Re: [CTRL] Cereal maker chokes on CD Bible giveaway (fwd)
The bible here was part of a package of stuff on the CDs, it wasn't just a NIV bible in every box of whatever. Also, I doubt many Christians are going to stop buying them becasue they get a free CD in their cereal box. BTW, assuming Christians already have one, who buys these darn wastes of paper? Not Government schools presumably, I'm sure they mostly end up getting pulped making it some sort of scam. Any thoughts? --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cereal maker chokes on CD Bible giveaway (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:39:01 -0400 From: Eric Eldred [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Don A. Elbourne Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Bookpeople [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cereal maker chokes on CD Bible giveaway snip Cereal maker chokes on CD Bible giveaway http://www.freep.com/news/religion/bible22_2722.htm "An executive from Disney Interactive, who licensed the "Millionaire" software for the CDROMs, told Swann and other partners that the Bible was too controversial. Disney demanded it be taken off the "Millionaire" CDROMs." The Millionnaire CDROM was scheduled to be released without the Bible. The decision by General Mills to stop releasing any more CDROMs at all was a surprise to the developers of the product. "Putting Zondervan's Protestant version of the Bible -- the New International Version -- in cereal boxes is offensive, said Rabbi James Rudin, the interreligious consultant for the American Jewish Committee in New York. ""I eat General Mills products myself, and I don't think it's right for any American to pick up a box of cereal in the morning and feel excluded," said Rudin. "This is one particular version of the Bible they're offering -- and America is multi-religious, multi-ethnic. When Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists and millions of other Americans pick up this box of cereal and look at this Bible -- they are excluded."" Why not issue all sorts of books in cereal boxes, so nobody feels excluded? Would that not be better than no books at all? When Americans eat "Quaker" brand oatmeal and think it is an affirmation of multicultural capitalism without any reference to religion one has to wonder about what has happened to our world. But I'll leave the field to the folks from Pennsylvania to comment on this now :-) - This message was sent via the Book People mailing list. Posting address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Admin. unsubscribe address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charter: http://digital.library.upenn.edu/books/bplist/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cereal maker chokes on CD Bible giveaway (fwd)
Yardbird wrote: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:39:01 -0400 From: Eric Eldred [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Don A. Elbourne Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Bookpeople [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cereal maker chokes on CD Bible giveaway snip Cereal maker chokes on CD Bible giveaway http://www.freep.com/news/religion/bible22_2722.htm "An executive from Disney Interactive, who licensed the "Millionaire" software for the CDROMs, told Swann and other partners that the Bible was too controversial. Disney demanded it be taken off the "Millionaire" CDROMs." The Millionnaire CDROM was scheduled to be released without the Bible. The decision by General Mills to stop releasing any more CDROMs at all was a surprise to the developers of the product. "Putting Zondervan's Protestant version of the Bible -- the New International Version -- in cereal boxes is offensive, said Rabbi James Rudin, the interreligious consultant for the American Jewish Committee in New York. ""I eat General Mills products myself, and I don't think it's right for any American to pick up a box of cereal in the morning and feel excluded," said Rudin. "This is one particular version of the Bible they're offering -- and America is multi-religious, multi-ethnic. When Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists and millions of other Americans pick up this box of cereal and look at this Bible -- they are excluded."" Why not issue all sorts of books in cereal boxes, so nobody feels excluded? Would that not be better than no books at all? Free books are cool, but why should people bitch at all? It's as if some people truly labor to be miserable. Are Americans becoming that hypersensitive or is that the whiners are becoming that much more vocal? I'm annoyed with their annoyance. When Americans eat "Quaker" brand oatmeal and think it is an affirmation of multicultural capitalism without any reference to religion one has to wonder about what has happened to our world. But I'll leave the field to the folks from Pennsylvania to comment on this now :-) Some wouldn't think it were "an affirmation of multicultural capitalism without any reference to religion". To some, quite the opposite is their reality--an affirmation powered by Christian cultists hypnotizing us with the Smiling Man as we doze through breakfast. ;) I'm not alert enough before sunrise to worry over non-essential intellectual matters. About the only time I would cogitate on the politics of