CS: Legal-McMurdo
From: "Earl W", [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, IF McMurdo is still alive, then WHY HASN'T HE THE OTHERS BEEN BROUGHT TO JUSTICE??? Surely it is not beyond our collective ability to bring (in each of these travesties of justice) Private Prosecutions in the form of "Field Sports Participants Vs Those Responsible", no matter who the responsible parties may be. 58,000 - 1,000,000 People chipping in to the legal fees to bring the various prosecutions would send the message to most people that we won't be lying down on these issues where we are persecuted for political whims. maybe they would all do their respective jobs correctly EW -- Didn't we already try this? I seem to recall something along these lines in 1996. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
CS: Legal-McMurdo
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Proximity is the stumbling block we face with prosecuting McMurdo. Under Scottish law only victims and their families of what happened can sue CSP and McMurdo. The only case we can bring against CSP directly is failing to licence Hamilton in accordance with the European Weapons Directive. That is an European Court of Justice matter that can only be brought by direct action in the ECJ or by the European Parliament against the UK for failing in its duties to administer the Weapons Directive. As regards the ideal of getting any money from shooters - Earl you live in wonderland. I struggled on income support while legally fighting the 1997 Act almost single handedly. Of all the people who gave I managed to raise 15,000 over the course of ten months all of which was spent in legal fees and opinions. The majority of that came from UKPSA reserves. The only people who actually gave anything were people on this list with a very few exceptions. I even received two cheques from one chap who had one for the fund and one for me personally with a post it note attached saying "Your doing excellent work so heres a little something so you don't starve." if there was ever a truism that was it. The majority of shooters who got the 1997 Act deserved every bit of it. They are tight fisted, mean apologists who discarded pistol shooting like an old set of golf clubs. We have too many associations who won't talk to each other they have useless PR and communicative skills. The organisations are divisive, duplicitous and arrogant in the extreme in preserving their own little empires. Unless UK shooters can cohesively committ themselves to defending their choice of gun ownership by every available avenue and with all their ability we are doomed. That is why I pulled out of public campaigning in 1998 after 10 years of it so I didn't burn out. Yes there are many things we can do about all of the situations that face us but we need an annual budget of at least 1,000,000 to spend on a legal team to do anything about it. Yes if everyone gave a pound that would be OK, but they won't and they are too lazy to do anything themselves. The average UK shooter is so used to abdicating responsibilty for everything its too much of an effort to pay someone else to rock the boat. How many people do you suppose subscribe to this list, bicker about a particular subject ad nauseam and then do nothing about it. I'd venture its close to 95%. Best Regards Guy Savage Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01