Re: [CTRL] To your corners......

2000-03-27 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 >Now that's a novel argument...which must surely have been designed by
> >the
>> conspirators to create more division by prompting people such as
>> myself to
> >question your motives by trying to direct people away from seeking
>> out the
>> complete truth

>Say WHAT?

Forgive the lack of clarity, or rather the incomprehensibility. A late
night

I think what I was trying to say was that the claim that by "arguing and
quibbling over small details, you are playing into the hands of the
conspirators" was a bit rich if not bizarre. If anything, it is a call for
ideological unity, for all of us be committed to the big picture and to
interpret concerns over the details as sinister attempts at sabotaging the
precious consensus - or at least an activity which supports the
"conspirators".

I find that attitude dangerous because, first, it negates and rejects
counter-views on political grounds, and second,  it obstructs the legitimate
quest for the truth by asserting that we already know it - although I would
contend that we don't - and that further consideration is counter-productive.
And I suppose finally I would question whether "we" were a unified "movement"
anyway, but just a lot of people with different views on similar topics...

Hope that's a bit clearer.

BD.

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Re: [CTRL] To your corners......

2000-03-25 Thread Tenorlove

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From: uaicvtmb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Well, my dh (dear husband or d*ck-head depending on how he's behaving!)
agrees with you (and how would you know??), but my handle is Tenorlove,
as in opera fan!

Tenorlove
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Re: [CTRL] To your corners......

2000-03-25 Thread uaicvtmb

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FYI The Term "White Trash" can be used for
All the Individuals who are unlucky enough to
be Traitors to Constitution and We the People
in the Declaration of Independence. You may
List the : CFR, Illuminitti, Socialist - Stalinist, any
of the N.W.O. , U.N., WTO, WHO, Supporters.
Etc. That explainition should be sufficient for you.
Thanks for your time and considertion.
~ Mike ~

U.A.I.C.-VT.
BTW - My Intention in Reading / Posting
Here is NOT to Start Any "War of the Words".

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Re: [CTRL] To your corners......

2000-03-25 Thread Andrew X98

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I agree. I was beginning to think that there was no one of mind enough to
talk or discuss this most important "Unsolved" crime, which is the most
pregnant Conspiracy of our time. I have been foolish to engage in this
emotionalism. I have noticed this problem in other approaches that I have
been taking. Thank you for pulling me up on some very foolish behavior.

What do you mean by "White Trash", the poor? ZOG? Nazi? KKK?
JDL? Republican? Democrat? or just simply Bill Clinton?



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lightly. It will probably be "the thing" needed to shake some sense into the
people."

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Date: Saturday, March 25, 2000 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] To your corners..


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> -Cui Bono?-
>
>TO: Tenderlove:
>RE: The "War of the Words":
>*
>
>Well, At Least Someone else with Common Sense Agrees
>with me. Petty "Verbal Tit-For-Tat" Feuds in Writing Clog Up
>this Site. Waste other's time reading this "High School"
>style debating skill nonsense.
>
>To: The "Fueding Couple":
>**
> If you want to "waste each other's time" that's your privilage
>and right. But Don't Expect the Rest of the Adults Here to Put
>Up With It.! Go to a Chat room or on the phone or snail mail.
>While you two are in a "pissing match" you alienate the rest of
>us and play into the hands of the very Liberal White Trash we
>all Loathe. Personally, I didn't subscribe to this "site" to listen
>to a "ping-pong" word exchange. Now Cool Off - for a while.
>That's my "not so humble opinion". **De Oppresso Liber**
>
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Re: [CTRL] To your corners......

2000-03-25 Thread uaicvtmb

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TO: Tenderlove:
RE: The "War of the Words":
*

Well, At Least Someone else with Common Sense Agrees
with me. Petty "Verbal Tit-For-Tat" Feuds in Writing Clog Up
this Site. Waste other's time reading this "High School"
style debating skill nonsense.

