Re: [CTRL] Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess Diana

2000-10-08 Thread Mark McHugh

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craig wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> dear ole
>
> i strongly recommend you read "the illuminatus trilogy" by r.a. wilson
> before icke does any more damage to your perceptions.
>
> love
> craig
>


Amen!  That and "Prometheus Rising".


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2000-10-08 Thread Ole Gerstrøm

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Dear Craig,

I have read Wilson, and I have read Icke. But I prefer the latter.

Should David Icke damage my perceptions? He who is the most brilliant researcher? I 
dont get your point.

But I could think of many, who would pay millions to harm his reputation. If you 
think, he is not presenting facts, why dont you give us your evidence?

Love, Ole Gerstrom, Copenhagen, Denmark

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From: craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess Diana


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> dear ole
>
> i strongly recommend you read "the illuminatus trilogy" by r.a. wilson
> before icke does any more damage to your perceptions.
>
> love
> craig
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ole Gerstrøm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 10:19 AM
> Subject: [CTRL] Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess Diana
>
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > Dear June,
> >
> > No, occultisme is not the same as satanisme. But the ruling circles of
> this planet are occult and satanic as documented by David Icke in "The
> Biggest Secret." I strongly recommend you read that book. It will answer
> your many questions much better than I can do.
> >
> > But I will mention, that satanisme as mentioned here, includes black mass
> at midnight with human sacrifice.
> >
> > Love, Ole Gerstrom, Denmark
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Ynr Chyldz Wyld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:02 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess
> Diana
> >
> >
> > > -Caveat Lector-
> > >
> > > From: "Ole Gerstrøm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess Diana
> > >
> > > And what, pray tell, is 'satanic' about any of the supposed symbols?
> > >
> > > >The city of Paris was founded in the sixth century AD by
> > > >the Sicambrian Franks, an aryan race of middle-eastern
> > > >extraction. They were keen followers of occult pracices,
> > >
> > > If true, what exactly in their practice do you construe as 'satanic'?
> > >
> > > Or are you implying you equate ANYTHING labeled 'occult' as the
> equivalent of 'satanic'?
> > >
> > > If so, you may be surprised to know that the term 'occult' is used every
> day in hospitals and medical
> > > facilities around the world.
> > >
> > > So are you going to tell us that every hospital, and that every doctor
> and nurse, is 'satanic'?
> > >
> > >
> > > >and ritual and ceremonial magic was integral to their daily life.
> > >
> > > And so?  That doesn't mean they were satanists.
> > >
> > >
> > > >The central religious deity the Franks worshipped was the
> > > >Moon Goddess known to the Romans as Diana, (aka Artemis,
> > > >Isis, and others).
> > >
> > > And what is 'satanic' regarding any of the above?
> > >
> > >
> > > >The Franks built an underground chamber for the worship of
> > > >Diana outside the Isle-de-la-Cite. Sacrifices to the Moon
> > > >Goddess were made here,
> > >
> > > If true, then they were Dianic, not Satanic...
> > >
> > >
> > > >Allegedly a "symbol of Liberty", and a memorial to French
> > > >servicemen who died in the Second World War, the monument
> > > >consists of a torch over a black five-pointed star. Those
> > > >familiar with the occult may be aware that this is not a
> > > >symbol much associated with liberty.
> > >
> > > Perhaps not in the strictest sense...but it is definitely NOT
> 'satanic'...unless you are going to tell us the
> > > fifty stars on the U.S. flag are also 'satanic'...
> > >
> > > The 5-pointed pentagram IS utilized by non-satanic pagans of various
> flavors when working a 'magic
> > > circle'...it is a symbol of power and of protection from negative and
> evil influences...
> > >
> > > Satanists -- who are nothing more than Roman Catholics turning their
> religion inside out and upside down --
> > > usurped the symbol, utilizing a reversed pentagr

Re: [CTRL] Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess Diana

2000-10-08 Thread craig

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dear ole

i strongly recommend you read "the illuminatus trilogy" by r.a. wilson
before icke does any more damage to your perceptions.

love
craig

- Original Message -
From: "Ole Gerstrøm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 10:19 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess Diana


