Re: [CTRL] A Fresh Look At Clinton

1998-12-18 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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With all due respect, Reverend, I think you are confused on a number of
key issues. The Republican party has championed the idea of trying to
impose the Christian fundamentalist agenda on the country.  It is
President Bill Clinton who has tried bring some measure of diversity to
the political process ( his willingness to appoint gays and women to key
positions in government).

On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Reverend S. Michael Wilson wrote:

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 WARNING:  What follows is a personal opinion piece that does NOT go into
 detail about perjury under oath, dishonesty, political scandal, cigars, or
 anything else that has been gracing the headlines for the past months.  Do not
 simply delete this, thinking that it is nothing but more of the same old
 Republican Moralistic Posturing, or outraged cries of “It’s not about sex!”
 The following is something I consider to be fresh stomping ground, and should
 cause those who are capable of thinking to do so.
 With Bill Clinton’s impeachment trials just around the corner, and public
 opinion on the fairness and legitimacy of the crusade against Clinton being
 espoused and dictated by more polls and editorials than the average human can
 normally stomach in a single sitting, I have decided to finally throw my own
 conscience grenades into the philosophical battlegrounds.  I fully realise
 that anybody and everybody has their own beliefs on the subject of Clinton’s
 “High Crimes  Misdemeanours” as of late, and be they political or moral
 justifications, most of them tend to echo and repeat one another with similar
 (if not identical) arguments.
 It is with this knowledge that I am offering my own thoughts on the matter
 for public consumption, for I feel that I have taken a standpoint on this
 whole Circus Politicus that has not been touched upon by anybody.  Some may
 have hinted in this direction, and others may have poorly summed it up in a
 snappy catch-phrase of some kind, but I am positive that what follows has not
 yet been properly preached by anyone.  Allow me to be the first.
 Simply put, I say nail the bastard, and for no other reason than getting
 even.  What do I mean?  Well, many of Clinton’s defenders are quit fond of
 stating that the only thing that The President is guilty of is cheating on his
 wife and lying about it, and while Adultery is a bad and naughty thing, it is
 by no means reason for impeachment, and should only be of concern to “him, his
 wife, and his priest”.  Not a bad argument, especially for anyone like myself,
 who feels that the personal life of one individual is no business of anybody
 but himself, as long as his personal life is in no way harming or victimising
 another individual.  Since most people tend to be (or merely think of
 themselves as) rational on this level, this argument tends to hold its own.
 After all, this is a free country.
 Or is it?
 Aren’t we free to consume what we please, as long as we do not harm or
 victimise anybody else?  Yes, we are.  But then, what about the countless
 Americans that are arrested and imprisoned for using recreational drugs that
 are not deemed legal by our government?  Does the pot smoker who lives in the
 apartment next to me pose any direct threat to me or anybody else, merely
 because he is smoking pot?  Is he any more of a threat to you or me then the
 millions of people who consume legal drugs like nicotine and caffeine and
 alcohol.  People are harassed and imprisoned, their possessions confiscated
 and sold, their lives torn apart, not because they have used a mind altering
 substance for recreational purposes, but because they have used a mind
 altering substance that our government does not approve of for recreational
 purposes.
 Aren’t we free to pursue personal and intimate relationships with whomever we
 want to, as long as we do not harm or victimise anybody else in the process?
 Yes, we are.  But then, what about the countless men and women who are
 arrested and imprisoned for sleeping with one another, because one of them has
 paid the other for the privilege?  Does the prostitute standing on the street
 corner or sitting in the brothel pose any direct threat to me or anybody else,
 simply because she is offering to have sex with someone in exchange for money?
 Or the john that of his own free will offers to pay her for her services, does
 he pose any direct threat to me or anybody else, merely because he is willing
 to take her up on her offer?  Going beyond that, what about all of the gay and
 lesbian couples who are unable to legally enjoy a mutual existence the way any
 heterosexual couple can, because our government has seen fit to judge them as
 unworthy of vowing themselves to one another?  What about the gays and
 lesbians who have been told that they are not worthy of fighting and possibly
 dying for their country because of their sexual preference, but that they may
 still join as 

Re: [CTRL] A Fresh Look At Clinton

1998-12-18 Thread Reverend S. Michael Wilson

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In a message dated 12/18/98 12:09:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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 With all due respect, Reverend, I think you are confused on a number of
 key issues. The Republican party has championed the idea of trying to
 impose the Christian fundamentalist agenda on the country.  It is
 President Bill Clinton who has tried bring some measure of diversity to
 the political process ( his willingness to appoint gays and women to key
 positions in government).
  

Nope, no confusion here.  I'm not backing either the Republicans or
Democrats, so I'm not stuck in the position of having to attack Clinton
because I hate Democrats, nor do I feel obligated to defend Clinton because I
hate Republicans.  I think both sides have heads firmly placed in their
collective ass.  Let them fight out their territorial battles in an adult
version of "Shirts  Skins", I'll simply sit in the sidelines and shout my
opinions until I loose my voice or I'm dragged away by security.
As for Clinton the Crusader, isn't this is the same guy who refused to force
the military to conform to Discrimination Laws by allowing gays to join, but
instead passed the absurd "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy?  Didn't he also fire
someone on his cabinet (Surgeon General, perhaps?  My memory fails to recall
her name and position at the moment) for suggesting that facts about
masturbation be taught in school sex education classes to help prevent
teenagers from having sex at a young age?  (Not the greatest approach, I grant
you, but it certainly couldn't do any harm...)  And lets not forget his
crusade against tobacco companies, which might eventually lead to outlawing
tobacco products?  Hiring gays is fine and dandy, but not allowing them to
enjoy the same benifits has hetero couples simply because they fall into a
minority is far from helping personal freedom.
Just some more thoughts...

Cuddling my Furby in an impure manner,
Rev. S. Michael Wilson

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