Re: [CTRL] [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC] Mel Gibson's Jesus / Jews as Christ-killers (fwd)

2003-08-14 Thread David Sutherland
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Mel is a bloke who not only knows how to juggle 
his balls, (as his profession was once known), but also knows how to exploit, 
promote and show them offso as to get lots of bums on theatre seats and 
lots of Dollar$ in his ever-bourgeoning bank account!

The Gospel accounts indicate that some of the 
Jews were responsible for plotting the murder of Jesus just as much as they 
state that the Romans were Christs final executioners.

However, at the end of the day, central to the NT 
and Gospel narrative is not who plotted or done the physical deed, but that 
Jesus bore the 'sins of the whole world' and that not one individual present 
andpast living or dead can escape that judgement.

It is the most absurd and idiotic thing to call 
flics and tales about Jesus anti-Semitic becausethey are tales written and 
told for, byand about Jews.

If you want anti-Semitic literature, the finest 
you will ever find is the Hebrew Old Testament itself. You can't tell me that's 
a story of a deity happy witha nation ofso-called "chosen 
people".
Dave.


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as Christ-killers The Jews are 
probably correct as you note below about "Christians" which is why I am 
not one. OTOH, what kind of "Christian" sides with the Jewish claim to 
be the "lost sheep of Israel" sought by Jesus Christ? NONE of 
those Jews to whom you refer are PRO- the teachings of Jesus Christ. All 
are ANTI- the teachings of Jesus Christ, ie all are among the 
'antichrists' in I John 2:22. Show us where Jesus Christ says, 
"Love MY enemies". He only says, "Love YOUR enemies". 
POC (Learned Elders of 
Zion) * http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens ** On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Bob S. 
wrote:   I love the controversy over Mel 
Gibson's Jesus movie, THE PASSION!  (See article below my 
rant.)   The Jews say that Gibson portrays Jews as 
Christ-killers.  Jews don't say that Jewish movies, comic books, 
etc. often ridicule  Christianity  insult the Christian 
faith.   Ha ha.   For example 
Mel Brooks' BLAZING SADDLES portrays a Christian  congregation as a 
bunch of morons  Jew Gene Wilder analyzes  Christian 
congregation thusly, "these are common-clave people ...  You know, 
MORONS."   Jewish (Vertigo/DC - COHANIM president  
editor-in-chief Jeanette  Kahn) comic book series PREACHER had Grail 
cult kidnapping children  of Jesus  Mary Magdalene, 
incestuously interbredding them for 2000  years for second coming of 
idiot descendant offspring of Jesus!   Futurama comic 
book story CHRISTMAS issue had Futurama crew doing  zombie Jesus 
play. Get it? Christians believe that Jesus rose from  dead, so Jews 
say Jesus must be zombie. Zombie Jesus libel was also  on tv series 
in episode likely written by goddamn Jew.   Mel Gibson 
is member of reactionary Catholic sect which rejects  Vatican II. 
Before Vatican II Catholic Church called Jews "Christ-  killers." 
Since Vatican II, Catholic Church characterized Jews  as 
"perfidious", only stopped calling Jews "perfidious" few years  
ago.   http://www.thesoutherncross.co.za/church%20and%20judaism.htm  http://www.americancatholic.org/messenger/jul2000/feature2_sidebara.a  sp   quoting 
 1959-Pope John XXIII orders that the reference to "perfidious Jews" 
 be removed from the Good Friday liturgy. These prayers were  
completely revised after Vatican II. Between 1959 and 1963, Pope  
John XXIII meets with individual Jewish leaders and with Jewish  
groups. Pope Paul VI continues this practice.  
quoting   http://www.volasia.com/forum/topicDisplay.php?topicID=288  http://www.catholicism.org/News/rabbigibson.htmBob is neither Catholic 
nor Jew.  Bob is not religious Christian but is ethnic 
Christian.  Bob is agnostic who HATES Zionism  double-standard 
where is OK for  Jews to insult Christians but isn't OK for 
Christians to insult Jews. 
Mel Gibson's Jesus / Jews as Christ-killers   http://angrywhitefemale.net/mel-gibson.html   The Passion, a movie being directed by 
Mel Gibson, will be an  accurate historical account of the 
crucifixion of Jesus Christ.  Accurate is the operative word here. 
The Jews have spent many moons  in Hollywood re-writing White 
history for the stupid goyim, and have  managed to make a huge 
profit from the goyim's historical ignorance  and fear of the 
anti-Semite label. So, the words "accurate depiction  of the 
crucifixion of Christ" 

Re: [CTRL] [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC] Mel Gibson's Jesus / Jews as Christ-killers (fwd)

2003-08-14 Thread Party of Citizens
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, David Sutherland wrote:

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 Mel is a bloke who not only knows how to juggle his balls, (as his profession was 
 once known), but also knows how to exploit, promote and show them off so as to get 
 lots of bums on theatre seats and lots of Dollar$ in his ever-bourgeoning bank 
 account!

