Re: [CTRL] John McCain, Traitor
-Caveat Lector- BF>The WSWS is very interesting. They are a Left-wing anti-NWO organization. They are also kind of a cult. It is very North Korean, with a (deceased) leader who is essentially venerated. Supposedly, the linked up with LaRouche for a while. As far as McCain is concered, I do not know if he is a "socialist" because I do not really know what that is. I do know that he has the marks of a Manchurian candidate. If he is not controlled by the 'Cong, then I do not know what to make of him. Of course, it is also possible that Kissinger and the gang re-programmed him to take orders from "our" side, but that the basic programming was done in Hanoi. I cannot prove this, except for the strange mannerisms he exhibits, seemingly as if on cue. A former chairperson of the CFR was also a POW. That is not bad, in fact it could be quite good. However, given the history of mind control on both sides of the iron curtain I am entitled to a little irresponsible speculation, especially when my freedoms are concerned. The again, McCain has his appeal. I definitely like how he stands up to big money. Is not campaign finance reform a good idea? I want our democratic process de-Enronized as much as possible. Bates Euphorian wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > On 27 Feb 2002 at 1:36, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > > > Well, yes, fair enough, and I do the same thing, and my political > > views are undeniably different than Bill R's in many respects ... > > A while ago, I posted something from the WSWS. A day or so later, some fellow > from Hungary or Slovakia keyed in on the source of the article, reflecting on the >fact > that the Cold War was fought against "socialism" and he had left his native land for > the Land of the Free to escape that political perspective. Unfortunately, he had >been > exposed to an Eastern European flavour of "socialism" that probably tended more > towards "totalitarianism" with a kinder and gentler name only. > > I explained to him that just because the name is there doesn't determine an ablsolute > contextual content. Just because the site is "socialist" doesn't mean the articles >are > bad or are filled with wrong information. > > When I first began visiting the site, the articles were filled with all kinds of >screedy > catch-words and -phrases (the bourgeoisie this and the workers of the world that). >It > became a hassle to read beyond that when the information was basically very good. > I wrote to them (as I am sure others did as well) to explain to them that they could >get > their point across quite well in the WAY they presented the information without using > all the Marxist lingo we're so used to hearing from North Korea, for example. > > Perhaps due to me or due to other factors, the articles dropped much of that > politicisation. My first visit was due to a linque at Yahoo! Now, I find linques to > WSWS from all over the place, simply because they cover various subjects from a > unique perspective. No one else will catalog the jobs that are lost by company or > sector the way they do. This became informational when Bill Jeff was touting his > jobs creation efforts when -- in fact -- almost as many jobs were being lost. > Employment was a wash at many times. But the mainstream media only highlighted > the gains, mostly in the service sector when manufacturing jobs were lost. > > Regardless of any political perspective presented, there's always the possibility for > obversion, looking at the other side of the coin. > > A<>E<>R > > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. P
Re: [CTRL] John McCain, Traitor
In a message dated 2/27/02 2:24:18 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: may i ask, what does this have to do with conspiracy theory research? As usual with Richer, not much... Bill.
Re: [CTRL] John McCain, Traitor
-Caveat Lector- On 27 Feb 2002 at 1:36, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > Well, yes, fair enough, and I do the same thing, and my political > views are undeniably different than Bill R's in many respects ... A while ago, I posted something from the WSWS. A day or so later, some fellow from Hungary or Slovakia keyed in on the source of the article, reflecting on the fact that the Cold War was fought against "socialism" and he had left his native land for the Land of the Free to escape that political perspective. Unfortunately, he had been exposed to an Eastern European flavour of "socialism" that probably tended more towards "totalitarianism" with a kinder and gentler name only. I explained to him that just because the name is there doesn't determine an ablsolute contextual content. Just because the site is "socialist" doesn't mean the articles are bad or are filled with wrong information. When I first began visiting the site, the articles were filled with all kinds of screedy catch-words and -phrases (the bourgeoisie this and the workers of the world that). It became a hassle to read beyond that when the information was basically very good. I wrote to them (as I am sure others did as well) to explain to them that they could get their point across quite well in the WAY they presented the information without using all the Marxist lingo we're so used to hearing from North Korea, for example. Perhaps due to me or due to other factors, the articles dropped much of that politicisation. My first visit was due to a linque at Yahoo! Now, I find linques to WSWS from all over the place, simply because they cover various subjects from a unique perspective. No one else will catalog the jobs that are lost by company or sector the way they do. This became informational when Bill Jeff was touting his jobs creation efforts when -- in fact -- almost as many jobs were being lost. Employment was a wash at many times. But the mainstream media only highlighted the gains, mostly in the service sector when manufacturing jobs were lost. Regardless of any political perspective presented, there's always the possibility for obversion, looking at the other side of the coin. A<>E<>R http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] John McCain, Traitor
-Caveat Lector- > There are no conspiracies; there are only underinformed people who >think there are such things because they failed to keep abreast of things. A "conspiracy" is when others act together to accomplish a common goal - and I disapprove of the goal. A "combined effort" is when others act together to accomplish a common goal - and I approve of the goal. A "conspiratorial combined effort" is when others act together to accomplish a common goal - but the stated goal is different from the actual goal. A "subliminal conspiracy" is when others act together to accomplish a common goal - but do so instinctively since they share a similiar mindset. flw http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] John McCain, Traitor
