Re: [CTRL] [Armageddon-or-NewAge] Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God

2000-07-22 Thread DIG alfred webre

 In a message dated 00-07-19 17:32:24 EDT, you write:

  Oh please! These kinds of things have always been around. It's only
 recently   that they've been given scary sounding names that the media can
fashion   impressive sounding reports around. All these "rages" used to be
just called   assault. "Home invasion" used to be called armed robbery. And
have you heard   of "car-jacking"? It existed before cars, under the name
highway robbery.
  Don't fall into the trap of thinking that just because something has a new
  name, it's new.
   

RESPONSE: Hi! This post is educational. I hope you begin to educate yourself
about the uses  of mind control and population mood management. If you wish
to ignore the  post, and continue to post misinformation, please just DELETE.
 There is only  enough time to bring you to the trough ONCE.

 I suggest you subscribe to the Mind Control victim's forum, and learn the
 mind control technology's effects on population mood management.  Mind
 control technology is routinely used to influence "democratic election
 outcomes", mass moods such as despondency, depression, rage, mass shootings,
 wars, plane crashes, public rages etc.

 Attitudes like yours are what Stalin called those of the "useful idiot".
 Josef Stalin was, of course, referring to fellow travelers who like the NY
 Times Soviet correspondent, deflected Stalin's secret genocide by
normalizing
 it.
 Our current problem is that the psychopathic government has been made an
 faceless institution, not an individual.

 I hope you will take sides in the mind control war, with the life forces and
 fully aware.  Good luck. Now that you have been informed karma applies ;-)

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Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God

2000-07-19 Thread Robert F. Tatman

Over the last few weeks I've been mulling over why we're seeing such an
epidemic of rage--"road rage," "air rage," even "rink rage," to mention only
a few manifestations.  I have gradually come to the conclusion that this
*has* to  have been orchestrated.  At first I just thought it was the
expected fin-de-siècle madness, but the patterns and the nature of the rage
make it clear that people's minds are being manipulated.  And the most
likely mechanism, IMO, is HAARP, just as HAARP is almost certainly behind
many, if not most, of the aircraft crashes of the past few years.

- Original Message -
From: "DIG alfred webre" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God


 In a message dated 00-07-18 23:34:37 EDT, you write:

 
  I was going to add quite a bit here, but at
  this point, let us see if this post generates
  any constructive or informative responses.

  Tsadowq
   

 One of the more productive avenues of research is the recent finding
 of a ULF frequency embedded into the planetary HAARP propagation.
 HAARP (and related systems) as a ULF generator may have two functions (1)
ULF
 affects the human limbic system and may be a mind control agent (2) ULF
(as
 well as electromagnetic frequencies) may affect seismic processes -
notably
 around the magnetosphere and the tectonic system of 20 or so inverted
 tectonic plates that cover the Earth's surface.

snip

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Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God

2000-07-19 Thread Aleisha Saba

Tsadowq:   Hope I never have to pronouce your name here.

Just kidding.

So the line in your letter which equates to "Neither shall he return to
his house any more"  from Job, in the bibleis line which deciphered
meant JFK and RFK would not being going to White Houseastrologers
mark of doom, part of bible code.   Willl not go into that one, but
every high degree mason who does his homework knows there is a secret
society using masonic ritutals, there is a group known as the Tarot Card
Assassins tearing this country apart and believe me - THEY ARE
BACKin for the kill and they want to return us to the 60 period and
teachings of Madame Helene Blavatsky are deeply involved in this one.

When we speak of freedom from and of religion I always took this to
mean, you send people h elected offices who try to live up to high
standards established by law and they carry their righteousness from
their personal life to their political life - religion under our
constitution is not a test or qualification for holding office - the
word is integrity, or the word is ethics.

Religion is simple matter of right and wrong, the Golden Rule and
remembering "a gift doth blind the eyes of a Judge".the bible is a
book of law and an expose of past deeds of our ancestors, be they good
or be they evil.

The bible is a psychological profile of man from the Garden of Eden
(tainted fruit from tree of knowledge and they did steal them apples)
but I think best reflected in Job - a righteous man virtually torn
apartJob 19-21 i particular had to be favorite grounds for thoughts
of Sigmund Freud as he attempted to replace the bible with psychiatry.
Astrologers Mark of Doom in bible alsoin Job "neither shall he
return to his house anymore"and JFK and RFK, did not - this house is
the White House re bible code.

