Re: [CTRL] Elian Seized From Relatives' Home
From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now we see the true colors of the supposedly "peaceful and law-abiding" Miami Cubans...riots in the streets...what a mess! And still a preponderance of Cuban flags being waved in the crowd, rarely an American flag (a situation which existed well before Elian was snatched)... They show that even though they've gained American citizenship, they are by no means "American"...and if suddenly Castro was gone, they would all flock back to Cuba to exploit it, just as they've exploited the city of Miami, the state of Florida, and the U.S. in general... Now, can someone explain to me why the unemployed Miami relatives can afford not only a house, and presumably a weekly grocery bill...but can drop everything at a moment's notice and grab a plane to D.C.? Who's footing the bill? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Seized From Relatives' Home
From: "K" [EMAIL PROTECTED] And it's about time! Cudos to the government for finally taking action and for not allowing the Miami relatives to dictate terms... The "raid" was well-executed and very compelling... And apparently done without any kind of warrant - thus totally illegal. Not so. Warrant wasn't necessary, as this is under the provence of the INS, who doesn't need a warrant to enter and sieze an illegal alien. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Seized From Relatives' Home
And apparently done without any kind of warrant - thus totally illegal. -- Kathleen Not True!!! On April 13, 2000 Janet Reno Served The Family A Warrant To Hand Over The Child. By 2:00 PM At The Oppalocka Airport The Miami Family Just Ignored This Warrant 9 Days Is A Very Long Time To Hold Off Due Proccess Just To Manipulate The Media And The American Public At Large How sad! The claimed "warrant" is legally meaningless in regards to authorizing an armed home invasion. The so called "warrant" is merely a self serving INS document. NOT A COURT WARRANT OR COURT ORDER. Since when may a US Govt Agency issue its own "warrant" to invade someone's home without Court authorization? Guess the average American has been so dumbed down regarding the Constitution that they dont even realize they now live in a Police State. flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Seized From Relatives' Home
June wrote: "Not so. Warrant wasn't necessary, as this is under the provence of the INS, who doesn't need a warrant to enter and sieze an illegal alien." June is ignorant about the law and constitution. The INS has absolutely no legal authority to invade the home of US citizens without a court order. Of course Elian was not a fugitive "illegal alien." He had temporary resident status. Please learn the facts and law before you pontificate nonsense. flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Seized From Relatives' Home
Right on Flw -- I am about to post a lengthy report to the CTRL list on this matter. Jim Condit Jr. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of flw Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2000 3:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Elian Seized From Relatives' Home And apparently done without any kind of warrant - thus totally illegal. -- Kathleen Not True!!! On April 13, 2000 Janet Reno Served The Family A Warrant To Hand Over The Child. By 2:00 PM At The Oppalocka Airport The Miami Family Just Ignored This Warrant 9 Days Is A Very Long Time To Hold Off Due Proccess Just To Manipulate The Media And The American Public At Large How sad! The claimed "warrant" is legally meaningless in regards to authorizing an armed home invasion. The so called "warrant" is merely a self serving INS document. NOT A COURT WARRANT OR COURT ORDER. Since when may a US Govt Agency issue its own "warrant" to invade someone's home without Court authorization? Guess the average American has been so dumbed down regarding the Constitution that they dont even realize they now live in a Police State. flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Seized From Relatives' Home; Big Update
April 24, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire Elian, Rodney King Case, and Clinton Criminals! www.networkamerica.org "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin (Listen anytime to Votefraud vs Honest Elections "crash course" radio show over the internet at www.sightings.com in the archives, April 3rd, 2000 show, Jeff Rense host, Jim Condit Jr. guest) April 24, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire Elian, Rodney King Case, and Clinton Criminals! The Rodney King Case connection to the Elian case is treated at the end. Thanks to Rep. Tom Delay of Louisiana on Meet the Press, Senator Bob Smith in an Easter Sunday nationally televised press conference, and newsmax.com, -- we have the following, showing the utter illegality of what our occupation New World Government did to Elian and the Miami Gonzales Family: On Easter Sundays edition of Meet the Press, Rep. Tom Delay faced off with one of the Clinton Administration International Criminals, Eric Holder, considered by them a Deputy Attorney General, and pinned his ears back. Delay forcefully made the point that this was the first time in American history that the Executive Branch invaded a private home WITHOUT a court order, and WITHOUT a warrant !!! And God Bless Senator Bob Smith of New Hampshire who eloquently made the same points, and many others, in an Easter Sunday morning Press Conference. He was followed by a tearful and moving Marisleysis Gonzales who beautifully represented all that is good in this fight against pure evil. And this from NewsMax, dated Saturday April 22, 2000 Legal Analysts Comment on Raid NEWSMAX.COM - Andrew Napolitano, legal analyst for Fox News and a constitutional scholar had this exchange today on Fox with Eric Holder, Reno's second in command at Justice: Napolitano: Tell me, Mr. Holder, why did you not get a court order authorizing you to go in and get the boy? Holder: Because we didn't need a court order. INS can do this on its own. Napolitano: You know that a court order would have given you the cloak of respectability to have seized the boy. Holder: We didn't need an order. Napolitano: Then why did you ask