To: The "Fueding Couple":
**
 If you want to "waste each other's time" that's your privilage
and right. But Don't Expect the Rest of the Adults Here to Put
Up With It.! Go to a Chat room or on the phone or snail mail.
While you two are in a "pissing match" you alienate the rest of
us and play into the hands of the very Liberal White Trash we
all Loathe. Personally, I didn't subscribe to this "site" to listen
to a "ping-pong" word exchange. Now Cool Off - for a while.
That's my "not so humble opinion". **De Oppresso Liber**

~ UnAmerican Activities Investigation Commission - Vermont ~


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Re: [CTRL] To your corners......

2000-03-25 Thread Tara

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I agree 100%. It's because of constant prosyletizing that Ali's posts make
me so angry. I have my own feelings about David Koresh, and they're at odds
with his. I agree that there may very well be a government conspiracy
involved in all of this. But Andrew has Koresh is Christ'ed me to absolute
anger and disgust. This is not the only list he's been on doing his
preaching, and I've watched him insult and accuse everyone who disagrees
with him of being a cop, and tell them that they'll burn in hell, that they
are responsible for killing the children at Branch Davidian. I will not
argue with him anymore. I will consider him a waste of my time. But If he
libels people I know, or insults others on the list, I will respond.

Tara

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Could we all agree to a sort of "I won't tell you about my religious beliefs
if you do not tell me about yours?"  I will further spare you those of some
of my neighbors and distant relatives and on and on.  On this list religion
should only be discussed in the context of conspiracies, not the "error of
our ways and beliefs".  I think we are all thinking people and have long ago
established our belief systems. I have yet to see a conversion on list!
Rarely even a change in opinion as we all tend to be rather opinionated,
too.  In other words, this is the proverbial "wrong tree" to bark up
religion.

Oh for the days of aluminum jackets and caps and room linings.  The good old
days of sleuth and stealth and more than meets the eye.  The unearthing of
hidden connections and plots afoot!  Now it is like a scanning across AM
radio in rural areas on Sunday morning--all sorts of voices with all sorts
of messages  preaching.

This just is NOT the list for all of this religion.  If folks insist on
continuing to swamp the list with these posts, perhaps each of us should
write them off list and "share" our beliefs, traditions, concerns and all
aspects of our religious life with them.  It is arrogant to assume to
enlighten others in this area when they do not wish to be enlightened, let
alone sold something.
Amelia

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Re: [CTRL] To your corners......

2000-03-25 Thread Amelia

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Could we all agree to a sort of "I won't tell you about my religious beliefs
if you do not tell me about yours?"  I will further spare you those of some
of my neighbors and distant relatives and on and on.  On this list religion
should only be discussed in the context of conspiracies, not the "error of
our ways and beliefs".  I think we are all thinking people and have long ago
established our belief systems. I have yet to see a conversion on list!
Rarely even a change in opinion as we all tend to be rather opinionated,
too.  In other words, this is the proverbial "wrong tree" to bark up
religion.

Oh for the days of aluminum jackets and caps and room linings.  The good old
days of sleuth and stealth and more than meets the eye.  The unearthing of
hidden connections and plots afoot!  Now it is like a scanning across AM
radio in rural areas on Sunday morning--all sorts of voices with all sorts
of messages  preaching.

This just is NOT the list for all of this religion.  If folks insist on
continuing to swamp the list with these posts, perhaps each of us should
write them off list and "share" our beliefs, traditions, concerns and all
aspects of our religious life with them.  It is arrogant to assume to
enlighten others in this area when they do not wish to be enlightened, let
alone sold something.
Amelia

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Re: [CTRL] To your corners......

2000-03-25 Thread Tenorlove

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--- "[to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Now that's a novel argument...which must surely have been designed by
> the
> conspirators to create more division by prompting people such as
> myself to
> question your motives by trying to direct people away from seeking
> out the
> complete truth

Say WHAT?

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Re: [CTRL] To your corners......

2000-03-25 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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>By arguing and quibbling over small details, you are playing into the
>hands of the conspirators.

Now that's a novel argument...which must surely have been designed by the
conspirators to create more division by prompting people such as myself to
question your motives by trying to direct people away from seeking out the
complete truth

>Small details (in the grand perspective)
>like who belongs to what "cult" and details of religious practice, are
>red herrings, designed BY the people who perpetuated the crimes against
>the Branch Davidians, in order to keep you from focusing on the
>important matters, exposing the criminals and bringing them to justice.

>Tenorlove

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