[CTRL] polls....polls...where's the incesant reporting of polls of past elections?
-Caveat Lector- Yes where are the constant reporting of poll results? During the 1992 and 1996 election season I think if there was an interval of more than say 2 seconds between the reporting of a new poll (when Clinton was beating Geroge HW Bush and Bob Dole). What happening this season? Is it because the Liberal/left wing/marxist/leninist biased news media's candidate is behind in the polls (well at least doesn't have clear lead) all of a sudden reporting of polls is stiffled?? Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations visit my web site at http://www.info-quest.org My ICQ# is 79071904 See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of appeals doesn't want you to say. for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] POLLS [take your pick]
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[CTRL] Polls: Everyone, repeat after me :-) . . .
-Caveat Lector- All: Is it not possible that polls can be used by *any* political faction in pursuit of their agenda? If we are to look, as we should, at the origin of such polls (who funds, takes or publishes them), would it not be safe to conclude that ALL polls are the propaganda trash of their originators? Would our time not be better spent doing our own thinking? Everyone, repeat after me :-): ALL POLLS ARE PROPAGANDA! THEREFORE, ALL POLLS ARE TRASH! AS TRASH, THEY ARE COMPLETELY **USELESS** TO ANYONE IN SEARCH OF TRUTH OR FACT!! Edward DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Good job Jim. You've taken the time to research the subject and your conclusions verify what many others are saying, which is, that these Clinton polls showing him to be very popular are nonsense. After having read "Votescam" by the Collier brothers (both are now dead) I'm in agreement with you that the voting system in this country is totally compromised. What do you think of the book? Gavin. Hey, Jerry! Polling is a "discipline"??? A discipline in high risk, high stakes deception maybe -- when practised by the Big 5 TV networks (FOX now aboard in that elite group). Also, your assertion that "the American people" "elected" Clinton twice is merely an act of faith on your part, as it has been made illegal in every state but New Hampshire to exersize citizen checks and balances on the computerized vote count. That's right, just like in tin horn dictatorships, or Communist countries, any American citizen who tries to double check the vote at the neighborhood precinct will be met with police power and eventually arrested if they insist. First to polling: Who are these polling "practitioners" who know the "ins and outs"?? Please read SuperPollsters: How They Measure and Manipulate Public Opinion in America by David W. Moore, who himself has been a pollster for 26 years. The book is endorsed by David Broder of the Washington Post, so it can hardly be dismissed by people like yourself, who believe that the polls are "scientific." Here is a sentence from the concluding paragraphs of the book: "There is still a tendency for media polls to create the illusion of public opinion, by asking forced-choice questions on some topics that are unfamiliar to most people. And public opinion about most topics is not as fully explored as it was for the Persian Gulf War, often resulting in misleading conclusions about its stability and precision." end of quote. And then the concluding sentence ends with, " . . . polling can, indeed, provide a continuous monitoring of the elusive pulse of democracy. More or less." This is the polling industry speaking. I charge without doubt that the polling by the 5 Big TV networks on Clinton is weighted and dishonest. Who are they polling? Exactly how is the poll conducted? It's permissable to question and scrutinize ANYTHING in the election process EXCEPT 1) How polls are done and who is polled; 2) how the votes are "counted" by the computer programs (I have yet to talk to one county official who signs election results as "true" who can even name the person who programmed the computer which counted the votes!!!) and yet, we are supposed to run our entire country based on these daily polls, and the computerized vote counting, -- and also on that complete hoax known as "exit polling" The ENTIRE argument of the sorry rabble of Clintonistes on the talk shows is -- THE POLLS and the COMPUTERIZED VOTE COUNTS of the last two Presidential elections. What a gullible nation we have become. I'm sorry to have to refer to my own website, but www.networkamerica.org contains much much more information on the unverifiable and riggable nature of exit polls and computerized voting, as well as numerous referrals to experts and articles (some in the establishment press) which back up the position I have stated above. I list 4 or 5 of them below for those who won't have time to do further research. Furthermore: Howard Phillips of Conservative Caucus published that his wife was called for a poll on Clinton, -- but the pollsters exited the phone call after she answered to one of the "lead in" questions/comments by stating that she was not "the lady head of the house", but her husband was head of the house. A caller on WLW radio (50,000 watt clear channel voice, Cincinnati, Ohio) on