Re: [CTRL] Hear No Evil? See No Evil? Speak No Evil? -- Please pass ...
-Caveat Lector- There is in the Constitution the provision for emergency rule in times of war or rebellion. Lincoln declared such an emergency during the Civil Ward, but it was later lifted. I believe that FDR declared a national emergency in March of 1933 and that this has never been lifted. If I am not correct about this, does anyone have a date for its ending? I do have a copy of the declaration of emergency from 1933. It was the basis for the confiscation of most American's gold. Howard Davis -- >From: Bob Stokes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hear No Evil? See No Evil? Speak No Evil? -- Please pass ... >Date: Sat, Jun 5, 1999, 4:42 PM > > -Caveat Lector- > > << 1. An executive order is a presidential decree or edict that assumes the > force of law if it is not challenged by Congress within 30 days of signing. > They are printed in the Federal Register.>> > > I have yet to find a law that authorizes an Executive Order and have been > searching for several months. Does anyone know by what law these are > authorized? If they are not authorized then they are bogus and should be > removed from the Federal Register as ravings from a lunatic President, not > just Clinton, but all former Presidents as well. Obviously the Constitution > does not give the President the authority to make laws. > > Regards, > Bob Stokes See below to help Helen Chenoweth > > > Posted previously by Peter L. Sroufe: > > I have a courageous nonprofit, public interest > law firm on my side: MOUNTAIN STATES LEGAL FOUNDATION. > > You see, as a Member of Congress, I couldn't afford to hire a > team of high-priced lawyers to take on the hundreds of Justice > Department attorneys Clinton has working for him. > > If it weren't for the MOUNTAINS STATES LEGAL FOUNDATION > (MSLF), I would have been all by myself against the President and > his team of TAXPAYER-FUNDED lawyers. > > But MSLF agreed to help me with my historic case. > > And they agreed to do it FREE OF CHARGE! > > Don't be mistaken, this is going to be a very expensive case > for MSLF to handle. > > But helping the American people fight big government is what > MSLF does best. > > Still, in order to make sure we win against Bill Clinton and > his army of lawyers, we need YOUR crucial help. > >First, we need to show that the public will not stand for > Bill > Clinton's unconstitutional plot to make himself dictator. > > And to be heard, we need to receive an outpouring of public > support. > > Will you please send your most generous gift possible > to help Mountain States Legal Foundation pay for the many costs > involved with this historic case? > > Your crucial $50, $100, $250, $500 or even $1000 shows that > that you believe America is still a nation of laws. And that Bill > Clinton is not above the Constitution. > > Or if that is too much to ask right now, could you please help > out with an urgent gift of $20 or $35? > > It will certainly cost you more than $35 if Bill Clinton wins > and is allowed to pass any big-government plan he pleases! > > And remember, Mountain States Legal Foundation is a nonprofit > organization. > > So your gift to help this vital project and all of MSLF's work > is tax-ductible. > > I hope you can include your tax-deductible gift of $20, > $35 or more to help the great folks at Mountain States Legal > Foundation stand by my side in this important battle. > > Thanks for being someone I can count on! > > For America, > Hon. Helen Chenoweth > U.S. House of Representatives > > Make checks payable to: > > Hon. Helen Chenoweth > Member of Congress > c/o MOUNTAIN STATES LEGAL FONDATION > 951 20th Street > P.O. Box 1560 > Denver,CO. 80201-1560 > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substanceónot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat L
Re: [CTRL] Hear No Evil? See No Evil? Speak No Evil? -- Please pass ...
-Caveat Lector- Now, what is this on Helen Chenoweth's parta legal scam? Now, I was not aware an Executive Order could be challenged legally; I thought Executive Orders were policies of government. But a check to Helen Chenoweth for legal fees? For a non-profit organization. You know years ago, my boss who then was a Mayor used to call for meetings prior to a Council meeting to discuss certain matter; nobody ever showed up. One day, in open Council, he asked why. The reason, they never read their packets until the night of Council and therefore, had not read the Mayor's request.. Apparently Chenoweth and some of the Congressmen need a briefing on the law and their duties as representatives; but then, who do we have in Congresspeople like whatshername, Sonny Bono's wife, whom some believed caused his murder in an arranged accident, who stressed her husband was on drugs..and look around the country and ask yourself, are anyone of these people operating with a full deck? Take that money you would give to her the poor woman; what is a congressman's salary now, $120 thousand dollars a year or so with some expenses.poor, poor woman. Wonder if she will make it next election; I doubt it, if she is that ineffective as a Congressman. Colleen DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hear No Evil? See No Evil? Speak No Evil? -- Please pass ...
