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From: N J Francis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not you, although you might belong to the cat. :-) As I understand it, the cat is not considered to be property, it is not owned by you or anyone. In contrast, I do own my dog. All this 'nobody owns their cat' stuff is all very quaint and trendy - but quite frankly bollocks. The fact is my cat belongs to me. It is my property as much as any 'domestic' living animal I may have is my property. If anyone steals it I see no difference to stealing anything else off me. Same for anyone unlawfully killing it. Neil Francis Trowbridge, UK Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: nick royall, [EMAIL PROTECTED] A dog, like a horse is a domestic animal. A cat is a wild animal so you cannot do anything about next door's cat shi--ing in your garden wheras if the next door's dog does the same they are culpable. Nick Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: Pete Ansbro, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been carrying this information for many years and now seems as good a time as any to roll it out. Road kill dogs are the responsibility of the Highway Authority, whereas road kill cats are the responsibility of the Environmental Health Authority for the area. If this has changed since I ceased to work for a highways authority about 12 years ago, perhaps someone will let me know then I can forget all about it. Pete -- Fascinating! Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "Brian Toller", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Incorrect. It is because a dog is *property* whereas a cat is not. What? - So who does my cat belong to then? Wrong way round. You own a dog but feed a cat. If your lucky it deigns to live in your house. Brian T Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Conversly I know of a case where a breeder of Guinea Fowl was convicted of criminal damage to a cat (owned by his neighbour) who he found stalking the birds running wild in his garden. He shot and killed the cat with an airgun on his own property so did not contravene firearms laws or animal cruelty laws (having killed the cat humanely). Obviously the court came to the conclusion that a a domestic cat was property in this case. Also the breeder of the guinea fowl was rather foolish in having the birds loose in the back garden only protected or contained by light meshing. Regards Jerry Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In response to recent postings on this subject, I though I might add that; during my police training we were taught that you had to report accidents to the police involving livestock and dogs, because they were property, whereas, cats were not considered to be property. Given the nature of cats this is understandable as they appear to own the owner, as it were, and not the other way around as in dogs, where a dog show absolute loyalty to its master. Cats were also considered vermin. Regards, Paul Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: Neil Francis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I heard nothing more about it. -- You would have done if it was my cat! Aye - same here - not from a particular attachment to the cat in question - rather from a lack of respect or particularly sadistic attitude to the animal in question. I have noted that hunting and shooting people in particular seem to have a respect for that most useless and stupid animal - the dog, but none whatsoever for the very noble and free thinking cat. Further even - a boastful attitude to the destruction they would afford the cat species given the chance. Witness recent thread. - Neil Francis Trowbridge, UK - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "Alex Hamilton", [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "George", INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Are British hunters permitted to shoot cats like German hunters are? If I recall correctly from my Jagerprufung class you may shoot cats that are over 100 meters from an inhabited building. One of the German states requires 200 meters. George -- As far as I'm aware it is perfectly legal to shoot feral cats. Steve. __ You carry on like this boys and the RSPCA will join the antis, suppoted by several milions of cat owners to make all forms of shooting illegal and to raise the age for airgun ownership to ninety! Talk about self-destructive tendencies. Alex -- I was under the impression the RSPCA already had joined the antis. And so has the CPL. Note that the CPL has a figure for 10,000 cats or something like that being shot every year. Note that they fail to point out that in many circumstances it is perfectly legal to do it. Feral cats can carry diseases and also pose a threat to other wildlife. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "Andrew Chastney", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interestingly if you run over a dog in your car, lorry or other vehicle (and kill the dog) you legally MUST report it to the police. If it is a cat? Nothing. Running over and killing a cat does not require reporting the fact to the police. Is this still the case? I know the reason for reporting the death of a dog but not a cat was because dogs were (supposed to be) licensed, which cats never have been. But now that the dog licence has been abolished presumably the rationale for reporting a run-over dog no longer exists? But I'm only guessing. Does anybody know for certain? Andrew Chastney Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "Richard Loweth", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interestingly if you run over a dog in your car, lorry or other vehicle (and kill the dog) you legally MUST report it to the police. If it is a cat? Nothing. Running over and killing a cat does not require reporting the fact to the police. But in Egypt...if you ran over and killed a cat whilst recklessly in charge of your "Ben Hur" type chariot the penalty was death by stoning! Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "Two Pints", [EMAIL PROTECTED] In answer to the road traffic accident question. An accident involving any horse, cattle, ass, mule, sheep, goat, dog or pig must be reported to police within 24 hours IF at the time of the accident names and addresses were not exchanged between parties who required that information. Funnily enough, this even applies to fatal accidents involving people - you mow down granny who steps out in front of you, you stop, give your details to granddad, and then drive off. You have complied with the law. It is most likely you will get a visit from police as they have a duty to collect information for the coroner. In regards to cats, I once had a complaint made against me that I had ran a cat over and failed to stop. The horrified owner was informed of my rebuttal " I did not murder the cat - the cat committed suicide." I heard nothing more about it. Regards 2 pints. -- You would have done if it was my cat! Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "George", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are British hunters permitted to shoot cats like German hunters are? If I recall correctly from my Jagerprufung class you may shoot cats that are over 100 meters from an inhabited building. One of the German states requires 200 meters. George -- As far as I'm aware it is perfectly legal to shoot feral cats. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED] No reason to expect that the situation is any different here. DM ISSUE 2077 Wednesday 31 January 2001 Cats are the 'worst' killers By Charles Clover, Environment Editor BRITAIN'S nine million cats are the main predators of wildlife, killing an estimated 275 million animals a year, a survey said yesterday. Their victims include rare water voles and dormice and the declining population of house sparrows, the Mammal Society said. The survey, carried out by the society's youth group, Mammalaction, said the total was made up of 200 million mammals, 55 million birds, 10 million reptiles and amphibians and 10 million other creatures including worms and moths. Michael Woods, the society's vice-chairman and the survey co-ordinator, said that cats gave "considerable cause for concern" on conservation grounds. He said: "Cats range up to 0.6 of a mile away each night and have a territory of 70 acres. Many owners think that when their cat brings home a mouse it is suppressing the rodent population, but cats are killing animals on a much wider scale." Professor Stephen Harris, of Bristol University, chairman of the society, said: "As there are 26 times more cats than foxes and six times more cats than all wild terrestrial predators combined, no one can doubt that cats can be a very serious problem for wildlife. However, no one wishes to play down the joy and comfort that cats can bring to their owners." The survey, called Look What the Cat Brought In, suggests a number of ways to reduce the killing. One is that cat owners should feed garden birds. Cats in such gardens kill fewer birds, probably because more food means more birds and the birds need to spend less time searching for food and are therefore less exposed. Mr Woods said: "Cats wearing bells and those that were kept in at night kill fewer mammals. Bells give a warning and wild mammals are mainly nocturnal, so keeping cats in cuts down on mousing time." Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "niel fagan", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mr Woods said: "Cats wearing bells and those that were kept in at night kill fewer mammals. Bells give a warning and wild mammals are mainly nocturnal, so keeping cats in cuts down on mousing time." ~ Most cat "owners" (the people owned by the cats as one vet I know discribes them) won't even put a collar on a cat "incase it stranges itself", still without a collar it "could" be considered feral and "could" be delt with in summary fashion Niel. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