-Caveat Lector- You are right on track, Euphorian.always follow the little red dots and arrows until you find a copy of the Koran. Or track all the Bufords in the world, to the FBI. give credit where credit is due. OSaba http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] John McCain, Traitor
-Caveat Lector- Well Bill, it was John McCain who was trying to get the Republicans to tell Bush that everytime someone sang O'Susannah, that McCain who was Manchurian Candidate, would go bananas. Problem here was, if they sang that - Egyptian Jews would start bombing American Movie Houses and Embassies..(Lavon Affair - when Israelis played this song on their radio the REAL Manchurian Candidates like Zombies, who blow up all those yankee doodle movie house and blame on those poor arabs..) OSaba At least Bush gave that guy who created the "Evil Axis" or "Axis of Evil" - my gosh forgot that one alrady - but at least, Bush gave his speechwritere full credit for that line. What a nice man. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] John McCain, Traitor
-Caveat Lector- i understand what you're getting at; there are plenty of posts that are more or less partisan propaganda but may contain some unusual bits of info that are useful or informative. i'm totally open minded if i'm learning something new, and i always take time to scan through all posts to see if there is something there. but i would assume that everyone is smart enough to keep up on news that is easily available through mainstream channels? anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows by now what john mccain's stance is on campaign financing legislation. so, i didn't see the post in question as offering anything informative at all, only hardcore propaganda. no dots. however, if there is an interesting, well articulated, and factually detailed argument to be made that mccain is an NWO socialist, i would be fascinated to hear it! that would be the kind of thing i joined this list for. -brian >-Caveat Lector- > >On 27 Feb 2002 at 17:18, Brian Salter wrote: > >> may i ask, what does this have to do with conspiracy theory research? > >We play this little game here called "connect the dots". The Secret >to the game is to >get dots. Now, on some topix there might be a lot of dots and on >others there may >be only a few. And some dots are just for fun. But we try to make >the pictures come >out nontheless. > -- ~~~ Brian Salter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] John McCain, Traitor
-Caveat Lector- At 03:18 AM 2/27/02 , you wrote: >-Caveat Lector- > >may i ask, what does this have to do with conspiracy theory research? > >-b Because McCain is one of THEM. . http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] John McCain, Traitor
-Caveat Lector- Well, yes, fair enough, and I do the same thing, and my political views are undeniably different than Bill R's in many respects ... But the WJPBR Email News List is not the only source for information, even as a conservative. And they do a lot of smear pieces with a dualatiy of politics as their main crux. Personally, I believe that's also part of the problem, so any ctrl articles with celebrate one party and demonize the other consistently are not to be taken seriously, at least by me. Yes, there may be valuable information there, but objectivity is more important in ferreting out conspiracy theory than in other journalism, I would opine. Not that it makes the facts less worthwhile, but it does place it in one corner right away ... - jt - Original Message - From: "Euphorian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 27 Feb 2002 at 17:18, Brian Salter wrote: > > > may i ask, what does this have to do with conspiracy theory research? > > We play this little game here called "connect the dots". The Secret to the game is to > get dots. Now, on some topix there might be a lot of dots and on others there may > be only a few. And some dots are just for fun. But we try to make the pictures come > out nontheless. > > When reading and researching for a LONG time, little bits and pieces of articles > make sense in the larger construct of things, even when they aren't major foci in the > articles. Years ago, I started posting articles on the Caspian oil ventures. At the > time, they seemed just like another business series that had not much meaning > beyond the boardroom and the prospecti. Well, now we have this little war going on > in South Asia and the Caspian oil relationship seems to be pretty pertinent. > > Many times the sense is very subtle and other times it's like a pie in the face. And > then there are times when nothing goes nowhere. But we all try to have fun. > > There are no conspiracies; there are only underinformed people who think there are > such things because they failed to keep abreast of things. > > A<>E<>RIntegrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking > new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] John McCain, Traitor
-Caveat Lector- On 27 Feb 2002 at 17:18, Brian Salter wrote: > may i ask, what does this have to do with conspiracy theory research? We play this little game here called "connect the dots". The Secret to the game is to get dots. Now, on some topix there might be a lot of dots and on others there may be only a few. And some dots are just for fun. But we try to make the pictures come out nontheless. When reading and researching for a LONG time, little bits and pieces of articles make sense in the larger construct of things, even when they aren't major foci in the articles. Years ago, I started posting articles on the Caspian oil ventures. At the time, they seemed just like another business series that had not much meaning beyond the boardroom and the prospecti. Well, now we have this little war going on in South Asia and the Caspian oil relationship seems to be pretty pertinent. Many times the sense is very subtle and other times it's like a pie in the face. And then there are times when nothing goes nowhere. But we all try to have fun. There are no conspiracies; there are only underinformed people who think there are such things because they failed to keep abreast of things. A<>E<>RIntegrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] John McCain, Traitor
