Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- Nobody could be older than Prudy unless it would be Queen of Prunes, June. Saba http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 03/01/2001 10:47:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << As for my own 5 grown children, they are probably older than you. >> Don't bet on that. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- Prudy, what the hell are you talking about??? Do you know??? As for my own 5 grown children, they are probably older than you. Get that huge chip off your shoulder and civilize up. I'm about fed up with you and you cohorts and your rude and nasty remarks, trying to fight everybody and everything. You cannot even recognize an ally when you see one -- your constant nastiness, rudeness, and whining are truly becoming tiresome. Get a life. BB http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- Prudy, what the hell are you talking about??? Do you know??? As for my own 5 grown children, they are probably older than you. Get that huge chip off your shoulder and civilize up. I'm about fed up with you and you cohorts and your rude and nasty remarks, trying to fight everybody and everything. Get a life. BB http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
In a message dated 02/28/2001 3:59:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let's excuse every idiotioc, juvenile, criminal act that numbskull and his wife ever committed on the weak and pathetic excuse that "well, OTHER people did bad things too". What superb logic. He was supposed to be ABOVE everyone else - the MOST ETHICAL. ALL presidents and elected officials are supposed to be ABOVE everyone else. It's delightful to see how open-hearted and forgiving you liberals are, as long as the miscreants are LIBERAL DEMOCRATS. It's curious to think that the conservatives are questioning Clinton's morals without condeming ALL the others. If they truly want to influence morals, one would think they would do so on all elected officials and not just the democrats. Or do they just become moralistic when the opposition falters? Do we only persecute, blacks, hispanics and democrats or do the conservatives believe in equal rights or did they just discover morals? I'm not excusing Clinton's actions or Bushes or Reagan's. But if we are going to get moralistic let's be equitable. Discuss1234 Web Site: horsesdontfly.com
Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- Maybe Clinton is a woman?Maybe he is both? Its a strange world - it was his unusual choice for attorney general (Janet Reno) that made me wonder. Wonder if Clinton was in the girl scouts? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- > According to the international group "Witnesses For Pease," ***FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND*** innocent Iraqi children **PER YEAR** have died horrific deaths (curable infection, starvation, etc.) via the "humanitarian economic sanctions" Bush Sr. instituted in '91 at the end of the Persian Gulf War. You're right. Sorry. I should have said, " . . . AT LEAST half million . . ." The fact is, we don't know how many, so it's better to err upward. Besides, even one of these deaths is too many. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 02/28/2001 7:44:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << >Whose heart do I hear breaking for the late Vince Foster? Whose heart do I hear breaking for the half million Iraqi civilians, almost all of them women and children, who died as a result of Clinton's blockade of Iraq? If one rails against Clinton, and not even mentions his single greatest crime, there must be a reason. What's yours? >> You're right in your assessment of a greatest crime, but I'm not sure it was initiated by Clinton. I just don't think he had the courage to go against the Bush resolutions about Iraq. He never struck me as being just that particular type of bastard--gutless on occasion, yes. If what I'm hearing mentioned now is the pulling of the sanctions against Iraq, Dubya may vindicate his past sins. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 02/28/2001 7:33:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << As for Chelsie or Chelsea - there are rumours she is a lesbian but what would you expect - like father like mother like daughter? >> Dear Lord, Saba, is Bill Clinton a lesbian? Fascinating. More facts please, possibly a picture? Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- Well BB I can only hope that your own children (if and when you have them) are so fortunate as to have the exact same life experience that you feel was so pleasant for Chelsea. It is the least I can hope for you, since we all know that we dream of a "better" life for our children. Your judgment of the "better life" is not mine, but be that as it may, I wish your children the 'better life" you wish for them. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Nessie wrote: > >Whose heart do I hear breaking for the late Vince Foster? > > Whose heart do I hear breaking for the half million Iraqi civilians, > almost all of them women and children, who died as a result of Clinton's > blockade of Iraq? > Where did you get these stats? According to the international group "Witnesses For Pease," ***FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND*** innocent Iraqi children **PER YEAR** have died horrific deaths (curable infection, starvation, etc.) via the "humanitarian economic sanctions" Bush Sr. instituted in '91 at the end of the Persian Gulf War. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- I this Nessie if you go into archives but hardly worth your while I wrote many different times about Iraq and noted in particular that Kuwait was the property of Iraq and it was stolen from Kuwait. Many times I have referred also to Waco and what happened to the children there? Bush is supposedly going to see sanctions are liftedOsama bin Laden wants to restore the rightful King to Saudi Arabia and I spent a day with that guy along with my bosswithin a year they murdered his father - a black from Berkley. Like Waco Iraquis are to sit back and let boots walk ovthem? The Palestiians forced our of their own homeland? All this murder and nobody cares because all are afraid to say the word Zionism? i remember when the people of Kuwait had show on 60 Minutes bragging how wonderful they were and how rich they wereand suddenly Sadaam came a knocking...his people stole their VCR's and Televisions and this one horrible American woman screamed when are you Americans coming over here to put a stop to this? What the hell do I care about Kuwait - their stolen wealth from Iraq? The claimed they were richest people in the world per capital wise because of stolen oil from Iraq? We have no legal right at all to interfere with a war between Israel and the Arab nations; however, if you move out these Zionists think you would find peace restored in middle East but nobody wants peace, do they - it is the oil they are after and evrybody knows it.so they murder and slaughter the innocents all in the name of religion? I was onto that stuff in College - a religious school and a CIA Agent from Korea sat on the Board of Directors while a Professor was later deported back to Russia and illegal alien? Boy that old bat hated me...think because my brother in law insisted I go to that college and then came to visit with his full dress uniform and at the time, he wore his Joint Chief of Staff badge and I didn't know he was CIA? This stuff has been going on for years but the greatest laugh was this "yellow peril" - my mother went to college in the early 1900 period and her professor too, taught of the yellow peril. Could never figure out why big, rich China with billions and billions and trillions of dollars in naatural resources, would want USA> For to me Nessie, the people of this country who have made the greatest contributions by building roads and bridges and buildings and sewer lines - these are our most important assets and that, the Chinese cannot buy. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- Yes, you are right. I agree with you. I just didn't think of it. And, just a few days age I was reminded and newly enraged about the horrendous murders of many thousands of Africans, Rwandans, and how those maniacs were hacking innocent civilians to death, but on one in the U. S. government even took notice. BB Nessie wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > >Whose heart do I hear breaking for the late Vince Foster? > > Whose heart do I hear breaking for the half million Iraqi civilians, > almost all of them women and children, who died as a result of Clinton's > blockade of Iraq? > > If one rails against Clinton, and not even mentions his single greatest > crime, there must be a reason. What's yours? > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > =CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing >propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- Now, now, Aleisha, that's a little cruel. As far as I'm concerned, the daughter is out of the loop - unless she should decide to run for governor of New Jersey or something similar. You know you can't choose your parents, and I'm sure she would'nt have picked those two if she did have a choice. BB Aleisha Saba wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Well I am interested in the Vince Foster connection with the swiss bank > accounts - and could it be that Clinton was offered an 8 million dollar > a year job - remember - by Richie Rich aka Marc Rich aka Marc Reich? > > Maybe Mr. Rich's US property should be held as well as any bank accounts > in his companies names - most people on the body bag count seemed to > know something they should not have known or bungled onto something so > sinister they could not live with it? > > As for Chelsie or Chelsea - there are rumours she is a lesbian but what > would you expect - like father like mother like daughter? > > But that is her choice - is this why the sodomists are still after the > Boy Scouts and now use NYC as home base? > > Wonder if Chelsie was in the boy scouts? > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- >Whose