-Caveat Lector- << 1. An executive order is a presidential decree or edict that assumes the force of law if it is not challenged by Congress within 30 days of signing. They are printed in the Federal Register.>> I have yet to find a law that authorizes an Executive Order and have been searching for several months. Does anyone know by what law these are authorized? If they are not authorized then they are bogus and should be removed from the Federal Register as ravings from a lunatic President, not just Clinton, but all former Presidents as well. Obviously the Constitution does not give the President the authority to make laws. Regards, Bob Stokes See below to help Helen Chenoweth Posted previously by Peter L. Sroufe: I have a courageous nonprofit, public interest law firm on my side: MOUNTAIN STATES LEGAL FOUNDATION. You see, as a Member of Congress, I couldn't afford to hire a team of high-priced lawyers to take on the hundreds of Justice Department attorneys Clinton has working for him. If it weren't for the MOUNTAINS STATES LEGAL FOUNDATION (MSLF), I would have been all by myself against the President and his team of TAXPAYER-FUNDED lawyers. But MSLF agreed to help me with my historic case. And they agreed to do it FREE OF CHARGE! Don't be mistaken, this is going to be a very expensive case for MSLF to handle. But helping the American people fight big government is what MSLF does best. Still, in order to make sure we win against Bill Clinton and his army of lawyers, we need YOUR crucial help. First, we need to show that the public will not stand for Bill Clinton's unconstitutional plot to make himself dictator. And to be heard, we need to receive an outpouring of public support. Will you please send your most generous gift possible to help Mountain States Legal Foundation pay for the many costs involved with this historic case? Your crucial $50, $100, $250, $500 or even $1000 shows that that you believe America is still a nation of laws. And that Bill Clinton is not above the Constitution. Or if that is too much to ask right now, could you please help out with an urgent gift of $20 or $35? It will certainly cost you more than $35 if Bill Clinton wins and is allowed to pass any big-government plan he pleases! And remember, Mountain States Legal Foundation is a nonprofit organization. So your gift to help this vital project and all of MSLF's work is tax-ductible. I hope you can include your tax-deductible gift of $20, $35 or more to help the great folks at Mountain States Legal Foundation stand by my side in this important battle. Thanks for being someone I can count on! For America, Hon. Helen Chenoweth U.S. House of Representatives Make checks payable to: Hon. Helen Chenoweth Member of Congress c/o MOUNTAIN STATES LEGAL FONDATION 951 20th Street P.O. Box 1560 Denver,CO. 80201-1560 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hear No Evil? See No Evil? Speak No Evil? -- Please pass this on
-Caveat Lector- Hear No Evil? See No Evil? Speak No Evil? By Betsy Ross II (nom de plume) "By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America..." Let's say those words again, very slowly. "By...the...authority...vested...in...me...as...President...by...the... Constitution...and...the...laws...of...the...United...States...of...America." Very powerful words, aren't they? These words of authority have been and are being used to corrupt and destroy the authority of the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America! Otherwise, Executive Order 13107, known as "IMPLEMENTATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS TREATIES", would have been met with passionate objection. Those in Congress, elected to serve this great Republic, have an obligation to scrutinize this executive order and other executive orders. These orders are written in very definitive and powerful language, yet at times deliberately obfuscating the intended agenda. These decrees by executive fiat affect the lives, welfare and future of every American. Accessing the executive orders is very easy to do. The executive orders are listed in the Federal Register and the White House Virtual Library located at http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_govdocs/19981223_govdoc_index_exe.s html">Index of Executive Orders . http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_govdocs/19981223_govdoc_index_exe.shtml By typing in Clinton for the subject and selecting 300 for the number of returns, it pulls up all 184 Clinton EOs on the site. Has Congress neglected to scrutinize and, thus, provided no objection to this executive order? I would say so, for they seldom read the bills they sign their own names to in their entirety. Perhaps there are those "on the Hill" who think most Americans are not only too busy, but too stupid to understand executive orders, and in particular Executive Order 13107. As a result of that thought process, could it be that evil is being perpetrated on the Republic of the United States of America? The definition of "evil": 1. Morally bad or wrong; wicked; depraved. 2. Causing pain or trouble; harmful; injurious. 3. Threatening or bringing misfortune; unlucky; disastrous; unfortunate; as, an evil hour. 4. Resulting from or based on conduct regarded as immoral; as, an evil reputation. Your right to freedom and liberty, spattered and splashed with the blood of the American soldier, has been ripped from the pages of the Constitution of the United States of America and has been replaced with the writing of Executive Order 13107! When? On December 10, 1998. And you ask: What is Executive Order 13107? For the purpose of information and review, let us take a look at the definition of an executive order. 1. An executive order is a presidential decree or edict that assumes the force of law if it is not challenged by Congress within 30 days of signing. They are printed in the Federal Register. 2. These laws are not passed by the House or the Senate and create an end-run around the Constitution, governing by fiat. 3. These laws are unconstitutional because the Constitution does not afford any person the right to create laws by himself that negate the Constitution. How many executive orders have been signed into law? Too numerous to mention individually. As of May 31, 1999, Clinton has written over 200 executive orders. Some are classified and are not available for public view. However, a list of all the executive orders is viewed by accessing the Federal Register. The words "Executive Order" has the sound of a memo written by the president of a corporation. And as you continue to read, think about that analogy in terms of how it applies to you as an American. The language and text of Executive Order 13107, Implementation of Human Rights Treaties, may be difficult to read and understand. To clarify the import of this executive order, reference is made to an article written by Joseph Farah. Joseph Farah is editor of WorldNetDaily.Com and Executive Director of the Western Journalism Center, an independent group of investigative reporters. With his permission, the article written by Joseph Farah serves as a basis for writing this article. The comments written by Mr. Farah and which are quoted, as well as those comments written outside of the quotes, which is the subject matter of this article, are intended to encourage you to think and to investigate, if you will, or research on your own, the undeniable importance and outrageous effects of Executive Order 13107. Because this executive order affects your life, welfare and future as well as the life, welfare and future generations of Americans, time has been taken-again-to encourage you to read this article. It is said "We perish for lack of knowledge." As you read, do not be surprised if deep within your soul a quiet storm builds. If you have never called yourself a "Patriot" before, welcome. You are informed that: th