the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals For such an order if you didn't need one? Holder: [Silence] Napolitano: The fact is, for the first time in history you have taken a child from his residence at gunpoint to enforce your custody position, even though you did not have an order authorizing it. (End of quote from newsmax.com) So, the usurpers of the Executive Branch of our American government turned a BIG corner on Good Saturday, 2000 they openly, violently, and completely violated the 4th amendment to the US Constitution by raiding a private home without a warrant and kidnapping a person a child -- in that home without a court order, which had been specifically denied them by the circuit court a few days earlier (the court having noted that Reno and the INS themselves had asked for a court order to transfer custody of Elian to the father, Juan Miguel, from the Miami family, -- WHICH FAMILY WAS STILL CONTINUING TO EXERCISE THE CUSTODY GRANTED THEM BY RENO HERSELF and the INS five months ago shorty after the boy was rescued from the ocean. Now, note well: What the Executive Branch usurpers did, was combine in themselves the Executive, Judicial, and Legislative branch just like any other dictatorship throughout history. (Just as this administration has usurped the high offices it occupies by means of unverifiable elections, counted in secret, just like all the other dictatorships in history which use elections as a cover have done; -- to be clear, of course, it is not the low-level, cocaine-nosed opportunist Clinton who has effective working control of our computerized election system but the Permanent Revolution Ruling Elite behind him, the Fed, and the 5 Big TV Networks. This Ruling Elite also controls puppet Gore and puppet W. Bush, as we have often stated in this e-wire, -- and if honest, verifiable elections, with paper ballots counted by citizens in each neighborhood, are not restored, then the Ruling Elite will pick either Bush or Gore to install in the upcoming computer-generated election results.) At about 3 PM on Sunday, the Clinton/Reno/Castro Junta, which had maintained until now that they didnt need a court order or warrant to snatch Elian have floated a story that they actually DO have a court order signed by a federal judge after all. Sorry, Clinton Liars, youre 30 hours too late with this latest ploy or else how do you explain your failure to cite it under the intense criticism of yesterday and today, under which pressure you simply said you didnt need one. Before going on, as I write this, there has now been 24 hours PLUS passed since the Clinton Criminals grabbed Elian without any public appearance of Elian and the Juan Miguel. No video yet. No public appearance yet. In the Easter Sunday
Re: [CTRL] Elian Seized From Relatives' Home Big Update 2
April 23, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire Easter Sunday Fall Out Elian; Gathering Storm This list deals with organizing America through networking, the nature of the Ruling Elite behind the emerging New World Order Government, votefraud vs. honest elections, and coordinated manipulation of the collective American mind by Big Media and Big Government. Todays report bears on the nature of the Ruling Elite, and what they are attempting to do to the American mind during the Elian affair. After Janet Reno, who does such a spiffy job of dressing like Alice the Goon of Popeye fame, acted the point man for the New World Order Governments snatching of Elian Gonzales, here are some points that Americans should ponder. (Incidentally, Im not Renos physical characteristics, which she cannot help anymore than the rest of it can; many women have the same basic features WITHOUT giving off the robotic, dead-eyed, soulless, evil, menacing aura of Alice the Goon; someone like Reno only sinks to that depth through years and years of deliberating choosing to walk down the path of evil. The Elian seizing was just the latest building block in Renos public career, which has become a monument to evil.) Reno, Clinton, and so many others in public life call to mind the Biblical injunction: Woe to those who call good evil, and evil good. Item: Kate OBeirne, of National Review, on Capitol Gang: This boy has been returned to Castros custody. So right on but next Kate and Bob Novak fell into the trap for the 2 millionth time, -- of giving unreserved credence to the Big TV network polls which claim that 59% of Americans APPROVE of the way Janet Reno sent the armed thugs to seize Elian. Again, WHY accept these polls which ALWAYS support EXACTLY what the New World Order Government wants at every key moment. I want proof. How are these public opinion polls done? What questions are asked? What facts or facts are given the people polled? What preliminary questions are asked before the poll the is taken and are some people disqualified from the poll if they answer those preliminary questions wrong? How many people are polled in total? Is only a cross section of those polled selected for inclusion? Is the poll just done for cover, with the results ultimately fabricated to get the sought after favored result? Remember, only the well-connected poll company OWNERS, like Zogby, Harris, and Gallup, ever see the complete results; those doing the calling have no way of knowing what the aggregate results indicated. (Needles to say, these questions apply to any issue, any day of the week.) Item: One of the Congressman from the Miami area revealed on Evans and Novak that Castro is running BOTH the photo of the INS Thug pointing the gun at Elian and Donato (the fisherman rescuer), and the film of the New World Order Storm Troopers rushing a screaming Elian out to the government car on Cuban TV almost constantly. The Congressman made the point that OBVIOUSLY this was a tremendous propaganda piece for Castro to demoralize the freedom fighters in his gulags, and show the oppressed people of Cuba HOW MUCH the US Government backs him up. Exactly. Item: Lets talk about the dynamics of the newsmedia in the USA. As you know, the Big TV networks are the number one target of this e-wire, because of their collaboration on the major story for each day, and the angle from which they all cover the major story of each day. Yet, today, we are beholden to these same Big TV Networks for making the AP