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Dear June,
>
> No, occultisme is not the same as satanisme. But the ruling circles of
this planet are occult and satanic as documented by David Icke in "The
Biggest Secret." I strongly recommend you read that book. It will answer
your many questions much better than I can do.
>
> But I will mention, that satanisme as mentioned here, includes black mass
at midnight with human sacrifice.
>
> Love, Ole Gerstrom, Denmark
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Ynr Chyldz Wyld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess
Diana
>
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > From: "Ole Gerstrøm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess Diana
> >
> > And what, pray tell, is 'satanic' about any of the supposed symbols?
> >
> > >The city of Paris was founded in the sixth century AD by
> > >the Sicambrian Franks, an aryan race of middle-eastern
> > >extraction. They were keen followers of occult pracices,
> >
> > If true, what exactly in their practice do you construe as 'satanic'?
> >
> > Or are you implying you equate ANYTHING labeled 'occult' as the
equivalent of 'satanic'?
> >
> > If so, you may be surprised to know that the term 'occult' is used every
day in hospitals and medical
> > facilities around the world.
> >
> > So are you going to tell us that every hospital, and that every doctor
and nurse, is 'satanic'?
> >
> >
> > >and ritual and ceremonial magic was integral to their daily life.
> >
> > And so?  That doesn't mean they were satanists.
> >
> >
> > >The central religious deity the Franks worshipped was the
> > >Moon Goddess known to the Romans as Diana, (aka Artemis,
> > >Isis, and others).
> >
> > And what is 'satanic' regarding any of the above?
> >
> >
> > >The Franks built an underground chamber for the worship of
> > >Diana outside the Isle-de-la-Cite. Sacrifices to the Moon
> > >Goddess were made here,
> >
> > If true, then they were Dianic, not Satanic...
> >
> >
> > >Allegedly a "symbol of Liberty", and a memorial to French
> > >servicemen who died in the Second World War, the monument
> > >consists of a torch over a black five-pointed star. Those
> > >familiar with the occult may be aware that this is not a
> > >symbol much associated with liberty.
> >
> > Perhaps not in the strictest sense...but it is definitely NOT
'satanic'...unless you are going to tell us the
> > fifty stars on the U.S. flag are also 'satanic'...
> >
> > The 5-pointed pentagram IS utilized by non-satanic pagans of various
flavors when working a 'magic
> > circle'...it is a symbol of power and of protection from negative and
evil influences...
> >
> > Satanists -- who are nothing more than Roman Catholics turning their
religion inside out and upside down --
> > usurped the symbol, utilizing a reversed pentagram as a sign to welcome
negative and evil forces...
> >
> > But just as the cross has been in use long before Christianity usurped
it, just as the swastika was in long
> > use before the German National Socialists adopted a reversed swastika as
their national symbol, so too with
> > the symbol of a 5-pointed star long antiquates the modern use by modern
satanists...
> >
> >
> > >The Moon Goddess is frequently said to be as female energy form
> >
> > And the female energy form equates to 'satanism'how?
> >
> >
> > >The latter, Hecate, the Queen of the Underworld, is very heavily
> > >associated with occult practices and ritual sacrifice.
> >
> > True.  But it has naught to do with satanism.  Hecate predates satanism
by centuries.
> >
> >
> > >"Hecate's Day" is August 13th,
> >
> > Your source for this is?
> >
> >
> > >but Satanic rituals, (black as opposed to white magic), to
> > >Hecate are better carrie

[CTRL] Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess Diana

2000-10-08 Thread Ole Gerstrøm

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Dear June,

No, occultisme is not the same as satanisme. But the ruling circles of this planet are 
occult and satanic as documented by David Icke in "The Biggest Secret." I strongly 
recommend you read that book. It will answer your many questions much better than I 
can do.

But I will mention, that satanisme as mentioned here, includes black mass at midnight 
with human sacrifice.

Love, Ole Gerstrom, Denmark

- Original Message -
From: Ynr Chyldz Wyld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess Diana


