Re: [CTRL] You Can Trust the Communists....

2000-01-30 Thread Michael Pugliese

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And you can trust some anti-communists to be nutty. The Schwarz is
simplified Tragedy and Hope by Bill Clinton mentor, at Georgetown, Carroll
Quigley.
The None Dare Call It Conspiracy book is by Gary Allen, who Reagan told to ,
"Shut Up!, " when he won a GOP primary in California and was invited with
other GOP candidates.
None Dare Care It Treason was answered by a liberal dupe with the waggish
title None Dare Call It Reason.
Michael Pugliese
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Subject: Re: You Can Trust the Communists


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>
> Tsadowq wrote:
> >>Dr. Fred
> > Schwartz warned of in 1962: You can trust the
> > Communiststo be Communists.<<
>
> Yes,  this is an excellent expose` and a small book written in 1962,  as
you
> noted, that is cram packed with valuable information;  especially to those
> who do not seem to believe that "Communism" exists or ever did exist...
> Another book to follow this one is called...
> "None Dare Call It Conspiracy",
> which I am at a loss at the moment to draw up the author's name,
> (and my copy is on loan).
>
> Tsadowq commented:
> >>if the Communists are to succeed.<<
>
> It is not a matter of  >"IF"...  the Communists are to succeed<   as much
as
> the fact that they have succeeded in destroying all that has made
capitalism
> and the USA a super power in the world.
>
> Politcally, for example, the traditional family bond has been broken;
there
> are more divorces and single family homes in the USA today than ever
before,
> as the courts continue to adopt laws that make it 'easy' to get a divorce
> and leave untold thousands of children without two parents and many
without
> support. Another political fallacy is that there is a "war on drugs".  The
> only war that exists in this category is the one the gov 't has created to
> make us believe there is this ongoing internal war.  *IF*  this country
had
> really wanted to do something about what is perceived as a "drug" problem
> among the populace,  it would have been quashed back in the days of the
> psychedelic era or before.  This country is not so weak that it could not
> have handled this problem among it's citizens long ago.  This country's
> hired propa-ganders want us to believe that there is a drug war and in
> continuum, keeps the lie going...  to the point of providing the scenario
to
> appear that it is true.  Notice, we have the "war on drugs",  the "war on
> poverty",  the "war on mental illness", "war on guns",  etc., etc.  There
> are so many internal specified wars going on that it's a wonder that the
> Administration of this country can even think straight...  And,  there is
so
> much talk of "peace, peace" to resolve all these  internal "wars" within
> this country,  muchless in foreign councils.
>
> Economically,  for example,  OPEC countries are aided by Communists to
> flourish or demand higher barrel prices which are handed down to the
> consumer at the pump...  we all know this from the past few weeks of
rising
> gasoline prices,  and previous stats that can prove out the rising prices
> during the processes of certain world issues.  Stocks are driven up or
down
> with investments funded by those of this Communistic mindset to keep our
> heads spinning in confusion.
>
> Educationally...  well we all know that the NEA is infamous the past
thirty
> years for their agenda to 'dumb down'  it's students.  Scholastically
> speaking,  the national ACT scores are lower than they've ever been.  The
> national TPE (Teacher's Proficiency Exams) are lower than they've ever
> been...  and the government wants to pay teachers more(!)  (For what?
> Ignorance and lack of ability to teach...?)  Proof again,  that children
are
> not being taught what the system ultimately demands;  a contrary set of
> standards.  No wonder kids come out of high school dazed and confused.
>
> Religiously...  there has never been more division among religious beliefs
> than there are now.  All the way from atheism to Judaism to Catholicism,
to
> Christianity.  The defining lines are drawn more clearly day by day...
>
> In 1958,  Nikita Kruchev and other comrads of the same 'ilk' set an agenda
> to destroy the US from the inside out.  Nearly all 38 tenents of that
agenda
> have been accomplished by those who call themselves "liberals" ...  in the
> name of pea

Re: [CTRL] You Can Trust the Communists....

2000-01-29 Thread Tenorlove

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Gary Allen is the author of None Dare Call it Conspiracy.
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Re: [CTRL] You Can Trust the Communists....

2000-01-29 Thread Eagle 1

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Tsadowq wrote:
>>Dr. Fred
> Schwartz warned of in 1962: You can trust the
> Communiststo be Communists.<<

Yes,  this is an excellent expose` and a small book written in 1962,  as you
noted, that is cram packed with valuable information;  especially to those
who do not seem to believe that "Communism" exists or ever did exist...
Another book to follow this one is called...
"None Dare Call It Conspiracy",
which I am at a loss at the moment to draw up the author's name,
(and my copy is on loan).