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Bill Richer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 2/27/02 3:24:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > > may i ask, what does this have to do with conspiracy theory research? > > > Isn't odd that this Republican acts like a Democrat! Well, not to me, though I'm neither a Democrat nor Republican. Such a perspective can help sometimes. > He befriends socialists > and communists and probably is thick in the NWO. Ain;t you glad you asked! The primary proof for this that you offer is that he is doing something which disagrees with you as a Republican. While that's fine to be upset with a political view, it does not alone a conspiracy make. OK, then, Bill, whom do you consider to be "clean?" - jt http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] John McCain, Traitor
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/27/02 3:24:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > may i ask, what does this have to do with conspiracy theory research? > > -b > Isn't odd that this Republican acts like a Democrat! He befriends socialists and communists and probably is thick in the NWO. Ain;t you glad you asked! http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] John McCain, Traitor
-Caveat Lector- may i ask, what does this have to do with conspiracy theory research? -b >-Caveat Lector- > >http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2001/april/rwt_mccain.htm > >WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! > >John McCain, Traitor >By Robert Tracinski (April 2, 2001) >[CAPITALISMMAGAZINE.COM] It is time to put the John McCain myth to rest. > >For years, the national media and a gullible grass-roots following have >glorified McCain as a man of integrity who deals in "straight talk." They >have promoted his image as a hero who fought bravely for his country in >Vietnam and who is now fighting to save politics from corruption by special >interests. -- ~~~ Brian Salter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2001/april/rwt_mccain.htm WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! John McCain, Traitor By Robert Tracinski (April 2, 2001) [CAPITALISMMAGAZINE.COM] It is time to put the John McCain myth to rest. For years, the national media and a gullible grass-roots following have glorified McCain as a man of integrity who deals in "straight talk." They have promoted his image as a hero who fought bravely for his country in Vietnam and who is now fighting to save politics from corruption by special interests. I don't dispute McCain's war record. In Vietnam, he endured beatings and torture for the sake of his country. But the hero has since become a traitor. Today, for the sake of his own populist self-aggrandizement, McCain is betraying one of his country's most basic principles: the freedom of political expression. The most obvious form of this betrayal is McCain's proposed ban on political ads by independent groups within 60 days of an election. What does this mean? Imagine that it is Oct. 1, 2002, and John McCain is running for re-election. You and a group of like-minded friends pool together your money to buy a television spot in Phoenix saying "Don't Vote for John McCain." Under the McCain-Feingold bill, you would be breaking the law. When asked whether this would suppress free speech, McCain and his followers glibly assert that "money is not speech." But how can you have the right to speak -- unless you have the right to use your own money and resources to broadcast your ideas? That's like telling a publisher he can print whatever he wants -- so long as he doesn't spend money to buy printing presses. The most brazen aspect of this proposal is the fact that McCain would suppress political speech specifically in an election season -- precisely when a citizen's freedom to express his political views is most crucially needed. Such a provision is patently unconstitutional -- and patently un-American. But McCain doesn't stop there. He was adamantly opposed to any increase in "hard money" limits on direct contributions to candidates, and he managed to cut the proposed increase by half. It is well known that hard money limits -- set at $1,000 in 1974 and never increased despite decades of inflation -- favor incumbents, who have built up extensive fund-raising networks. Maverick challengers, who rely on a smaller pool of donors, are starved out. But what if a challenger is wealthy enough to finance his own campaign? McCain-Feingold has that covered, too. In that case, the incumbent's contribution limits are lifted to $6,000, helping him stave off the challenger. And then, as icing on the cake, McCain led our public-spirited senators in voting themselves a new government-enforced discount on television advertising time. McCain says that campaign finance reform is needed to safeguard the integrity of our politicians. It looks more as if it is intended to safeguard their political careers by shutting out challengers and muzzling independent critics. McCain's tactics are as dubious as his goals. He has demanded that his whole package of campaign finance controls be "severable" -- that is, if one part of the bill is struck down by the courts, the others will remain. So this avatar of integrity is asking his fellow senators to pass a bill whose exact content they cannot know, since it is almost certain to be revised by the Supreme Court. Consider also the collateral damage from McCain's crusade. For the past two weeks, McCain's quest for campaign finance controls has sidelined a tax cut proposal that is an important step toward curbing the growth of government. This is a crucial time. The Democrats are in full disarray on taxes, as demonstrated by their appeal to such lame counter-proposals as a one-time tax rebate -- a failed idea resurrected from the failed Carter administration. Now is the time for Senate Republicans to push president Bush's tax cut. Instead, McCain is handing Bush a political booby-trap. If he vetoes McCain-Feingold -- as he should -- Bush risks being pilloried as a lackey of special interests. Bush should have the courage to face down this slander and reject McCain-Feingold as unconstitutional. But the damage will still be done -- and McCain's fellow Republicans should remember it. Jack Wakeland summed it up best last year in an article in my magazine, The Intellectual Activist. McCain, he wrote, "has raised every conceivable concern about constituents' improper influence over their government, while expressing little or no concern about the government's improper power over its constituents." That is McCain's act of treason. He fought for liberty in Vietnam -- only to fight against liberty in the Senate. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a pr
