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-Caveat Lector- flw wrote: -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: nurev [EMAIL PROTECTED] " The Plot To Overthrow FDR " The true conspiracy by some of America's Corporate Elites to overthrow FDR and install a much admired Fascist government based on those of the European Fascists in Italy, Spain, and Germany. Hmm. Fascists plotting against A fascist president. Those damm fascists just can't get along I guess. flw You obviously need new glasses FLW. The capitalist big buisiness traitors didn't put in that much money and effort to oust one of their own. Your Libertarian ideology is making you stupid and unable to discern between genuine fascists and Liberal capitalists. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- "Howard R. Davis III" wrote: -Caveat Lector- nurev wrote: -Caveat Lector- Friday 8pm ( E.T.) on the History Channel. " The Plot To Overthrow FDR " The true conspiracy by some of America's Corporate Elites to overthrow FDR and install a much admired Fascist government based on those of the European Fascists in Italy, Spain, and Germany. They made just one teeny weeny mistake. They asked General Smedley Darlington Butler, the most famous and revered military man in America at the time to lead the vast number of Vets and active duty soldiers that they hoped would take part in the coup. He saved this country. Major General Smedley D. Butler was a three time winner of the Congressional Medal of Honor, and a famous hero of the Spanish American War and W.W.I. How is it that hardly anyone has ever heard of him? Don't miss this opportunity! The few books about Smedley Butler are out of print and very difficult to come by. This is one of the MOST SUPPRESSED chapters in our history. It is one of the foremost examples of corporate treason in a long history of corporate treason which goes on to this day. I have a book by Smedley Butler called "War is a Racket". It is a short book, but very well written. He pulls no punches. Basically he says that the wars that he had served in were scams to enrich the major industrial corporations. He sighted the profits of many companies and contrasted that to the pay of the average soldier who actually fought the wars. It is a very hard hitting little books. It may still be available. Perhaps from the John Birchers. Butler was also a strong opponent along with Lindbergh with whom, I believe, he often spoke at rallies opposing the entry of America into WW2. That is probably why you don't hear a lot about him. Was this mentioned on the program you mention above? Howard Davis It was briefly alluded to. I thought it was an excellent program. The usual namby pamby disclaimer normally accompanying controversial issues on the History Channel was quite weak. Butler was against US involvement in foreign wars. He was against war profiteering by American capitalists. He was against wasting the lives of America's young military men for the sake of Wall Street. His isolationism WAS NOT the same as that of Lindbergh and other Fascists and pro Nazis who wanted to insure Nazi ascendancy by keeping America neutral. They all wanted to keep America isolated but not for the same reasons. He was the greatest. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- nurev wrote: Butler was against US involvement in foreign wars. He was against war profiteering by American capitalists. He was against wasting the lives of America's young military men for the sake of Wall Street. His isolationism WAS NOT the same as that of Lindbergh and other Fascists and pro Nazis who wanted to insure Nazi ascendancy by keeping America neutral. They all wanted to keep America isolated but not for the same reasons. He was the greatest. What evidence do you base your statement that Lindbergh was a fascist? I do not know what his political beliefs were other then that he wanted to keep the US out of WW2, though he later fought in the pacific (though unofficially). I do know that his father was a strong enemy of the the Federal Reserve and did all he could to try to stop it while a congressman at the time it was voted in. Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, nurev wrote: -Caveat Lector- Friday 8pm ( E.T.) on the History Channel. " The Plot To Overthrow FDR " The true conspiracy by some of America's Corporate Elites to overthrow FDR and install a much admired Fascist government based on those of the European Fascists in Italy, Spain, and Germany. Besides History Channel, info on the plot against FDR is in the book, "Treason" by Gurudas. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: nurev [EMAIL PROTECTED] " The Plot To Overthrow FDR " The true conspiracy by some of America's Corporate Elites to overthrow FDR and install a much admired Fascist government based on those of the European Fascists in Italy, Spain, and Germany. Hmm. Fascists plotting against A fascist president. Those damm fascists just can't get along I guess. flw DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- nurev wrote: -Caveat Lector- Friday 8pm ( E.T.) on the History Channel. " The Plot To Overthrow FDR " The true conspiracy by some of America's Corporate Elites to overthrow FDR and install a much admired Fascist government based on those of the European Fascists in Italy, Spain, and Germany. They made just one teeny weeny mistake. They asked General Smedley Darlington Butler, the most famous and revered military man in America at the time to lead the vast number of Vets and active duty soldiers that they hoped would take part in the coup. He saved this country. Major General Smedley D. Butler was a three time winner of the Congressional Medal of Honor, and a famous hero of the Spanish American War and W.W.I. How is it that hardly anyone has ever heard of him? Don't miss this opportunity! The few books about Smedley Butler are out of print and very difficult to come by. This is one of the MOST SUPPRESSED chapters in our history. It is one of the foremost examples of corporate treason in a long history of corporate treason which goes on to this day. I have a book by Smedley Butler called "War is a Racket". It is a short book, but very well written. He pulls no punches. Basically he says that the wars that he had served in were scams to enrich the major industrial corporations. He sighted the profits of many companies and contrasted that to the pay of the average soldier who actually fought the wars. It is a very hard hitting little books. It may still be available. Perhaps from the John Birchers. Butler was also a strong opponent along with Lindbergh with whom, I believe, he often spoke at rallies opposing the entry of America into WW2. That is probably why you don't hear a lot about him. Was this mentioned on the program you mention above? Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- flw wrote: -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: nurev [EMAIL PROTECTED] " The Plot To Overthrow FDR " The true conspiracy by some of America's Corporate Elites to overthrow FDR and install a much admired Fascist government based on those of the European Fascists in Italy, Spain, and Germany. Hmm. Fascists plotting against A fascist president. Those damm fascists just can't get along I guess. flw Yes, this is interesting. Why would certain people from a major bank approach a known patriot who clearly was not going to lead a fascist takeover? Why not someone like MacArthur? And then the whole thing comes out and nothing happens? Perhaps it was spin? FDR attacked by enemies he had done everything to please by confiscating all American's gold (except for multi-national corporations)? Sounds fishy. Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om