Re: [CTRL] Media try to con the people into believing Bush won
Mr. Shannon, You seem like another dime-a-dozen Limb Idiot clinton-Gore-freak! Those two bungling idiots along with the rest of the traitors in their administration should be arrested, tried, convicted and properly executed for their high treason! Try that on for size Mr. Shannon Butch - Original Message - From: William Shannon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Media try to con the people into believing Bush won In a message dated 4/6/01 8:30:45 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can't believe anyone is still wasting time about this. You better believe that if Gore really won, the NY TIMES and THE WASHINGTON COMPOST and the other liars would put it in the HEADLINES!Can't believe any self-respecting collie would take the time to essentially defend a Bush either!!! Are you totally ignorant or are you not aware of the SPOOKY and quite questionable bloodline and heritage of the Bush Dynasty??? You seem like another dine-a-dozen LimbIdiot...a Rush-freak. Are you? You're CLEARLY kontrolled...are you clear enough to admit it? Bill.
Re: [CTRL] Media try to con the people into believing Bush won
-Caveat Lector- From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't believe anyone is still wasting time about this. You better believe that if Gore really won, the NY TIMES and THE WASHINGTON Can't believe any self-respecting collie would take the time to essentially defend a Bush either!!! I can't believe that anyone is wasting time arguing about who won and who lost, when the real loser is the American public. What SHOULD be discussed is why we are no longer given a real CHOICE when it comes to voting for the person to become President of the Republic; what SHOULD be discussed is why the candidates we are given are merely flip sides of the same coin. Scratch beneath the surface of ANY candidate, and you will find spooky and questionable bloodlines and heritage June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Media try to con the people into believing Bush won
-Caveat Lector- It doesn't matter who won or how. The president is a puppet. The government is a front. The real power is the corporations. They control the money supply, the food supply, the fuel supply, the land, the buildings, most means of communications, and the government. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Media try to con the people into believing Bush won
-Caveat Lector- I know all about the background of the Bush family and I am not happy about it. BUTTT do YOU know about the background of the GORE family? Obviously not. It's a matter of 'pick your poison'. We have not had any candidates that care about America for years.. If name calling provides you comfort, call on. I just read the first few words and delete.With rare exception, seeing 676767 in the header tells me that I can delete without having to read-an easy way to clean out my Inbox. On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:54:54 EDT William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 4/6/01 8:30:45 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can't believe anyone is still wasting time about this. You better believe that if Gore really won, the NY TIMES and THE WASHINGTON Can't believe any self-respecting collie would take the time to essentially defend a Bush either!!! Are you totally ignorant or are you not aware of the SPOOKY and quite questionable bloodline and heritage of the Bush Dynasty??? You seem like another dine-a-dozen LimbIdiot...a Rush-freak. Are you? You're CLEARLY kontrolled...are you clear enough to admit it? Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Media try to con the people into believing Bush won
-Caveat Lector- I agree with the first 3 sentences. But I don't think 'the real power is the corporations'. I believe even the corporations are controlled. On Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:22:52 -0700 Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- It doesn't matter who won or how. The president is a puppet. The government is a front. The real power is the corporations. They control the money supply, the food supply, the fuel supply, the land, the buildings, most means of communications, and the government. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Media try to con the people into believing Bush won
