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2001-02-15 Thread matthew.wright7

From:   "matthew.wright7", [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes and AR was very active after Dunblane and made submissions to Cullen.
There are links between the animal peace and world peace mob. Once one main
sport trips up these movements have to keep their momentum/funds or go under
themselves. There is no question that they will feed of any success in
pushing more illogical bans.

Matthew


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2001-02-13 Thread Mike Burns

From:   "Mike Burns", [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If they _really_ care about animal welfare and animal rights they'll go
after Halal butchers, since that is a thouroughly unnecessary and generally
nasty procedure that causes phenominal suffering to many animals daily in
the name of "freedom of religious expression".  If it's a mainly political
thing, they won't, since they don't want to be chastised by the PC brigade
and lose Government support g

mike
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2001-02-13 Thread Brian Toller

From:   "Brian Toller", [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Radio 4 just before 7 this morning had a feature on
cruelty to fish from hooks and the problems of line etc
tangling with birds and oyther wildlife.

Even better on Radio 5
PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals), which I assume is a
British off shoot of the American organisation, had some wally on.
Pain and distress caused to fish etc. The hooks and lines, were merely a
secondary point. Apparently they are about to release a poster with a dog
dangling at the end of a fishing line which is why they'd got some air time.

Did anyone seriously think that all the LACS and Hunt Saboteurs etc would
retire and take up gardening if hunting with hounds was banned.
Taken to it's only slightly illogical extreme they would have use all
walking naked brushing the ground before us lest we squash some unsuspecting
bug in the manner of certain Indian holy men.

Brian T
--
LACS has always been against shooting for as long as I can remember.

Like I said before they ran a big ad campaign in 1988 to get shooting
banned altogether.

Steve.


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2001-02-13 Thread Frazer, John

From:   "Frazer, John", [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Needless to say the anglers are going about it all wrong.  Arguing that
fish don't feel pain isn't going to cut it with anyone.  If that were the
standard then it would be OK by PETA to shoot a deer with a tranquilizer dart,
then give it a lethal injection, field-dress it, and throw it on the barbecue.

The only way to beat these people is by ridiculing them and exposing
them as actually preferring animals' lives over people.


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2001-02-13 Thread Earl W

From:   "Earl W", [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Animal activists set sights on angling
1:03pm Monday, 12th February 2001

Animal rights activists are launching a nationwide advertising campaign as
part of a push for angling to be outlawed.

Leisure fishing is a bloodsport, as bad as fox hunting and should be
outlawed, says campaign group Peta - People for the Ethical Treatment of
Animals.

Advertisements, likely to feature a dog dangling from a line with a hook
through its mouth, will be placed in newspapers, magazines and on
billboards.

But anglers have reacted furiously, saying they are being victimised by
activists and there is no evidence the sport causes fish to suffer.

Andrew Butler, Peta's UK co-ordinator, said: "Angling is nothing more than
hunting on water. Fish feel pain and distress like other animals. They have
all the chemical processes and pain receptors that other creatures do."

The campaign, which is not due to be launched for at least another two
months, was sparked by an anguished letter from a former angler who wrote to
Peta saying he had taken his dog on a fishing trip and his first catch of
the day was a fish with a hook stuck in its cheek.

Mr Butler said: "He looked at the fish, then looked at the dog and realised
that if you wouldn't rip open the cheek of a dog, why would you do it to a
fish?

"So we took that as the starting point. We are looking at using a
computer-generated image of a dog with a hook through it and asking the same
question."

But Kevin Stephenson, secretary of the National Association of Specialist
Anglers, says there is concern that action against the sport will escalate
if the Bill to ban fox hunting goes through Parliament.

"We are confident that there is no suffering involved and that we are in the
right about this," he said. "But the worry is that Peta are very well
organised and funded, and now that hunting is on its knees they are looking
around to see what's next."
--
PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals. G

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2001-01-24 Thread Earl W

From:   "Earl W", [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Perhaps Mr Tony Banks MP (the keen fisherman who votes to ban all other
sports) would like to see where his hypocritical stand on rights  past
times has got him, his fellow anglers, the fishing industry etc!

So will the ALF be targeting Fishmongers? Tesco/Sainsburys?

Do those idiots who call themselves "the Elected Member" ever learn???
(Didn't know you could elect part of your body!!)

Or will MP's be shocked by the ALF statement from those who have no PLACE in
rationalised debate, maybe Mr Banks will ask " How COD they do this!?

LOL

EW


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2001-01-24 Thread E.J. Totty

From:   "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Came by this from the telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=003609235117673rtmo=r
9EFSXXXatmo=tttdpg=/et/01/1/13/nchip13.html
--snip--

Robin Webb, a spokesman for the Animal Liberation
Front, said  [...]  Although I do not condone actions
of this kind, I can understand the anger and
frustration that leads people to take radical action
when the parliamentary road has failed."


Looks like fishermen on the riverbanks had better watch
out

Neil

Steve,  Neil,

Note the attitude: Since we can't have our way,
then we must resort to violent behavior.
These people always talk of 'democracy', yet, like
Marxists, when the majority isn't swayed by their feeble
arguments, they resort to terrorism (political temper tantrums)
in the hope of driving fear into the hearts of the less inclined
to stand up to them.
What they cannot achieve by antagonism, they precipitate
through the force of terror.
It amazed me that they think they have the right to
prevail upon everyone, without reason.
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"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, 
and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not 
commit suicide."
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2001-01-24 Thread Neil Roberts

From:   "Neil Roberts", [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Came by this from the telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=003609235117673rtmo=r
9EFSXXXatmo=tttdpg=/et/01/1/13/nchip13.html


FISH and chip shops have been declared a legitimate
target for attack by animal rights extremists.
The Animal Liberation Front said yesterday that a
letter bomb attack in North Wales could herald the
start of a wider campaign against the 8,600 fish and
chip shops in the country.

Robin Webb, a spokesman for the Animal Liberation
Front, said chip shops could be regarded as targets. He
said: "The fishing industry is perceived as being very,
very cruel. With mammals and birds there is a pretence
of humane stunning and slaughter, whereas fish are
dragged out of the water into an alien environment in
which they slowly die.

"People, perhaps, don't have the same perception
generally about fish as they don't have hands-on
contact with them. But from the scientific point of
view they have a central nervous system and they can
suffer and feel pain. Although I do not condone actions
of this kind, I can understand the anger and
frustration that leads people to take radical action
when the parliamentary road has failed."


Looks like fishermen on the riverbanks had better watch
out

Neil


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