Re: [CTRL] OEN 4/7/00

2000-04-08 Thread Robert F. Tatman

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"All we like sheep are gone astray..."

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 Southern Baptist Pastors Sexually Use Sheep


 Baaa.

 Christian News Today has been reporting on the factual fact and truth that
 Southern Baptists Leadership in America

 1) Sexually use their sheep in their churches

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Re: [CTRL] OEN 4/7/00

2000-04-08 Thread Tenorlove

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ROTFLMAOPDML!!!
Ain't it the truth?!?!

--- "Robert F. Tatman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 "All we like sheep are gone astray..."

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  The Religion Business
 
 
  Southern Baptist Pastors Sexually Use Sheep
 
 
  Baaa.
 
  Christian News Today has been reporting on the factual fact and
 truth that
  Southern Baptists Leadership in America
 
  1) Sexually use their sheep in their churches
 
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[CTRL] OEN 4/7/00

2000-04-07 Thread Kris Millegan

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Southern Baptist Pastors Sexually Use Sheep


Baaa.

Christian News Today has been reporting on the factual fact and truth that
Southern Baptists Leadership in America

1) Sexually use their sheep in their churches

2) Pretend to love everybody but think everyone is cultist except themselves
who alone have the truth while they deny the truth

3) Are Bigoted, anti-Catholic and segregationists

4) Are Savage wolves who rob, rape and use their own sheep

5) Are not financially accountable and are complete thieves and totally
dishonest

- Southern Baptist pastors sexually use their sheep in their churches. On Nov
8, 1999 the Southern Baptists in Texas admitted that at least 10 percent of
their pastors sexual use their sheep. Phil Strickland, director of the
Southern Baptist convention's Christian Life Commission, said research shows
that 10 percent to 12 percent of "ministers of all faith groups have engaged
in extramarital sexual relations with members of their congregations." He
said that, according to the American Association of Pastoral Counselors,
about 15 percent of ministers violate sexual ethical boundaries. He said his
office receives calls nearly every couple of weeks reported the Dallas
Morning News

"We have a deep concern about the way this issue is treated in many Baptist
churches," he said. "We have run into instance after instance in which there
has been a clear sexual abuse by a minister, and the response of the church
has been to sweep it under the rug." And for the first time in the
convention's history, ministers were urged to sign a covenant of sexual
ethics.
Christianity Today, which was founded by Billy Graham, did not report on one
of its own pastors Ollin Collins of Harvest Baptist Church in Fort Worth, and
Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary's board chairman. A man who
resigned amid sexual misconduct allegations when he was accused of having
sexual relationships with two women who sought counseling.

But it did report about the adultery of a black man and a National Baptist
but not about the adultery of a white man and Southern Baptist. An adultery
which was more hideous and gross because Collins raped unsuspecting trusting
women while, Lyons adulterous relationships were consensual. It has been said
that Lyons will go down in the history books as "Hugh Hefner of the New
Testament."

Now concerning the fallen hero, the church had suspended Pastor Collins with
pay pending an investigation. He resigned from his board position Sept. 6,
one day after a story in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported the women's
allegations and their intent to sue. Southwestern is the world's largest
evangelical seminary, with 3,000 students on eight campuses.

But of course neither the Seminary nor the Church did nothing for the real
female victims but they did help and console the aggressor? Just like Billy
Graham stated about Bill Clinton "I forgive him . . . because I know the
frailty of human nature, and especially a strong, vigorous young man like he
is. "He has such a tremendous personality that I think the ladies just go
wild over him."
Of course Bill Clinton was the victim and not the victimizer and it was the
fault of the ladies who went wild about him? No compassion or concern from
these Southern Baptist wolves in sheep's clothing for the victims but only
for the victimizers? Their deeds and lack of compassion for the victims
speaks volumes of their hypocrisy?

- It is a fact that for over a half of century all across America,
Fundamental Evangelical Southern Baptists have thrown out of their churches
those who spoke in tongues or were charismatic Christians while pretending to
be Christians and loving everybody. They have labeled all those who do not
believe and think as they do as cultist.

Southern Baptist generally believe that the Charismatic movement is of the
devil and play with words but in reality do not accept others whose religious
experience is different from theirs. For example the Florida Southern Baptist
Convention has on its books a resolution that no "tongue speaker" or
Charismatic Christian could be a member of a Baptist Church in Florida. The pa
stors of Idlewild Baptist Church, the largest Southern Baptist Church in
Tampa, Florida can often be heard berating and verbally abusing those who
speak in tongues and believe in the Baptism of the Spirit, forcing them to
leave the church.

In Oct. 1998, the Webster County Baptist Association voted to "disfellowship"
Calvary Baptist Church in Marshfield, Mo., because its pastors and many of
its members received the baptism in the Holy Spirit and where "slain in the
Spirit." Openly demonstrating their bigotry and intolerance of those whose
religious experience was the same as Apostle Paul about whom the bible

Re: [CTRL] OEN 4/7/00

2000-04-07 Thread Tenorlove

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Here is a list of my sins, as given in several flaming emails and club
posts, by a Southern Baptist:

1. I let my children watch Sesame Street, which "teaches pagan
religions and tolerance."

2. I "quote verses from other 'Bibles' than the KVJ." Her sig line
consists of the slogan "If it ain't KJV, it ain't Bible!" BTW, this
includes the Bible in the original languages. I asked her.

3. I defended someone who told her that Oprah has become a Christian 2
years ago. In my defense I mentioned narrow-mindedness and racial
bigotry.

Because of these "sins" I am, in her words, "of the devil and deserving
of death." My response to her was "You sound more like Hitler than
Jesus -- do you advocate killing everyone with whom you disagree?" It
scares me to think that someone so small-minded is educating the next
generation (she's home-schooling, as I am -- trust me, in her case I
think it's a big mistake).

And with that, all I can say is:

Gee, I'm sure glad I'm a cultist!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Thanks for the article, Kris

Tenorlove

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Re: [CTRL] OEN 4/7/00

2000-04-07 Thread Don Huffman

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Dear Kris:

You are being fairer than you think by bringing forth the fact that the
heinous exploitation of clergy of their flock is not confined to Catho-
lic clergy.  And is just as prevelant among protestant clergy as among
celbite Catholic clergy.  Let us be honest and not just point out Catho-
lic and Baptist clergy.  But because "they" are out to get the Catholic
Church we Catholics take the brunt of the heinous crime.


Sincerely and 
thank you,



 Don Huffman
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