Re: [CTRL] Fat Kids
-Caveat Lector- --- Johannes Schmidt III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe we need something like the East German education system. Most parents aren't really suited to raising children anyway. Once they get to six or seven years old, put them in a home where they can be educated by professionals full time and they will be ready for the workforce or higher education years ahead of the Western children. Similarly those unsuited to education can be easily determined within a few years and sent to work in unskilled jobs labouring, mining, cutting down trees, pumping gas etc. The savings will be enormous. If you want to do that to your kids, go right ahead. My children are too important to me to trust their upbringing to strangers. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- I don't have any kids, and I'm not going out of my way to have any either. With DNA testing nowadays, it's just too expensive. On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 06:10:10 -0800 Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- --- Johannes Schmidt III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe we need something like the East German education system. Most parents aren't really suited to raising children anyway. Once they get to six or seven years old, put them in a home where they can be educated by professionals full time and they will be ready for the workforce or higher education years ahead of the Western children. Similarly those unsuited to education can be easily determined within a few years and sent to work in unskilled jobs labouring, mining, cutting down trees, pumping gas etc. The savings will be enormous. If you want to do that to your kids, go right ahead. My children are too important to me to trust their upbringing to strangers. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fat Kids
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/01 1:03:43 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe we need something like the East German education system. Most parents aren't really suited to raising children anyway. Once they get to six or seven years old, put them in a home where they can be educated by professionals full time and they will be ready for the workforce or higher education years ahead of the Western children. Similarly those unsuited to education can be easily determined within a few years and sent to work in unskilled jobs labouring, mining, cutting down trees, pumping gas etc. The savings will be enormous. Did you read what you wrote here? Pure Statism. Government is not suited to child rearing at all. You want your children to be indoctrinated by professionals? You don't want to give them the opportunity to have a life of their own ... the freedom to choose what they want to do in life? Just who is going to determine who is to be an unskilled laborer ... the State? That paragraph is about as unamerican as anything can be. We are not ants, we are humans capable of making our own decisions. Thinking such as this scares me, didn't Hitler have the same agenda of breaking apart families and educating children his way? Think about it. Regards, Bob Stokes A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fat Kids
-Caveat Lector- --- Johannes Schmidt III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- I don't have any kids, and I'm not going out of my way to have any either. With DNA testing nowadays, it's just too expensive. What does one have to do with the other? __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fat Kids
-Caveat Lector- I think we should blamae the parnets of these fat kids how hard it is to limit TV and time on the puter and take a kids hand and go for a walk threw away doom and throw a ball with your kid - Original Message - From: "Johannes Schmidt III" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fat Kids -Caveat Lector- I blame computers and internet. Playing computer games like doom, quake etc. makes you feel like you are tired from all the exertion, but it is only a mental illusion and you don't get much real exercise from it at all. Playing on a computer for 6 hours may give you a headache and feel exxhausted enough to go to bed, but you probably burn less calories than a 15 minute walk to the 7-11. And the foods people snack on while playing with computers are almost universally high in sugar, salt and fat. TV doesn't help either. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- A few months back I was spectating at the speaker's forum in the city. The speaker asked, rhetorically, 'What's wrong with the education system?' at which I leapt up and started yelling 'The problem with our education system is that it's producing a bunch of panty-waist nancy boys! We shoudl have compulsory rifle shooting and karate lessons for all boys at all levels!'. SOmeone said 'What about girls?' and I said that it won't be compulsory for them but they can do it if they want. Maybe we need something like the East German education system. Most parents aren't really suited to raising children anyway. Once they get to six or seven years old, put them in a home where they can be educated by professionals full time and they will be ready for the workforce or higher education years ahead of the Western children. Similarly those unsuited to education can be easily determined within a few years and sent to work in unskilled jobs labouring, mining, cutting down trees, pumping gas etc. The savings will be enormous. On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:52:27 -0700 hollie thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- I think we should blamae the parnets of these fat kids how hard it is to limit TV and time on the puter and take a kids hand and go for a walk threw away doom and throw a ball with your kid - Original Message - From: "Johannes Schmidt III" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fat Kids -Caveat Lector- I blame computers and internet. Playing computer games like doom, quake etc. makes you feel like you are tired from all the exertion, but it is only a mental illusion and you don't get much real exercise from it at all. Playing on a computer for 6 hours may give you a headache and feel exxhausted enough to go to bed, but you probably burn less calories than a 15 minute walk to the 7-11. And the foods people snack on while playing with computers are almost universally high in sugar, salt and fat. TV doesn't help either. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'wi
