Re: [PATCH] Re: [setup] Inaccurate message: See /setup.log.full

[Max Bowsher]

Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
 Ping? (Just making sure this was seen).
 
 On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
 2002-10-17  Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 * res.rc (IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE): Change hard-coded
 log filename to %s.
 * LogFile.cc (LogFile::exit): Pass log filename for
 LOG_BABBLE to note().
 (LogFile::getFile): New function.
 * LogFile.h (LogFile::getFile): New function.

Definitely got here - I imagine Robert is just busy. 

What do you think about the following suggestions ?

In:

+static String bad_file = the log;
+
+String const 
+LogFile::getFile (int minlevel) const
+{
+  for (FileSet::iterator i = files.begin();
+   i != files.end(); ++i)
+{
+  if (i-level == minlevel)
+return i-key;
+}
+  return bad_file;
+}

just do:  return the log; , and remove the bad_file variable?



And:

+  String log_full = cygpath(getFile(LOG_BABBLE));
   if (exit_msg)
-note (NULL, exit_msg);
+note (NULL, exit_msg, log_full.cstr_oneuse());
   
Just do:
*note (NULL, exit_msg, cygpath(getFile(LOG_BABBLE)).cstr_oneuse());
   

Just a matter of personal opinion, really, so feel free to say no :-)



Max.

Re: CMake 1.6.1-1

[Pavel Tsekov]

On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, William A. Hoffman wrote:

 Here are the required files:
 
 ftp://www.cmake.org/pub/cmake/cygwin/setup.hint
 ftp://www.cmake.org/pub/cmake/cygwin/cmake-1.6.1-1.tar.bz2
 ftp://www.cmake.org/pub/cmake/cygwin/cmake-1.6.1-1-src.tar.bz2

Uploaded. Please, send an announcement in a couple of hours.

Re: [PATCH] Re: [setup] Inaccurate message: See /setup.log.full

[Igor Pechtchanski]

Max,

Thanks for the feedback.  Replies inline below.

On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Max Bowsher wrote:

 Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
  Ping? (Just making sure this was seen).
 
  On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
  2002-10-17  Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  * res.rc (IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE): Change hard-coded
  log filename to %s.
  * LogFile.cc (LogFile::exit): Pass log filename for
  LOG_BABBLE to note().
  (LogFile::getFile): New function.
  * LogFile.h (LogFile::getFile): New function.

 Definitely got here - I imagine Robert is just busy.

Right.  No problem at all.

 What do you think about the following suggestions ?

 In:

 +static String bad_file = the log;
 +
 +String const 
 +LogFile::getFile (int minlevel) const
 +{
 +  for (FileSet::iterator i = files.begin();
 +   i != files.end(); ++i)
 +{
 +  if (i-level == minlevel)
 +return i-key;
 +}
 +  return bad_file;
 +}

 just do:  return the log; , and remove the bad_file variable?

Hmm.  Personally, I prefer to use named constants whenever possible.
However, static variables aren't the way to go -- I must have been
programming too much Java lately... :-)  I should have used a #define, but
then got a better idea - that string should really be a resource, as it's
a phrase, not a filename.

 And:

 +  String log_full = cygpath(getFile(LOG_BABBLE));
if (exit_msg)
 -note (NULL, exit_msg);
 +note (NULL, exit_msg, log_full.cstr_oneuse());

 Just do:
 *note (NULL, exit_msg, cygpath(getFile(LOG_BABBLE)).cstr_oneuse());

Yes, definitely.  I thought I was paving the way for Robert's suggested
table of logs (that we would have to somehow postprocess), but then
realized that the postprocessing could be wrapped in a function that
returns the formatted string.

 Just a matter of personal opinion, really, so feel free to say no :-)

 Max.

