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From: "John Hurst.", [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Saxon is not like the Norman. His manners are not so polite. But he never means anything serious till he talks about justice and right. When he stands like an ox in the furrow with his sullen set eyes on your own, And grumbles, "This isn't fair dealing", My son, leave the Saxon alone. R. Kipling Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "John Hurst.", [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Security is mostly a superstition. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." - Helen Keller Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "John Hurst.", [EMAIL PROTECTED] This quote is from the 1953 presentation to George C. Marshall and includes this Marshall quote by a member of the Committee, "'There has long been an effort to outlaw war for exactly the same reason that man has outlawed murder. But the law prohibiting murder does not of itself prevent murder. It must be enforced. The enforcing power, however, must be maintained on a strictly democratic basis. There must not be a large standing army subject to the behest of a group of schemers. The citizen-soldier is the guarantee against such a misuse of power.'" http://www.nobel.se/peace/laureates/1953/press.html Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "John Hurst.", [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Hey, I realise it is all semantics, but I can make a pretty good argument that all rights, especially human rights, ARE _property_ rights. My rights start with the absolute and unequivocal ownership of my own body. I am my own property, I belong to no one but myself. You have no right to my property (me) without my explicit consent and participation. What kind of right does that not cover? Self defence is protection of my property (me). Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness all have to do with someone else _not_ controlling my property (me) but ME controlling same. This philosophy, Propertarianism, is closely related to Libertarianism". Carl H. Stone. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND A FINAL THOUGHT ON JUDICIAL ACTIVISM... "You seem...to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all Constitutional questions: a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one, which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so. They have, with others, the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps. ...And their power (is) the more dangerous, as they are in office for life and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots." --Thomas Jefferson Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] "..good intentions will be confounded by a tyranny of mediocrity that must arise when educators, politicians and judges legislate equal outcomes rather than create opportunity -- yet never for themselves or their kids." David COHEN, 1999, 'Stranger in the Nest', New York : Wiley DePublisher. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >"All persons in whose possession any firearms may hereafter be >found, will be deemed enemies to his majesty's government." > >--Gen. Gage For the list, would you mind giving the attribute to that quote, and perhaps a researchable reference? ET, It was on the 2nd Ammendment Police Department list without a reference unfortuately. Regards, John Hurst. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >The real cause of the American Revolution: > >"All persons in whose possession any firearms may hereafter be >found, will be deemed enemies to his majesty's government." > >--Gen. Gage Steve, & John, For the list, would you mind giving the attribute to that quote, and perhaps a researchable reference? Of late, because many quotes are turning out to be of questionable authenticity, it helps to have a solid source to point others to, and sustain our position. Would do wonders for us here in the 'colonies'. ET Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] The real cause of the American Revolution: "All persons in whose possession any firearms may hereafter be found, will be deemed enemies to his majesty's government." --Gen. Gage Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] "It is the common fate of the indolent to see their rights become a prey to the active. The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt." John Philpot Curran: Speech upon the Right of Election, 1790. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Forty-two years ago, in 1958, a collection of essays by a Brit, Aldous Huxley, was published under the name 'Brave New World Revisited'. A short, verbatim excerpt consisting of 6 sentences from his concluding chapter is below: "We may expect to see in the democratic countries a reversal of the process which transformed England into a democracy, while retaining all of the outward forms of a monarchy. Under the relentless thrust of accelerating over-population and increasing over-organization, and by means of ever more effective methods of mind-manipulation, the democracies will change their nature; the quaint old forms--elections, parliaments, Supreme Courts and all the rest will remain. The underlying substance will be a new kind of non-violent totalitarianism. All the traditional names, all the hallowed slogans will remain exactly what they were in the good old days. Democracy and freedom will be the theme of every broadcast and editorial--but democracy and freedom in a strictly Pickwickian sense. Meanwhile, the ruling oligarchy and its highly trained elite of soldiers, policemen, thought manufacturers and mind manipulators will quietly run the show as they see fit." Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Those who tremble at the idea of personal weapons -- 'hoplophobes' is the diagnostic term -- are fond of saying that guns are made for only one purpose. Well, gun control serves only one purpose, too -- the incapacitation and extermination of whole peoples." --L. Neil Smith Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >What I want to know is, why is it those whose >acts against liberty are almost always mouthing words >the most profound in its support? >And, more importantly, why is it they are >to a man and a women the most damnable hypocrites? ET, I think that this particular quote is an insight into what happens to such people. That includes the present Prime Minister. And the one about "all morality ultimately descends to survival of the group". Regards, John Hurst. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >"The lawgiver, of all beings, most owes the law >allegiance. He of all men should behave as though the >law compelled him. But it is the universal weakness of >mankind that what we are given to administer, we >presently imagine we own." > >H. G. Wells Steve, & John, Great words for a man who conspired to pigeonhole liberty. The man was one of the original Fabian Society partners. It was upon his suggestions that both the Canadian and U.S. eugenics programs were instituted. What I want to know is, why is it those whose acts against liberty are almost always mouthing words the most profound in its support? And, more importantly, why is it they are to a man and a women the most damnable hypocrites? ET Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The lawgiver, of all beings, most owes the law allegiance. He of all men should behave as though the law compelled him. But it is the universal weakness of mankind that what we are given to administer, we presently imagine we own." H. G. Wells Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] (From 'Monty Python') "We would like to apologize for the way in which politicians are represented in this presentation. It was never our intention to imply that politicians are weak-kneed political time servers who are concerned more with their personal vendettas and private power struggles than the problems of government. Nor to suggest at any point that they sacrifice their credibility by denying free debate on vital matters in the mistaken impression that party unity comes before the well-being of the people they supposedly represent. Nor to imply at any stage that they are squabbling little toadies without an ounce of concern for the vital social problems of today. Nor indeed do we intend that readers should consider them as crabby ulcerous little self-seeking vermin with furry legs and an excessive addiction to alcohol and certain explicit sexual practices which some people might offensive. ... We are sorry if this impression has come across." Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences." - (C.S. Lewis, from the essay "The Humanitarian Theory of Punishment" in the book "God in the Dock") Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with the view of confiscating them and leaving the population defenseless." Vladimir Ilich Lenin -- What's the source for this quote? The bits about inflation and gun registration sound a bit made up to me. Steve, The Firearms list. The poster was unsure of the authenticity of the gun part as well. Regards, John Hurst. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] "They have given us into the hands of new, unhappy lords Lords without anger and honour, who dare not carry their swords They fight by shuffling papers, they have bright, dead, alien eyes And they look at our labour and laughter as a tired man looks at flies And the load of their loveless pity is worse than the ancient wrongs For their doors are shut in the evenings, and they know no songs. We hear men speaking for us of new laws strong and sweet Yet there is none that speaketh as we speak in the street It may be we shall rise the last, as Frenchmen rose the first Our wrath come after Russia's wrath and our wrath be the worst. It may be we are meant to mark with our riot and our jest God's scorn for all men governing.." G.K Chesterton Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial, destroy their ruggedness.Get control of all means of publicity and thereby: Get the peoples' mind off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and plays, and other trivialities. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance. Destroy the peoples faith in their natural leaders by holding up the latter to ridicule, contempt and obloquy. Always preach true democracy but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible. Encourage government extravagance, destroy its credit, produce fear with rising prices, inflation and general discontent. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders and foster a soft and lenient attitude on the part of government towards such disorders. By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues: honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with the view of confiscating them and leaving the population defenseless." Vladimir Ilich Lenin -- What's the source for this quote? The bits about inflation and gun registration sound a bit made up to me. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
