Re: [CTRL] Fwd: What Rapists Look For In Female Targets (Self-defense)
-Caveat Lector- Thanks for the extra info, Damaeus. BTW, how this ties into conspiracy theory: Consciously or unconsciously, rape could be considered a conspiracy to keep women in fear, thus preventing them from reaching their full potential. One more thing: women with infants and small children are particularly vulnerable, because they are obviously distracted. If I had to go to the mall with the kids when they were little, I went with another adult as well. Plus there was always a pair of eyes on the kids, for their safety. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: What Rapists Look For In Female Targets (Self-defense)
-Caveat Lector- from http://www.sightings.com Important - What Rapists Look For In Female Targets 1-20-01 Notes from a self-defense class for women... The guy who taught the class has a female friend who was attacked last year in the parking garage at Westport Plaza in St. Louis one night after work and taken to an abandoned house and raped. He started a women's group and began teaching these classes soon after. This guy is a black belt in karate and trains twice a year with Steven Segall. He and the others in this group interviewed a bunch of rapists and date rapists in prison on what they look for. Here are some interesting facts: The #1 thing men look for in a potential victim is hairstyle. They are most likely to go after a woman with a ponytail, bun, braid or other hairstyle that can easily be grabbed. They are also likely to go after a woman with long hair. Women with short hair are not common targets. The second thing men look for is clothing. They will look for women whose clothing is easy to remove quickly. The #1 outfit they look for is overalls. Many of them carry scissors to cut clothing and overall straps can be easily cut. They also look for women on their cell phone, searching through their handbag, or doing other activities while walking. Because they are off guard, they can be easily overpowered. The time of day men are most likely to attack and rape a woman is in the early morning, between 5 8:30 a.m. The number one place women are abducted from/attacked is grocery store parking lots. Number two is office parking lots/garages. Number three is public rest rooms. The thing about these men is that they are looking to grab a woman and quickly move her to a second location where they don't getting caught. Only 2% said they carried weapons because rape carries a 3-5 year sentence but rape with a weapon is 15-20 years. If you put up any kind of a fight at all, they get discouraged. It only takes a minute or two for them to realize that going after you isn't worth it because it will be time-consuming. These men said they will not pick on women who have umbrellas, or other similar objects that can be used from a distance, in their hands. Keys are not a deterrent because you have to get really close to the attacker to use them as a weapon. So, the idea is to convince these guys you're not worth it. Several defense mechanisms he taught us are: * If someone is following behind you on a street or in a garage or with you in an elevator or stairwell, look him in the face and ask him a question, like what time is it, or make general small talk. "I can't believe it is so cold out here; we're in for a bad winter." Now that you've seen his face and could identify them in a lineup, you lose appeal as a target. * If someone is coming toward you, hold out your hands in front of you and yell "Stop!" or "Stay back!" Most of the rapists this man talked to said they'd leave a woman alone if she yelled or showed that she would not be an EASY target. If you carry pepper spray, tell them. (This instructor was a huge advocate of it because it will be a deterrent.) * If someone grabs you, you can't beat him with strength but you can by outsmarting him. If he grabs your wrist, pull your wrist back so your hand is in waving position (palm facing forward) and twist it toward yourself and pull your arm away. It is hard to hold onto wrist bones that are moving in that way. He stumbles toward you and you stumble back, so you can use that momentum to bring the same hand out and backhand him with your knuckles in the forehead, nose or teeth. * If you are grabbed around the waist from behind, pinch the attacker either under the arm between the elbow and armpit or in the upper inner thigh...HARD. One woman in a class this guy taught told him she used the underarm pinch on a guy who was trying to date rape her and was so upset she broke through the skin and tore out muscle strands -- the guy needed stitches. Try pinching yourself in those places as hard as you can stand it. It hurts. * After the initial hit, always go for the groin. I know from a particularly unfortunate experience that if you slap a guy's balls (sorry to be graphic), it is extremely painful. You might think that you'll piss the guy off and make him want to hurt you more, but the thing these rapists told our instructor is that they want a woman who will not cause a lot of trouble. Start causing trouble and he's out of there. * When the guy puts his hands up to you, grab his first two fingers and bend them back as far as possible with as much pressure pushing down on them as possible. The instructor did it to me without using much pressure and I ended up on my knees and both knuckles cracked audibly. Of course the things we always hear still apply. Always be aware of your
