Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB
-Caveat Lector- This is a site re Paleoclimate data concerning the flood. It has a great deal of info and supportive data http://www.stanford.edu/~meehan/donnelly/paleo2.html The link can be accessed via my pole shift links page at http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/links Andrew, if you feel inclined to check it out, then perhaps you could suuggest a few more links. Thanks Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB -Caveat Lector- I have read a lot of material on catastrophism since I first encountered *The HAB Theory* in 1976, and there is considerable evidence that *something* happened within the lifetime of the human race that completely disrupted life on this planet. But it demands serious scholarly attention, hi, the following comments fit in exactly with the HAB theory I'm afraid. The HAB theory says that disaster by plate reshuffle happens every 7500 years or so Scientists have never found Noah or his ark, but they believe in his flood. It happened about 7,600 years ago, when the Mediterranean Sea, swollen by melted glaciers, breached a natural dam separating it from the freshwater lake known today as the Black Sea. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-09/26/195l-092699-idx.html COMPELLING evidence that there was a Great Flood, as told in the Old Testament story of Noah's Ark, has been found far below the waters of the Black Sea by an American expedition. Underwater surveyors, led by Robert Ballard, the renowned oceanographer who found the Titanic and other sunken ships of the 20th century, have discovered an ancient coastline at a depth of 450ft. http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/timfgnusa02001.html?999 A HREF="http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/timfgnusa02001.html?999"C li ck here: The Times: World News:Evidence of Great Flood is found Story of Noah's Ark backed by coastline discovery/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB
-Caveat Lector- Peter, this is excellent! This is precisely the kind of material I have been looking for. -Original Message- From: earthman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 3:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB -Caveat Lector- This is a site re Paleoclimate data concerning the flood. It has a great deal of info and supportive data http://www.stanford.edu/~meehan/donnelly/paleo2.html The link can be accessed via my pole shift links page at http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/links Andrew, if you feel inclined to check it out, then perhaps you could suuggest a few more links. Thanks Peter DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB
-Caveat Lector- Unfortunately, Andrew, geological history is filled with the marks and scars of catastrophes that *don't* fit the HAB Theory. The flooding of the Black Sea is fascinating; it has major implications for archaeology, especially for the quest to understand the origins of the Indo-European-speaking peoples. It may indeed be one (I emphasize *one*) of the sources of the biblical Flood story. There are lots of other floods and related events, however, which don't fit so neatly into that 7500-year cycle, such as the eruption of Thera which spelled the doom of Minoan civilization and probably inspired the legend of Atlantis; or the flooding of the Mediterranean Basin at 2+ million years B.P., when the Gibraltar dam collapsed. I repeat what I said in my earlier post: what we need in this discussion is hard archaeological and palaeontological data which has undergone the rigorous peer-review process. There is mystery and wonder enough in the history of this planet without adding our own speculations to the mix... Please remember, too, that I always try to remain open to unconventional, off-the-wall ideas. A good many of today's scientific orthodoxies, such as plate tectonics, started out as off-the-wall ideas, after all. When I challenge someone's statements, it's in an effort to force more rigorous, disciplined thinking than is often exhibited. Truth is often found in very strange places by very strange people. All I ask is that you be as cautious and precise in your descriptions of that very weird truth as possible. As J.B.S. Haldane remarked, "The universe is not only queerer than we know, it is queerer than we *can* know." -Original Message- From: Andrew Hennessey [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 10:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB snip hi, the following comments fit in exactly with the HAB theory I'm afraid. The HAB theory says that disaster by plate reshuffle happens every 7500 years or so Scientists have never found Noah or his ark, but they believe in his flood. It happened about 7,600 years ago, when the Mediterranean Sea, swollen by melted glaciers, breached a natural dam separating it from the freshwater lake known today as the Black Sea. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-09/26/195l-092699-idx.ht ml COMPELLING evidence that there was a Great Flood, as told in the Old Testament story of Noah's Ark, has been found far below the waters of the Black Sea by an American expedition. Underwater surveyors, led by Robert Ballard, the renowned oceanographer who found the Titanic and other sunken ships of the 20th century, have discovered an ancient coastline at a depth of 450ft. http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/timfgnusa02001.html?999 snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones
-Caveat Lector- Andrew, I would prefer articles from mainline, peer-review journals. Pictures can be, and often are, faked or doctored. I know that just because something appears in a professional journal is no reason to automatically accept it, but it demands more serious attention than anything I have seen on the HAB theory, the Dropa stones, etc. Please note that I am not automatically ruling out a pole shift or other global catastrophe in the geologically recent past. I have read a lot of material on catastrophism since I first encountered *The HAB Theory* in 1976, and there is considerable evidence that *something* happened within the lifetime of the human race that completely disrupted life on this planet. But it demands serious scholarly attention, not just reports in fringe-science magazines and speculative novels, if the truth is really to be arrived at. -Original Message- From: Andrew Hennessey [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 7:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones -Caveat Lector- Eckert offers no supporting evidence for his "ancient mysteries," and lacking such evidence I have to consider the book to be pure science fiction. I can send you a jpeg of the dropa stones if you wish. Andrew DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB
-Caveat Lector- I have read a lot of material on catastrophism since I first encountered *The HAB Theory* in 1976, and there is considerable evidence that *something* happened within the lifetime of the human race that completely disrupted life on this planet. But it demands serious scholarly attention, hi, the following comments fit in exactly with the HAB theory I'm afraid. The HAB theory says that disaster by plate reshuffle happens every 7500 years or so Scientists have never found Noah or his ark, but they believe in his flood. It happened about 7,600 years ago, when the Mediterranean Sea, swollen by melted glaciers, breached a natural dam separating it from the freshwater lake known today as the Black Sea. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-09/26/195l-092699-idx.html COMPELLING evidence that there was a Great Flood, as told in the Old Testament story of Noah's Ark, has been found far below the waters of the Black Sea by an American expedition. Underwater surveyors, led by Robert Ballard, the renowned oceanographer who found the Titanic and other sunken ships of the 20th century, have discovered an ancient coastline at a depth of 450ft. http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/timfgnusa02001.html?999 A HREF="http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/timfgnusa02001.html?999"C li ck here: The Times: World News:Evidence of Great Flood is found Story of Noah's Ark backed by coastline discovery/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones
-Caveat Lector- Every time I see this story turning up, it traces back NO FURTHER than Allan Eckert's novel *The HAB Theory*. IMHO, it classifies as an Internet myth at this point. The novel is indeed "interesting fiction;" it was my first contact with pole shift hypotheses. However, Eckert offers no supporting evidence for his "ancient mysteries," and lacking such evidence I have to consider the book to be pure science fiction. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 11:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones -Caveat Lector- Interesting archeology information, if true. Interesting fiction if not. Take a look and judge for yourself. This is forwarded from a newsgroup. Subject: The Dropa Stones From: Reverend Chupacabra A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Thu, 23 September 1999 02:59 AM EDT Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has this story been debunked, dehoaxed, clarified, expanded upon, ignored, verified, updated, or what? snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones
-Caveat Lector- Robert, My web page (link below)is devoted to the pole shift..I don't know whether you have checked out the 2 links there re dropa but here they are.. First time on pole shift huh...well you better have a closer look I think.. Did you read who Eckhert is and what the 'fictional' work was based on...Ah I don't think Einstein was into fiction..do you?? http://www.in-search-of.com/frames/stonedisk/stonedisk_nf.shtml http://www.nii.net/~obie/dropa.htm Have you read the book the Hab Theory?.. then how can you call it science fiction...shame on you We are on the eve of the next shift All Aboard Peter PS all the pictures on my site have miraculously disappeared so I will have to get them up again.. We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: Tatman, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones -Caveat Lector- Every time I see this story turning up, it traces back NO FURTHER than Allan Eckert's novel *The HAB Theory*. IMHO, it classifies as an Internet myth at this point. The novel is indeed "interesting fiction;" it was my first contact with pole shift hypotheses. However, Eckert offers no supporting evidence for his "ancient mysteries," and lacking such evidence I have to consider the book to be pure science fiction. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 11:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones -Caveat Lector- Interesting archeology information, if true. Interesting fiction if not. Take a look and judge for yourself. This is forwarded from a newsgroup. Subject: The Dropa Stones From: Reverend Chupacabra A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Thu, 23 September 1999 02:59 AM EDT Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has this story been debunked, dehoaxed, clarified, expanded upon, ignored, verified, updated, or what? snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones
-Caveat Lector- Eckert offers no supporting evidence for his "ancient mysteries," and lacking such evidence I have to consider the book to be pure science fiction. I can send you a jpeg of the dropa stones if you wish. Andrew DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones
-Caveat Lector- They are true.. there is a couple of sites on my links page about them Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 3:13 PM Subject: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones -Caveat Lector- Interesting archeology information, if true. Interesting fiction if not. Take a look and judge for yourself. This is forwarded from a newsgroup. Subject: The Dropa Stones From: Reverend Chupacabra A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Thu, 23 September 1999 02:59 AM EDT Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has this story been debunked, dehoaxed, clarified, expanded upon, ignored, verified, updated, or what? ___ The Dropa Stones A HREF="http://paranormal.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa060198.htm"http://par an ormal.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa060198.htm/A Records of Past Civilizations - A HREF="http://www.habtheory.com/111.htm"http://www.habtheory.com/111.htm/A Such records have indeed been found ... in China. These were contained in a large number of peculiar stone disks discovered in some underground repositories in the Himalayas near the border of Tibet. The discovery of the disks was made in 1938 by Professor Chi Pu Tei, an archeologist who was leading students on an expedition into the Bayan Kara Ula Mountains in the then-disputed frontier territory of Tibet and China. Professor Chi Pu Tei and his students discovered what was first described as a series of caves, but later admitted to be a complex system of artificial tunnels and underground storerooms. These tunnels were perfectly squared and the walls, ceilings and floors were highly glazed, as if the passages and rooms were carved by a device emitting heat of such intensity that it simply melted its way into the mountains. The archeological group followed some of these passages and encountered larger chambers in which numerous un-described implements were discovered. The implements evidently differed from one chamber to another, but one item was found in common in each of the chambers -- the stone disks mentioned earlier. In each chamber, they were found in the same position -- on a smooth cube of rock, glazed just as the tunnels were, with anywhere from seven to 20 of the disks neatly stacked on top. Each disk was 22.7 cm (9 inches) in diameter and 2 cm (3/4 inch) thick. Each disk also had a perfectly circular 2 cm hole in the exact center. The outside edges were regularly indented all the way around, almost like the fluting on a pie crust. Each disk also had a twin groove which began at the center hole and gradually moved in an expanding counterclockwise spiral to the outer rim. The individual disks thus bore a certain similarity to the phonograph records of today. All of the disks -- a total of 716 -- were removed and taken for study to the Peking Academy of Prehistory. Nothing was heard about this discovery by Western scientists for the next 27 years. During that period, the disks were being studied intensively by Professor Tsum Um Nui. The Bayan Kara Ula Mountains area is one of the most isolated and least known areas on Earth today. The nearest city of any consequence is Lhasa, Tibet, about 400 miles to the south through virtually impassable terrain. It is an area presently inhabited by two tribes of very unusual people. The tribes call themselves Dropa and Han, and simply do not fit into any racial category established by anthropologists. For one thing, they are both of pygmy stature. The tallest and shortest adults have measured 4' 7" and 3'6" respectively, but the average height is 4'2". They are yellow-skinned. Their heads are disproportionately large and sparsely haired, and their eyes are large but not Oriental in aspect, with pale bluish irises. Their features are very nicely formed, most nearly approximating Caucasian, and their bodies are extremely thin and delicate. Adult weight is estimated to average about 38 to 52 pounds. The disks underwent extensive study by Professor Tsum Um Nui, interrupted at times by war. It took him and his coworkers only a short time to discover that the spiral grooves were not sound tracks but, rather, an incredibly ancient writing inscribed in some unknown way and very nearly microscopic in size. The disks were determined to be no less than 3,000 or 4,000 years old at the youngest, and more likely anywhere from 8,000 to 12,000 years old. This would make them the oldest known form of writing in the world. Deciphering was incredibly difficult. It took 24 years -- until 1962 -- before Professor Nui and a young colleague found the key and began deciphering=2E The deciphered spiral text of the stones, even tho