-Caveat Lector- Online Journal - http://www.onlinejournal.com 04-05-01: Once again, the media try to con the people into believing Bush won By Bev Conover April 5, 2001-With each little game the major media, with the exception of the Palm Beach Post, are playing with the Florida ballots in a feeble attempt to legitimize the illegitimate Bush administration, it becomes clearer and clearer, that, if one carefully reads what they are saying, Al Gore won the Sunshine State, was entitled to its 25 electoral votes and should be residing in the White House today. Perhaps if Kendall Coffey, a former U.S. attorney in Miami, had been the lead attorney on Gore's post-election legal team, instead of playing second or third fiddle to the flamboyant David Boies, Gore would be president today and we would not today be suffering the Bushistas' rampage to reverse engineer their way to the Fourth Reich. Instead we have headlines from the media's latest creative recount that scream: REVIEW SHOWS BALLOTS SAY BUSH -Miami Herald, April 4, 2001 Newspapers' recount shows Bush prevailed -USA Today, April 4, 2001 An Analysis of Florida Balloting Favors Bush -The New York Times, April 4, 2001 Another Ballot Review Shows Bush Still Won -Washington Post, April 4, 2001 Ballot Review: Bush Would Have Won Anyway -Los Angeles Times, April 4, 2001 . . . ad nauseum. Make the headlines big enough, bold enough, and put up charts and graphs, and the people will buy the lie, right? You know the old adage: Repeat the lie often enough and people will believe it. Obfuscate the issue with claims of inconsistencies in the way recounts that were underway were being conducted when the U.S. Supreme Court halted the process. To paraphrase Poppy Bush's "it's the vision thing" with another of the media's bold-faced lies, "It's the standards thing." Well, Florida has very clear laws about the way ballots will be designed, when and why ballots are to be recounted by machine and hand, and by whom, and who may apply for an absentee ballot. Coffey understood these laws. Boies, who focused on "the big picture," did not. It's much like that bloody forest that keeps getting in the way of seeing the trees. Ironically, buried in the April 4, 2001, Miami Herald is this story: Law: Check 'defective' ballots with the subhead: But officials often ignore code's call for inspection Herald reporter Jay Weaver wrote, "A revision of Florida's election code in the 1970s calls for county officials to inspect any ''damaged or defective'' ballot that cannot be tabulated by machine. In 1998, the Florida Supreme Court ruled that 'defective'' includes a ballot 'marked in a manner such that it cannot be read by a scanner.'" In the next paragraph Weaver pointed out, "Canvassing boards in most of Florida routinely ignore that provision of state law because they maintain they are only required to examine unreadable ballots if there is machine error, not voter error. On Nov. 7, they considered thousands of ballots that did not register a vote for any candidate the fault of voters who incorrectly marked them." But Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris's boy, Clay Roberts, a Republican who heads the Florida Division of Elections, told Weaver, "It's hard to know what the right answer is now." Might we translate that to mean he know what the right answers are, but if he gives them some folks would be facing a prison cell? Yet, the law says [section 101.5614 (5)]: "If any ballot card . . . is damaged or defective so that it cannot properly be counted by the automatic tabulating equipment, a true duplicate copy shall be made of the damaged ballot card in the presence of witnesses and substituted for the damaged ballot. . . . "If any paper ballot is damaged or defective so that it cannot be counted properly by the automatic tabulating equipment, the ballot shall be counted manually at the counting center by the canvassing board. The totals for all such ballots or ballot cards counted manually shall be added to the totals for the several precincts or election districts. . . . "After duplicating a ballot, the defective ballot shall be placed in an envelope provided for that purpose, and the duplicate ballot shall be tallied with the other ballots for that precinct." Hey, it's the Republicans who keep yammering about "the rule of law." Apparently, "the rule of law" doesn't apply when it's inconvenient or goes against their candidate. Weaver further noted, "Tucked into this section is the state's voter-intent law: 'No vote shall be declared invalid or void if there is a clear indication of the intent of the voter as determined by the canvassing board.'" Then he contended that law was ambiguous as to what "a damaged or defective ballot" is. Weaver has an interesting, to say the least, way of contradicting himself when the law clearly states that a damaged or defective ballot is one that "cannot be counted properly by the automatic tabulating
Re: [CTRL] Media try to con the people into believing Bush won
-Caveat Lector- Can't believe anyone is still wasting time about this. You better believe that if Gore really won, the NY TIMES and THE WASHINGTON COMPOST and the other liars would put it in the HEADLINES! -- On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:09:29 -0700 radman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Online Journal - http://www.onlinejournal.com 04-05-01: Once again, the media try to con the people into believing Bush won By Bev Conover April 5, 2001-With each little game the major media, with the exception of the Palm Beach Post, are playing with the Florida ballots in a feeble attempt to legitimize the illegitimate Bush administration, it becomes clearer and clearer, that, if one carefully reads what they are saying, Al Gore won the Sunshine State, was entitled to its 25 electoral votes and should be residing in the White House today. Perhaps