Re: [CTRL] Traditions and Doctrines
-Caveat Lector- Hello Lyn, I only wanted to ask you if the posting is what you believe. I know many people who I discuss various myths and the website you mentioned is one of them. But if you favor the info as closer to the truth than what the bible has offered, that is of course your free choice. I never had a problem believing the bible, only because I believe in God. I do believe God is able to preserve His word to man through this book which has been long argued over. Perhaps we can discuss further this most interesting and more over, important topic. I would look forward to the opportunity, if you are open for such. Harry -- From: Lyn McCloskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Traditions and Doctrines Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 9:55 AM -Caveat Lector- My posting this article does not necessarily imply either an endorsement of or a disagreement with its contents, but I do think it's very interesting. Truth is not some cheap thing and therefore, whatever it is, it's most likely NOT what we have been spoon-fed our entire life by giant hierarchies of control (a.k.a. government, religion, media). What's the difference between what you believe, and what you know? Caution: May cause profound cognitive dissonance :) --- from http://www.hiddenmeanings.com TRADITIONS AND DOCTRINES The things that we have always accepted as doctrine and have incorporated into our way of life as tradition, my in fact mean something quite different then we have been led to believe. Take a look at some of these things that have become traditions to us and see where we may have actually overlooked a healing truth by taking these things literally at the insistence of our religious teachers. See what you think. INDEX WHY IS BAPTISM WRONG ? HOLY COMMUNION BEGAN AS CANNIBALISM CIRCUMCISION, WHY IS IT IN THE BIBLE ? WHY WAS CIRCUMCISION REQUIRED IN THE BIBLE CHRISTIANITY DISAGREES WITH THE BIBLE EATING PORK THE KING WHO KILLED THE LITTLE CHILDREN BORN AGAIN THE TRADITIONAL FAMILY, A DYING EVIL ? WAS OUR LADY OF FATIMA, A MUSLIM ? HELL IS NOT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY RELIGION CULTS AND CULT LEADERS ARE SATAN GOD THE SAME PERSON ? WHY WAS JESUS CRUCIFIED ? WHY WAS JESUS BETRAYED FOR 30 PIECES OF SILVER ? KARMA BLOW THE SHOFAR BACK TO INDEX TO MASTER INDEX BACK TO HOME PAGE WHAT'S WRONG WITH BAPTISM ? What's wrong with Baptism is the problem that the Bible itself realized and thus warned us against it. We fail to understand it's true meaning. We thus dip our head in water and think we are pleasing some God. God becomes excited because our head is wet.? Isn't that silly.? In Hebrews 6:1 the Bible admonishes us to get away from Baptism. The reason is because by taking the symbol literally we miss the power of real Baptism. In Greek there are 5 stages of consciousness. The lowest which is the lower mind is Earth, the next which is meditation is Water, the third which is the separation from thought is Air, the fourth which is the encounter with God is fire and the 5th is the new mind. Thus true Baptism is taking the Earth (head), into the water (meditation) rising into the air (separating from thought), being touched by fire (God) and receiving a new mind. This is the Baptism that Christianity knows nothing about and why the Bible told them to stop. Notice the third stage is Air. That is why the Bible says we will rise and meet Jesus in the Air. In Consciousness ! So would true Baptism be the renewing of the mind by raising ones consciousness or getting ones head wet ? HOLY COMMUNION Before the time of Osiris the tribes took Holy Communion in a very special way. The wisest person in the tribe was sacrificed for the common good. After the person was killed, the tribe ate him/her. They believed that by eating the flesh and blood of the wisest person, they would become wise too. The advent of Osiris is credited with having ended communion in the form of cannibalism. Osiris was believed to rise from death in the form of wheat. They would make bread from the wheat and beer from the barley. Thus taking the flesh and blood of Osiris was by taking the bread and the beer. When this spread to Greece the God Osiris was replaced by the Greek God Dionysus who was the God of wine. Thus taking the flesh and blood of God in communion was by taking the bread and wine which continues to this day. Of course we know that the New Testament was written in Greek. Now may we better understand the origin of the words of Jesus in John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. CIRCUMCISION There is a great deal of debate over the physical aspects of circumcision Regardless of the medical value, we must again fall back on 1 Cor 15:50 in realizing that
Re: [CTRL] Traditions and Doctrines