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> From: "Ole Gerstrøm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess Diana
>
> And what, pray tell, is 'satanic' about any of the supposed symbols?
>
> >The city of Paris was founded in the sixth century AD by
> >the Sicambrian Franks, an aryan race of middle-eastern
> >extraction. They were keen followers of occult pracices,
>
> If true, what exactly in their practice do you construe as 'satanic'?
>
> Or are you implying you equate ANYTHING labeled 'occult' as the equivalent of 
>'satanic'?
>
> If so, you may be surprised to know that the term 'occult' is used every day in 
>hospitals and medical
> facilities around the world.
>
> So are you going to tell us that every hospital, and that every doctor and nurse, is 
>'satanic'?
>
>
> >and ritual and ceremonial magic was integral to their daily life.
>
> And so?  That doesn't mean they were satanists.
>
>
> >The central religious deity the Franks worshipped was the
> >Moon Goddess known to the Romans as Diana, (aka Artemis,
> >Isis, and others).
>
> And what is 'satanic' regarding any of the above?
>
>
> >The Franks built an underground chamber for the worship of
> >Diana outside the Isle-de-la-Cite. Sacrifices to the Moon
> >Goddess were made here,
>
> If true, then they were Dianic, not Satanic...
>
>
> >Allegedly a "symbol of Liberty", and a memorial to French
> >servicemen who died in the Second World War, the monument
> >consists of a torch over a black five-pointed star. Those
> >familiar with the occult may be aware that this is not a
> >symbol much associated with liberty.
>
> Perhaps not in the strictest sense...but it is definitely NOT 'satanic'...unless you 
>are going to tell us the
> fifty stars on the U.S. flag are also 'satanic'...
>
> The 5-pointed pentagram IS utilized by non-satanic pagans of various flavors when 
>working a 'magic
> circle'...it is a symbol of power and of protection from negative and evil 
>influences...
>
> Satanists -- who are nothing more than Roman Catholics turning their religion inside 
>out and upside down --
> usurped the symbol, utilizing a reversed pentagram as a sign to welcome negative and 
>evil forces...
>
> But just as the cross has been in use long before Christianity usurped it, just as 
>the swastika was in long
> use before the German National Socialists adopted a reversed swastika as their 
>national symbol, so too with
> the symbol of a 5-pointed star long antiquates the modern use by modern satanists...
>
>
> >The Moon Goddess is frequently said to be as female energy form
>
> And the female energy form equates to 'satanism'how?
>
>
> >The latter, Hecate, the Queen of the Underworld, is very heavily
> >associated with occult practices and ritual sacrifice.
>
> True.  But it has naught to do with satanism.  Hecate predates satanism by centuries.
>
>
> >"Hecate's Day" is August 13th,
>
> Your source for this is?
>
>
> >but Satanic rituals, (black as opposed to white magic), to
> >Hecate are better carried out on the 31st, reversal of numerals
> >popular in Satanism.
>
> And again, your source for this is...?
>
>
> >The underlying contention being that there exists a Satanic
> >group located at the extreme apex of our society, practising
> >ritual magic.
>
> We're still waiting for any proof that any of this, even if true, has aught to do 
>with satanism.
>
> All the practices you mention, except human sacrafice, are common practices of any 
>number of pagan and wiccan
> groups...so are you claiming that these groups are the same as satanists?
>
>
> June
>
> http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org
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Re: [CTRL] Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess Diana

2000-10-07 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

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From: "Ole Gerstrøm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess Diana

And what, pray tell, is 'satanic' about any of the supposed symbols?

>The city of Paris was founded in the sixth century AD by
>the Sicambrian Franks, an aryan race of middle-eastern
>extraction. They were keen followers of occult pracices,

If true, what exactly in their practice do you construe as 'satanic'?

Or are you implying you equate ANYTHING labeled 'occult' as the equivalent of 
'satanic'?

If so, you may be surprised to know that the term 'occult' is used every day in 
hospitals and medical
facilities around the world.

So are you going to tell us that every hospital, and that every doctor and nurse, is 
'satanic'?


>and ritual and ceremonial magic was integral to their daily life.

And so?  That doesn't mean they were satanists.


>The central religious deity the Franks worshipped was the
>Moon Goddess known to the Romans as Diana, (aka Artemis,
>Isis, and others).

And what is 'satanic' regarding any of the above?


>The Franks built an underground chamber for the worship of
>Diana outside the Isle-de-la-Cite. Sacrifices to the Moon
>Goddess were made here,

If true, then they were Dianic, not Satanic...


>Allegedly a "symbol of Liberty", and a memorial to French
>servicemen who died in the Second World War, the monument
>consists of a torch over a black five-pointed star. Those
>familiar with the occult may be aware that this is not a
>symbol much associated with liberty.

Perhaps not in the strictest sense...but it is definitely NOT 'satanic'...unless you 
are going to tell us the
fifty stars on the U.S. flag are also 'satanic'...

The 5-pointed pentagram IS utilized by non-satanic pagans of various flavors when 
working a 'magic
circle'...it is a symbol of power and of protection from negative and evil 
influences...

