Re: [CTRL] Tooth faeries, Khazars, and Poley.
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Tenorlove wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- --- Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But not everyone sees their tribe as defined by clan or race or religion or nationality. Hadn't considered that; I had defined "tribe" more tightly. It seems that " tribalism " is an out growth of the biological or social necessity of identifying the " other " or potentially threatening outsider. All social animals have this. Herd animals, pack animals, and clan animals like anthropoids. Tribalism, xenophobia, and post exhilic anti-Semitism are all expressions of this basic phenomenon. This is such a powerful " drive " that it operates even within a particular group. Dark and light skinned Blacks. Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews. Protestant and Catholic Irish. And...Orthodox, Muslim, and Catholic Southern ( Yugo ) Slavs. It was obviously a primary development in human history. The Bible describes an early development in the forms of clans and tribes. Then came the development clan/nation/states. Then geographical City States. Then nationalist states. And now Superstates. What does it mean to be an American? There is no American race, religion, language, or clan. But people who don't identify PRIMARILY as another " tribe " i.e. Mexican, African, Chinese, Korean, wind up expressing the tribal urge as American. The Superstate appears to be the outer limit of what tribalism can recognize as tribal. This is what I base my belief in the ultimate failure of the New World Order upon. This is why Universal Communism failed as well. The ideas are too big and vague and diffuse to replace the more definitive tribal values of " race," religion, nationalism, occupation, or class. The backlash against globalization is proof that I'm on the right track. Islamic fundamentalism is the expression of a religious backlash. Isolationism, and the issue of sovereignty is the expression of a nationalistic backlash. And " worker's rights ", and democracy movements are the expressions of occupational, and class based backlash against the " Elites " who are the driving force behind globalization. I hope this helped. Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Tooth faeries, Khazars, and Poley.
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Except for J2 whose ancestor was a mutant. FWP. On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Tenorlove wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- If I remember correctly, haven't both the creationists AND the evolutionists ultimately decided that we all come from a common ancestor? If that is the case, then tribalism is a moot point. Tenorlove shuddering to think she's married to a [WAY BACK IN TIME DISTANT] relative :-P __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Tooth faeries, Khazars, and Poley.
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- - This is the same technique used to trace the Kohan genes from European Jews to the descendants of Aaron back past the Roman expulsions in 1st century Judea. Ex-Khazar Joshua2 Geneticists find Irish are a race apart Emerald Isle westerners share unique Y chromosome type March 22 - Irish geneticists have used surnames and the male Y chromosome to reconstruct a 1,000-year-old genetic map of Ireland that shows the Irish really are a race apart. When will people stop fulminating this Racist Nonsense? We are all Homo Sapien, out of Africa a long time ago with some superficial differences due to environmental factors. This Racist Differentialism is sick, weird, and depressing. Bad enough having to deal with the Nazis / Socialists / Statists. flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Tooth faeries, Khazars, and Poley.
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Listen up dog breath. Just because you and every yappy chuahaha (sp?) have the same genes on your Y chromosomes does not mean that you descend from the same ancestral wild canine thousands of years ago. However, it does mean you are missing a lot of the alleles for intelligence. FWP. On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Nurev Ind Research wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- This is the same technique used to trace the Kohan genes from European Jews to the descendants of Aaron back past the Roman expulsions in 1st century Judea. This method is a valuable tool now being applied in many ways including the one below. This puts to end the idiotic and pathetic theories of those who would make Jews not Jews but Khazars who have no claim on the Bible or the " People of the Book." This method can also be used to debunk the MANY theories which exist as to who are the modern descendants of the " Lost Tribes." If there are no genetic markers showing Kohan genes in the populations making the claim, then they just aint got the right stuff. Wishful thinking does not an " Israelite " make. What are you going to do with this one Poley? How will you EVER double-talk your way out of this? You don't have the balls to admit you are a wrongheaded bigot, even in the face of genetic evidence. Waitng with baited breath, Ex-Khazar Joshua2 Geneticists find Irish are a race apart Emerald Isle westerners share unique Y chromosome type March 22 Irish geneticists have used surnames and the male Y chromosome to reconstruct a 1,000-year-old genetic map