By all means, thanks for your suggestions.  New version of the patch
attached.
Igor

ChangeLog:
2002-10-17  Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* res.rc (IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE): Change hard-coded
log filename to %s.
(IDS_MISSING_LOG): New string resource.
* LogFile.cc (LogFile::exit): Pass log filename for
LOG_BABBLE to note().
(LogFile::getFile): New function.
* LogFile.h (LogFile::getFile): New function.

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Index: LogFile.cc
===
RCS file: /cvs/cygwin-apps/setup/LogFile.cc,v
retrieving revision 2.6
diff -u -p -r2.6 LogFile.cc
--- LogFile.cc  25 Nov 2002 00:41:24 -  2.6
+++ LogFile.cc  1 Feb 2003 17:25:10 -
@@ -31,6 +31,8 @@ static const char *cvsid =
 #include time.h
 #include string
 #include AntiVirus.h
+#include mount.h
+#include cistring.h
 
 using namespace std;
 
@@ -101,6 +103,20 @@ LogFile::setFile (int minlevel, String c
   files.insert (t);
 }
 
+String
+LogFile::getFile (int minlevel) const
+{
+  for (FileSet::iterator i = files.begin();
+   i != files.end(); ++i)
+{
+  if (i-level == minlevel)
+return i-key;
+}
+  cistring bad_file;
+  bad_file.Format(IDS_MISSING_LOG);
+  return bad_file.c_str();
+}
+
 void
 LogFile::exit (int const exit_code)
 {
@@ -115,7 +131,7 @@ LogFile::exit (int const exit_code)
   been_here = 1;
   
   if (exit_msg)
-note (NULL, exit_msg);
+note (NULL, exit_msg, cygpath(getFile(LOG_BABBLE)).cstr_oneuse());
   
   log (LOG_TIMESTAMP)  Ending cygwin install  endLog;
 
Index: LogFile.h
===
RCS file: /cvs/cygwin-apps/setup/LogFile.h,v
retrieving revision 2.3
diff -u -p -r2.3 LogFile.h
--- LogFile.h   10 Nov 2002 03:56:05 -  2.3
+++ LogFile.h   1 Feb 2003 17:25:10 -
@@ -23,6 +23,7 @@ public:
   LogFile();
   void clearFiles(); // delete all target filenames
   void setFile (int minlevel, String const path, bool append);
+  String getFile (int minlevel) const;
   /* Some platforms don't call destructors. So this call exists
* which guarantees to flush any log data...
* but doesn't call generic C++ destructors
Index: res.rc
===
RCS file: /cvs/cygwin-apps/setup/res.rc,v
retrieving revision 2.45
diff -u -p -r2.45 res.rc
--- res.rc  19 Jan 2003 20:31:53 -  2.45
+++ res.rc  1 Feb 2003 17:25:22 -
@@ -483,11 +483,12 @@ BEGIN
 IDS_DOWNLOAD_FAILED Unable to download %s
 IDS_DOWNLOAD_INCOMPLETE 

Re: [PATCH] Re: [setup] Inaccurate message: See /setup.log.full

[Max Bowsher]

Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
 just do:  return the log; , and remove the bad_file variable?

 Hmm.  Personally, I prefer to use named constants whenever possible.

It seems a little silly to use a constant when it is required only once.

 However, static variables aren't the way to go -- I must have been
 programming too much Java lately... :-)  I should have used a
 #define, but then got a better idea - that string should really be a
 resource, as it's a phrase, not a filename.

General question:

What advantage do resources give us over string literals, for messages that
are only used once in setup?


Max.

RE: [PATCH] Re: [setup] Inaccurate message: See /setup.log.full

[John Morrison]

 From: Max Bowsher
 
 General question:
 
 What advantage do resources give us over string literals, for 
 messages that
 are only used once in setup?

I18N

J.

Re: [PATCH] Re: [setup] Inaccurate message: See /setup.log.full

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Max Bowsher wrote:

 Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
  just do:  return the log; , and remove the bad_file variable?
 
  Hmm.  Personally, I prefer to use named constants whenever possible.

