Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism

2001-06-17 Thread Tenorlove

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--- Kris Millegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> who or
> what do you see as the sinster forces loose in the world?

LARGE CORPORATIONS. A rhetorical exercise, if you can stomach it; if
not, that's OK. Take the Protocols or any other writing of the "Jewish
conspiracy" genre. Delete the word JEW and substitute the words
MULTINATIONAL CORPORATION. Delete the word ZION and substitute the
words WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION. By doing so, I think a much more
realistic picture emerges. And large corporations have no ethnicity or
religion, so it is not (yet) "hate speech" to name them for what they
are: predators. I qualify with the words "large" and "multinational"
because I don't want to include small businesses, Ma & Pa places,
home-based operations, in my condemnation. And one strategy to combat
the conspiracy is to patronize the latter rather than the former. Use
the local hardware store down the street rather than drive down to the
strip mall to the Home Depot, or Lowes, or Ace, or whatever the big
chain is called. The little bit more that you pay will be more than
made up in the gas you save, and keeping the dollars in your community.


Tenorlove

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism

2001-06-15 Thread Kris Millegan

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In a message dated 6/15/01 8:22:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Do you believe there are no ideologies presented in the
>classrooms and that education if strictly academic and free
>from political and social orientation?  That is all she is
>saying.
>
>Are we no longer about different aspects of the political
>dialectic?
>~Amelia~

Wasn't really directed at you , just the claptrap. Yes, the schools have been
and are used by "sinister" forces to groom new "slaves", but the whole
liberal / conservative dialectic is fashioned out of propagandic cloth. Let
us get beyond that. And no I do not care for the rhetorical style of he piece
which amplifies and divides and hardens the sides.  It is not the vox populi.
MHO

I mean do you really think the liberals are out to get ya. Tell me who or
what do you see as the sinster forces loose in the world?

Om
k


MHO
Om
K

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[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism

2001-06-15 Thread Amelia

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Well, Nessie, I basically agree with what you are saying but
that was NOT the issue about which I was asking.  I apparently
did not express myself well.  I was saying that just ANN
COULTER was not considered extremists and giving some examples
of possible groups generally considered one way or the other,
like Jerry Falwell on the right and maybe Marxist on the left
as possible people who would be counted extremists for
contrast.

My question was what was wrong with posting the weekly,
nationally syndicated column of a person who is NOT extreme,
frequent visitor of talk show news pundits on TV, etc. Ann
Counter.  Why does this deem me a fool and her article
'irritating' and 'propaganda' that requires I be so informed
by the listowner?  You, yourself, have raised the very subject
she does with her article.  It is how people view the ideology
of others as being taught in schools, etc. at the expense of
their tax dollars.  You have said you do not like the
superstitions of others so taught.  She is aying what is so
magic about the 'after school' aspect of what goes on when it
has been going on all day.

Why is it wrong to post this?  Is this forum for liberal views
only because when I signed up, I understood something very
differently about different views, etc. all coming together
and Hegelian dialectic and all sides being necessary to get a
complete picture.  If this post is inappropriate, I want to
clearly know that.  I will not post material that is in any
way inappropriate to this list.  I do not, on the other hand,
appreciate being given the impression that all sides were free
to post if they are not.  Just asking for clarification as to
why a Coulter post is not welcome when some post up to two
entire newsletters of much more extreme material, page after
page.

I seem to have missed some rule or other and want to know what
it is and where it is located because I got the same deal when
I posted a Neal Boortz article.  Coulter is Republican and
Boortz is a Libertarian.  If this is a liberal forum, I want t
o know and that is what I am trying to find out.

~Amelia~



- Original Message -
From: "Nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of
Liberalism


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>We have posts from the extreme side of the left in the form
of gays,
eco-extremists, wiccans, pagans, anarchists


Gays, eco-extremists, wiccans, pagans, anarchists are not the
"extreme
side of the left." Many among them aren't leftists at all, not
by any
stretch of the imagination.

Some gays, some wiccans, and some pagans are leftists. Some
gays and
some pagans are rightists. Most wiccans are apolitical. No
wiccans are
rightists. Anarchists are neither leftists nor rightists.
Eco-extremism
was founded by Nazis. Some contemporary eco-extremists are
leftists,
some are rightists and some are anarchists. Making it even
more
complicated is that the very definition of "extreme" is a
relative one.
The same position can be easily seen as extreme by one faction
and as
moderate by another faction.


Get your facts straight. Better still, abandon the paradigm.
Left/right
is a false dichotomy. The spectrum is insufficient in scope to
serve as
a valid metaphor for the political landscape.

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[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism

2001-06-15 Thread Amelia

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Kris,

I take it your question is addressed to me as this is my post
although another posted the same article under a different
header.

Ann Coulter is known for her rather sarcastic wit but there is
an element of truth in her contention that it is ridiculous to
be so concerned with religion in after-school activities when
all day long, children attending govt schools are being
indoctrinated in the liberal point of view and having their
values rearranged in other ways. I know this to be true for I
have seen it happen with my own children.  So in that context,
I do believe this.

Perhaps you do not appreciate Ms. Coulter's style of writing
for it is designed to make people think and I do think some
people have not considered the fact that much that is taught
in schools that is social engineering at its worst.  I am not
the only one who thinks this for that is why we have such a
rise in home schooling now.  She does not literally mean
liberalism is a religion but that it is taught in public
schools (yes, I KNOW this to be true) yet they are the ones
who object to any OTHER ideologies being presented.

Do you believe there are no ideologies presented in the
classrooms and that education if strictly academic and free
from political and social orientation?  That is all she is
saying.

Are we no longer about different aspects of the political
dialectic?
~Amelia~

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From: "Kris Millegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of
Liberalism


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Do you really believe this?

Because if this is a true viewpoint of persons, boy are they
buy a Brooklyn
Bridge propaganda  control line.

Om
K

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