So..teachings of Madame Helene Blavatsky - by systematic
assassination of a country's leaders the people will be demoralized.

This is how this sick, twisted perverted element got their hooks in, and
control over the Democrat Party.Union Leaders sold out the workers,
and Mafia moves in for the money and control.then destroy them all
by inviting the leaders into CFR - Leonard Woodcock attended Walter
Reuther's funeral as honorary pall bearer (have funeral programs) and
this man sold old went into CFR with Wurf..tis how they play the
game.

Slowly Amerca awakens to fact something is terribly wrong; many in the
past have gone out like John the Baptist and nearly met, and some did
maybe, met with his fate for nobody listens and nobody cares, until they
are personally hurt.

You look at the life of the Amish - many would like to escape to this
lifestye but take all the modern convenience with them.

God threw Lucipher out of heaven, he was the Bright Son of the Morning,
Luciper?   Then Jesus in Revelations wars "I AM the Bright and Morning
Star" the Alpha and the Omega - the beginning and end end and time is a
circle with no endso we have Jesus Christ warning Lucipher that I AM
the Bright and Morning Star, and that is a warning to all to straighten
up and fly right, or they get the boot too..

Still do not know whether earth is heaven or hell, or is it what we make
it?

I do know this - in Ethiopia and Angola and South Africa, life is
hellwho murders and steals from Africa?   If people in Africa kept
their own national resources - they would all be rich.?

See murder in the Balkans?   See genocides and exterminations of a
people for no reason other than greed or jealousy yet who fnances and
has the gold to so do these wars/

Christ fed the 5,000 did he not?

So when I read the bible and your line reference returning home..I
think of FDR, and how they played the NEW WORLD SYMPHONY, the beautiful
but sald old song, Going Home.he went home to his father, as did JFK
and RFK - timed to Master Plan for Murder keyed to Stars and
Testaments

When you see the Master Plan, so simple, right in the open but when you
see the timetable and calendar/code you see the evil now in possession
of the only book the Pilgrims had, when they set foot on the Rock upon
which they buit their house.

As was once said "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of
men"..look to Clinton, he symbolizes to me all that is evil, yet he
appears to be the Angel of Light - perhaps the Illuminated one"

For you see the Illuminati made their home in the Garden of Eden through
their father.and that guy went out on his belly, and not his feet.

I know this, the President of the United States elected to office this
year is in great danger.   He is scheduled for death or aination in
office, and it is no divine revelation or divine plan - this the Master
Plan straight out of Job and Daniel and Ezekial - the enemy stilll
recites Death to America and to all for which it stands.

White man is number one target - and that second and third man in line
for President, better be careful who is placed in htis 

Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God

2000-07-19 Thread Eagle 1

I happen to know how his name is pronounced,
It's "zadok",  but spelled the way he spells it.

This story posted below has to be one of the biggest *confabulations*  I've
ever encountered...

You must have the New World Order version...   NWOV
whew!

eagle 1


- Original Message -
From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God


 Tsadowq:   Hope I never have to pronouce your name here.

 Just kidding.

 So the line in your letter which equates to "Neither shall he return to
 his house any more"  from Job, in the bibleis line which deciphered
 meant JFK and RFK would not being going to White Houseastrologers
 mark of doom, part of bible code.   Willl not go into that one, but
 every high degree mason who does his homework knows there is a secret
 society using masonic ritutals, there is a group known as the Tarot Card
 Assassins tearing this country apart and believe me - THEY ARE
 BACKin for the kill and they want to return us to the 60 period and
 teachings of Madame Helene Blavatsky are deeply involved in this one.

 When we speak of freedom from and of religion I always took this to
 mean, you send people h elected offices who try to live up to high
 standards established by law and they carry their righteousness from
 their personal life to their political life - religion under our
 constitution is not a test or qualification for holding office - the
 word is integrity, or the word is ethics.

 Religion is simple matter of right and wrong, the Golden Rule and
 remembering "a gift doth blind the eyes of a Judge".the bible is a
 book of law and an expose of past deeds of our ancestors, be they good
 or be they evil.