[CTRL] Fat Kids
-Caveat Lector- So in Wichita, Kansas they note a problem - but neglect to mention who is reaping the profits from the proceeds from these vending machines? This is a kick back virtually, and all monies should go into a general fund - for instance police departments used to pocket money from vending machines in our area until State Examiner ruled now way - even though it went to buy things they wanted or thought they needed - the money belongs to the taxpayers and not to the police or to the schools. Pepsi has kickback to the schools and Pepsi has 120 calories a can, unless your kids drink the aspartame stuff which they say is deadly, and you do not lose weight or control weight with that stuff either. It used to be the phoney sweetners were meant for people who could ot use sugar - who had diabetes and I imagine diabetes will be on he rise if the kids continue to eat this slop in schools so someone makes a fast buck. Twinkies, potatoe chips, pepsi - what is wrong with an apple, an orange, or bananas - eat one of those a day and you will not need coal tar product vitamins. Or good juices. Articles like the followiong make me sick, but at least thanks to the web for there has been much on his as of late, people might wake up to he fact we are killing our children andmaking hyper - and that includes this hypoglycemia over active kid stuff where they now want to drug them rather than feed good diet.sweet covered cereal - turning in to real cereal killers? So much for that.see Wichita grow fat and unhappy.. Saba Station Home Page More Local Information A student helps himself to a bag of chips from one of the school district's vending machines. Vending machines in school WICHITA, Kansas, January 11 Wednesday we heard the report that school lunches aren't to blame for the alarming increase in the number of overweight children in the U.S. Miss a story? Be sure to visit our 'Week in Review' Watch KSN News Video online! BUT SCHOOLS MAY PLAY ANOTHER role in the building of the bulge. You can find vending machines in the hallways of most of Wichita's middle and high schools these days. "We can by pop, or candy or chips or anything we want without getting in trouble," said student, Eric Delgado. But some believe the vending machines are contributing to our children's' poor eating habits and are an unhealthy temptation for students. "If you're really hungry, and you have the money to come here, you'll come here no matter what," said student, Kennedy Turner. Even school officials agree that a vending machine menu is not the best choice. "It isn't the healthiest stuff in the world, that's for sure," said Robinson Middle School principal, Kathy Busch. But Bush says not all kids are making unhealthy choices. She also says the public schools do a good job providing healthy alternatives. "We got a great salad bar here, we provide them with a good breakfast." Even more encouraging news is a national report that says cafeteria lunches are leaner and more nutritious than they use to be. It says schools have lowered the overall fat content of meals from 38 percent of calories to 34 percent of calories, exceeding the new standards set by the USDA. Sharon Carlson "We have worked diligently to get the menu in line with the national standards," said school nutritionist, Sharon Carlson. "The recommendation is 30 percent and we are below that." While that's good news, some say having vending machine menus in the schools might be defeating the purpose. "If they eat only the items from the machines, and not all the other items, yes, then it could be," said Carlson. The principal at Robinson Middle School says they don't hesitate to turn the vending machines off if kids abuse them. The district nutritionist adds that schools are often asked not to have the machines on during lunch periods. Return to main KSN news page Be sure to visit KSN.com, your source for local Wichita information. MSNBC is optimized for Microsoft Internet Explorer Windows Media Player MSNBC Terms, Conditions and Privacy 2000 Cover | Headlines | News | Business | Sports | Local | Technology | Living Travel | Health TV News | Opinions | Weather | Shop@MSNBC | MSN | Comics | Find | About MSNBC | Help | Index News Tools | Jobs | Write Us | Advertising on MSNBC | Terms, Conditions, and Privacy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence
Re: [CTRL] Fat Kids
-Caveat Lector- I blame computers and internet. Playing computer games like doom, quake etc. makes you feel like you are tired from all the exertion, but it is only a mental illusion and you don't get much real exercise from it at all. Playing on a computer for 6 hours may give you a headache and feel exxhausted enough to go to bed, but you probably burn less calories than a 15 minute walk to the 7-11. And the foods people snack on while playing with computers are almost universally high in sugar, salt and fat. TV doesn't help either. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