-Caveat Lector- I would be curious about what you think of this. http://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/EducationReligionandPropoganda.htm Laura AKA The Pied Piper http://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/Intro2.htm -Original Message- From: Harry Hendrickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Traditions and Doctrines -Caveat Lector- Hello Lyn, I only wanted to ask you if the posting is what you believe. I know many people who I discuss various myths and the website you mentioned is one of them. But if you favor the info as closer to the truth than what the bible has offered, that is of course your free choice. I never had a problem believing the bible, only because I believe in God. I do believe God is able to preserve His word to man through this book which has been long argued over. Perhaps we can discuss further this most interesting and more over, important topic. I would look forward to the opportunity, if you are open for such. Harry -- From: Lyn McCloskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Traditions and Doctrines Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 9:55 AM -Caveat Lector- My posting this article does not necessarily imply either an endorsement of or a disagreement with its contents, but I do think it's very interesting. Truth is not some cheap thing and therefore, whatever it is, it's most likely NOT what we have been spoon-fed our entire life by giant hierarchies of control (a.k.a. government, religion, media). What's the difference between what you believe, and what you know? Caution: May cause profound cognitive dissonance :) --- from http://www.hiddenmeanings.com TRADITIONS AND DOCTRINES The things that we have always accepted as doctrine and have incorporated into our way of life as tradition, my in fact mean something quite different then we have been led to believe. Take a look at some of these things that have become traditions to us and see where we may have actually overlooked a healing truth by taking these things literally at the insistence of our religious teachers. See what you think. INDEX WHY IS BAPTISM WRONG ? HOLY COMMUNION BEGAN AS CANNIBALISM CIRCUMCISION, WHY IS IT IN THE BIBLE ? WHY WAS CIRCUMCISION REQUIRED IN THE BIBLE CHRISTIANITY DISAGREES WITH THE BIBLE EATING PORK THE KING WHO KILLED THE LITTLE CHILDREN BORN AGAIN THE TRADITIONAL FAMILY, A DYING EVIL ? WAS OUR LADY OF FATIMA, A MUSLIM ? HELL IS NOT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY RELIGION CULTS AND CULT LEADERS ARE SATAN GOD THE SAME PERSON ? WHY WAS JESUS CRUCIFIED ? WHY WAS JESUS BETRAYED FOR 30 PIECES OF SILVER ? KARMA BLOW THE SHOFAR BACK TO INDEX TO MASTER INDEX BACK TO HOME PAGE WHAT'S WRONG WITH BAPTISM ? What's wrong with Baptism is the problem that the Bible itself realized and thus warned us against it. We fail to understand it's true meaning. We thus dip our head in water and think we are pleasing some God. God becomes excited because our head is wet.? Isn't that silly.? In Hebrews 6:1 the Bible admonishes us to get away from Baptism. The reason is because by taking the symbol literally we miss the power of real Baptism. In Greek there are 5 stages of consciousness. The lowest which is the lower mind is Earth, the next which is meditation is Water, the third which is the separation from thought is Air, the fourth which is the encounter with God is fire and the 5th is the new mind. Thus true Baptism is taking the Earth (head), into the water (meditation) rising into the air (separating from thought), being touched by fire (God) and receiving a new mind. This is the Baptism that Christianity knows nothing about and why the Bible told them to stop. Notice the third stage is Air. That is why the Bible says we will rise and meet Jesus in the Air. In Consciousness ! So would true Baptism be the renewing of the mind by raising ones consciousness or getting ones head wet ? HOLY COMMUNION Before the time of Osiris the tribes took Holy Communion in a very special way. The wisest person in the tribe was sacrificed for the common good. After the person was killed, the tribe ate him/her. They believed that by eating the flesh and blood of the wisest person, they would become wise too. The advent of Osiris is credited with having ended communion in the form of cannibalism. Osiris was believed to rise from death in the form of wheat. They would make bread from the wheat and beer from the barley. Thus taking the flesh and blood of Osiris was by taking the bread and the beer. When this spread to Greece the God Osiris was replaced by the Greek God Dionysus who was the God of wine. Thus taking the flesh and blood of God in communion was by taking the bread and wine which continues to this day. Of course we know that the New Testament was written