 The bible is a psychological profile of man from the Garden of Eden
 (tainted fruit from tree of knowledge and they did steal them apples)
 but I think best reflected in Job - a righteous man virtually torn
 apartJob 19-21 i particular had to be favorite grounds for thoughts
 of Sigmund Freud as he attempted to replace the bible with psychiatry.
 Astrologers Mark of Doom in bible alsoin Job "neither shall he
 return to his house anymore"and JFK and RFK, did not - this house is
 the White House re bible code.

 So..teachings of Madame Helene Blavatsky - by systematic
 assassination of a country's leaders the people will be demoralized.

 This is how this sick, twisted perverted element got their hooks in, and
 control over the Democrat Party.Union Leaders sold out the workers,
 and Mafia moves in for the money and control.then destroy them all
 by inviting the leaders into CFR - Leonard Woodcock attended Walter
 Reuther's funeral as honorary pall bearer (have funeral programs) and
 this man sold old went into CFR with Wurf..tis how they play the
 game.

 Slowly Amerca awakens to fact something is terribly wrong; many in the
 past have gone out like John the Baptist and nearly met, and some did
 maybe, met with his fate for nobody listens and nobody cares, until they
 are personally hurt.

 You look at the life of the Amish - many would like to escape to this
 lifestye but take all the modern convenience with them.

 God threw Lucipher out of heaven, he was the Bright Son of the Morning,
 Luciper?   Then Jesus in Revelations wars "I AM the Bright and Morning
 Star" the Alpha and the Omega - the beginning and end end and time is a
 circle with no endso we have Jesus Christ warning Lucipher that I AM
 the Bright and Morning Star, and that is a warning to all to straighten
 up and fly right, or they get the boot too..

 Still do not know whether earth is heaven or hell, or is it what we make
 it?

 I do know this - in Ethiopia and Angola and South Africa, life is
 hellwho murders and steals from Africa?   If people in Africa kept
 their own national resources - they would all be rich.?

 See murder in the Balkans?   See genocides and exterminations of a
 people for no reason other than greed or jealousy yet who fnances and
 has the gold to so do these wars/

 Christ fed the 5,000 did he not?

 So when I read the bible and your line reference returning home..I
 think of FDR, and how they played the NEW WORLD SYMPHONY, the beautiful
 but sald old song, Going Home.he went home to his father, as did JFK
 and RFK - timed to Master Plan for Murder keyed to Stars and
 Testaments

 When you see the Master Plan, so simple, right in the open but when you
 see the timetable and calendar/code you see the evil now in possession
 of the only book the Pilgrims had, when they set foot on the Rock upon
 which they buit their house.

 As was once said "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of
 men"..look to Clinton, he symbolizes to me all that is evil, yet he
 appears to be the Angel of Light - perhaps the Illuminated one"

 For you see the Illuminati m

Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God

2000-07-19 Thread Eagle 1

Aleisha Saba said,
 Tsadowq:   Hope I never have to pronouce your name here
Just for a reference... (not saying I agree or disagree with the content of
this site)
Here's a link for your researching efforts ...
http://home.fireplug.net/~rshand/reflections/messiah/messiah.html

eagle 1


 - Original Message -
 From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God


  Tsadowq:   Hope I never have to pronouce your name here.
 

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Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God

2000-07-19 Thread Aleisha Saba

Thank you Eagle I - have a feeing though you do not agree with me or
rather the way in which I express myself, you do see, what I see.

Refer to the Devils Dictionary, letter "M".for this Bierce was
something else and he takes quite a few pokes at the masons.

But Bierce was like the old King in I Kings, who said "did I not tell
you he would prophecy no good to me - only evil".for propaganda
equates to prophecy.

Shades of Nostradamus and Jean Dixon and Tokyo Rose and Lord Haw
Haw..but, he who laughs last, laughed best.

So thank you Eagle I, or is it Brother HiRamGreat Eagle - Dougle
Beak?   Diamonds and the works?

Know anything about the masonic Kiss of Death?

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God

2000-07-19 Thread Eagle 1

Yes, aleisha saba,  I know about all of it...
which do you wish to discuss?  Though I fail to see the relavency,
since no matter what I say,  or what anyone else says,  you have been
there and already done it all   You are a one-sided conversation piece.
Must be nice to have such a wealth of 'experience' under your belt.