Saturday morning December 26 relayed that his sister in Georgia was called for a poll about Clinton, but hung up on when she said she had not voted for Clinton. These are anecdotal, but one would be stretching to dismiss them out of hand. Is any rational person supposed to believe that while 60% of the voting public voted against Clinton, that 70% now support him even after he's shown to be an adulterer, liar, perjurer . . .? Right. WHO ARE THE BIG MEDIA-paid POLLSTERS POLLING? The Big Media really blew its cover when it published on the day after the first wave of recent Iraq bombings -- that 70% of the people thought there was no connection between the imminent impeachment vote and the sudden Iraq bombings Right. Who in hades are these big media-paid pollsters polling? And, you are on a conspiracy research list, and you're putting out the bunk that Clinton is the one responsible for the economy? He's giving the Alan Greenspan crowd, The Ruling Elite, what they want, and Greenspan keeps the interest rates down. Also, the economy is only great for the Vultures on Wall Street, the average working man is groaning under
Re: [CTRL] Polls
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/30/98 12:42:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After having read "Votescam" by the Collier brothers (both are now dead) The book was a bombshell, but I somehow missed the fact that they BOTH are now dead? Do you have details? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Hey, Jerry! Polling is a "discipline"??? A discipline in high risk, high stakes deception maybe -- when practised by the Big 5 TV networks (FOX now aboard in that elite group). Also, your assertion that "the American people" "elected" Clinton twice is merely an act of faith on your part, as it has been made illegal in every state but New Hampshire to exersize citizen checks and balances on the computerized vote count. That's right, just like in tin horn dictatorships, or Communist countries, any American citizen who tries to double check the vote at the neighborhood precinct will be met with police power and eventually arrested if they insist. First to polling: Who are these polling "practitioners" who know the "ins and outs"?? Please read SuperPollsters: How They Measure and Manipulate Public Opinion in America by David W. Moore, who himself has been a pollster for 26 years. The book is endorsed by David Broder of the Washington Post, so it can hardly be dismissed by people like yourself, who believe that the polls are "scientific." Here is a sentence from the concluding paragraphs of the book: "There is still a tendency for media polls to create the illusion of public opinion, by asking forced-choice questions on some topics that are unfamiliar to most people. And public opinion about most topics is not as fully explored as it was for the Persian Gulf War, often resulting in misleading conclusions about its stability and precision." end of quote. And then the concluding sentence ends with, " . . . polling can, indeed, provide a continuous monitoring of the elusive pulse of democracy. More or less." This is the polling industry speaking. I charge without doubt that the polling by the 5 Big TV networks on Clinton is weighted and dishonest. Who are they polling? Exactly how is the poll conducted? It's permissable to question and scrutinize ANYTHING in the election process EXCEPT 1) How polls are done and who is polled; 2) how the votes are "counted" by the computer programs (I have yet to talk to one county official who signs election results as "true" who can even name the person who programmed the computer which counted the votes!!!) and yet, we are supposed to run our entire country based on these daily polls, and the computerized vote counting, -- and also on that complete hoax known as "exit polling" The ENTIRE argument of the sorry rabble of Clintonistes on the talk shows is -- THE POLLS and the COMPUTERIZED VOTE COUNTS of the last two Presidential elections. What a gullible nation we have become. I'm sorry to have to refer to my own website, but www.networkamerica.org contains much much more information on the unverifiable and riggable nature of exit polls and computerized voting, as well as numerous referrals to experts and articles (some in the establishment press) which back up the position I have stated above. I list 4 or 5 of them below for those who won't have time to do further research. Furthermore: Howard Phillips of Conservative Caucus published that his wife was called for a poll on Clinton, -- but the pollsters exited the phone call after she answered to one of the "lead in" questions/comments by stating that she was not "the lady head of the house", but her husband was head of the house. A caller on WLW radio (50,000 watt clear channel voice, Cincinnati, Ohio) on Saturday morning December 26 relayed that his sister in Georgia was called for a poll about Clinton, but hung up on when she said she had not voted for Clinton. These are anecdotal, but one would be stretching to dismiss them out of hand. Is any rational person supposed to believe that while 60% of the voting public voted against Clinton, that 70% now support him even after he's shown to be an adulterer, liar, perjurer . . .? Right. WHO ARE