heart do I hear breaking for the late Vince Foster? Whose heart do I hear breaking for the half million Iraqi civilians, almost all of them women and children, who died as a result of Clinton's blockade of Iraq? If one rails against Clinton, and not even mentions his single greatest crime, there must be a reason. What's yours? www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- Well I am interested in the Vince Foster connection with the swiss bank accounts - and could it be that Clinton was offered an 8 million dollar a year job - remember - by Richie Rich aka Marc Rich aka Marc Reich? Maybe Mr. Rich's US property should be held as well as any bank accounts in his companies names - most people on the body bag count seemed to know something they should not have known or bungled onto something so sinister they could not live with it? As for Chelsie or Chelsea - there are rumours she is a lesbian but what would you expect - like father like mother like daughter? But that is her choice - is this why the sodomists are still after the Boy Scouts and now use NYC as home base? Wonder if Chelsie was in the boy scouts? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- Ahhh, yes -- the boogey man -- "The Republican Right" made them do it. Let's excuse every idiotioc, juvenile, criminal act that numbskull and his wife ever committed on the weak and pathetic excuse that "well, OTHER people did bad things too". What superb logic. He was supposed to be ABOVE everyone else - the MOST ETHICAL. It's delightful to see how open-hearted and forgiving you liberals are, as long as the miscreants are LIBERAL DEMOCRATS. POOR Chelsea... read Gary Aldrich's "Unlimited Access" to see just how "poor" poor Chelsea was. And, why in the world are you agonizing over her? EVERYONE loves her, and she has parents who are multi-millionaires. There's far more to lament than the fate of a 21 year old who's been the darling of the press for the last 8 years. Whose heart do I hear breaking for the late Vince Foster? I wonder what he thinks of the MOST ETHICAL administration? BB "Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: > There has been some unspeakable filth surrounding the > Clinton presidency, but for some strange reason, it seems to have leaked > there from the Republican right. Prudy > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 02/26/2001 9:53:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Amid the maelstrom that continues to envelop them, a major landmark will be passed in the Clinton family tomorrow; Chelsea comes of age. The only daughter of the still compulsively newsworthy ex-president and the recently elected senator for New York will turn 21. In normal circumstances, it should be a matter for raucous rejoicing. The once gauche teenager with the gaudy brace is but a memory, ready to strike out into a fully-fledged state of independence. But for Chelsea the auguries could hardly be grimmer. With the raging pardons controversy casting as thick a pall over the former first family as anything they ever encountered during their scandal-plagued White House years, the mood of celebration will be decidedly dampened. Her fatherâs reputation is now in unmitigated disrepute; her motherâs political career is tarnished, perhaps beyond repair. >> Chelsea never got to be at a party. From the time she was twelve years old and Rush Limbaugh was laughing with one of his kooky guests about how she was so ugly, right through to that weirdo from England wanting to kill her, Chelsea has not had a party. She has been caught in the crossfire as the Republican Party and its moral, high minded religious right leadership has spread every evil word it can find out or make up about her father, her mother and even herself. She's a bright girl, and she probably knew about oral sex even before Congress and Mr. Starr explained it so very carefully on the evening news using her father and the planted stooge, Monica, to demonstrate for the rest of the United States. They were very explicit, SEVERAL TIMES, since they thought us all so stupid and naive we were hopelessly out of touch with anything but the missionary position. It's funny when you think of it. John-John was a child in a White House where there were hot-and-cold running girls, but no one really minded. Johnson's girls grew up there when their dad had several secretaries in several places in the Oval Office, and neither we nor they had to listen to the nuances of those unimportant affairs. I haven't paid a lot of attention to who pardoned whom, but George Bush the elder certainly did himself some really wonderful favors when he pardoned the entire Iran-Contra group. And I think he pardoned Armand Hammer too. And Hillary is as honorable as any other member of the House. Remember how long it took them to finally find a guy who hadn't cheated on his wife to make the Speaker. Nobody had ever heard of Hastert. He certainly wasn't on the short list. I think Chelsea has had a remarkable education as to what America is willing to do to a young girl when the power in America doesn't like her mom and dad. There has been some unspeakable filth surrounding the Clinton presidency, but for some strange reason, it seems to have leaked there from the Republican right. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Is the party over for Chelsea? Robert Tait Amid the maelstrom that continues to envelop them, a major landmark will be passed in the Clinton family tomorrow; Chelsea comes of age. The only daughter of the still compulsively newsworthy ex-president and the recently elected senator for New York will turn 21. In normal circumstances, it should be a matter for raucous rejoicing. The once gauche teenager with the gaudy brace is but a memory, ready to strike out into a fully-fledged state of independence. But for Chelsea the auguries could hardly be grimmer. With the raging pardons controversy casting as thick a pall over the former first family as anything they ever encountered during their scandal-plagued White House years, the mood of celebration will be decidedly dampened. Her fatherâs reputation is now in unmitigated disrepute; her motherâs political career is tarnished, perhaps beyond repair. For Chelsea, who was a model of public decorum throughout the Clinton presidency, these troubling considerations may be lightened by the knowledge that she is now old enough to celebrate her birthday by legally imbibing alcohol (21 is the legal drinking age in America). But what does it say about the say about Chelsea's long-term future? How will she be affected by the experience of witnessing her parentsâ lives assailed by an unremitting avalanche of allegations, denunciations and revelations? The lifetime track records of the offspring of presidents present a predictably mixed picture. Some fade into obscurity; Others reappear to experience a brief 15 minutes of fame (or infamy) in their own right; very occasionally, still others will be cast by their fatherâs aura into a lifetime of reflected celebrity; and just once in a blue moon, along will come one so impressed by their fatherâs former job that they decide to seek it for themselves. There are no obvious clues as to which category Chelsea will fall into. During the Clinton White House years, she was assiduously protected from media intrusion. Interviews were out of the question; Chelsea, in fact, was barred by her parents from speaking to the press. The sound of her voice remains a mystery to the public. Nor does history necessarily offer a guide. There is simply no precedent for the child of a president having to watch the strains in their parentsâ marriage being aired in public. That experience may have shaped her beyond measure. At the time of the Monica Lewinsky scandal, psychologists speculated on the toll the revelations of her fatherâs misdeeds might be taking on the first daughter. The abiding public image of Chelsea was provided when the saga was at its zenith. It was August 1998. Her father had at last brought himself to openly admit his "inappropriate" relationship. The first couple were estranged, irreconcilably so it seemed at the time. The media ogled for evidence of a marital break-up. But when the President and First Lady emerged from the White House, on their way to the presidential helicopter taking them to their summer vacation on Marthaâs Vineyard, there was Chelsea plonked strategically between them, holding on to the hand of each parent, a living symbol of familial unity. It was an intensely political gesture, the mark of a young woman willing to step into the breach when her parents were emotionally indisposed. Bearing that incident in mind, the newly mature Chelsea seems an unlikely candidate for a future of anonymity. For all her parentsâ protection, she has been close to the spotlight since she was 12. Fame and attention wonât feel unnatural to her. Nor does the glow of celebrity surrounding the Clintons show any signs of fading, even if their reputation is now in freefall. So now that she is old enough to escape the protective parental cocoon, Chelsea may become fair game for a media that was only just managing to restrain itself while her father was in office. The setting for this could be in Britain. Chelsea is due to graduate from Californiaâs prestigious Stanford university in the spring. She is said to have expressed a desire to follow a path trod by her father more than 30 years ago by studying at Oxford on a Rhodes scholarship. In a sense, that would follow a pattern. Bill and Hillary seem to have been grooming their daughter to follow in their footsteps into a life of high-profile public service. Last year, while the teenage twin daughters of George Bush scarcely made an appearance on the campaign trail, Chelsea assumed a greater visibility than ever. With Mrs Clinton campaigning in the New York senate race, she took on the role of an ersatz First Lady, accompanying her father on numerous diplomatic trips abroad and on a visit to US troops in the Balkans. She was at the presidentâs side at the United Nations global summit in New York last September. When Clinton was locked in intensive talks with