By the way,  I'm no brother...

eagle 1


- Original Message -
From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God


 Thank you Eagle I - have a feeing though you do not agree with me or
 rather the way in which I express myself, you do see, what I see.

 Refer to the Devils Dictionary, letter "M".for this Bierce was
 something else and he takes quite a few pokes at the masons.

 But Bierce was like the old King in I Kings, who said "did I not tell
 you he would prophecy no good to me - only evil".for propaganda
 equates to prophecy.

 Shades of Nostradamus and Jean Dixon and Tokyo Rose and Lord Haw
 Haw..but, he who laughs last, laughed best.

 So thank you Eagle I, or is it Brother HiRamGreat Eagle - Dougle
 Beak?   Diamonds and the works?

 Know anything about the masonic Kiss of Death?

 Saba

 A. Saba
 Dare To Call It Conspiracy


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Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God

2000-07-19 Thread Aleisha Saba

Well Eagle I, you are right I have been there, and believe me, am lucky
to still me here - for as they say it was a lonely road in the 60 and 70
period to cry conspiracy and be labeled a coo coo bird.   That one that
flew over the cuckoo nest, was me.

And for now I am out of here - and the one line of Robert Owen that I
always liked -

All the world is queer save thee and me;
and sometimes I wonder, about thee.

So I no longer worry about great Eagle I.
This Condor passes.

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Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God

2000-07-18 Thread Tsadowq

Hello everyone,

In a message dated 6/24/00 1:37:10 PM Central
Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My first thought on this is that the power base on
this planet is afraid of giving up its hold on its power.
Their interest in controlling our DNA would be to
prevent a migration to another dimension. That is
why they might be researching this technology.

In my own paradigm, this is partially true. While
the plan of the Illuminoids might be to exclude
those who are not the "capstone of society
perfected," what they do not realize is that
the Master Mind behind their Illumination
has something completely different planned...

In a message dated 06/25/2000 1:58:58 AM Mountain
Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Interesting. Question: if the 1000-1200 MHz range
source is everywhere (possibly due to HAARP)- and
cannot be pinpointed to a satellite - how do they get
it to zone in on a particular person?  I don't get that
part.  TIA if anyone can help.

The plan is for PLANET-WIDE ascension...

I am going to cut and paste part of an
email that I recently sent to another list.

I will probably add a few comments at the end.

Keep in mind that the excerpt below was sent
to a list which discusses the ATLANTIS...

x

 Lastly, I would have to agree with previous statements
 regarding the inevitable discussion of various religious
 theologies on this list. Edgar Cayce was absolutely
 told that Atlantis was destroyed over a battle between
 good and evil; a war over "who was God".

 In this age of Heaven and Earth, this war continues...

 If my own research is correct, the "fallen spirits" of
 Atlantis are nothing less than Lucifer and the fallen
 1/3 of the heavenly host as recorded in REV 12:1-5.

 These same "luminaries" now pose as "angels of light"
 and sometimes even "Ascended Masters" or "Lords
 of Light." So, if you are looking for "love and light",
 say "Hello, Maitreya"...

 I also agree with prior statements which made
 the assertion that New Age is very, very old.

 New Age is the same Old Lie told by Lucifer to the rebels
 who were foolish enough to follow him. This lie says that
 we can be as gods; have "Christ consciousness" without
 following the plan established by the Father for doing so.

 This plan follows the rule of self-symmetry by means of
 PHI. In John 17, Christ said that He was in the Father,
 and that we are in him (Jesus). My own mathematical
 analysis of this passage (and others), confirm by use
 of gematria that this is exactly what is taking place.

 Again, this explains why Jesus said that you cannot
 get to the Father without Him. If you remove .618,
 the rule of self-symmetry is invalid.

 In any case, the Garden of Eden began the same test
 for mankind. In the Garden, Adam and Eve had chose
 to forsake their relationship with the Tree of Life (Christ),
 for the lie that they could be as gods.

 EARTH'S ANCIENT PAST AND THE FALL OF LUCIFIER

 I for one would completely agree to the fact that there is an
 ancient and fallen civilization behind us in Earth's past. Where
 we are likely to disagree, is that in my own paradigm, this great
 civilization was formed when Lucifer and the 1/3 of the rebellious
 angels were cast to Earth in Revelation 12.

