Re: [CTRL] The Secret World of U.S. Communism
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Peter L. Sroufe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > What Atty. General Bobby Kennedy supposedly did not know at the time, > but the CPUSA did, was that the American Communist party then - and > back to its beginnings in 1919 - was bankrolled by the Kremlin. And of course they were spectacularly successful, which is why we all speak Russian now and listen to THE INTERNATIONALE on our MP3 players, eh? Comrades Reagan, Greenspan and Gates were perfect 'plants', eh? Comrades Jobs, Gingrich and Bush might not have done so well, but they were even less obvious in their "deep-cover" positions, eh? Ya sure. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Secret World of U.S. Communism
-Caveat Lector- At 07:48 AM 6/27/99 -0700, you wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >- Original Message - >From: Peter L. Sroufe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> What Atty. General Bobby Kennedy supposedly did not know at the time, >> but the CPUSA did, was that the American Communist party then - and >> back to its beginnings in 1919 - was bankrolled by the Kremlin. > >And of course they were spectacularly successful, which is why we all >speak Russian now and listen to THE INTERNATIONALE on our MP3 players, >eh? Comrades Reagan, No! No! No! Reagan was a detached, amiable, old doofuss. He didn't know what was going on! Stick to the party line, comrade. >Greenspan and Gates were perfect 'plants', eh? Greenspan: a Jew was the ultimate plant. There is no "inside" information more "inside" than what Greenspan knows. The linchpin of the "Federal Reserve" money cartel. Gates: an innocent but cagey techno-geek who got too rich too quickly for the comfort of the globalist elite. Rubin (Jew, Globalist) and Cantor (Jew, Globalist) ordered President Penis to dispatch Janet Reno (dim but servile female token) and Department of Justice anti-trust goons to crush his ribs. >Comrades Jobs, Gingrich and Bush might not have done so well, but they >were even less obvious in their "deep-cover" positions, eh? Ya sure. > Comrade Jobs ((Jew, greedbag) was recently observed "entertaining" the Rent-A-President at his California mansion, and plying him with "campaign donations" undoubtedly with the desire to see another of computer industry rival Gates' ribs crushed, or perhaps a kneecap broken. "Comrade" Gingrich: an articulate and charismatic threat to the regime who had to be discredited and disposed of. He was. "Comrade Bush": a clueless Yankee, who didn't realize when he said "new world order" that there really was a "New World Order" and that he was expected to be working in its behalf. NWO realized he didn't have his heart in their game when he looked at his watch during debate with Clinton. >And of course they were spectacularly successful, which is why we all >speak Russian now and listen to THE INTERNATIONALE on our MP3 players, >eh? After the Democratic Convention of 1980, Teddy Kennedy and his retinue did in fact drive to the hospital room of the dying socialist icon Michael Harrington, join hands, and sing the Internationale. The Kremlin, the Berlin Wall, and the Kremlin-backed CPUSA went out of business only because the goals of Communism had succeeded. America had become a one-party system (with a "Blue" and a "Gold" crew just like a nuclear submarine), with a controlled press, socialized retirement, a government monopoly on primary and secondary education, a radicalized tenured establishment in the universities, bureacratic control of all business activities, greatly diminished property rights largely through "environmental regulation", a confiscatory tax system, and an elitist nomenklatura just like the Soviet Union. The Cold War ended because the Commies won. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Secret World of U.S. Communism
-Caveat Lector- Bobby Kennedy probably was aware that the real danger was from the bankers that the Kennedys were fighting on some fronts, and not from the comical Communist Party USA -- although much evil was done on lower levels by that crowd. Ric Carter misses the point if he thinks that those funding Communism every intended the US to speak Russian. The bankers funding Communism (at that time, not now) spoke English and lived in New York, Washington DC and London. Get George Knupffers book STRUGGLE FOR WORLD POWER, any of Anthony Sutton's books, especially Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution. Also, pick up the Strawberry Statement by a sixties radical who expresses bewilderment at one point that the radicals in the street were being funded by EXXON and other big Capitalist centers. He doesn't know what exactly to make of this, but notes it. And there are many books offered on the Project website that go into these things. Also, get the book Red Symphony -- if you can find it. Jim Condit Jr. > -Original Message- > From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Ric Carter > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 1999 10:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Secret World of U.S. Communism > > > -Caveat Lector- > > - Original Message - > From: Peter L. Sroufe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > What Atty. General Bobby Kennedy supposedly did not know at the time, > > but the CPUSA did, was that the American Communist party then - and > > back to its beginnings in 1919 - was bankrolled by the Kremlin. > > And of course they were spectacularly successful, which is why we all > speak Russian now and listen to THE INTERNATIONALE on our MP3 players, > eh? Comrades Reagan, Greenspan and Gates were perfect 'plants', eh? > Comrades Jobs, Gingrich and Bush might not have done so well, but they > were even less obvious in their "deep-cover" positions, eh? Ya sure. > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. > Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are > sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections > and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and > minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always > suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Secret World of U.S. Communism [explosive must read 4 Freedom Lovers]