THE BIG MEDIA-paid POLLSTERS POLLING? The Big Media really blew its cover when it published on the day after the first wave of recent Iraq bombings -- that 70% of the people thought there was no connection between the imminent impeachment vote and the sudden Iraq bombings Right. Who in hades are these big media-paid pollsters polling? And, you are on a conspiracy research list, and you're putting out the bunk that Clinton is the one responsible for the economy? He's giving the Alan Greenspan crowd, The Ruling Elite, what they want, and Greenspan keeps the interest rates down. Also, the economy is only great for the Vultures on Wall Street, the average working man is groaning under unnecessary debt artificially created by even the "low" interest rates we have, and the ungodly tax burden. Back to Polls, -- It's now come out that Congressional mail in most offices is running 2 to 1 FOR impeachment/removal! Every "call in" poll from AOL to talk show stations which I've heard about -- reports a 2 to 1 margin for impeachment/removal. Oh, I forgot, these polls are "unscientific." I say they are MORE scientific than the BIg Media Polls because at least
Re: [CTRL] Polls
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/28/98 7:30:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you do the math, the percentage of the actual population of the United States represented in the polls works out to .027%. That doesn't sound very "representative" to me! Statistical samplig, especially when stratified, can yield highly accurate results from a relatively small number of respondents. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/28/98 11:53:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: routinely garner 75 to 85 percent support. Even regular polls show a hardcore of one-third of the public that wants to see Clinton ousted immediately. Add to that those who don't answer, those who don't reveal the truth, and those for whom the entire political game is utterly sickening, and you've reached the two-thirds mark and then some. When are you Clinton haters going to stop weaseling about Clinton's popularity and face the fact that the voters have elected him twice, think he is terrific for the economy and conducts foreign policy much better than his recent predecessors? All your awkward rationalizing does not persuade. Polling has become an important statistical discipline, the practitioners know the ins and outs. You simply don't want to know the facts but the Republicans will pay the price in 2000. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- n are you Clinton haters going to stop weaseling about Clinton's popularity and face the fact that the voters have elected him twice, think he is terrific for the economy and conducts foreign policy much better than his recent predecessors? All your awkward rationalizing does not persuade. Polling has become an important statistical discipline, the practitioners know the ins and outs. You simply don't want to know the facts but the Republicans will pay the price in 2000. Jerry Ohmygosh! You're one of them, they've got you too!I like the way one of the subscribers on this list put it (Edward?)... "Eat crap, 50,000,000 flies can't be wrong." Let's just say that these polls are accurate and the president really is popular...Wow that's great, our president is popular, just what America has been waiting for, a popular president. Popularity after all IS everything! Thanks for clearing that up Jerry, maybe that could be the topic of your next show... Jamie DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/28/98 4:18:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When are you Clinton haters going to stop weaseling about Clinton's popularity and face the fact that the voters have elected him twice, think he is terrific for the economy and conducts foreign policy much better than his recent predecessors? All your awkward rationalizing does not persuade. Polling has become an important statistical discipline, the practitioners know the ins and outs. You simply don't want to know the facts but the Republicans will pay the price in 2000. Jerry Well, I'm sure we will all agree that Clinton is a popular man and he was elected to office twice, and I must say I have heard more than one person say that they hated him because he lied but if they could they would vote him back into office yet again because they "like" him so much and he has done so much good for our country. We will all agree to this if you Clinton suck up sycophants will just admit that he is a traitor, that he has committed treason, that he is a slime, that he is a greedy bastard who sold out his country's national security to the Chinese for a little bit of money, that he is or was involved in drug smuggling out of Mena, that he was in bed with Bush at least for a while, that he sold out labor with his great support for GATT and NAFTA, and that much of everything else that he did is just a smokescreen for 6 years of not a lot. Let's not forget the great respect that our foreign policy garners around the world, Madeline Albright is such a good example of US international expertise isn't she? William Christopher another great example of US foreign policy know how, right? MIND YOU I'm NOT saying that I prefer Bush or any of his ilk either because he is much MORE of a rat and weasel than Clinton, and was able to get away with it all to boot, which makes me "hate" him more for it. Your sycophantic support is just as sickening as anything you attribute to the "horrible" republicans and their "evil" "partisan" attacks against this "goodly" and "saintly" man who is just trying to do his best for our nation. PLEASE GIVE US ALL A BREAK!? Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- "A.C. Szul" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wager that if we were to ask everyone on this list --about 400 plus-- and folks on the other lists (MC, REPUB, RUSH, XPOLT, etc.) you'll find not one person who has been "polled" or "interviewed" by Gallup or any of its sister polling organizations. Hey, Mr. Andy Kohut, polling guru, who are you calling anyway?! snip I've been polled by both Gallup and Roper--not in the immediate past, granted, but within the last year. People, like it or not, statistical sampling *does* work. Go ask a business major at your local college. The sample may seem small, but it really does indicate how the entire population feels. Just because the poll results don't jibe with your own preferences doesn't invalidate the poll. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- I wager that if we were to ask everyone on this list --about 400 plus-- and folks on the other lists (MC, REPUB, RUSH, XPOLT, etc.) you'll find not one person who has been "polled" or "interviewed" by Gallup or any of its sister polling organizations. Hey, Mr. Andy Kohut, polling guru, who are you calling anyway?! snip I've been polled by both Gallup and Roper--not in the immediate past, granted, but within the last year. People, like it or not, statistical sampling *does* work. Go ask a business major at your local college. The sample may seem small, but it really does indicate how the entire population feels. Just because the poll results don't jibe with your own preferences doesn't invalidate the poll. Bob If these polls are accurate then it's not a new president we need... It's a new country... It's funny yet frustrating how the people that have less interest in what actually is going on are the ones who have the power to vote in what they desire because of the simple fact that the ignorant outnumber the truth seekers. I don't think when they formed the majority rule law, they didn't expect the majority to blinded like they are now. Jamie DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- What makes me so damn mad about these polls is the first one that came out that put Klinton up to 72% was from 519 people polled with a 4.5% error margin and they lead all the people on like they polled everyone in america. Michael Stopforth, Jamie wrote: -Caveat Lector- Great post Edward! This whole poll thing gets to me. I like the way J.C. Watts put it in his speech Saturday morning... If this nation was a nation governed by polls, women may still not have voting rights and we would still have slavery. Jamie All: First, let me say that I do not dispute the results of these latest polls regarding Clinton. I do, however have questions regarding the general stock we Americans put in them: 1. At what time of day are these polls taken and what segment of the population isnormally polled the most: those at home, work or school? a. What portion of the United States is represented with respect to these polls? b. Is there any particular geographical location within the United States that is polled more than others? 2. Do any of the above factors have any influence on the outcome of polls? 3. If so, can these factors be manipulated to prove the argument of one side or another on any particular issue? 4. Why, then, should Americans trust polls? I, for instance, could argue that most Americans were FOR the impeachment of Clinton on the basis of the results of regional polls taken by one of the local TV stations, which typically come out in favor of his impeachment by a margin of two to one (WXIA TV; Atlanta, GA as of 12-20-98). 5. If, as I contend, polls are intrinsically untrustworthy, why do we rely on them almost exclusively as a reflection of the true "pulse" of the nation? Edward []===[] "Go for goats, Bill. They don't talk." Yasser Arafat http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet. Subscribe to Reality Pump: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 []===[] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] Polls?
-Caveat Lector- I wager that if we were to ask everyone on this list --about 400 plus-- and folks on the other lists (MC, REPUB, RUSH, XPOLT, etc.) you'll find not one person who has been "polled" or "interviewed" by Gallup or any of its sister polling organizations. Hey, Mr. Andy Kohut, polling guru, who are you calling anyway?! MShrum wrote: -Caveat Lector- What makes me so damn mad about these polls is the first one that came out that put Klinton up to 72% was from 519 people polled with a 4.5% error margin and they lead all the people on like they polled everyone in america. Michael m --snip It's a conspiracy right under our nose. Regards, -A http://www.erols.com/mack97 "The sharpest tool in the shed." -- anonymous DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