 These fallen entities came to Earth and built the Great Pyramid
 and other sacred sites in order to harness the power of the Earth's
 electromagnetic grid...truly marking the land mass with Earth Star
 patterns which are "As Below, So Above."

 It is likely that the ancient marking of these Earth Grid
 coordinates is what remains in the Ley Line phenomena.

 The purpose of this Luciferian scheme was to convert matter
 back into energy...to reverse E = Mc2. As an alternate theory,
 it is also possible that harnessing this power was used to create
 Multidimensional Piezoelectric Reactivity (MPR) to open a vortex
 to another dimension.

 After all...the rebellious angels didn't like being "cast to Earth"...

 If this is true, it is even more likely that the Bermuda Triangle is
 one of such port holes. This port hole would open when "as above,
 so below" occurs during certain planetary alignments, causing a
 flux between diamagnetic poles that would literally place those
 lost ships and airplanes somewhere in time/space.

 Nonetheless, the Luciferians' plan to harness
 the Earth's grid worked. Unfortunately the only
 one who made it through was Lucifer himself.

 It is likely that this is why the legends of Atlantis record that
 the "king" over the ante-diluvian society somehow "escaped."

 King Lucifer's escape also explains why the Egyptians
 possess the legend of Osiris, who reportedly ascended
 into the region of the Duat in the Belt of Orion/Osiris.

 This event ties directly to the Bible's 13,000 year mark of
 this age, and it also reveals why the Great Pyramid lines
 up to the very first Epoch of the Belt of Orion over Giza.

 Rather amusing that Poseidon/Neptune has often
 been pictured as the King 

Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God

2000-07-18 Thread DIG alfred webre

In a message dated 00-07-18 23:34:37 EDT, you write:


 I was going to add quite a bit here, but at
 this point, let us see if this post generates
 any constructive or informative responses.

 Tsadowq
  

One of the more productive avenues of research is the recent finding
of a ULF frequency embedded into the planetary HAARP propagation.
HAARP (and related systems) as a ULF generator may have two functions (1) ULF
affects the human limbic system and may be a mind control agent (2) ULF (as
well as electromagnetic frequencies) may affect seismic processes - notably
around the magnetosphere and the tectonic system of 20 or so inverted
tectonic plates that cover the Earth's surface.

SO HAARP - associated global electronic warfare systems - may have the
primary function of global mind control - Goal: to deny Universe society the
human population, and conversely to deny the human population knowledge of
Universe's society's initiative.  Likewise, the possible ability to unleash
tectonic processes may be part of a "cataclysm".

Other's would call this a scorched Earth policy - Dumb down the human race
with mind control.  It is expecially important to recall that all mind
control systems are GOAL-ORIENTED.

Here is the technology and the goal seems to be development of a disoriented,
dumbed-down population that becomes disenfranchised and unable to integrate
into Universe society.

For more extended comments on HAARP,  its explicit mind control and earth
changes applications, see:

http://www.universebooks.com/sampleearthchanges.html

Alfred

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Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God - Part II of II

2000-06-25 Thread Samantha L.

In a message dated 6/24/00 1:37:10 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

  My first thought on this is that the power base on this planet is afraid
   of giving up its hold on its power. Their interest in controlling our
   DNA would be to prevent a migration to another dimension. That is why
   they might be researching this technology.

  Interesting.  Question:  if the 1000-1200 MHz range source is everywhere
(possibly due to HAARP)- and cannot be pinpointed to a satellite - how do
they get it to zone in on a particular person?  I don't get that part.  TIA
if anyone can help.

Samantha

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[CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God, Part I of II

2000-06-24 Thread DIG alfred webre

This two-part compendium on HAARP is posted as a research document on
electronic warfare and mind control, for the record.  You may agree with
parts of it, and diagree with others but at least it is on public record for
those who are concerned about the risk assessment of HAARP, on the ionophere,
on dimensionality, on population mind control and other impacts. Alfred Webre
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Armageddon or New Age?)

 http://members.aol.com/phikent/god.txt


 http://members.aol.com/phikent/haarp2.htm
 Kent Steadman's graphics


 Upon further examination it might be possible that
 the proportions in the patterns emanating from HAARP in fact
 exhibit the Golden Ratio.

 looks like the HAARPsters have discovered the hidden sine wave
 in the Fibonacci series--those sly devils.

