Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
I am not sure if "canons" is the right word. It may not be in the Koran itself but there is some document with seven tenets, canons, laws perhaps that I saw previously (l5 years ago eg) that says exactly that: killing an "infidel" is a noble thing. Thus all the terrorism, kamikazi suicide bombings, etc. I believe the regular Muslims, like a friend from Iran that I have, do not believe this. But the fundies do. I will hunt this down. http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new?id=HolKora&tag=public&images=images/modeng&data=/lv2/english/relig/koran&part=0 - Original Message - From: Marlea Linse To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 7:08 AM Subject: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing? -Caveat Lector- -Cui Bono?-Terry,Where may one find info regarding the canons of Islam??>> PS about Islamic religion: one of their canons, I think it is the> sixth one, provides basically that if an Islamic person kills a> Christian (an "infidel") they earn a nicer spot in eternity.Thanks,Rickwww.ctrl.orgDECLARATION & DISCLAIMER==CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandicscreeds are not allowed. Substance-not soap-boxing! These are sordid mattersand 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outrightfrauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effectsspread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial andnazi's need not apply.Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.Archives Available at:http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.htmlhttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Om
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
Here is something I found having to do with their teaching on the Jihad = Muhammad, upon him be peace, was closer to them (believers) than their own selves. The (pagan) Arabs and Jews had formed a united front against them (Muhammad pbuh and his followers) and had put up all their efforts of enmity, standing and fighting against them... and (in fact) they shouted against them from every corner. Then, at that time Allah permitted them (Muhammad pbuh and his followers) the (Jihad) fighting but He did not make it obligatory. He said: Permission to fight is given to those (i.e. believers against disbelievers) who are fighting them (and) because they (believers) have been wronged, and surely Allah is Able to give them (believers) victory. Those who have been expelled from their homes unjustly only because they said:"Our Lord is Allah." (V.22:39,40). The above Verses clearly state that He (Allah) is Able to give victory to His worshippers (the believers) without fighting, but Allah wants from His worshippers obedience with all their efforts. As in His Statement: So when you meet (in fight... Jihad in Allah's Cause) those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives). Thereafter (is the time) either for generosity (i.e. free them without ransom) or ransom (according to whatbenefits Islam), until the war lays down its burden. Thus [you are ordered by Allah to continue in carrying out Jihad againstthe disbelievers till they embrace Islam (i.e. are saved from the punishment in the Hell fire) orat leastcome under your protection] but if it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight) in orderto test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost. He will guide them and set right their state. And admit them to Paradise which He has made known to them (i.e. they will know their places in Paradise more than they used to know their houses in this world). (V.47:4, 5,6). Then after that He made (Jihad) "fighting" obligatory against all those who fight you (Muslims); not against those who didn't fight you. So Allah ordered: And fight in the way of Allah those who fight you... (V.2:I9O). Then Allah (swt) revealed in Sarah Tauba (Bara 'a) (Repentance, IX) the order to discard (all) the obligations (covenants, etc.) and commanded the Muslims to fight against all the Mushrikun as well as against the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) if they do not embrace Islam, till they pay the Jizya (a tax levied on the non Muslims who do not embrace Islam and are under the protectionofanlslamicgovernment) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued (as it is revealed in the Verse 9:29). So they (Muslims) were not permitted to abandon "the fighting" against them (Pagans, Jews and Christians) and to reconcile with them and to suspend hostilities against them for an unlimited period while they are strong and are able to fight against them (non Muslims). As it is now obvious, at first "the fighting" was forbidden, then it was permitted and after that it was made obligatory- ( I ) against them who start "the fighting" against you (Muslims)... (2) and against all those who worship others along with Allah... as mentioned in SurahAI BaqaraSl (II), Al lmran (III) and Tauba (IX)... and other Sarah (Chapters of the Qur'an). Allah (swt) made "the fighting' (Jihad) obligatory for the Muslims and gave importance to the subject matter of Jihad in all the Sarah (Chapters of the Qur'an) which were revealed (at Al Madina) as