Re: [CTRL] Greenies want you Dead - STUPIDITY
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:09:49 -0700 Steve Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- On 21 Apr 01, at 9:44, ArkAngel wrote: If you two have a personal issue with each other, why put it on the list, that is not fair to us who have to go through all this and then see a scrap like this. There are more important things to read you know. Ivan, The reason I responded to Duncan's flames on this list is because I believe it is important to publicly confront those who constantly exhibit bad behavior. It is not ok in my opinion to just let it drop when it (the flames) occur again and again. Apparently the moderator does not care or perhaps does not have the time to do this, that is their perogative. But it seems the least we can expect on a list is at leawst a minimum level of netiquite. I just returned from camping in the Grand Canyon and it is amazing how a trip like that makes you more aware of the extreme degree that humans abuse and attack one another needlessly. Things are bad enough without these completely unnecessary and hateful attacks. Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Greenies want you Dead - STUPIDITY
-Caveat Lector- bye bye Steve I don't plan on leaving, Duncan. :) You should read your quotes more carefully: "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Greenies want you Dead - STUPIDITY
-Caveat Lector- One thing that the Greenies and the other Right and Left wing socialists can't stand is for one of their own to wise up and begin to blow the whistle on their whole fraud. Duncan started somewhere near the bottom, probably as a result of the government schools and the controlled media and has now risen to the top. There is no Magazine to compare to Nexus for valid and truthful information. Yours very truly, Cliff Hume - Canada. At 05:17 PM 4/21/01 +1100, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- Duncan, you never cease to amaze; how many times in a single post you can flame someone. Even when I agree with you, your behavior is quite disagreable. Didn't you mother in New Zealand teach you any manners? I thought New Zealanders were more civilized than the Aussies, but now I'm wondering. Steve Ah Steve Wingate, the guy who kicked me off his forum for daring to challenge the 'all soy products are good for you' mantra. One would think he must be getting kickbacks from all those soy transnational corporations he loves to support. How about telling your UFO group the other side of the story Steve? Yes Steve, I let fly with a flame. Being a greenie myself, and noting the rising tide of 'all greenies are part of the new world order' bullshit, I thought I would let off some testosterone. And by the way, I am an Aussie, but then all that soy you eat must have made you forget. And as for flaming - you should read your own emails some time. I realise you have a personal issue with me, so why not make it personal and communicate directly with your hangups. That way we boys don't have to take up the space and time of more mature people out there. bye bye Steve Duncan Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Greenies want you Dead - STUPIDITY
-Caveat Lector- If you two have a personal issue with each other, why put it on the list, that is not fair to us who have to go through all this and then see a scrap like this. There are more important things to read you know. As to soy, soy can benefit you in many ways, and I suppose it could harm you in many ways. You will find, that if you overindulge in anything it could be harmful. Not only with soy, but with any product. I eat soy products and it has never hurt me at all, not once, but then I do not rely on that source totally. For you to pick on Steve in another zone is unfair. I believe you should keep personal things personal. However that is only my opinion. I rarely speak up on things, but this sparked me as rude and confrontational. Ivan - Original Message - From: "nexusmagazine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 1:17 AM Subject: [CTRL] Greenies want you Dead - STUPIDITY -Caveat Lector- Duncan, you never cease to amaze; how many times in a single post you can flame someone. Even when I agree with you, your behavior is quite disagreable. Didn't you mother in New Zealand teach you any manners? I thought New Zealanders were more civilized than the Aussies, but now I'm wondering. Steve Ah Steve Wingate, the guy who kicked me off his forum for daring to challenge the 'all soy products are good for you' mantra. One would think he must be getting kickbacks from all those soy transnational corporations he loves to support. How about telling your UFO group the other side of the story Steve? Yes Steve, I let fly with a flame. Being a greenie myself, and noting the rising tide of 'all greenies are part of the new world order' bullshit, I thought I would let off some testosterone. And by the way, I am an Aussie, but then all that soy you eat must have made you forget. And as for flaming - you should read your own emails some time. I realise you have a personal issue with me, so why not make it personal and communicate directly with your hangups. That way we boys don't have to take up the space and time of more mature people out there. bye bye Steve Duncan Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 4/18/2001 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A
Re: [CTRL] Greenies want you Dead - STUPIDITY
-Caveat Lector- On 21 Apr 01, at 9:44, ArkAngel wrote: If you two have a personal issue with each other, why put it on the list, that is not fair to us who have to go through all this and then see a scrap like this. There are more important things to read you know. Ivan, The reason I responded to Duncan's flames on this list is because I believe it is important to publicly confront those who constantly exhibit bad behavior. It is not ok in my opinion to just let it drop when it (the flames) occur again and again. Apparently the moderator does not care or perhaps does not have the time to do this, that is their perogative. But it seems the least we can expect on a list is at leawst a minimum level of netiquite. I just returned from camping in the Grand Canyon and it is amazing how a trip like that makes you more aware of the extreme degree that humans abuse and attack one another needlessly. Things are bad enough without these completely unnecessary and hateful attacks. Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Greenies want you Dead - STUPIDITY
In a message dated 4/21/01 2:10:14 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just returned from camping in the Grand Canyon and it is amazing how a trip like that makes you more aware of the extreme degree that humans abuse and attack one another needlessly. I think your time in the wilderness has made you hypersensitive actually...Duncan is a good guy and his magazine,Nexus, is great. Bill.