 When they juice up HAARP on the 23rd, we might all just see the
 everywhere-shape--expect a brilliant white light that penetrates
 all.

 (please note: the above date is in legitimate question)**

 I think HAARPster-hamster agenda is to throw up a shield around
 the planet.  Why?  I wonder (who-what) is in approach to earth?

 You will be able to see through closed eyes.

 HAARP would summon-fabricate God--now that could backfire in their
 faces!

 

 I have mapped out this HAARP-Golden ratio thing in the
 enclosed attachment; furthermore, I have interpreted with a
 gif construction animation under the heading, "Fabricating God" at:
 http://members.aol.com/phikent/haarp.htm

 Those of you who are discussing the BLUE STAR concept, consider
 that a five-pointed star is also a representation of the Golden
 Mean as is the dodecahedron, which some think is the basic
 crystaline endoskeleton of the earth and the basis for the
 earth grid concept. Might be a good research to identify
 the exact position of the HAARP array (and other sister
 installations)relative to the earth grid.
 SEE: Wondrous Geometry on Mars at:
 http://members.aol.com/phikent/display.htm


 We are in for a wild ride!



 ..

 I enhanced to bring out the bands of energy on HAARP cam image:
 This picture was taken: 3/10/97; 3:16:52 PM Alaska Time.
 3/11/97; 12:16:52 AM UTC
 http://server5550.itd.nrl.navy.mil/projects/haarp/cgi.cam.fcgi
 Image attached as well as posted at:
 http://members.aol.com/phikent/haarp.htm


  Nice try, but you've just demonstrated "banding" (an image artifact caused
  by reducing the number of colors available to display an image). In
  addition, radio waves do not image onto photographs.

 I intentionally reduced the colors in order to give shape to the
 radiant-signature that I perceived to be there.

 According to legend and paltry few notes Tesla discovered a radiant
 energy quite separate from normal EM frequencies.  This phenomenon,
 perhaps beyond E=M, seemed to pass through, or exist beyond,
 molecular(ly)-identified structures that would normally provide
 shielding from electromagnetic fields.

 Under certain conditions the aether can be seen with the naked eye. I
 thought I saw this familiar blue etheric glow in the HAARP cam image.
 Again, I made an intentional effort to reduce the colors to in order
 augment the emanating crescent SHAPE of "radiant", not radio,
 phenomenon. Shape as expressed through geometry is a better vehicle for
 identifying radiant effect--as opposed to wave or photon theory which
 speaks for the (lesser or stepped-down toward 3D) electromagnetic
 effect.

 A study of dynamic symmetry, for instance the golden ratio, would help
 to understand radiant FORM.  Please think SHAPE as opposed to frequency.
 Radiant phenomenon is neither matter nor energy--there seems to be
 something else--in times yore identified as aether.  The correct
 approach in understanding the aether would be toward the gestalt
 geometry of the universe.

 HAARP is a Tesla device, not Marconi--the clue.  When they power up
 HAARP, depending on how the device is tuned, we will see that
 shape-from-everywhere.

 Kent Steadman

 
 ** question of date
 At 10:47 AM 3/12/97 -0600, you wrote:
   Speaking of the HAARP turn on for the 23rd..Does this have anything
 to
 do with Hale-Bopp approaching the earth at it's closest point around
 then???

 No. There is NO known HAARP Pturn-on planned for the 23rd. Yet more
 unsourced misinformation on this list. According to the U.S. Navy in an
 answer to my query:

 "We are conducting a science research effort currently. This test period
 will be completed at the end of this week. The next set of tests has not
 been scheduled as of now."  (I've asked for a clarification on this and
 Kent is checking some of his sources for the unofficial story.)

 A lot of people (including me) are monitoring shortwave signals from HAARP,
 so there's no way for them to transmit without our knowing it. By the way,
 in case you're interested, 

[CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God - Part II of II

2000-06-24 Thread DIG alfred webre

Part II of II
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 Date sent:Tue, 01 Jul 1997 22:48:16 -0700
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED], "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: "A.J. Craddock" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  HAARP - More Disturbing News

 HAARP has always had a bad smell to it, and this erudite and credible
 post raises the ugly specter of us paying for one Government Program to
 destroy another.

