Re: [CTRL] White Race to be wiped out by immigration? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- > Yardbird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well flw I believe you have mistaken Herbert Spencer's concept of Social > Darwinism with Darwin himself. Darwin never spoke of inferior and/or > superior species but of those that are the most capable of adapting to > changing environmental conditions. Spencer is the man who coined the > phrase "survival of the fittest" and began to apply the theory of > evolution to society. Also I'm not convinced that this "the white race is > doomed" scenario is apt in the longterm what with the rampant spread of > AIDS, TB, typhoid, cholera, inter alia, in the non-white population. > Of course in keeping with your Spencerian views we could say that the > reason is is that these people are simply too stupid to live. You assume too much. I merely said I admire Darwin, not that Darwin ever promulgated the theory of "survival of the fittest." Of course Darwin opines that species disappear or thrive due to their ability or failure to adopt to changing circumstances whether or not that equates with "inferiority" is in the mind of the beholder. The concept of "race" is ignorant. There is no different "races", merely local environmental adaptations. If people are capable of breeding, they cannot be a different species. However there is no doubt that different "races", i.e. different localized tribes may hold different cultural / economic / political values based on their local experiences. That said, I do find that the whole false notion of "diversity" is a red herring promulgated by those who seek to glorify tribalism and separatism. When " multi culturalism" includes collectivism; dependency; statism instead of different types of cookingthat is where it becomes a stalking horse for those with a hidden agenda. It is a matter of values and ideasnot race. flw http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] White Race to be wiped out by immigration? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- >What's wrong with having an England? Ask their victims. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] White Race to be wiped out by immigration? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Well flw I believe you have mistaken Herbert Spencer's concept of Social Darwinism with Darwin himself. Darwin never spoke of inferior and/or superior species but of those that are the most capable of adapting to changing environmental conditions. Spencer is the man who coined the phrase "survival of the fittest" and began to apply the theory of evolution to society. Also I'm not convinced that this "the white race is doomed" scenario is apt in the longterm what with the rampant spread of AIDS, TB, typhoid, cholera, inter alia, in the non-white population. Of course in keeping with your Spencerian views we could say that the reason is is that these people are simply too stupid to live. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] White Race to be wiped out by immigration? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- > townhall.com > Paul Craig Roberts > December 7, 2000 > > For whom the bells toll > > There won't always be an England or a United States. Both are already > fading, not from military conquest but from their own immigration policy. > Demographers have calculated that by the end of this century the English > people will be a minority in their homeland. As someone who thinks Darwin makes a lot of sense it seems that this development is a good thing. After all if the "white race" is fostering its own "disappearance" then it obviously is an inferior race that should disappear. flw http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] White Race to be wiped out by immigration? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.townhall.com/columnists/paulcraigroberts/pcr20001207.shtml townhall.com Paul Craig Roberts December 7, 2000 For whom the bells toll There won't always be an England or a United States. Both are already fading, not from military conquest but from their own immigration policy. Demographers have calculated that by the end of this century the English people will be a minority in their homeland. The English are not having enough children to reproduce themselves. In contrast, the "people of color" who have flooded into England have a high fertility rate. Non-whites will comprise a majority of the population of London in just nine years. It is amazing how fast it is happening. Half a century ago, there were only a few tens of thousands of non-whites in the entirety of Great Britain. In another half century, there will be the beginnings of a black government. What will be the fate of the white minority after decades of being demonized as "white racists" by their own kind at Oxford, Cambridge and the University of London? The English may be finished as a people, but they still have twice as long as American whites. Demographers predict that whites will comprise a minority of the U.S. population by mid-century. It has already happened in California and in many cities. Like the English, American whites are failing to reproduce. More than 42 percent of American women of childbearing age are childless. The figure is rising as gender quotas, and the breakdown of marriage and family pull more white women onto career paths that don't lead to children. Examining the situation, the London Observer said that that this is "the first time in history that a major indigenous population has voluntarily become a minority, rather than through war, famine or disease." It is amazing that the two most important and powerful countries of the past two centuries have legislated their own path to extinction. But it is astounding that it is occurring in the same two countries where intellectuals prattle on endlessly about the need for diversity. There are many more non-white countries than white ones; yet, it is the white ones that are slated to disappear. What's wrong with having an England? What a colorful and unique place! What character and genius! The cradle of the rule of law and representative democracy! The font of the scientific and technological revolutions! It is absurd to think these accomplishments are happenstance unrelated to Englishness. Do we really need yet another black country, another India, or a mixture of the two? Why can't we keep England English for diversity's sake? And the United States. What other country has such a strong sense of right and wrong, and such determination to see justice done all over the world? Who but the United States sends its treasure, not as tribute to the powerful but as gifts to the poor? What other country sends its troops to stop genocides and wars in foreign lands? Central and South America are full of Hispanic populations. Do we really need another one here? What is it that compels the United States and England to destroy themselves with an immigration policy designed to replace the indigenous population with different racial stock? In these two lands, agitators fight to preserve every wetlands weed, sand fly and snail darter. What's wrong with preserving England and America? People had better give this some thought, because the decision won't be theirs to make for much longer. The 21st century may bring the extinction of white populations. Confined to a small area of the world, white populations are everywhere in decline. Italy, once a fecund Catholic nation where a large family was everything, has such a low birth rate that its population is declining. Everywhere else in Europe birth rates have fallen below replacement rates. European governments open the borders to Third World immigrants in order to keep a tax base for the expensive social welfare systems that have crowded children out of the household budgets of the indigenous population. Canada, also, is well on her way to becoming a Third World country. Russia, too, has a declining population reeling from the environmental and economic destruction after 75 years of communist rule. Pressed on her eastern and southern borders by Asiatic populations, Russia is slowly retreating from her empire. In the far Pacific, two island nations, New Zealand and Australia, hang on to an exported British culture. Perhaps they will be preserved, like the Galapagos Islands, as a place where creatures reside who have disappeared elsewhere. ©2000 Creators Syndicate, Inc. http://www.townhall.com/columnists/paulcraigroberts/pcr20001207.shtml +++ http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/immigrat/kennf.htm December 1994 Must It Be the Rest Against the West? Absent major changes in North-South relations, the wretched should inherit the eart