 The Gospel accounts indicate that some of the Jews were responsible for plotting the 
 murder of Jesus just as much as they state that the Romans were Christs final 
 executioners.


And clearly that was the great schism in Judaism. Thereafter there were
Pro-Christ Jews and Anti-Christ Jews. Since the Anti-Christ Jews
excommunicated the Pro-Christ Jews the latter changed their name and
initially called themselves Christians.

POC
(LEZ)

 However, at the end of the day, central to the NT and Gospel narrative is not who 
 plotted or done the physical deed, but that Jesus bore the 'sins of the whole world' 
 and that not one individual present and past living or dead can escape that 
 judgement.

 It is the most absurd and idiotic thing to call flics and tales about Jesus 
 anti-Semitic because they are tales written and told for, by and about Jews.

 If you want anti-Semitic literature, the finest you will ever find is the Hebrew Old 
 Testament itself. You can't tell me that's a story of a deity happy with a nation of 
 so-called chosen people.

 Dave.




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  Subject: Re: [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC] Mel Gibson's Jesus / Jews as
  Christ-killers
 
  The Jews are probably correct as you note below about Christians which
  is why I am not one. OTOH, what kind of Christian sides with the Jewish
  claim to be the lost sheep of Israel sought by Jesus Christ?
 
  NONE of those Jews to whom you refer are PRO- the teachings of Jesus
  Christ. All are ANTI- the teachings of Jesus Christ, ie all are among the
  'antichrists' in I John 2:22.
 
  Show us where Jesus Christ says, Love MY enemies. He only says, Love
  YOUR enemies.
 
  POC
  (Learned Elders of Zion)
 
   * http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens **
 
  On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Bob S. wrote:
 
  
   I love the controversy over Mel Gibson's Jesus movie, THE PASSION!
   (See article below my rant.)
  
   The Jews say that Gibson portrays Jews as Christ-killers.
   Jews don't say that Jewish movies, comic books, etc. often ridicule
   Christianity  insult the Christian faith.
  
   Ha ha.
  
   For example Mel Brooks' BLAZING SADDLES portrays a Christian
   congregation as a bunch of morons  Jew Gene Wilder analyzes
   Christian congregation thusly, these are common-clave people ...
   You know, MORONS.
  
   Jewish (Vertigo/DC - COHANIM president  editor-in-chief Jeanette
   Kahn) comic book series PREACHER had Grail cult kidnapping children
   of Jesus  Mary Magdalene, incestuously interbredding them for 2000
   years for second coming of idiot descendant offspring of Jesus!
  
   Futurama comic book story CHRISTMAS issue had Futurama crew doing
   zombie Jesus play. Get it? Christians believe that Jesus rose from
   dead, so Jews say Jesus must be zombie. Zombie Jesus libel was also
   on tv series in episode likely written by goddamn Jew.
  
   Mel Gibson is member of reactionary Catholic sect which rejects
   Vatican II. Before Vatican II Catholic Church called Jews Christ-
   killers. Since Vatican II, Catholic Church characterized Jews
   as perfidious, only stopped calling Jews perfidious few years
   ago.
  
   http://www.thesoutherncross.co.za/church%20and%20judaism.htm
   http://www.americancatholic.org/messenger/jul2000/feature2_sidebara.a
   sp
  
   quoting
   1959-Pope John XXIII orders that the reference to perfidious Jews
   be removed from the Good Friday liturgy. These prayers were
   completely revised after Vatican II. Between 1959 and 1963, Pope
   John XXIII meets with individual Jewish leaders and with Jewish
   groups. Pope Paul VI continues this practice.
   quoting
  
   http://www.volasia.com/forum/topicDisplay.php?topicID=288
   http://www.catholicism.org/News/rabbigibson.htm
  
  
   Bob is neither Catholic nor Jew.
   Bob is not religious Christian but is ethnic Christian.
   Bob is agnostic who HATES Zionism  double-standard where is OK for
   Jews to insult Christians but isn't OK for Christians to insult 

Re: [CTRL] [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC] Mel Gibson's Jesus / Jews as Christ-killers (fwd)

2003-08-03 Thread Party of Citizens
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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Subject: Re: [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC] Mel Gibson's Jesus / Jews as
Christ-killers

The Jews are probably correct as you note below about Christians which
is why I am not one. OTOH, what kind of Christian sides with the Jewish
claim to be the lost sheep of Israel sought by Jesus Christ?