 One wonders what HAARP's true purpose really is?

 Tony Craddock
 Web Administrator
 CSETI
 http://www.cseti.org




 To:  Jeane Manning

 I have read two of your books, "The Coming Energy Revolution," and
 "Angels Don't Play this Haarp."  Thank you for the excellent
 expositional works.  They have meant alot to me.  I found out about you
 through an old friend, Walt Rosenthal.  He encouraged me to share my
 ideas with you, so here goes the first one.

 In thinking about the HAARP project, I started thinking about what it
 means to spacecraft within that region of the ionosphere, and I mean
 normal everyday spacecraft such as the space shuttle and satellites.  It
 means very bad things.  Even if they limit themselves to increasing the
 charge particle density to only double or triple, ionospheric heating
 still means more energetic particles on average, and this will have
 catastrophic effects on certain spacecraft materials.  I have just
 completed a three year study of ionospheric interactions with the new
 International Space Station, and even though the problem is still very
 fresh in my mind, it took awhile for me to grasp what an ionospheric
 heater is really doing, then it took me even longer to analyze these
 effects and apply understand the ramifications on my recent work.

 If I understand you correctly, we could start out by saying that the
 ionosphere is comprised primarily of Atomic Oxygen.  In its natural
 state (before the invention of electricity) a fraction of this oxygen
 (and the other constituent gases) was constantly being ionized by solar
 and other radiations.  The ionized atoms would then re-combine with an
 electron (usually within milliseconds) to lose their charge.  Thus an
 equilibrium condition was reached, where depending on the level of solar
 activity, the portion of the atmospheric gases in that region settled in
 the ballpark of 0.01 - 0.1% ionized gas at any one time.  This condition
 began to change however, with the advent of hi-power transmission
 equipment and power lines.  The new technology affected both the
 ionization and re-combination processes, and resulted in localized
 effects to the ionosphere.

 Now enter spacecraft into the picture.  NASA has been fighting a war for
 a decade on the effects that Atomic Oxygen has on polymer spacecraft
 materials.  Essentially what's happening is that Atomic Oxygen is
 ramming into the weak organic chemical bonds at orbital + thermal
 velocities, and eroding away the material slowly.  This is essentially
 the same thing that will happen with the ionized portion of the
 ionosphere as well, but only if the particular spacecraft structure is
 electrically neutral.  As a detail point, the ionized atoms tend to be
 at the higher end of the gasses' energy distribution, because once they
 become ionized they become accelerated by electric forces.  Conversely,
 atoms which are ionized by deliberate application of EM fields get
 accelerated by that same EM field, hence the effect of raising
 temperature.  The ionospheric heater fits in here I now realize.  And it
 is insanity.

 Consider the effects on the new thin-film Space Station Solar Arrays.
 They do not have the property of being electrically neutral in the
 ionosphere by any means.  1,000 to 20,000 times a second, the entire EM
 field surrounding them is collapsed by the voltage regulating SSU
 (non-shunt) circuit controller, and herein lies the problem.  The copper
 circuitry is covered by 2 - 10 mil thick polymers like Kapton.  When we
 analyzed the naturally occuring effects that the ionized portion of the
 ionosphere has on the arrays in 1994, we found the following interesting
 fact.  The AC electric field present in the array circuitry switches 140
 volts at 1 khz, and couples like a capacitor to the ions through the
 Kapton dielectric.  The ions then slam the charged particles into the
 array polymers with a velocity fifty times greater than the
 orbital/thermal velocities of the non-charged gasses.  That's like 2,000
 times the energy in the collision.  The result is that these atoms now
 have enough energy to damage copper and steel.  The process is well
 known as ion sputtering.

 When we completed our analysis, the result was within an order of
 magnitude of saying that the arrays would not survive the requisite
 fifteen years.  We argued and argued and eventually NASA took
 responsibility of the problem from us.  AKA it disappeared.

 We based our analysis on the 1986 model of the ionosphere which takes no
 man-made ionospheric effects into account.  If