-Caveat Lector- The Secret World of U.S. Communism 0n March 27, 1962, the U.S. Communist newspaper The Worker exuberantly reported the following story: Attorney General Robert E Kennedy admitted, in effect, in a press conference in Los Angeles on Saturday, that the persecution of the Communist Party reflects a monstrous hoax perpetrated on the American people. He declared at the press conference that the Communist Party of the U.S. is no danger to the security of the U.S. For the CPUSA, such a statement from the then-highest official of the U.S. Justice Department (as well as the brother of the U.S. President) was astonishing and unexpected. Especially so, since the Kennedy administration had experienced an embarrassing Communist public relations victory in its botched Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba the previous April 17, 1961. What Atty. General Bobby Kennedy supposedly did not know at the time, but the CPUSA did, was that the American Communist party then and back to its beginnings in 1919 was bankrolled by the Kremlin. CPUSA sent its members for military, espionage and terror training to the USSR, maintained an illegal underground apparatus to steal U.S. documents (including atomic secrets), penetrated both the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the forerunner of the CIA, and Office of War Information (OWI) during the Roosevelt WWII administration. It even commissioned CPUSA officials to Soviet secret police posts to spy on each other and on suspected unorthodox leftists, such as Stalins nemesis Trotsky, who was murdered with an axe to his skull in Mexico City, all arranged by the CPUSA and Kremlin fellow-henchmen. After decades of deceit, the truth about the CPUSA is finally out. With the collapse of the Soviet Union, the archives of the Comintern (Communist International), the Soviet Communist Party, and other formerly super-secret documents have become available to historians and researchers. Under an agreement with the Russian Centre for the Preservation and Study of Documents of Recent History, Yale University press is undertaking a gigantic project to publish an annotated selection of these official records in a series called Annals of Communism. A total of 18 volumes is planned (in English and Russian editions) dealing with such topics as History of the Soviet Gulag System, 1920-1989, The Last Days of the Romanovs, and Soviet Politics and Repression in the 1930s. The great value of the project is already apparent in volume one, entitled The Secret World of American Communism with Soviet documents authoritatively annotated by Harvey Klehr of Emery University, John Earl Haynes of the Library of Congress and Fridrikh Igorevich Firsov, now curator of the Comintern archives. The documents in this volume demonstrate that the widespread popular belief that American Communists collaborated with Soviet intelligence and placed loyalty to the Soviet Union ahead of loyalty to the United States was well founded, they say. Concern about the subversive threat of the CPUSA and worries that Communists employed in sensitive government jobs constituted a security risk were equally well founded. So much for the Party and its fellow-travellers line that anti-communism was an irrational and indefensible persecution of a group of American reformers or that it was impossible for the CPUSA to have engaged in nefarious activities. Documents from the Soviet secret archives prove that is exactly what CPUSA agents were doing. Many historians have failed to come to grips with the issue of Communist infiltration in government agencies or the dubious nature of the Popular Front alliance between. Communists and a segment of liberals during the 1930s and 1940s, the editors of this volume note. Previously, evidence of the Communist presence could be trivialized or its reliability questioned. In addition to their own evidentiary weight, they lend crucial support to the large mass of direct and circumstantial evidence indicating a substantial organized presence in a number of government agencies... The CPUSA, Klehr, Haynes and Firsov pronounce, was a conspiracy financed by a hostile foreign power that recruited members for clandestine work, developed an elaborate underground apparatus, and used that apparatus to collaborate with espionage services of that power. Official Soviet documents that have become available in recent months shed much light on secret Kremlin activities and directives over the past decades. For example: Proof that the Kremlin directly ordered the massacre of 5,000 Polish military officers at Katyn Forest in 1940 and possibly 15,000 other intellectuals, religious and prominent Polish citizens at POW camps in Kozielsk, Starobielsk, and Ostashkov, USSR who simply vanished after WWII. Proof that Stalin ordered the North Korean invasion of South Korea in 1950 and used respected foreign journalists such as I.E Stone and Wilfred Burchett (both Soviet agents) to blame South Korea