[CTRL] The Dropa Stones
-Caveat Lector- Interesting archeology information, if true. Interesting fiction if not. Take a look and judge for yourself. This is forwarded from a newsgroup. Subject: The Dropa Stones From: Reverend Chupacabra A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Thu, 23 September 1999 02:59 AM EDT Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has this story been debunked, dehoaxed, clarified, expanded upon, ignored, verified, updated, or what? ___ The Dropa Stones A HREF="http://paranormal.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa060198.htm"http://paran ormal.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa060198.htm/A Records of Past Civilizations - A HREF="http://www.habtheory.com/111.htm"http://www.habtheory.com/111.htm/A Such records have indeed been found ... in China. These were contained in a large number of peculiar stone disks discovered in some underground repositories in the Himalayas near the border of Tibet. The discovery of the disks was made in 1938 by Professor Chi Pu Tei, an archeologist who was leading students on an expedition into the Bayan Kara Ula Mountains in the then-disputed frontier territory of Tibet and China. Professor Chi Pu Tei and his students discovered what was first described as a series of caves, but later admitted to be a complex system of artificial tunnels and underground storerooms. These tunnels were perfectly squared and the walls, ceilings and floors were highly glazed, as if the passages and rooms were carved by a device emitting heat of such intensity that it simply melted its way into the mountains. The archeological group followed some of these passages and encountered larger chambers in which numerous un-described implements were discovered. The implements evidently differed from one chamber to another, but one item was found in common in each of the chambers -- the stone disks mentioned earlier. In each chamber, they were found in the same position -- on a smooth cube of rock, glazed just as the tunnels were, with anywhere from seven to 20 of the disks neatly stacked on top. Each disk was 22.7 cm (9 inches) in diameter and 2 cm (3/4 inch) thick. Each disk also had a perfectly circular 2 cm hole in the exact center. The outside edges were regularly indented all the way around, almost like the fluting on a pie crust. Each disk also had a twin groove which began at the center hole and gradually moved in an expanding counterclockwise spiral to the outer rim. The individual disks thus bore a certain similarity to the phonograph records of today. All of the disks -- a total of 716 -- were removed and taken for study to the Peking Academy of Prehistory. Nothing was heard about this discovery by Western scientists for the next 27 years. During that period, the disks were being studied intensively by Professor Tsum Um Nui. The Bayan Kara Ula Mountains area is one of the most isolated and least known areas on Earth today. The nearest city of any consequence is Lhasa, Tibet, about 400 miles to the south through virtually impassable terrain. It is an area presently inhabited by two tribes of very unusual people. The tribes call themselves Dropa and Han, and simply do not fit into any racial category established by anthropologists. For one thing, they are both of pygmy stature. The tallest and shortest adults have measured 4' 7" and 3'6" respectively, but the average height is 4'2". They are yellow-skinned. Their heads are disproportionately large and sparsely haired, and their eyes are large but not Oriental in aspect, with pale bluish irises. Their features are very nicely formed, most nearly approximating Caucasian, and their bodies are extremely thin and delicate. Adult weight is estimated to average about 38 to 52 pounds. The disks underwent extensive study by Professor Tsum Um Nui, interrupted at times by war. It took him and his coworkers only a short time to discover that the spiral grooves were not sound tracks but, rather, an incredibly ancient writing inscribed in some unknown way and very nearly microscopic in size. The disks were determined to be no less than 3,000 or 4,000 years old at the youngest, and more likely anywhere from 8,000 to 12,000 years old. This would make them the oldest known form of writing in the world. Deciphering was incredibly difficult. It took 24 years -- until 1962 -- before Professor Nui and a young colleague found the key and began deciphering=2E The deciphered spiral text of the stones, even though only a small amount was completed, was so startling in its content that the Chinese government prohibited any publication of the resultant papers. The precise location of the site has never been released, and that area has been termed 'Positively Forbidden Territory' for the Western world since 1938. Then, in 1965, in a mysterious manner, an article written by the Russian philologist Vyacheslav Saizev appeared in Das Vegetarische Universum, a German magazine, and in the Russian- English magazine Sputnik, telling about the disks, their