Satanists -- who are nothing more than Roman Catholics turning their religion inside 
out and upside down --
usurped the symbol, utilizing a reversed pentagram as a sign to welcome negative and 
evil forces...

But just as the cross has been in use long before Christianity usurped it, just as the 
swastika was in long
use before the German National Socialists adopted a reversed swastika as their 
national symbol, so too with
the symbol of a 5-pointed star long antiquates the modern use by modern satanists...


>The Moon Goddess is frequently said to be as female energy form

And the female energy form equates to 'satanism'how?


>The latter, Hecate, the Queen of the Underworld, is very heavily
>associated with occult practices and ritual sacrifice.

True.  But it has naught to do with satanism.  Hecate predates satanism by centuries.


>"Hecate's Day" is August 13th,

Your source for this is?


>but Satanic rituals, (black as opposed to white magic), to
>Hecate are better carried out on the 31st, reversal of numerals
>popular in Satanism.

And again, your source for this is...?


>The underlying contention being that there exists a Satanic
>group located at the extreme apex of our society, practising
>ritual magic.

We're still waiting for any proof that any of this, even if true, has aught to do with 
satanism.

All the practices you mention, except human sacrafice, are common practices of any 
number of pagan and wiccan
groups...so are you claiming that these groups are the same as satanists?


June

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[CTRL] Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess Diana

2000-10-07 Thread Ole Gerstrøm





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Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess Diana
 
(I wrote this piece principally from the material presented in David Icke's 
book "The Biggest Secret". If anyone has more details or insights please mail me 
at [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Thanks. 
Nick)
Diana's death following a car accident in the Pont de l'Alma tunnel, in the 
early morning of August 31st 1997 has raised a few eyebrows among occult groups 
worldwide. 
The following has been noted: 
The city of Paris was founded in the sixth century AD by the Sicambrian 
Franks, an aryan race of middle-eastern extraction. They were keen followers of 
occult pracices, and ritual and ceremonial magic was integral to their daily 
life. They settled first on the island now known as the Isle-de-la-Cite - a 
place they believed was a major power vortex on the Earth's surface, marked 
today by the Notre Dame Cathedral, built by the Templars. 
The central religious deity the Franks worshipped was the Moon Goddess known 
to the Romans as Diana, (aka Artemis, Isis, and others). 
The Franks built an underground chamber for the worship of Diana outside the 
Isle-de-la-Cite. Sacrifices to the Moon Goddess were made here, and the chamber 
was also used for the settling of certain disputes. The present day location of 
this underground chamber is...The Pont de l'Alma tunnel. 
Allusion to this is made in the name, Al-mah meaning the Moon Goddess in the 
ancient language of the Franks. Furthermore, a bizarre monument was placed 
outside the tunnel's entrance in the mid-1980's by the Parisian government. 
Allegedly a "symbol of Liberty", and a memorial to French servicemen who died in 
the Second World War, the monument consists of a torch over a black five-pointed 
star. Those familiar with the occult may be aware that this is not a symbol much 
associated with liberty. 
The Pont and Place de l'Alma are also the sites of major crossroads in the 
Parisian street system. 
The Moon Goddess is frequently said to be as female energy form composed of 
three aspects, Diana, Luna and Hecate. These represent the energy as manifest on 
Earth, Heaven and the Underworld. 
The latter, Hecate, the Queen of the Underworld, is very heavily associated 
with occult practices and ritual sacrifice. "Hecate's Day" is August 13th, but 
Satanic rituals, (black as opposed to white magic), to Hecate are better carried 
out on the 31st, reversal of numerals popular in Satanism. 
Sacrifices to Hecate are also invariably carried out at crossroads, places 
symbolic of the meeting of ley lines. 
Add these observations to the facts that Diana apparently bled to death 
at the scene of the crash, (absolutely fundamental to such a sacrifice), despite 
the rapid presence of medics; that the police radio system went off-air for 
twenty minutes at the time of the accident; that the surveillance camera system 
monitoring the route the Mercedes took malfuncioned the night of the crash; and 
that the car crashed into the 13th pillar in the tunnel, (the number 13, along 
with 33, are the two most powerful numbers in Western occultism) and you have a 
pretty good conspiracy theory. 
The underlying contention being that there exists a Satanic group located at 
the extreme apex of our society, practising ritual magic. 
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