in Allah's Statement: March forth whether you are light (being healthy, young and wealthy) or heavy (being ill, old and poor), strive [ hard with your wealth and your lives in the Cause of Allah. This is better for you if you but knew. (V.9:41). - Original Message - From: Foxter To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 7:13 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing? I am not sure if "canons" is the right word. It may not be in the Koran itself but there is some document with seven tenets, canons, laws perhaps that I saw previously (l5 years ago eg) that says exactly that: killing an "infidel" is a noble thing. Thus all the terrorism, kamikazi suicide bombings, etc. I believe the regular Muslims, like a friend from Iran that I have, do not believe this. But the fundies do. I will hunt this down. http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new?id=HolKora&tag=public&images=images/modeng&data=/lv2/english/relig/koran&part=0
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
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Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Marlea Linse wrote: > Where may one find info regarding the canons of Islam?? Isn't that what Gerald Bull was selling to Iraq? FWP. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- From: "Marlea Linse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Where may one find info regarding the canons of Islam?? Try reading the Koran. Something "Foxter" obviously has not done. June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
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Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- From: "Foxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To June, no I have not read the Koran. Your posts make that sorely evident. I suggest that you endeavor to get your information from the direct source, rather than filtered thru the media... I'd like to know if you can even tell us who the deity the Moslems worship is, and "Allah" is NOT an acceptable answer. Please describe IN DETAIL who this deity is, compared to the deity worshipped by Jews and Christians. Also tell us what relationship the religion of Islam has with Judaism and Christianity... June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Foxter wrote: > > ÿþ< You need to brush up on youre speling skils. J2 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> > -Cui Bono?- > > On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Marlea Linse wrote: > > > Where may one find info regarding the canons of Islam?? > > Isn't that what Gerald Bull was selling to Iraq? > FWP. I truly hate to say it Poley, but it's a good one. Joshua2 ;\ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > > > > > > >I This is a bald faced lie. Capitalizing it don't make it true. I know. I was there. So was every major paper in the country. Go to the library and read the microfilm. Don't listen to this fool. Find out for yourself which of us is telling the truth. The New Haven Panthers were charged with a murder that it later turned out had been committed by an undercover agent assisted by a paid informer. Panther founder Bobby Seale was charged with conspiracy and dragged from Oakland CA to New Haven to stand trial. It was an obvious attempted lynching. I helped organize the demo against it. 350,000 people showed up on the New Haven Green, across the street from the court house. The pigs took the hint and backed down. Read up. Then talk. That way you don't look like a fool. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- To: Nesse, et. el: RE: "Black Panther Trail" in New Haven, CT. in the 1970's: Nice Reply, I was there Too. Apparently I had a "different perspective" than you did. On the other side of the coin as it were. I am sure you are not refering to me in your post. So I will not take it as an "insult". However I know "Leftest Hillary" Has Not Changed her politics. I was a "Patriot" then just I am now. The below quote fits the situation of all the "Pseudo Intellectuals", who had the and promoted the destruction of our Country, innocient people using "Domestic or Foreign Terrorists". They are still here under different control and names. The outcome is the same and they are our enemies of the Republic. "We Are Not Amused by Pontification with Intellectual Flatulence". _ *** "De Oppresso Liber *** ~ uaicvtmb ~ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- OK - How About: Can You Describe in 25 Words or Less Who, What You Believe in and Why? I don't think so. ~ Mike ~ uaicvtmb http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- To: Retxof: When someone types on the keyboard in the wee morning hours, with a broken wrist: there are bound to have a few spelling errors. You don't catch because you are too damn tired! If the message refers to me. Plus I had serious E-Mail Problems due to the computer locking up. ~ Mike ~ uaicvtmb http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
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Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