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: What Rapists Look For In Female Targets (Self-defense)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/24/2001 9:48:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The #1 thing men look for in a potential victim is hairstyle. They are most likely to go after a woman with a ponytail, bun, braid or other hairstyle that can easily be grabbed. They are also likely to go after a woman with long hair. I used to work in a place where we also employed two deaf mute women. One of them was really pretty, but she didn't live where she was accessible. The other wasn't much to look at, but every few months she would come in with huge bruises, usually on her upper arms. She lived in a rather dark and poor neighborhood. She took the bus back and forth to work. The attacks invariably took place when she got off the bus (she worked second shift) about ll:00 p.m. or probably ll:30, because it took a while for her bus to arrive at her stop. The bus would leave and she would start the block or so to get to her house. To my knowledge she was never successfully raped, because she could make sound. When she was grabbed, her screams were amazingly loud, discordant and spine chilling. The scum would drop her and run. My distinct impression from knowing this woman is that what rapists are looking for in female targets is what wolves look for when they're hunting food. They want an easy mark and the more vulnerable the better. Rapists aren't looking for beauty or a sexually exciting worman. They want somebody they can hurt and they don't want to get caught. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: What Rapists Look For In Female Targets (Self-defense)
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 06:48:10 -0800, Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted article [EMAIL PROTECTED], which said: They also look for women on their cell phone, searching through their handbag, or doing other activities while walking. Because they are off guard, they can be easily overpowered. The time of day men are most likely to attack and rape a woman is in the early morning, between 5 8:30 a.m. You know, that's interesting because, even though I'm a male, those are the hours I've always felt safest outside. :-/ I've always felt like I was roaming through the boogeys between midnight and 5am. But I guess rapists go to work every day, too, so they just get up an hour early and walk around finding somebody to take advantage of. The number one place women are abducted from/attacked is grocery store parking lots. Number two is office parking lots/garages. Number three is public rest rooms. Heh... and those are the three places I always watch myself. These men said they will not pick on women who have umbrellas, or other similar objects that can be used from a distance, in their hands. Maybe I'll start using a cane. :-D Maybe it would be a trendy, stylish thing, too. :-) * If someone is following behind you on a street or in a garage or with you in an elevator or stairwell, look him in the face and ask him a question, like what time is it, or make general small talk. "I can't believe it is so cold out here; we're in for a bad winter." Now that you've seen his face and could identify them in a lineup, you lose appeal as a target. Hmmm. Kill all the witnesses. * If someone is coming toward you, hold out your hands in front of you and yell "Stop!" or "Stay back!" Most of the rapists this man talked to said they'd leave a woman alone if she yelled or showed that she would not be an EASY target. If you carry pepper spray, tell them. (This instructor was a huge advocate of it because it will be a deterrent.) I think I saw some woman on Jerry Springer trying to use those tactics on her ex-boyfriend and it didn't work. * After the initial hit, always go for the groin. I know from a particularly unfortunate experience that if you slap a guy's balls (sorry to be graphic), it is extremely painful. Yes, as a male, I can personally testify that it does hurt and it not take much force behind the slap to send a male into agony. If I was a rapist and knew that a woman had the strength to rip my muscle fibers through the skin, I would in no way, shape, form or fashion, want her anywhere near my magic nodules. One thing I recommend, however, is after you kick him in the nuts, he'll probably lean forward and start bouncing around. That makes his face a perfect target. Drop your ladyhood and kick him in the face. Then when he flies back, kick him in the nuts a few times more just to drive the point home. Then send me your description so I'll know to remain at least eight feet away from you should we meet in a parking lot. * When the guy puts his hands up to you, grab his first two fingers and bend them back as far as possible with as much pressure pushing down on them as possible. The instructor did it to me without using much pressure and I ended up on my knees and both knuckles cracked audibly. It's extremely painful to the forearm as the tendons are stretched, too. I just did it to myself without much pressure and oddly it resembles a mild "kicked in the nuts" pain. Combine that with an intense feeling of diarrhea cramps crawling from your gnads to your guts and that would be what being kicked down below feels like. Well, I've never actually been kicked down there. I jumped to catch a football I thought was coming with a high pass, but it was a low pass. With my whole body flying through the air like a giant X, (and I might say that what normally would have been hanging in front was pointed up) the football caught me square in the crotch. I instantly morphed from an X to a @. I was in constant pain for a good two minutes, but it was another three minutes before I was willing to stand up. My only happy thought was, "I'm glad that was a Nerf football." Better to be safe than sorry!! Never get in the car with him, if he wants to rob you, throw the money or keys so he has to go get it, then run and yell "Fire." It's more effective than "Help." Never help a person with a van trying to load it himself and having trouble (with possibly a fake broken arm or leg), Yeah, and think of it like this: A lot of disabled people are actually offended if you try to help them accomplish something they've learned to do just fine with their handicap, temporary or whatnot. I remember giving a guy a total at a retail store I worked at. The guy had a problem with one of his hands -- like it was still an infant's hand even though he was around 20 years old. Anyway, I took the cap off the pen before giving it to him and he grumbled, "Nah, I
