Re: [CTRL] Hamburger Meat and the Kosovo Cancer Cluster: Destroying Those We ...

2001-01-17 Thread Marilyn Wright

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On 17 Jan 01, at 6:09, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote:

> And don't forget, had
> President George Herbert Walker Bush said one little word when the
> Serbs started this mess, there would never have been a need for any
> weapons to be used there.  He would only have been required to raise
> his head and say stop.  He did not.  Years later, Thomas Eagleberger
> responded to a question as to why he did not by saying, "He had
> business interests there."  I hope they were very profitable.  Prudy

Seems to me that Poppy Bush is CitiBank's (or some other major
bank's) liason to Vietnam and whenever I think about Colombia, it
occurs to me that someone with "interests" would like to switch
our major heroin and cocaine sources from Colombia back to
Vietnam, Cambodia and The Golden Triangle. Surely I am thinking
paranoid thoughts again. But it, too, would be very profitable.
sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] Hamburger Meat and the Kosovo Cancer Cluster: Destroying Those We ...

2001-01-17 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 01/14/2001 12:42:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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<< These rounds are apparently denser than steel (and are
 thus great as armor-piercing rounds) and also apparently explode
 on impact (whether this is due to the fact that they are made of
 depleted uranium, or because they are incendiary rounds, has not
 been clearly reported). In addition, they are also quite radioactive
 and thus poisonous to human life. >>

This is not an indictment of our action in Kosovo.  It is an indictment of
our military establishment which cannot seem to understand just what its
weapons do.  Since they have been using the same depleted uranium on Vieques,
one might think that the increased cancer rates there might have given them a
clue, but what's the difference they must say, since our good friends in the
arms business are making big profits and contributing mightily to the
campaigns of our friends in congress.  It is true that Clinton finally went
forward with military assistance in the former Yugoslavia, but he certainly
didn't choose the weapons to be used.  I'm sure he left that up to his
military advisers (Strangeloves every one).  The military has always gone by
the principle that military members and adjacent civilian populations are
expendable.  And don't forget, had President George Herbert Walker Bush said
one little word when the Serbs started this mess, there would never have been
a need for any weapons to be used there.  He would only have been required to
raise his head and say stop.  He did not.  Years later, Thomas Eagleberger
responded to a question as to why he did not by saying, "He had business
interests there."  I hope they were very profitable.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Hamburger Meat and the Kosovo Cancer Cluster: Destroying Those We "Save"

2001-01-14 Thread kl

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Hamburger Meat and the Kosovo Cancer Cluster: Destroying Those
We "Save"

by David Dieteman

For those aging hippies who smoked insufficient amounts of dope,
such that they remember My Lai, this is an urgent news flash:
nothing has changed.

As has been widely reported, Nato troops in the Balkans –
including American troops – fired ammunition made of "depleted"
uranium. These rounds are apparently denser than steel (and are
thus great as armor-piercing rounds) and also apparently explode
on impact (whether this is due to the fact that they are made of
depleted uranium, or because they are incendiary rounds, has not
been clearly reported). In addition, they are also quite radioactive
and thus poisonous to human life.

To date, newspaper stories have focused on the "syndromes"
associated with the Balkan intervention. It turns out that soldiers
are turning up sick, apparently because of exposure to depleted
uranium. Thankfully, the soldiers are from a variety of nations,
so no one monopoly state has been able to censor all the stories.

More to the point, Robert Fisk, writing in the Independent (UK) has
pointed out that soldiers are not the only ones getting sick.

It turns out that those Albanians that NATO and Bill Clinton were
so trigger-happy to "save" are now coming down with cancer.

Thanks to America’s "glorious" and ongoing war on Iraq, many
Iraqis are also now suffering from similar cases of radiation
poisoning.  And so are American veterans.

The point which should not be lost on the aging hippie crowd – or
on the younger generations – is that Western thought has not
advanced since Vietnam.

Madeleine Albright has declared that the death of many thousands
of Iraqi children is "worth it" to keep Saddam Hussein in check.

Albright and the other Clinton "experts" have no end game – no
concept of what Iraq should look like in ten years. What sort of
feelings do these policy wonks – who will now be celebrated by the
press as departed heroes rather than war criminals – think will
be the feelings of today’s Iraqi children when they are older? What
do they imagine to be the feelings toward the West and the United
States held by those Iraqi parents who have watched their children
die?

And how about the Albanians? Did Nato and the USA have to
poison them to, in order to "save" them?

For those who have not yet perceived Bill Clinton’s modus operandi
– his style – Kosovo’s cancer cluster is par for the course.

Rather than actually do something good or useful, Clinton’s foray
into Kosovo – which was closely linked to his need to push the
Lewinsky sex scandal off the front pages – was merely aimed at
making good headlines. (It might be argued that Clinton was also
saving the credibility of the sycophants in the media, saving them
the trouble of defending his libido any further, but that is beyond the
scope of this article.)

Journalists and special interest groups crying out for President
Happy-Pants to "do something" about Kosovo? Bombs away.
Problem solved.

Only the problem was never solved.

Despite the heroic crowing by the left-wing establishment that
ground troops had not been needed, and that Kosovo had not
turned into "another Vietnam," it turns out that Kosovo is indeed
"another Vietnam," although not for the reason feared.

Rather than turning into a charnel house where bright, young
American men were shot, burned, maimed, blown up, and
generally treated worse than hamburger meat, Kosovo turned out to
be like Vietnam in demonstrating the left-wing establishment’s
complete disregard for the alleged "victims."

Those Kosovars that we were supposedly "saving" are now coming
down with cancer, thanks to us.

We must destroy the village in order to save it. Hello, Vietnam.

One final note: consider the fact that the government cares more
about hamburger meat than it does about its citizens. The past few
years have featured numerous media tales of tainted hamburger
meat, such that the federal government is now pushing for all sorts
of additional restrictions on how meat is slaughtered, packaged,
shipped, labeled, and prepared. Hamburger meat, then, is
something which requires great care.

Contrast this with the government’s utter disdain for its citizens’
lives, in particular those who are soldiers. Rather than adequately
equip or train the military, America’s social workers in camo are
sent to known terrorist havens, such as Yemen, where they can be
blown up having lunch. Just as shamefully, they are sent to the
Balkans, or Iraq, where they are poisoned by their own ammunition
and experimental vaccinations. To top it all off, their "superiors" lie
to them, lie to their families, and lie to the world, all in an effort to
keep their jobs, which pay much more than a soldier earns.  How
noble.
January 12, 2001

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