Re: [CTRL] ******** ATTENTION - SPECIAL PROGRAM ************

1999-02-13 Thread nurev

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flw wrote:

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 " The Plot To Overthrow FDR "
 
 The true conspiracy by some of America's
 Corporate Elites
 to overthrow FDR and install a much admired
 Fascist government
 based on those of the European Fascists in Italy,
 Spain, and
 Germany.

 Hmm. Fascists plotting against A fascist
 president.
 Those damm fascists just can't get along I guess.
 flw

You obviously need new glasses FLW.

The capitalist big buisiness traitors didn't put in that much
money and effort to oust one of their own.

Your Libertarian ideology is making you stupid and unable to discern
between genuine fascists and Liberal capitalists.

Joshua2

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Re: [CTRL] ******** ATTENTION - SPECIAL PROGRAM ************

1999-02-13 Thread nurev

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"Howard R. Davis III" wrote:

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 nurev wrote:
 
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  Friday 8pm ( E.T.) on the History Channel.
 
  " The Plot To Overthrow FDR "
 
  The true conspiracy by some of America's Corporate Elites
  to overthrow FDR and install a much admired Fascist government
  based on those of the European Fascists in Italy, Spain, and
  Germany.
 
  They made just one teeny weeny mistake. They asked General
  Smedley Darlington Butler, the most famous and revered military
  man in America at the time to lead the vast number of Vets
  and active duty soldiers that they hoped would take part in the
  coup.
 
  He saved this country. Major General Smedley D. Butler was a
  three time winner of the Congressional Medal of Honor, and a
  famous hero of the Spanish American War and W.W.I.
 
  How is it that hardly anyone has ever heard of him?
 
  Don't miss this opportunity! The few books about Smedley Butler
  are out of print and very difficult to come by. This is one of
  the MOST SUPPRESSED chapters in our history. It is one of the
  foremost examples of  corporate treason in a long history of
  corporate treason which goes on to this day.
 

I have a book by Smedley Butler called "War is a Racket". It is a
 short book, but very well written. He pulls no punches. Basically he
 says that the wars that he had served in were scams to enrich the major
 industrial corporations. He sighted the profits of many companies and
 contrasted that to the pay of the average soldier who actually fought
 the wars. It is a very hard hitting little books. It may still be
 available. Perhaps from the John Birchers.
Butler was also a strong opponent along with Lindbergh with whom, I
 believe, he often spoke at rallies opposing the entry of America into
 WW2. That is probably why you don't hear a lot about him. Was this
 mentioned on the program you mention above?

 Howard Davis


It was briefly alluded to. I thought it was an excellent program. The
usual namby pamby disclaimer normally accompanying controversial
issues
on the History Channel was quite weak.

Butler was against US involvement in foreign wars. He was against war
profiteering by American capitalists. He was against wasting the lives
of America's young military men for the sake of Wall Street. His
isolationism WAS NOT the same as that of Lindbergh and other Fascists
and pro Nazis who wanted to insure Nazi ascendancy by keeping America
neutral.

They all wanted to keep America isolated but not for the same reasons.

He was the greatest.

Joshua2

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Re: [CTRL] ******** ATTENTION - SPECIAL PROGRAM ************

1999-02-13 Thread Howard R. Davis III

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nurev wrote:



 Butler was against US involvement in foreign wars. He was against war
 profiteering by American capitalists. He was against wasting the lives
 of America's young military men for the sake of Wall Street. His
 isolationism WAS NOT the same as that of Lindbergh and other Fascists
 and pro Nazis who wanted to insure Nazi ascendancy by keeping America
 neutral.

 They all wanted to keep America isolated but not for the same reasons.

 He was the greatest.

   What evidence do you base your statement that Lindbergh was a
fascist? I do not know what his political beliefs were other then that
he wanted to keep the US out of WW2, though he later fought in the
pacific (though unofficially). I do know that his father was a strong
enemy of the the Federal Reserve and did all he could to try to stop it
while a congressman at the time it was voted in.

Howard Davis

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Re: [CTRL] ******** ATTENTION - SPECIAL PROGRAM ************

1999-02-12 Thread Brian Redman

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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, nurev wrote:

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 Friday 8pm ( E.T.) on the History Channel.



 " The Plot To Overthrow FDR "

 The true conspiracy by some of America's Corporate Elites
 to overthrow FDR and install a much admired Fascist government
 based on those of the European Fascists in Italy, Spain, and
 Germany.

Besides History Channel, info on the plot against FDR is in
the book, "Treason" by Gurudas.

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Re: [CTRL] ******** ATTENTION - SPECIAL PROGRAM ************

1999-02-12 Thread flw

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-Original Message-
From: nurev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
" The Plot To Overthrow FDR "

The true conspiracy by some of America's
Corporate Elites
to overthrow FDR and install a much admired
Fascist government
based on those of the European Fascists in Italy,
Spain, and
Germany.


Hmm. Fascists plotting against A fascist
president.
Those damm fascists just can't get along I guess.
flw

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Re: [CTRL] ******** ATTENTION - SPECIAL PROGRAM ************

1999-02-12 Thread Howard R. Davis III

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nurev wrote:

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 Friday 8pm ( E.T.) on the History Channel.

 " The Plot To Overthrow FDR "

 The true conspiracy by some of America's Corporate Elites
 to overthrow FDR and install a much admired Fascist government
 based on those of the European Fascists in Italy, Spain, and
 Germany.

 They made just one teeny weeny mistake. They asked General
 Smedley Darlington Butler, the most famous and revered military
 man in America at the time to lead the vast number of Vets
 and active duty soldiers that they hoped would take part in the
 coup.

 He saved this country. Major General Smedley D. Butler was a
 three time winner of the Congressional Medal of Honor, and a
 famous hero of the Spanish American War and W.W.I.

 How is it that hardly anyone has ever heard of him?

 Don't miss this opportunity! The few books about Smedley Butler
 are out of print and very difficult to come by. This is one of
 the MOST SUPPRESSED chapters in our history. It is one of the
 foremost examples of  corporate treason in a long history of
 corporate treason which goes on to this day.


   I have a book by Smedley Butler called "War is a Racket". It is a
short book, but very well written. He pulls no punches. Basically he
says that the wars that he had served in were scams to enrich the major
industrial corporations. He sighted the profits of many companies and
contrasted that to the pay of the average soldier who actually fought
the wars. It is a very hard hitting little books. It may still be
available. Perhaps from the John Birchers.
   Butler was also a strong opponent along with Lindbergh with whom, I
believe, he often spoke at rallies opposing the entry of America into
WW2. That is probably why you don't hear a lot about him. Was this
mentioned on the program you mention above?

Howard Davis

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Re: [CTRL] ******** ATTENTION - SPECIAL PROGRAM ************

1999-02-12 Thread Howard R. Davis III

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flw wrote:

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 From: nurev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 " The Plot To Overthrow FDR "
 
 The true conspiracy by some of America's
 Corporate Elites
 to overthrow FDR and install a much admired
 Fascist government
 based on those of the European Fascists in Italy,
 Spain, and
 Germany.

 Hmm. Fascists plotting against A fascist
 president.
 Those damm fascists just can't get along I guess.
 flw


   Yes, this is interesting. Why would certain people from a major bank
approach a known patriot who clearly was not going to lead a fascist
takeover? Why not someone like MacArthur? And then the whole thing comes
out and nothing happens? Perhaps it was spin? FDR attacked by enemies he
had done everything to please by confiscating all American's gold
(except for multi-national corporations)? Sounds fishy.

Howard Davis

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