Re: [CTRL] CNN: Condit denies urging anyone to mislead in Levy case

2001-07-05 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, Jenny Decker wrote:
>If she disappeared without being traced, then she left the building some
>other way than upright on her feet. Rolled up in a rug, etc. Or in pieces in
>boxes. It would be possible to dismember a body in a bathtub (if you brought
>the right tools), and then neatly wash away all the blood.

It's impossible to completely wash away all traces.  There is a chemical
now used in forensic science which causes even microscopic traces of
blood to glow blue under a black light...even though to the naked eye all
traces of blood were washed away, certain proteins would have remained
behind on the walls, in the grout between tiles, in the rug, and even in
the drain, especially in the trap...


>I'd be looking for service people who came in to the building that day:
>painters, plumbers, UPS, etc. etc. Four people carrying paintbuckets, for
>example, could deal with the problem invisibly.

I'd also check out anyone who'd rented an apartment in the building
shortly before Levy disappeared

She knew for a couple of weeks that she'd be leaving on that date, so I'd
check anyone who moved into the building on 4/1, or who was scheduled to
move in on 5/1...

It could be that Levy was moved into another apartment in the building,
and then removed from the building when things cooled down...in which
case, either the 2nd apartment was already rented, or it was in the
process of 'being moved into' for 5/1, and who would question big boxes
being moved into the newly rented apartment?

Even if the 2nd apartment was rented on 4/1, little suspicion would be
raised regarding a big box or object being moved into it a month later...
it could be explained away as a newly bought entertainment center,
washing machine, etc.


June

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Re: [CTRL] CNN: Condit denies urging anyone to mislead in Levy case

2001-07-04 Thread Jenny Decker

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If she disappeared without being traced, then she left the building some
other way than upright on her feet. Rolled up in a rug, etc. Or in pieces in
boxes. It would be possible to dismember a body in a bathtub (if you brought
the right tools), and then neatly wash away all the blood.

I'd be looking for service people who came in to the building that day:
painters, plumbers, UPS, etc. etc. Four people carrying paintbuckets, for
example, could deal with the problem invisibly.

Jenny

> Somehow this girl disappeared from a highly secured apartment building,
> with no trace recorded on the 24-hour video recording system in the
> building.  If it was possible to remove Levy with no trace, it is just as
> possible for someone else to enter and leave the apartment without
> leaving a trace...
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Re: [CTRL] CNN: Condit denies urging anyone to mislead in Levy case

2001-07-04 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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>Police originally said she disappeared April 30, but an analysis of the
>laptop computer in Levy's apartment found she sent an e-mail message on May
>1, the source said. She was last reported seen April 30 at her Washington
>gym.

As I mentioned in a previous post, the only thing this shows is that an
email was sent from the computer on that date...it doesn't show WHO was
sitting at the computer sending the message purporting to be from Levy.

Somehow this girl disappeared from a highly secured apartment building,
with no trace recorded on the 24-hour video recording system in the
building.  If it was possible to remove Levy with no trace, it is just as
possible for someone else to enter and leave the apartment without
leaving a trace...


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[CTRL] CNN: Condit denies urging anyone to mislead in Levy case

2001-07-03 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/07/03/missing.intern/


Statement by Rep. Condit:

http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/07/03/missing.intern/letter2.gif


Statement by Condit's attorneys:

http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/07/03/missing.intern/letter.gif




Condit denies urging anyone to mislead in Levy case

July 3, 2001 Posted: 5:41 PM EDT (2141 GMT)


Condit's statement said he did not try to influence flight attendant
Smith's statement.


Statement distributed by Anne Marie Smith's attorney

http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/07/03/smith.affidavit/

Flight attendant Anne Marie Smith, 39, told Fox News that Condit urged her
to sign what she called a false affidavit swearing there was nothing
between them.

Smith said that she came forward because "I was concerned about my safety."

When the FBI contacted her later to ask about Levy, Smith said Condit
became "upset" when she told him about the contact.

"He said, 'You don't have to talk to the media. You don't have to talk to
anybody. You don't even have to talk to the FBI,'" Smith said.

If true, the allegations could put Condit at risk of charges he attempted
to obstruct an investigation.

Condit, 53, is scheduled to return to Modesto -- Levy's hometown and the
hub of his district -- for a Fourth of July parade, according to Mayor
Carmen Sabatino. Extra security will be on hand, Sabatino said.


Condit attorney says no coercion

Condit's San Francisco attorney, Joe Cotchett, also released a statement
saying that his office had provided Smith's attorney, Jim Robinson of
Seattle, with a suggested statement, but that neither he nor Condit had
tried to coerce her to sign a false statement.


Anne Marie Smith

Cotchett noted that the original allegations appeared in the tabloid Star
magazine, and that his office had contacted Smith after the publication.

"She indicated it was totally out of proportion and that her roommates were
paid by the Star to talk about it," Cotchett's statement said. "She was
very cordial but also very, very embarrassed."

Cotchett said he had asked Smith's attorney if his client would provide a
statement regarding her relationship with Condit, and that Robinson had
requested a draft statement for his review.

Cotchett provided a copy of the statement that he sent to Robinson and
Smith to news media. Attached to the statement was a note instructing
Robinson to "edit, cut, suggest, etc."


Levy disappeared a day later than originally thought

A police source supervising the Levy investigation told CNN on Monday that
computer records show Levy was in her apartment on May 1.


Chandra Levy

Police originally said she disappeared April 30, but an analysis of the
laptop computer in Levy's apartment found she sent an e-mail message on May
1, the source said. She was last reported seen April 30 at her Washington
gym.

Police have twice interviewed Condit in relation to the case.

On Monday, Assistant District of Columbia Police Chief Terrance Gainer said
dogs specially trained to detect cadavers would be brought to landfills and
trash bins serving the apartment and vicinity where Levy lived. The search
will likely begin later this week or early next week, police said.

Police have also said they have no clues to indicate Levy might be dead but
want to be thorough and are looking for any clues to her disappearance.
They continue to insist the case is a missing person investigation, not a
criminal investigation.


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