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From: nick royall, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I remember one dealer of classic arms having a large number of pistols with "mint bores" which had been either recut or polished out so they looked brilliant but were in excess of 5 thou oversize. Nearly all my classic guns looked like a piece of junk but shot like a dream, my .455 Webley and my .32 Colt 1903 being as accurate as my .32 Hammerli even in my hands. My P14 will shoot 1" groups at 200 yards and my P17 and SMLE are not far behind. My good fortune is to acquire "sleepers" that may have suffered externally but have not been shot loose. Nick Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "Richard Loweth", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am sorry that Alex had such bad luck with his rifle. Nothing to do with me by the way. But I have always found "classics" not that bad. However it is very much a case of "suck it and see". I found the real "devils" were fixed sight service revolvers. I never did find a .455 MkVI that was both accurate AND shot to exact POA suitable for HBSA run Pistol AD competitions. Now my early 1915 Colt 1911 shot both to POA and into 2" at 20 yards..offhand. The only thing I can suggest is what I do. Buy a well used original, even if the barrel is worn, the rest of the gun is OK. Then, if not accurate get a reputable gunsmith like W.E. Phillips of Leicester to re-barrel it. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here you have to be much more careful because I find that people only sell their guns off when they've worn them out, either that or it's an awful gun that they didn't like. Not always, you can find some jewels, but it happens quite a lot. Can't say I agree with all of this. I don't think there are all that many "worn out" guns out there, guns people didn't like definatley, but worn out I doubt. Diferent people like different guns in different ways and what suits one person may not suit another even though there may not be anything actually wrong with it. I have a .30-30 Marlin that I know shoots very well but I just don't like much and can't get to it shoot very well. I have just picked up a single shot .357, New England Firearms break action carbine (for not a lot) that fits me nicely, has a nice trigger pull (for me) has nice sights (for me) and "feels" right, not suprisingly my averages in the club comps have gone up since I got it. I can't say that I've seen many guns at all that I could truly describe as being worn out, I just don't think we have the opurtunity here to shoot a gun to death, especially if it's a full bore rifle. J. -- I come across worn out junk portrayed as being in good condition at arms fairs constantly. Sometimes its down to the ignorance of the dealer, who goes on exterior looks alone, but sometimes you come across dealers trying to pull a fast one. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "roger gascoigne", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Steve's comments on US second hand guns versus UK. The ones you have to watch our for here are the 'kitchen gun smiths' who do work on their guns and then sell them. Most often a genuine gunsmith repair or re-fit will be at least as good as and often better than the original, The amateurs are the dangerous ones. The other issue is usage. here in the US gun collections tend to be larger than in UK - only a few places limit volume, and then its either zero, or one per month. Elsewhere there is no limit. Consequently people have guns that they rarely shoot. I could not, for example, wear out the barrels of the .303's that I have that are in shootable condition. I know the one Alex got was possibly oversize to begin with. (BTW would a re-barrel have been cheaper?) The most aggravating people are those who insist on 'refinishing' firearms to make them look like new. Can you imagine finding an early and hence rare No 5 Carbine someone has blued or restocked in blond wood ? Could make you weep. Roger -- The thing I used to find in the US was: "Oh, my wife bought me this for Christmas but I've decided I don't like it." Or other things such as that. Doesn't happen here very often, because of our gun laws. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "Richard Loweth", [EMAIL PROTECTED] You haven't seen "gun coping" at all until you have heard of, and seen some of the "horrors" that used to be done with English double barrel shotguns when the fetish for them was at its height in the late 1970's early 1980s'. Actions squeezed in a vice to make them tight, barrel loops hammered forward to tighten the face, barrels squeezed to make a proof plug fit properly, barrels so thin from boring to get rid of pitting etc. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