Tsadowq commented:
>>if the Communists are to succeed.<<

It is not a matter of  >"IF"...  the Communists are to succeed<   as much as
the fact that they have succeeded in destroying all that has made capitalism
and the USA a super power in the world.

Politcally, for example, the traditional family bond has been broken;  there
are more divorces and single family homes in the USA today than ever before,
as the courts continue to adopt laws that make it 'easy' to get a divorce
and leave untold thousands of children without two parents and many without
support. Another political fallacy is that there is a "war on drugs".  The
only war that exists in this category is the one the gov 't has created to
make us believe there is this ongoing internal war.  *IF*  this country had
really wanted to do something about what is perceived as a "drug" problem
among the populace,  it would have been quashed back in the days of the
psychedelic era or before.  This country is not so weak that it could not
have handled this problem among it's citizens long ago.  This country's
hired propa-ganders want us to believe that there is a drug war and in
continuum, keeps the lie going...  to the point of providing the scenario to
appear that it is true.  Notice, we have the "war on drugs",  the "war on
poverty",  the "war on mental illness", "war on guns",  etc., etc.  There
are so many internal specified wars going on that it's a wonder that the
Administration of this country can even think straight...  And,  there is so
much talk of "peace, peace" to resolve all these  internal "wars" within
this country,  muchless in foreign councils.

Economically,  for example,  OPEC countries are aided by Communists to
flourish or demand higher barrel prices which are handed down to the
consumer at the pump...  we all know this from the past few weeks of rising
gasoline prices,  and previous stats that can prove out the rising prices
during the processes of certain world issues.  Stocks are driven up or down
with investments funded by those of this Communistic mindset to keep our
heads spinning in confusion.

Educationally...  well we all know that the NEA is infamous the past thirty
years for their agenda to 'dumb down'  it's students.  Scholastically
speaking,  the national ACT scores are lower than they've ever been.  The
national TPE (Teacher's Proficiency Exams) are lower than they've ever
been...  and the government wants to pay teachers more(!)  (For what?
Ignorance and lack of ability to teach...?)  Proof again,  that children are
not being taught what the system ultimately demands;  a contrary set of
standards.  No wonder kids come out of high school dazed and confused.

Religiously...  there has never been more division among religious beliefs
than there are now.  All the way from atheism to Judaism to Catholicism, to
Christianity.  The defining lines are drawn more clearly day by day...

In 1958,  Nikita Kruchev and other comrads of the same 'ilk' set an agenda
to destroy the US from the inside out.  Nearly all 38 tenents of that agenda
have been accomplished by those who call themselves "liberals" ...  in the
name of peace and justice.

It's only a matter of time,  before the liberal realizes that the empire
he's built has been built on slippery sand and not on solid rock.

eagle 1


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> Previous Thread: Re: [CTRL] The proof is in the pudding - Golitsyn
defector
> right
>
> ::
>
> A more recent defector named Stanislav Lunev penned
> Through the Eyes of the Enemy. To date, Lunev is the
> highest ranking military (publicly known) defector.
>
> The book itself, having been written years after Golitsyn's
> now prophetic New Lies for Old, is not a whirlwind of yet
> proven to be true prognostications; nor is it written with
> the quality or depth with which Golitsyn forewarned.
>
> When reading Lunev's account of events in 

[CTRL] You Can Trust the Communists....

2000-01-28 Thread Tsadowq

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Previous Thread: Re: [CTRL] The proof is in the pudding - Golitsyn defector
right

::

A more recent defector named Stanislav Lunev penned
Through the Eyes of the Enemy. To date, Lunev is the
highest ranking military (publicly known) defector.

The book itself, having been written years after Golitsyn's
now prophetic New Lies for Old, is not a whirlwind of yet
proven to be true prognostications; nor is it written with
the quality or depth with which Golitsyn forewarned.

When reading Lunev's account of events in Russia -- as
written by Ira Winkler, the reader feels more like they
are hearing the old stories of one's life, as told to them
by their grandpa...

Providing of course, that your grandpa
was a Russian GRU Agent trained to kill.

A book which is not very well known, Lunev's meager
testimony echoes that of his fellow Russian Anatoliy
Golitsyn, and only admits to that which Dr. Fred
Schwartz warned of in 1962: You can trust the
Communiststo be Communists.

Lunev confirms that which time has proven for
Golitsyn, and his witness belongs on your library
shelve if you are one who collects books that are
likely to be given the Montag treatment -- if the
Communists are to succeed.

Tsadowq

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