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From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED] One 'military' storage facility lay inside a sub-division where I served as a police officer. They were constantly reporting items missing. Quite often these are audit or inventory errors. Remember the fire at Radway Green in the early 1980's. After the fire they realised they disn't know what they really had in store and that a full audit hadn't been carried out for years. They estimated they were missing some 200 tons of small arms ammunition (mainly 7.62mm and 9mm), plus hundreds of the weapons chambered for these same rounds! Friends with military connections constantly have stories of annual audits where weapons, ammunition, even major items like tanks and APCs can't be accounted for. The Australian idea is obviously a ploy to make purchasing a gun as difficult as possible. The added costs of purchasing 'demonstration samples' which can never be sold seems like an undue restraint of trade. The idea that once bought they can never be sold, even though they are the dealers legal property and must be surrendered to the police for destruction seems utterly crazy. Perhaps the Australian government would like to do the same with cars and see what the auto industry says in very vocal terms! One work around presumably the dealers could order guns for customers who then take delivery and immediately sell the gun back to the dealer, or would Customs take a dim view of this? Regards Jerry -- That is the whole point, as far as I can tell. How much power does Australian Customs have? Under the Australian Constitution power is devolved to the States to a much greater degree than for example in the US or Germany. I cannot fathom how the Australian Federal Government can say that the Customs power extends to the sale of an item domestically at some distant future point, especially when it will likely be an intra-State sale. Surely that is the juristiction of the State or territorial Government? Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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Date: August 22, 2000 To: All Commercial Dealers, HK Customers and Interested Parties Fr: HK Executive Office Re: Missing Inventory Following the completion of an annual in-house product inventory, Heckler & Koch, Inc. (HK) identified a quantity of firearms as missing from warehouse storage. After undertaking an exhaustive search and conducting a second physical inventory of all areas of the warehouse, HK, in compliance with federal and state law, notified the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF) and contacted the Loudoun County Sheriff's Department to report the missing product. HK continues to cooperate fully with federal, state and county officials in the investigation of this matter. -- And this is a company that _owns_ a bonded warehouse in Virginia, sort of puts a different spin on the Australian idea. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "niel fagan", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >One 'military' storage facility lay inside a sub-division >where I served as a police officer. They were constantly >reporting items missing. > >Quite often these are audit or inventory errors. > I wonder (if the word on the street is right) how they account for some of their stock? I hear (but only many down the line, not first or second hand, so I maybe misinformed) that there's a glut of 9mm pistols coming onto the black-market, none bear any serial numbers (never stamped) and of various types (brownings and berettas were mentioned). Seems plausible with the withdrawal from NI that the unmarked "carry" guns for off duty use that were rumored to exist are being disposed of...And no official records exist of their existence! On another note I also hear that a range that was closed down some years ago (on safety grounds) is back in use, not by civilians, but by the Tactical Weapons And Techniques Squad (TWATS, not my descriptor BTW) of one local force (not the normal AFO's). One local farmer apparently said he saw several box fulls of gear going onto the range over the last few months, so at least they are getting some practice, though the firearms they were shooting were described as probably seized firearms by another source (supposition I suspect, though they can't afford enough ammo normally), there have apparently also been some accounting discrepancy's with their seizures too. Both the above are unsupported, I have NO direct knowledge, but as this is an open forum even rumors can be of interest. Niel. -- Well, the first part sounds like a fairy tale to me. Certainly the idea that they are carry guns from NI that were at any point legally held. Perhaps the UVF and UFF are selling some off! Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