NONE of those Jews to whom you refer are PRO- the teachings of Jesus
Christ. All are ANTI- the teachings of Jesus Christ, ie all are among the
'antichrists' in I John 2:22.

Show us where Jesus Christ says, Love MY enemies. He only says, Love
YOUR enemies.

POC
(Learned Elders of Zion)

 * http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens **

On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Bob S. wrote:


 I love the controversy over Mel Gibson's Jesus movie, THE PASSION!
 (See article below my rant.)

 The Jews say that Gibson portrays Jews as Christ-killers.
 Jews don't say that Jewish movies, comic books, etc. often ridicule
 Christianity  insult the Christian faith.

 Ha ha.

 For example Mel Brooks' BLAZING SADDLES portrays a Christian
 congregation as a bunch of morons  Jew Gene Wilder analyzes
 Christian congregation thusly, these are common-clave people ...
 You know, MORONS.

 Jewish (Vertigo/DC - COHANIM president  editor-in-chief Jeanette
 Kahn) comic book series PREACHER had Grail cult kidnapping children
 of Jesus  Mary Magdalene, incestuously interbredding them for 2000
 years for second coming of idiot descendant offspring of Jesus!

 Futurama comic book story CHRISTMAS issue had Futurama crew doing
 zombie Jesus play. Get it? Christians believe that Jesus rose from
 dead, so Jews say Jesus must be zombie. Zombie Jesus libel was also
 on tv series in episode likely written by goddamn Jew.

 Mel Gibson is member of reactionary Catholic sect which rejects
 Vatican II. Before Vatican II Catholic Church called Jews Christ-
 killers. Since Vatican II, Catholic Church characterized Jews
 as perfidious, only stopped calling Jews perfidious few years
 ago.

 http://www.thesoutherncross.co.za/church%20and%20judaism.htm
 http://www.americancatholic.org/messenger/jul2000/feature2_sidebara.a
 sp

 quoting
 1959—Pope John XXIII orders that the reference to perfidious Jews
 be removed from the Good Friday liturgy. These prayers were
 completely revised after Vatican II. Between 1959 and 1963, Pope
 John XXIII meets with individual Jewish leaders and with Jewish
 groups. Pope Paul VI continues this practice.
 quoting

 http://www.volasia.com/forum/topicDisplay.php?topicID=288
 http://www.catholicism.org/News/rabbigibson.htm


 Bob is neither Catholic nor Jew.
 Bob is not religious Christian but is ethnic Christian.
 Bob is agnostic who HATES Zionism  double-standard where is OK for
 Jews to insult Christians but isn't OK for Christians to insult Jews.



 Mel Gibson's Jesus / Jews as Christ-killers

 http://angrywhitefemale.net/mel-gibson.html

 The Passion, a movie being directed by Mel Gibson, will be an
 accurate historical account of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
 Accurate is the operative word here. The Jews have spent many moons
 in Hollywood re-writing White history for the stupid goyim, and have
 managed to make a huge profit from the goyim's historical ignorance
 and fear of the anti-Semite label. So, the words accurate depiction
 of the crucifixion of Christ when used by devout Catholic Mel
 Gibson raised blood red flags in Hebewood and Jew York. The thought
 (now reality) of a goy director making a movie depicting an
 historical truth about Jews has created a firestorm in the
 Pharisees' communities. Why, only the Juden are permitted to define
 history, thinketh the Jewish supremacists. A cursory review will
 quickly expose the fact that Jews write and direct virtually every
 single anti-White, pro-miscegenation, anti-moral and anti-Christian
 movie, while paying no heed to protests from outraged-but-sheeplike
 Christian groups who continue to identify these Jews as Atheists
 and Pagans. You wouldn't know it, but Christians oppose lies and
 defamations about their Lord and Savior in flicks such as The Last
 Temptation of Christ and Jewish-reeking museum exhibits such
 as pissing on Christ. But portray the Jews' ancestors accurately,
 and it is anti-Semitism.

 Gimme a break!

 The fact that Jews control so much of what we think via Hollywood
 lends an air of mystery and awe to this Gibson vs. the Jews dispute.
 The man just may be something like William Wallace and The Patriot!
 Just imagine the Jews in power shaking in their boots at the
 prospect of being accurately portrayed as Christ-killers, rather
 than their usual arrogant churning out of anti-White and anti-
 Christian movies designed to promote self-loathing and hatred of
 White western 

Re: [CTRL] [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC] Mel Gibson's Jesus / Jews as Christ-killers (fwd)

2003-08-03 Thread Party of Citizens
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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Subject: Re: [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC] Mel Gibson's Jesus / Jews as
Christ-killers

The Jews are probably correct as you note below about Christians which
is why I am not one. OTOH, what kind of Christian sides with the Jewish
claim to be the lost sheep of Israel sought by Jesus Christ?

