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From: "matthew.wright7", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes and AR was very active after Dunblane and made submissions to Cullen. There are links between the animal peace and world peace mob. Once one main sport trips up these movements have to keep their momentum/funds or go under themselves. There is no question that they will feed of any success in pushing more illogical bans. Matthew Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "Mike Burns", [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they _really_ care about animal welfare and animal rights they'll go after Halal butchers, since that is a thouroughly unnecessary and generally nasty procedure that causes phenominal suffering to many animals daily in the name of "freedom of religious expression". If it's a mainly political thing, they won't, since they don't want to be chastised by the PC brigade and lose Government support g mike "A seemingly one-man crusade against political correctness g" Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "Brian Toller", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Radio 4 just before 7 this morning had a feature on cruelty to fish from hooks and the problems of line etc tangling with birds and oyther wildlife. Even better on Radio 5 PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals), which I assume is a British off shoot of the American organisation, had some wally on. Pain and distress caused to fish etc. The hooks and lines, were merely a secondary point. Apparently they are about to release a poster with a dog dangling at the end of a fishing line which is why they'd got some air time. Did anyone seriously think that all the LACS and Hunt Saboteurs etc would retire and take up gardening if hunting with hounds was banned. Taken to it's only slightly illogical extreme they would have use all walking naked brushing the ground before us lest we squash some unsuspecting bug in the manner of certain Indian holy men. Brian T -- LACS has always been against shooting for as long as I can remember. Like I said before they ran a big ad campaign in 1988 to get shooting banned altogether. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "Frazer, John", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Needless to say the anglers are going about it all wrong. Arguing that fish don't feel pain isn't going to cut it with anyone. If that were the standard then it would be OK by PETA to shoot a deer with a tranquilizer dart, then give it a lethal injection, field-dress it, and throw it on the barbecue. The only way to beat these people is by ridiculing them and exposing them as actually preferring animals' lives over people. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "Earl W", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Animal activists set sights on angling 1:03pm Monday, 12th February 2001 Animal rights activists are launching a nationwide advertising campaign as part of a push for angling to be outlawed. Leisure fishing is a bloodsport, as bad as fox hunting and should be outlawed, says campaign group Peta - People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. Advertisements, likely to feature a dog dangling from a line with a hook through its mouth, will be placed in newspapers, magazines and on billboards. But anglers have reacted furiously, saying they are being victimised by activists and there is no evidence the sport causes fish to suffer. Andrew Butler, Peta's UK co-ordinator, said: "Angling is nothing more than hunting on water. Fish feel pain and distress like other animals. They have all the chemical processes and pain receptors that other creatures do." The campaign, which is not due to be launched for at least another two months, was sparked by an anguished letter from a former angler who wrote to Peta saying he had taken his dog on a fishing trip and his first catch of the day was a fish with a hook stuck in its cheek. Mr Butler said: "He looked at the fish, then looked at the dog and realised that if you wouldn't rip open the cheek of a dog, why would you do it to a fish? "So we took that as the starting point. We are looking at using a computer-generated image of a dog with a hook through it and asking the same question." But Kevin Stephenson, secretary of the National Association of Specialist Anglers, says there is concern that action against the sport will escalate if the Bill to ban fox hunting goes through Parliament. "We are confident that there is no suffering involved and that we are in the right about this," he said. "But the worry is that Peta are very well organised and funded, and now that hunting is on its knees they are looking around to see what's next." -- PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals. G Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "Earl W", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps Mr Tony Banks MP (the keen fisherman who votes to ban all other sports) would like to see where his hypocritical stand on rights past times has got him, his fellow anglers, the fishing industry etc! So will the ALF be targeting Fishmongers? Tesco/Sainsburys? Do those idiots who call themselves "the Elected Member" ever learn??? (Didn't know you could elect part of your body!!) Or will MP's be shocked by the ALF statement from those who have no PLACE in rationalised debate, maybe Mr Banks will ask " How COD they do this!? LOL EW Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Came by this from the telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=003609235117673rtmo=r 9EFSXXXatmo=tttdpg=/et/01/1/13/nchip13.html --snip-- Robin Webb, a spokesman for the Animal Liberation Front, said [...] Although I do not condone actions of this kind, I can understand the anger and frustration that leads people to take radical action when the parliamentary road has failed." Looks like fishermen on the riverbanks had better watch out Neil Steve, Neil, Note the attitude: Since we can't have our way, then we must resort to violent behavior. These people always talk of 'democracy', yet, like Marxists, when the majority isn't swayed by their feeble arguments, they resort to terrorism (political temper tantrums) in the hope of driving fear into the hearts of the less inclined to stand up to them. What they cannot achieve by antagonism, they precipitate through the force of terror. It amazed me that they think they have the right to prevail upon everyone, without reason. -- =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= "Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - John Quincy Adams =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
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From: "Neil Roberts", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Came by this from the telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=003609235117673rtmo=r 9EFSXXXatmo=tttdpg=/et/01/1/13/nchip13.html FISH and chip shops have been declared a legitimate target for attack by animal rights extremists. The Animal Liberation Front said yesterday that a letter bomb attack in North Wales could herald the start of a wider campaign against the 8,600 fish and chip shops in the country. Robin Webb, a spokesman for the Animal Liberation Front, said chip shops could be regarded as targets. He said: "The fishing industry is perceived as being very, very cruel. With mammals and birds there is a pretence of humane stunning and slaughter, whereas fish are dragged out of the water into an alien environment in which they slowly die. "People, perhaps, don't have the same perception generally about fish as they don't have hands-on contact with them. But from the scientific point of view they have a central nervous system and they can suffer and feel pain. Although I do not condone actions of this kind, I can understand the anger and frustration that leads people to take radical action when the parliamentary road has failed." Looks like fishermen on the riverbanks had better watch out Neil Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01