Re: [CTRL] Greenies want you Dead - STUPIDITY
-Caveat Lector- On 21 Apr 01, at 15:14, William Shannon wrote: I think your time in the wilderness has made you hypersensitive actually...Duncan is a good guy and his magazine,Nexus, is great. Bill. So I guess that gives him the right to flame others on this list, calling them idiots and the like. If that is what Grand Canyon hiking makes me aware of, then I'm glad I'm going back soon. Sometimes I cannot understand the perverted logic that some here use, that allows certain people to publicly abuse others and be praised for their ugly actions. Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Greenies want you Dead - STUPIDITY
-Caveat Lector- Duncan, you never cease to amaze; how many times in a single post you can flame someone. Even when I agree with you, your behavior is quite disagreable. Didn't you mother in New Zealand teach you any manners? I thought New Zealanders were more civilized than the Aussies, but now I'm wondering. Steve On 21 Apr 01, at 10:40, nexusmagazine wrote: -Caveat Lector- by Brad Edmonds Believe it. There is no other statement that fully explains the collected behavior and assertions of all the animal rightsers... There are plenty of other statements available, but not to closed minded, stereo consumers like yourself. Leftists themselves, at least under the influence of sodium pentothal (dont ask how I know about that), would agree with me completely after consideration of the items below. Maybe you should check - they don't agree with you. Item: Any time a new development in biotechnology is announced, it is protested. The most common and visible examples involve Frankenfoods, those horrors (to the -niks; to me theyre miracles) such as corn that doesnt require extensive pesticide application. Wrong. And these miracles you mention - do you not know that you and thousands of others are dying from the pesticides we were once told were safe? Maybe you should read a bit more than the cartoons and editorials of conservative propaganda rags. As for genetically modified food, there is NO other incentive apart from profit and monopolisation of seed lines. You dummy!!! Item: No more greenhouse gases. Juxtapose this with globetrotting efforts by the greenies to prevent the construction of hydroelectric dams. Simplist crap! There are plenty of sane alternatives and more efficient at that, than hydro, nuclear or fossil fuel sources. But, the monopolies will not get behind them, as their profits are reduced. And, by the way, these alternatives DO work, are eco safe and are already being used in some corners. Cold fusion is but one example of many. Item: Greenies of the animals-first variety want no more animal skins furs, leather, even wool used to shield us from the elements or to adorn us. They prefer "fake furs." Im reminded by a reader that fake furs are made of petroleum derivatives. Petroleum derivatives mean exploring, drilling, and yes, once in a great while, oil spills. How wrong you are. Greenies don't protest wool. They just think it is silly to hunt species to extinction (minks) for egomaniacal women to wear their skins. Leather is not protested by greenies. Hemp is a better alternatvie to cotton. Where do you get your opinions? From fridge magnets? Who was there to denounce the Valdez spill? Mouse huggers, displaying deceased animals blah blah blah Oh pulse - even my 6 year old has better logic circuits. This will require enormous expansion of the cotton industry, meaning more land exposed to erosion, and demand for biotechnology to make more cotton from less land. They wont allow that. What are we to do? My answer: The greenies want us naked. Benefit: Well die faster, thus need less food and electricity. Hurrah! Crap crap crap - who pays you to write this garbage. Greenies advocate industrial hemp over cotton. Look, sure there are some green groups which are mouthpieces for NWOrderists, and some which are mouthpieces for industry lobby groups. But your simplistic garbage shows your ignorance, closedmindedness and stupidity. Worse still, it adds to the division and conquer mentality permeating society. Go read something more than Rush Limbaugh's daily tripe, or whatever it is you get your silliness from. Duncan Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A