NONE of those Jews to whom you refer are PRO- the teachings of Jesus
Christ. All are ANTI- the teachings of Jesus Christ, ie all are among the
'antichrists' in I John 2:22.

Show us where Jesus Christ says, Love MY enemies. He only says, Love
YOUR enemies.

POC
(Learned Elders of Zion)

 * http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens **

On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Bob S. wrote:


 I love the controversy over Mel Gibson's Jesus movie, THE PASSION!
 (See article below my rant.)

 The Jews say that Gibson portrays Jews as Christ-killers.
 Jews don't say that Jewish movies, comic books, etc. often ridicule
 Christianity  insult the Christian faith.

 Ha ha.

 For example Mel Brooks' BLAZING SADDLES portrays a Christian
 congregation as a bunch of morons  Jew Gene Wilder analyzes
 Christian congregation thusly, these are common-clave people ...
 You know, MORONS.

 Jewish (Vertigo/DC - COHANIM president  editor-in-chief Jeanette
 Kahn) comic book series PREACHER had Grail cult kidnapping children
 of Jesus  Mary Magdalene, incestuously interbredding them for 2000
 years for second coming of idiot descendant offspring of Jesus!

 Futurama comic book story CHRISTMAS issue had Futurama crew doing
 zombie Jesus play. Get it? Christians believe that Jesus rose from
 dead, so Jews say Jesus must be zombie. Zombie Jesus libel was also
 on tv series in episode likely written by goddamn Jew.

 Mel Gibson is member of reactionary Catholic sect which rejects
 Vatican II. Before Vatican II Catholic Church called Jews Christ-
 killers. Since Vatican II, Catholic Church characterized Jews
 as perfidious, only stopped calling Jews perfidious few years
 ago.

 http://www.thesoutherncross.co.za/church%20and%20judaism.htm
 http://www.americancatholic.org/messenger/jul2000/feature2_sidebara.a
 sp

 quoting
 1959—Pope John XXIII orders that the reference to perfidious Jews
 be removed from the Good Friday liturgy. These prayers were
 completely revised after Vatican II. Between 1959 and 1963, Pope
 John XXIII meets with individual Jewish leaders and with Jewish
 groups. Pope Paul VI continues this practice.
 quoting

 http://www.volasia.com/forum/topicDisplay.php?topicID=288
 http://www.catholicism.org/News/rabbigibson.htm


 Bob is neither Catholic nor Jew.
 Bob is not religious Christian but is ethnic Christian.
 Bob is agnostic who HATES Zionism  double-standard where is OK for
 Jews to insult Christians but isn't OK for Christians to insult Jews.



 Mel Gibson's Jesus / Jews as Christ-killers

 http://angrywhitefemale.net/mel-gibson.html

 The Passion, a movie being directed by Mel Gibson, will be an
 accurate historical account of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
 Accurate is the operative word here. The Jews have spent many moons
 in Hollywood re-writing White history for the stupid goyim, and have
 managed to make a huge profit from the goyim's historical ignorance
 and fear of the anti-Semite label. So, the words accurate depiction
 of the crucifixion of Christ when used by devout Catholic Mel
 Gibson raised blood red flags in Hebewood and Jew York. The thought
 (now reality) of a goy director making a movie depicting an
 historical truth about Jews has created a firestorm in the
 Pharisees' communities. Why, only the Juden are permitted to define
 history, thinketh the Jewish supremacists. A cursory review will
 quickly expose the fact that Jews write and direct virtually every
 single anti-White, pro-miscegenation, anti-moral and anti-Christian
 movie, while paying no heed to protests from outraged-but-sheeplike
 Christian groups who continue to identify these Jews as Atheists
 and Pagans. You wouldn't know it, but Christians oppose lies and
 defamations about their Lord and Savior in flicks such as The Last
 Temptation of Christ and Jewish-reeking museum exhibits such
 as pissing on Christ. But portray the Jews' ancestors accurately,
 and it is anti-Semitism.

 Gimme a break!

 The fact that Jews control so much of what we think via Hollywood
 lends an air of mystery and awe to this Gibson vs. the Jews dispute.
 The man just may be something like William Wallace and The Patriot!
 Just imagine the Jews in power shaking in their boots at the
 prospect of being accurately portrayed as Christ-killers, rather
 than their usual arrogant churning out of anti-White and anti-
 Christian movies