of Ireland that shows the Irish really are a race apart. WHEN YOU look at this old genetic geography of Ireland what you find is that in the West (of the country) we are almost exclusively of one type of Y chromosome, Daniel Bradley said Wednesday. The Y chromosome is passed down exclusively from father to son. It is a favorite of geneticists because it accentuates differences between populations. It is inherited as a unit so the information you get from it is of a special type, Bradley said. Bradley and his colleagues at Trinity College in Dublin examined the Y chromosomes of men with Gaelic surnames in the western-most province of Connaught, and found that 98.3 percent had a group of genes on the Y chromosome known as haplogroup 1. When you look at Gaelic surnames they are different in frequency of Y chromosome types from non-Gaelic surnames, Bradley said. In a report in the science journal Nature, he and his colleagues said that even within Ireland they found differences. Exploring our roots More than 98 percent of men with Gaelic names in western Ireland had haplogroup 1 but numbers dropped drastically on the east of the Emerald Isle. Much further east in Turkey only 1.8 percent of men carry haplogroup 1. Ireland may tell us something about European diversity because it is on the edge of Europe. Genetic diversity follows geography to some extent, Bradley said. The researchers said there is a gradient of haplogroup 1 across Europe starting at almost zero in the Far East to almost 100 percent in the west of Ireland. One of the most likely explanations for this is that farming, which was invented about 10,000 years ago in the near East and caused a fundamental revolution in the way humans lived, spread over across Europe with time but only arrived in western Ireland about 6,000 years ago. Ireland has been relatively untouched by this and the other great demographic movements because of its location That gives us the ability to look at the west and surnames and to get a snapshot of what early European genetics may have been like, Bradley said. © 2000 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] Tooth faeries, Khazars, and Poley.
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Tenorlove wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- If I remember correctly, haven't both the creationists AND the evolutionists ultimately decided that we all come from a common ancestor? Interestingly worded. The creationists believe we all come from Adam and Eve which is only a legend and has no bearing on reality. Evolutionists could say we all evolved from a particular bacterium and would probably be right. But we are talking about a much later point in evolution where we branched off and became proto humans. If that is the case, then tribalism is a moot point. Not at all. Tribalism was for most of our history an evolutionary necessity and is to this day a biological fact. Everyone is tribal. But not everyone sees their tribe as defined by clan or race or religion or nationality. Doctors may see themselves as part of the " doctor tribe " and not as part of the Jewish tribe or African descendant tribe. The best example is that of the " elites." They see themselves as members of the elite tribe who are defined by great wealth and feel that only they should run the show. By this example, the Rothschilds may be of Jewish extraction and may have Jewish interests, but they have more in common with other members of their tribe like the Rockerfellers ( Baptists ), the Sultan of Brunai ( Moslem ), and the Angellis ( Catholic ). And even the Pope who is the head of a particular religious tribe and operates among the tribe of elites. Joshua2 Tenorlove shuddering to think she's married to a [WAY BACK IN TIME DISTANT] relative :-P __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Tooth faeries, Khazars, and Poley.
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I know that we are not acquainted. However I am sure you will agree that minor arguements will not solve differences of opinion. And major one's start "wars" of which on e-mail serves no usefull purpose ! A lot of which can be just ignored - especially on the "list groups". Because most people by a certain stage in life will already have their minds made up. No matter that to you or me they may be totally "wrong" in their opinion ! Of course there is no way you can use a "bull horn" on someone that is "Bull Headed". Catch my Drift? Remember, no matter what was said, it is not worth a trip to the Hospital over it ! Perhaps you should retitle Subject as: " Tooth Faeries, Bazaars, and Pfooy !" ~ uaicvtmb ~ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Tooth faeries, Khazars, and Poley.
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- --- Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But not everyone sees their tribe as defined by clan or race or religion or nationality. Hadn't considered that; I had defined "tribe" more tightly. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Tooth faeries, Khazars, and Poley.
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- If I remember correctly, haven't both the creationists AND the evolutionists ultimately decided that we all come from a common ancestor? If that is the case, then tribalism is a moot point. Tenorlove shuddering to think she's married to a [WAY BACK IN TIME DISTANT] relative :-P __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
