Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB

1999-09-29 Thread earthman

 -Caveat Lector-

This is a site re Paleoclimate data concerning the flood. It has a great
deal of info and supportive data

http://www.stanford.edu/~meehan/donnelly/paleo2.html

The link can be accessed via my pole shift links page at
http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/links

Andrew, if you feel inclined to check it out, then perhaps you could
suuggest a few more links.
Thanks
Peter
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- Original Message -
From: Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB


 -Caveat Lector-

  I have read a lot of material on catastrophism
 since I first encountered *The HAB Theory* in 1976, and there is
 considerable evidence that *something* happened within the lifetime of
the
 human race that completely disrupted life on this planet. But it demands
 serious scholarly attention,

 hi, the following comments fit in exactly with the HAB theory I'm afraid.
 The HAB theory says that disaster by plate reshuffle happens every 7500
years
 or so 

 Scientists have never found Noah or his ark, but they believe in his
flood.
 It happened about 7,600 years ago, when the Mediterranean Sea, swollen by
 melted glaciers, breached a natural dam separating it from the freshwater
 lake known today as the Black Sea.
 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-09/26/195l-092699-idx.html
 

 COMPELLING evidence that there was a Great Flood, as told in the Old
 Testament story of Noah's Ark, has been found far below the waters of the
 Black Sea by an American expedition.

 Underwater surveyors, led by Robert Ballard, the renowned oceanographer
who
 found the Titanic and other sunken ships of the 20th century, have
 discovered an ancient coastline at a depth of 450ft.

 http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/timfgnusa02001.html?999

 A

HREF="http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/timfgnusa02001.html?999"C
 li
 ck here: The Times: World News:Evidence of Great Flood is found Story of
 Noah's Ark backed by coastline discovery/A

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Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB

1999-09-29 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Peter, this is excellent! This is precisely the kind of material I have been
looking for.

 -Original Message-
 From: earthman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 3:36 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB

  -Caveat Lector-

 This is a site re Paleoclimate data concerning the flood. It has a great
 deal of info and supportive data

 http://www.stanford.edu/~meehan/donnelly/paleo2.html

 The link can be accessed via my pole shift links page at
 http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/links

 Andrew, if you feel inclined to check it out, then perhaps you could
 suuggest a few more links.
 Thanks
 Peter


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Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB

1999-09-29 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Unfortunately, Andrew, geological history is filled with the marks and scars
of catastrophes that *don't* fit the HAB Theory. The flooding of the Black
Sea is fascinating; it has major implications for archaeology, especially
for the quest to understand the origins of the Indo-European-speaking
peoples. It may indeed be one (I emphasize *one*) of the sources of the
biblical Flood story. There are lots of other floods and related events,
however, which don't fit so neatly into that 7500-year cycle, such as the
eruption of Thera which spelled the doom of Minoan civilization and probably
inspired the legend of Atlantis; or the flooding of the Mediterranean Basin
at 2+ million years B.P., when the Gibraltar dam collapsed. I repeat what I
said in my earlier post: what we need in this discussion is hard
archaeological and palaeontological data which has undergone the rigorous
peer-review process. There is mystery and wonder enough in the history of
this planet without adding our own speculations to the mix...

Please remember, too, that I always try to remain open to unconventional,
off-the-wall ideas. A good many of today's scientific orthodoxies, such as
plate tectonics, started out as off-the-wall ideas, after all. When I
challenge someone's statements, it's in an effort to force more rigorous,
disciplined thinking than is often exhibited. Truth is often found in very
strange places by very strange people. All I ask is that you be as cautious
and precise in your descriptions of that very weird truth as possible. As
J.B.S. Haldane remarked, "The universe is not only queerer than we know, it
is queerer than we *can* know."

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Hennessey [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 10:51 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB

  snip

 hi, the following comments fit in exactly with the HAB theory I'm afraid.
 The HAB theory says that disaster by plate reshuffle happens every 7500
 years
 or so 

 Scientists have never found Noah or his ark, but they believe in his
 flood.
 It happened about 7,600 years ago, when the Mediterranean Sea, swollen by
 melted glaciers, breached a natural dam separating it from the freshwater
 lake known today as the Black Sea.
 
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-09/26/195l-092699-idx.ht
 ml
 

 COMPELLING evidence that there was a Great Flood, as told in the Old
 Testament story of Noah's Ark, has been found far below the waters of the
 Black Sea by an American expedition.

 Underwater surveyors, led by Robert Ballard, the renowned oceanographer
 who
 found the Titanic and other sunken ships of the 20th century, have
 discovered an ancient coastline at a depth of 450ft.

 http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/timfgnusa02001.html?999

snip

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Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB

1999-09-28 Thread Andrew Hennessey

 -Caveat Lector-

 I have read a lot of material on catastrophism
since I first encountered *The HAB Theory* in 1976, and there is
considerable evidence that *something* happened within the lifetime of the
human race that completely disrupted life on this planet. But it demands
serious scholarly attention,

hi, the following comments fit in exactly with the HAB theory I'm afraid.
The HAB theory says that disaster by plate reshuffle happens every 7500 years
or so 

Scientists have never found Noah or his ark, but they believe in his flood.
It happened about 7,600 years ago, when the Mediterranean Sea, swollen by
melted glaciers, breached a natural dam separating it from the freshwater
lake known today as the Black Sea.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-09/26/195l-092699-idx.html


COMPELLING evidence that there was a Great Flood, as told in the Old
Testament story of Noah's Ark, has been found far below the waters of the
Black Sea by an American expedition.

Underwater surveyors, led by Robert Ballard, the renowned oceanographer who
found the Titanic and other sunken ships of the 20th century, have
discovered an ancient coastline at a depth of 450ft.

http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/timfgnusa02001.html?999

A
HREF="http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/timfgnusa02001.html?999"C
li
ck here: The Times: World News:Evidence of Great Flood is found Story of
Noah's Ark backed by coastline discovery/A

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