 It seems a little silly to use a constant when it is required only once.

I know, but your programming style is beaten into you when you learn
programming, and is usually very hard to unlearn. ;-)

  However, static variables aren't the way to go -- I must have been
  programming too much Java lately... :-)  I should have used a
  #define, but then got a better idea - that string should really be a
  resource, as it's a phrase, not a filename.

 General question:

 What advantage do resources give us over string literals, for messages that
 are only used once in setup?

 Max.

Resources have the advantage that whole resource tables can be substituted
at once.  If we ever want to internationalize setup, for example, all
that'd be needed is translating the resource file.  Having hard-coded
string constants sprinkled all over the code makes translation impossible.
Not that anyone has any plans to translate setup any time soon...  Again,
I guess it's a question of programming style.
Igor
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Re: [PATCH] Re: [setup] Inaccurate message: See /setup.log.full

[Max Bowsher]

Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
 On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Max Bowsher wrote:
 What advantage do resources give us over string literals, for
 messages that are only used once in setup?

 Resources have the advantage that whole resource tables can be
 substituted at once.  If we ever want to internationalize setup, for
 example, all
 that'd be needed is translating the resource file.  Having hard-coded
 string constants sprinkled all over the code makes translation
 impossible. Not that anyone has any plans to translate setup any time
 soon...  Again,
 I guess it's a question of programming style.

Fair enough. The thing I *really* hate, is that any change to resource.h,
and you end up recompiling *everything*.


Anyway...

I just tried it out, and was told Check (null) for details.
I don't think you want to call cygpath at all. LogFile::getFile already
returns a Windows path.
(With rather ugly looking mixed slashes. backslash()-ing the path might be
nice.

One other point - it might be more informative for the fallback text to be
setup.log.full rather than log file.


Max.

Re: [PATCH] Re: [setup] Inaccurate message: See /setup.log.full

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Max Bowsher wrote:

 Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
  On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Max Bowsher wrote:
  What advantage do resources give us over string literals, for
  messages that are only used once in setup?
 
  Resources have the advantage that whole resource tables can be
  substituted at once.  If we ever want to internationalize setup, for
  example, all
  that'd be needed is translating the resource file.  Having hard-coded
  string constants sprinkled all over the code makes translation
  impossible. Not that anyone has any plans to translate setup any time
  soon...  Again,
  I guess it's a question of programming style.

 Fair enough. The thing I *really* hate, is that any change to resource.h,
 and you end up recompiling *everything*.

 Anyway...

 I just tried it out, and was told Check (null) for details.
 I don't think you want to call cygpath at all. LogFile::getFile already
 returns a Windows path.
 (With rather ugly looking mixed slashes. backslash()-ing the path might be
 nice.

 One other point - it might be more informative for the fallback text to be
 setup.log.full rather than log file.

 Max.

Yes, it does recompile everything when resource.h is modified, but that
only happens once.  A necessary evil...

Sorry about the (null) bit.  Should be fixed now.  I also took your
suggestion regarding log file.  The third iteration of the patch is
attached...

Incidentally, there are two backslash() functions defined: one in
filemanip.h, and another in concat.h.  This is the only function defined
in concat.h, and it doesn't seem to be used anywhere anymore.  Is concat.h
dead?  Should it be removed?  Ditto for concat.cc?
Igor

ChangeLog:
2002-10-17  Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* res.rc (IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE): Change hard-coded
log filename to %s.
(IDS_MISSING_LOG): New string resource.
* resource.h (IDS_MISSING_LOG): New resource.
* LogFile.cc (LogFile::exit): Pass log filename for
LOG_BABBLE to note().
(LogFile::getFile): New function.
* LogFile.h (LogFile::getFile): New function.