Nessie, The following appears to attribute to me things I did not say. - Original Message - From: nessie To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing? -Caveat Lector- -Cui Bono?-[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:>>>>>>>>IThis is a bald faced lie. Capitalizing it don't make it true. I know. Iwas there. So was every major paper in the country. Go to the library andread the microfilm. Don't listen to this fool. Find out for yourself whichof us is telling the truth.The New Haven Panthers were charged with a murder that it later turned outhad been committed by an undercover agent assisted by a paid informer.Panther founder Bobby Seale was charged with conspiracy and dragged fromOakland CA to New Haven to stand trial. It was an obvious attemptedlynching. I helped organize the demo against it. 350,000 people showed upon the New Haven Green, across the street from the court house. The pigstook the hint and backed down.Read up. Then talk. That way you don't look like a fool.www.ctrl.orgDECLARATION & DISCLAIMER==CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandicscreeds are not allowed. Substance-not soap-boxing! These are sordid mattersand 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outrightfrauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effectsspread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial andnazi's need not apply.Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.Archives Available at:http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.htmlhttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Om
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >The following appears to attribute >to me things I did not say It doesn't matter who said it. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
It sure matters to me. Why do you feel it doesn't matter? [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:>>The following appears to attribute to me things I did not sayIt doesn't matter who said it
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- From: "nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The New Haven Panthers were charged with a murder that it later turned out > had been committed by an undercover agent assisted by a paid informer. I'm a native Nutmegger, and live in the New Haven metro area...so I have a singularly local perspective. The New Haven police were notoriously corrupt in those days (probably still are, but let's not go there)...a few years after the Panther trial, in the wake of Watergate, it was revealed that the New Haven police had been conducting it's own COINTELPRO program, replete with informers, infiltrators, and a wiretap of almost everyone in the state...it became sort of a badge of honor, to find one's name on the list of people whom the New Haven police had decided were worthy of being spied upon... And we're not talking just leftist activists on this list...we're talking the mayor (actually almost all the mayors of the major cities in the state), city councilmen, state legislators, local business bigwigs... And yes, it was revealed that the police put a lot of effort into infiltrating moles into various groups (some pretty innocuous groups at that, not just the obvious ones), moles who immediately agitated for violence... > I helped organize the demo against it. 350,000 people showed up > on the New Haven Green, across the street from the court house. The pigs > took the hint and backed down. Hey, we possibly could have met each other on the Green! ;-) > Read up. Then talk. That way you don't look like a fool. Watch it...Foxter will say YOU are flaming her/him/it too... June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- From: "Foxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >The following appears to attribute to me things I did not say. The only bit attributed to you were the lines beginning with '>'... Namely one line with the word 'I', and a lot of blank space... which pretty much sums up the gist of all your posts... June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
You are a liar. The only
question is are you a knowing liar or just a fool. If you are simply
ignorant I suggest that you visit these sights for some
understanding.
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/islam/islamsbook.html
http://www.peopleofallah.org/Main.html
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Foxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date:
Monday, March 27, 2000 6:11 AMSubject: Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do
something about this prosyletizing?
I am not sure if
"canons" is the right word. It may not be in the Koran
itself but there is some document with seven tenets, canons, laws perhaps
that I saw previously (l5 years ago eg) that says exactly that:
killing an "infidel" is a noble thing. Thus all the
terrorism, kamikazi suicide bombings, etc. I believe the regular
Muslims, like a friend from Iran that I have, do not believe this. But
the fundies do. I will hunt this down.
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new?id=HolKora&tag=public&images=images/modeng&data=/lv2/english/relig/koran&part=0
- Original Message -
From:
Marlea
Linse
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 7:08
AM
Subject: [CTRL] FOXTER...do
something about this prosyletizing?