if Kendall Coffey, a former U.S. attorney in Miami, had been the lead attorney on Gore's post-election legal team, instead of playing second or third fiddle to the flamboyant David Boies, Gore would be president today and we would not today be suffering the Bushistas' rampage to reverse engineer their way to the Fourth Reich. Instead we have headlines from the media's latest creative recount that scream: REVIEW SHOWS BALLOTS SAY BUSH -Miami Herald, April 4, 2001 Newspapers' recount shows Bush prevailed -USA Today, April 4, 2001 An Analysis of Florida Balloting Favors Bush -The New York Times, April 4, 2001 Another Ballot Review Shows Bush Still Won -Washington Post, April 4, 2001 Ballot Review: Bush Would Have Won Anyway -Los Angeles Times, April 4, 2001 . . . ad nauseum. Make the headlines big enough, bold enough, and put up charts and graphs, and the people will buy the lie, right? You know the old adage: Repeat the lie often enough and people will believe it. Obfuscate the issue with claims of inconsistencies in the way recounts that were underway were being conducted when the U.S. Supreme Court halted the process. To paraphrase Poppy Bush's "it's the vision thing" with another of the media's bold-faced lies, "It's the standards thing." Well, Florida has very clear laws about the way ballots will be designed, when and why ballots are to be recounted by machine and hand, and by whom, and who may apply for an absentee ballot. Coffey understood these laws. Boies, who focused on "the big picture," did not. It's much like that bloody forest that keeps getting in the way of seeing the trees. Ironically, buried in the April 4, 2001, Miami Herald is this story: Law: Check 'defective' ballots with the subhead: But officials often ignore code's call for inspection Herald reporter Jay Weaver wrote, "A revision of Florida's election code in the 1970s calls for county officials to inspect any ''damaged or defective'' ballot that cannot be tabulated by machine. In 1998, the Florida Supreme Court ruled that 'defective'' includes a ballot 'marked in a manner such that it cannot be read by a scanner.'" In the next paragraph Weaver pointed out, "Canvassing boards in most of Florida routinely ignore that provision of state law because they maintain they are only required to examine unreadable ballots if there is machine error, not voter error. On Nov. 7, they considered thousands of ballots that did not register a vote for any candidate the fault of voters who incorrectly marked them." But Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris's boy, Clay Roberts, a Republican who heads the Florida Division of Elections, told Weaver, "It's hard to know what the right answer is now." Might we translate that to mean he know what the right answers are, but if he gives them some folks would be facing a prison cell? Yet, the law says [section 101.5614 (5)]: "If any ballot card . . . is damaged or defective so that it cannot properly be counted by the automatic tabulating equipment, a true duplicate copy shall be made of the damaged ballot card in the presence of witnesses and substituted for the damaged ballot. . . . "If any paper ballot is damaged or defective so that it cannot be counted properly by the automatic tabulating equipment, the ballot shall be counted manually at the counting center by the canvassing board. The totals for all such ballots or ballot cards counted manually shall be added to the totals for the several precincts or election districts. . . . "After duplicating a ballot, the defective ballot shall be placed in an envelope provided for that purpose, and the duplicate ballot shall be tallied with the other ballots for that precinct." Hey, it's the Republicans who keep yammering about "the rule of law." Apparently, "the rule of law" doesn't apply when it's inconvenient or goes against their candidate. Weaver further noted, "Tucked into this section is the state's
Re: [CTRL] Media try to con the people into believing Bush won
In a message dated 4/6/01 8:30:45 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can't believe anyone is still wasting time about this. You better believe that if Gore really won, the NY TIMES and THE WASHINGTON COMPOST and the other liars would put it in the HEADLINES! Can't believe any self-respecting collie would take the time to essentially defend a Bush either!!! Are you totally ignorant or are you not aware of the SPOOKY and quite questionable bloodline and heritage of the Bush Dynasty??? You seem like another dine-a-dozen LimbIdiot...a Rush-freak. Are you? You're CLEARLY kontrolled...are you clear enough to admit it? Bill.
Re: [CTRL] Media try to con the people into believing Bush won
-Caveat Lector- You're CLEARLY kontrolled...are you clear enough to admit it? Bill. You talk like a Scientologist (CLEARLY kontrolled.) -- Best Wishes Anyone who is not an anarchist agrees with having a policeman at the corner of the street; but the danger at present is that of finding the policeman half-way down the chimney or even under the bed. - G. K. Chesterton, What I Saw In America, 1922 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