my morning meal would be if I were stoned. I guess I'm just not that illuminated. -- ´´ Mark McHugh A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cereal maker chokes on CD Bible giveaway (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:19:16 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael S. Hart" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Eric Eldred [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Don A. Elbourne Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bookpeople [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cereal maker chokes on CD Bible giveaway On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Eric Eldred wrote: snip Cereal maker chokes on CD Bible giveaway http://www.freep.com/news/religion/bible22_2722.htm "An executive from Disney Interactive, who licensed the "Millionaire" software for the CDROMs, told Swann and other partners that the Bible was too controversial. Disney demanded it be taken off the "Millionaire" CDROMs." As Robin Williams says: "Never *mess* with The Mouse!" "Never *mess* with The Mouse!!" "Never *mess* with The Mouse!!!" The Millionnaire CDROM was scheduled to be released without the Bible. The decision by General Mills to stop releasing any more CDROMs at all was a surprise to the developers of the product. OK. . .better tell us how to go find a copy in our grocery stores. . . . "Putting Zondervan's Protestant version of the Bible -- the New International Version -- in cereal boxes is offensive, said Rabbi James Rudin, the interreligious consultant for the American Jewish Committee in New York. ""I eat General Mills products myself, and I don't think it's right for any American to pick up a box of cereal in the morning and feel excluded," said Rudin. "This is one particular version of the Bible they're offering -- and America is multi-religious, multi-ethnic. When Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists and millions of other Americans pick up this box of cereal and look at this Bible -- they are excluded."" Hey. . .everything the honorable Rabbi ever did "excluded" me, as far as I can tell. . .what he really seems to be upset about is that General Mills "included" so many people. . .didn't "EXclude" enough people not to be worthy of harrassment. We've been trying to The Torah and The Q'uran and every other religious document on Project Gutenberg for years, and have had so much "exclusion" that we haven't been able to do it. . . . But we will. . . . Why not issue all sorts of books in cereal boxes, so nobody feels excluded? Would that not be better than no books at all? Why not just put in ALL the Etexts out there. . . ? One DVD should be able to hold nearly all of them in .zip format. . . . When Americans eat "Quaker" brand oatmeal and think it is an affirmation of multicultural capitalism without any reference to religion one has to wonder about what has happened to our world. But I'll leave the field to the folks from Pennsylvania to comment on this now :-) Now virtually moving back from Lancaster County. . . . Michael Speaking for only for Michael - This message was sent via the Book People mailing list. Posting address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Admin. unsubscribe address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charter: http://digital.library.upenn.edu/books/bplist/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cereal maker chokes on CD Bible giveaway (fwd)
Mark McHugh wrote: Some wouldn't think it were "an affirmation of multicultural capitalism without any reference to religion". To some, quite the opposite is their reality--an affirmation powered by Christian cultists hypnotizing us with the Smiling Man as we doze through breakfast. ;) I'm not alert enough before sunrise to worry over non-essential intellectual matters. About the only time I would cogitate on the politics of my morning meal would be if I were stoned. I guess I'm just not that illuminated. What is it with cereal boxes? They almost caused a war here in Canada, and still might some day, when it was decreed that cereal boxes would be bilingual. French and English of course. People sure didn't like having French 'shoved down their throats' that way! Not a little bit! Cereal boxes should have written instructions in Zulu for all I care: pour into bowl, add milk and tons of sugar then flush down toilet when mother isn't looking and drink 10 cups of coffee and smoke a million cigarettes and then pour a whiskey and you're ready for the day! Or afternoon nap at any rate. Oh! I love life! Kelly A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cereal maker chokes on CD Bible giveaway (fwd)
--- Mark McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some wouldn't think it were "an affirmation of multicultural capitalism without any reference to religion". To some, quite the opposite is their reality--an affirmation powered by Christian cultists hypnotizing us with the Smiling Man as we doze through breakfast. ;) I'm not alert enough before sunrise to worry over non-essential intellectual matters. About the only time I would cogitate on the politics of my morning meal would be if I were stoned. I guess I'm just not that illuminated. The only thing I affirm with my cereal is "I'm hungry." __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