-Caveat Lector- -Cui
Bono?-Terry,Where may one find info regarding the canons
of Islam??>> PS about Islamic religion: one of their
canons, I think it is the> sixth one, provides basically that if
an Islamic person kills a> Christian (an "infidel")
they earn a nicer spot in
eternity.Thanks,Rickwww.ctrl.orgDECLARATION
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Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 don't you think that's a little harsh? the only question is whether the point was true or not. it's not, so foxter was wrong. end of story. why assume they were 'lying' about it? (as your first sentence makes clear) i realize you two have been bickering for a few days now (believe me, i _love_ to read about it on this list), but come on, get over it and make your point about waco. it's hard to believe that the obviously carefully thought out message explaining what you believe that you posted this evening was typed by the same hands that produced this trash. (if people would at least have the common courtesy to take flame wars off-list...) if you don't agree w/ foxter, fine, prove otherwise, but resorting to personal attacks a) doesn't _disprove_ the other person, b) annoys and drives away people who might have been receptive to yr message, and c) makes you look childish and silly. that said, let the flamage begin... On 28 Mar 00, at 23:46, Andrew X98 wrote: > You are a liar. The only question is are you a knowing liar or just a > fool. If you are simply ignorant I suggest that you visit these sights > for some understanding. > > http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/islam/islamsbook.html > > http://www.peopleofallah.org/Main.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBOOGxGiAtoqa2D4noEQJ2lwCfYuMI51ngpIlXA1aJWxa5M8PgdpsAoISI uL8b61LKHZIuhFO7e5LVowMA =qU1v -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ 'there's no such reality as something h-h-happening' public key @ http://deep-space.dhs.org/vajdaij.asc 7796 0A29 E49E A8F2 F0CB 8666 202D A2A6 B60F 89E8 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Did you go to the sites? I have been reading your words and you don't appear to be uneducated, so why would you speak such lies. You not only stated them you went further by trying to support them. If I am wrong about this then you were just being foolish...I left the choice open for you. "Waco Protest 2000" Andrew X98 "The Watchman" The "Cover-up Church" was founded on the Sabbath 9-18-99 by Agent, Clive Doyle Waco Video: "X A True Revelation" $10.98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Children were "HACKED" to death before the fire! http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/index.html David Koresh Said: "The earthquake in Waco is not something to be taken lightly. It will probably be "the thing" needed to shake some sense into the people." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing? -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 don't you think that's a little harsh? the only question is whether the point was true or not. it's not, so foxter was wrong. end of story. why assume they were 'lying' about it? (as your first sentence makes clear) i realize you two have been bickering for a few days now (believe me, i _love_ to read about it on this list), but come on, get over it and make your point about waco. it's hard to believe that the obviously carefully thought out message explaining what you believe that you posted this evening was typed by the same hands that produced this trash. (if people would at least have the common courtesy to take flame wars off-list...) if you don't agree w/ foxter, fine, prove otherwise, but resorting to personal attacks a) doesn't _disprove_ the other person, b) annoys and drives away people who might have been receptive to yr message, and c) makes you look childish and silly. that said, let the flamage begin... On 28 Mar 00, at 23:46, Andrew X98 wrote: > You are a liar. The only question is are you a knowing liar or just a > fool. If you are simply ignorant I suggest that you visit these sights > for some understanding. > > http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/islam/islamsbook.html > > http://www.peopleofallah.org/Main.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBOOGxGiAtoqa2D4noEQJ2lwCfYuMI51ngpIlXA1aJWxa5M8PgdpsAoISI uL8b61LKHZIuhFO7e5LVowMA =qU1v -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ 'there's no such reality as something h-h-happening' public key @ http://deep-space.dhs.org/vajdaij.asc 7796 0A29 E49E A8F2 F0CB 8666 202D A2A6 B60F 89E8 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com
Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?
What did I write that you
feel is a lie?
- Original Message -
From:
Andrew X98
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 12:46
AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something
about this prosyletizing?
You are a liar. The only
question is are you a knowing liar or just a fool. If you are simply
ignorant I suggest that you visit these sights for some
understanding.
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/islam/islamsbook.html
http://www.peopleofallah.org/Main.html
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Foxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:
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Monday, March 27, 2000 6:11 AMSubject: Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do
something about this prosyletizing?
I am not sure if
"canons" is the right word. It may not be in the Koran itself but
there is some document with seven tenets, canons, laws perhaps that I saw
previously (l5 years ago eg) that says exactly that: killing an
"infidel" is a noble thing. Thus all the terrorism, kamikazi suicide
bombings, etc. I believe the regular Muslims, like a friend from Iran
that I have, do not believe this. But the fundies do. I will
hunt this down.
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new?id=HolKora&tag=public&images=images/modeng&data=/lv2/english/relig/koran&part=0
- Original Message -
From:
Marlea Linse
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Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 7:08
AM
Subject: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something
about this prosyletizing?
-Caveat Lector- -Cui
Bono?-Terry,Where may one find info regarding the canons
of Islam??>> PS about Islamic religion: one of their canons,
I think it is the> sixth one, provides basically that if an Islamic
person kills a> Christian (an "infidel") they earn a nicer spot in
eternity.Thanks,Rickwww.ctrl.orgDECLARATION &
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