photo of the INS automatic weapon raid against Elian and the Gonzales family known and notorious throughout the world. How explain this seeming contradiction. The local on the spot cameramen and reporters are overwhelmingly trying to get the news. So things that break spontaneously are immediately rushed onto the air. If things break so spontaneously that the Network Owners or their agents cant decide whether or not to censor it, it gets out. Certainly, Im not suggesting that there is even time for the heads of the five networks to confer by phone, or through intermediaries, regarding whether to release such items as the photo of the gun in Elians face, or the home video of Elian saying he didnt want to go back to Cuba, which was released on Spanish TV such things are being done by reporters at the street level, sent to the public through technicians and news readers on duty. The Ruling Elite control is not so far advanced in this country that they have all news slots filled with trusted agents, such as was the case in Stalins or Gorbachevs Russia, or such as is the case today in Castros Cuba. In those countries the Permanent Revolution financed brutal agents who just took over everything, appointed all personnel and an incautious reporter could end up just a little bit dead. In the USA, the Permanent Revolutions Ruling Elite is just now in the process of BUYING up all the stations (with our money which they
[CTRL] Elian Seized From Relatives' Home
Saturday April 22 5:31 AM ET Elian Seized From Relatives' Home MIAMI (AP) - Armed federal agents stormed into the Miami home of Elian Gonzalez's relatives in a pre-dawn maneuver today and left with the 6-year- old boy, firing tear gas into the crowd as they left. At least a couple dozen agents arrived at the home shortly after 5 a.m. to knock and kick on the door, according to witnesses. A short time later, a woman and man brought Elian out of the Little Havana home and put him in a white van. ``Assassins,'' yelled a woman. Some of the approximately 100 protesters at the scene climbed over the barricades and tried to stop the agents, who were armed with automatic weapons. ``The world is watching!'' yelled Delfin Gonzalez, the brother of the little boy's caretaker, Lazaro. ``They were animals,'' said Jess Garcia, a bystander. ``They gassed women and children to take a defenseless child out of here. We were assaulted with no provocation.'' Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Seized From Relatives' Home
And it's about time! Cudos to the government for finally taking action and for not allowing the Miami relatives to dictate terms... The "raid" was well-executed and very compelling... Now we see the true colors of the supposedly "peaceful and law-abiding" Miami Cubans...riots in the streets...what a mess! Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Seized From Relatives' Home
Usually I think anything Reno does is stupid and sometimes illegal, and I have no trust in her as our nations top law enforcement official (what a joke that is) but in this case she did the right thing and handled it well, under the circumstances. Send the child to Cuba with his father, or subject everyone in this country who thinks he should stay to the same standards they wish to set regarding their own children. In other words if some relatives in China take their child in and they want him to come back home with them, being his parent, and the Chinese relatives say no then abandon the child to China. I don't think any parent would want the same to happen to them. On Sat, 22 April 2000, "Robert F. Tatman" wrote: It seems to me that this operation was handled as a hostage rescue...which it was. And more than that, it was a *successful* hostage rescue--a minimum of violence, no casualties on either side, a smooth and rapid extraction of the child from the house. The White House appropriately left the situation in the hands of the Attorney General; she negotiated far longer than she legally needed to; and she acted only when her patience was completely exhausted. The disingenuous proclamations of outrage by the Cuban exiles and anti-Clintonistas are completely absurd hypocrisy, especially when they come from people who have pursued a cynical vision of "family values." - Original Message - From: "Steve Wingate" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2000 5:36 AM Subject: [CTRL] Elian Seized From Relatives' Home Saturday April 22 5:31 AM ET Elian Seized From Relatives' Home MIAMI (AP) - Armed federal agents stormed into the Miami home of Elian Gonzalez's relatives in a pre-dawn maneuver today and left with the 6-year- old boy, firing tear gas into the crowd as they left. snipped for bandwidth A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey ___ Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go ___ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Seized From Relatives' Home
On 22 Apr 2000, at 12:25, William Shannon wrote: And it's about time! Cudos to the government for finally taking action and for not allowing the Miami relatives to dictate terms... The "raid" was well-executed and very compelling... And apparently done without any kind of warrant - thus totally illegal. -- Kathleen Of all the forms of murder, none is more monstrous than that committed by a state against its own citizens . . . - Forensic Anthropologist Clyde Snow A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Seized From Relatives' Home
-- And apparently done without any kind of warrant - thus totally illegal. -- Kathleen Not True!!! On April 13, 2000 Janet Reno Served The Family A Warrant To Hand Over The Child. By 2:00 PM At The Oppalocka Airport The Miami Family Just Ignored This Warrant 9 Days Is A Very Long Time To Hold Off Due Proccess Just To Manipulate The Media And The American Public At Large __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Seized From Relatives' Home
In a message dated 4/22/00 11:49:12 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Usually I think anything Reno does is stupid and sometimes illegal, and I have no trust in her as our nations top law enforcement official (what a joke that is) but in this case she did the right thing and handled it well, under the circumstances. I agree. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
