or trinitarians, or Wiccans, or the US Army, or GLBTs, or who? Am I displaying ignorance of some of the thousands of contradictory Xian doctrines, or of the nature of monotheism, or of the inner workings of your consciousness, or what? Be more specific, please. And be civil. That's the rule here. Ric "sure I believe in gods, I carved a couple this morning" Carter DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Satanist in the Army]
-Caveat Lector- At 10:02 AM 6/14/99 -0700, you wrote: >Ah, you'll only confuse the fundy jeezoids, who'll ignore you anyway. > >The basis of any self-proclaimed monotheism [even a trinitarian one] >is that 1) MY God is the ONLY real God, thus 2) YOUR god is a false >god ie Satan, thus 3) whatever YOU believe is evil and must be zapped. > >Hey, *is* there a difference between good and evil? And does anyone >here plan to watch the upcoming G&E [Good & Evil] series on the USA >TV network? Or are there better ways to waste time, like sex & drugs? > >BTW the US Army's acceptance of Wicca show that either a) the military >is still at the forefront of social change, b) Satanists have captured >the Pentagon, c) it's possible to join the Army and have fun without >killing people, d) Wiccans are more acceptable militarily than GLBTs >[gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgendered persons], e) fundy jeezoids don't >have enough minutiae to fret about, f) all or none of the above. BIGOTRY and ignorance at it's best. ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ **Live Free or Die!**<>< DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Satanist in the Army]
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Robert Tatman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Witches are somebody else. > > > You have to be a Christian before you can be a Satanist, if for no other > reason than that Satanists invert traditional Christian symbolism and > liturgy. Witches are ostensibly followers of a pre-Christian religion, > sometimes called the "Old Religion," which does not recognize the Jewish/ > Christian/Muslim (and therefore Satanist) distinction between good and > evil. That's a VAST oversimplification, but it may straighten out some > of the confusion, if anyone is listening. Ah, you'll only confuse the fundy jeezoids, who'll ignore you anyway. The basis of any self-proclaimed monotheism [even a trinitarian one] is that 1) MY God is the ONLY real God, thus 2) YOUR god is a false god ie Satan, thus 3) whatever YOU believe is evil and must be zapped. Hey, *is* there a difference between good and evil? And does anyone here plan to watch the upcoming G&E [Good & Evil] series on the USA TV network? Or are there better ways to waste time, like sex & drugs? BTW the US Army's acceptance of Wicca show that either a) the military is still at the forefront of social change, b) Satanists have captured the Pentagon, c) it's possible to join the Army and have fun without killing people, d) Wiccans are more acceptable militarily than GLBTs [gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgendered persons], e) fundy jeezoids don't have enough minutiae to fret about, f) all or none of the above. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Satanist in the Army]
-Caveat Lector- nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > >A GROUP of American conservative religious organisations is demanding > that Christians boycott the US Army and all of its works until the > military ends support for its latest denominations: witches and satanists. > > > For those who can't tell a witch from a satanist, here's a clue. Lt. > Col. Michael Aquino, head of the Temple of Set, is a satanist. You > remember him, he's the psy-war expert who squirmed out of that cut and > dried kiddie porn case in San Francisco a couple years ago. > > > Witches are somebody else. > You have to be a Christian before you can be a Satanist, if for no other reason than that Satanists invert traditional Christian symbolism and liturgy. Witches are ostensibly followers of a pre-Christian religion, sometimes called the "Old Religion," which does not recognize the Jewish/Christian/Muslim (and therefore Satanist) distinction between good and evil. That's a VAST oversimplification, but it may straighten out some of the confusion, if anyone is listening. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