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Index: LogFile.cc
===
RCS file: /cvs/cygwin-apps/setup/LogFile.cc,v
retrieving revision 2.6
diff -u -p -r2.6 LogFile.cc
--- LogFile.cc  25 Nov 2002 00:41:24 -  2.6
+++ LogFile.cc  1 Feb 2003 20:31:02 -
@@ -31,6 +31,8 @@ static const char *cvsid =
 #include time.h
 #include string
 #include AntiVirus.h
+#include filemanip.h
+#include cistring.h
 
 using namespace std;
 
@@ -101,6 +103,20 @@ LogFile::setFile (int minlevel, String c
   files.insert (t);
 }
 
+String
+LogFile::getFile (int minlevel) const
+{
+  for (FileSet::iterator i = files.begin();
+   i != files.end(); ++i)
+{
+  if (i-level == minlevel)
+return i-key;
+}
+  cistring bad_file;
+  bad_file.Format(IDS_MISSING_LOG);
+  return bad_file.c_str();
+}
+
 void
 LogFile::exit (int const exit_code)
 {
@@ -115,7 +131,7 @@ LogFile::exit (int const exit_code)
   been_here = 1;
   
   if (exit_msg)
-note (NULL, exit_msg);
+note (NULL, exit_msg, backslash(getFile(LOG_BABBLE)).cstr_oneuse());
   
   log (LOG_TIMESTAMP)  Ending cygwin install  endLog;
 
Index: LogFile.h
===
RCS file: /cvs/cygwin-apps/setup/LogFile.h,v
retrieving revision 2.3
diff -u -p -r2.3 LogFile.h
--- LogFile.h   10 Nov 2002 03:56:05 -  2.3
+++ LogFile.h   1 Feb 2003 20:31:02 -
@@ -23,6 +23,7 @@ public:
   LogFile();
   void clearFiles(); // delete all target filenames
   void setFile (int minlevel, String const path, bool append);
+  String getFile (int minlevel) const;
   /* Some platforms don't call destructors. So this call exists
* which guarantees to flush any log data...
* but doesn't call generic C++ destructors
Index: res.rc
===
RCS file: /cvs/cygwin-apps/setup/res.rc,v
retrieving revision 2.45
diff -u -p -r2.45 res.rc
--- res.rc  19 Jan 2003 20:31:53 -  2.45
+++ res.rc  1 Feb 2003 20:31:19 -
@@ -483,11 +483,12 @@ BEGIN
 IDS_DOWNLOAD_FAILED Unable to download %s
 IDS_DOWNLOAD_INCOMPLETE Download Incomplete.  Try again?
 IDS_INSTALL_ERROR  Installation error (%s), Continue with other packages?
-IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE  Installation incomplete.  Check 

Re: [PATCH] Re: [setup] Inaccurate message: See /setup.log.full

[Max Bowsher]

Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
 Incidentally, there are two backslash() functions defined: one in
 filemanip.h, and another in concat.h.  This is the only function
 defined 
 in concat.h, and it doesn't seem to be used anywhere anymore.  Is
 concat.h dead?  Should it be removed?  Ditto for concat.cc?

Seems so. Robert?



Max.

Re: [PATCH] Re: [setup] Inaccurate message: See /setup.log.full

[Robert Collins]

On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 07:37, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:


 Yes, it does recompile everything when resource.h is modified, but that
 only happens once.  A necessary evil...

Even so... resource.h urrghh.

 Sorry about the (null) bit.  Should be fixed now.  I also took your
 suggestion regarding log file.  The third iteration of the patch is
 attached...
 
 Incidentally, there are two backslash() functions defined: one in
 filemanip.h, and another in concat.h.  This is the only function defined
 in concat.h, and it doesn't seem to be used anywhere anymore.  Is concat.h
 dead?  Should it be removed?  Ditto for concat.cc?

Not sure, lets leave this for now.

   Igor
 
 ChangeLog:
 2002-10-17  Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   * res.rc (IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE): Change hard-coded
   log filename to %s.
   (IDS_MISSING_LOG): New string resource.
   * resource.h (IDS_MISSING_LOG): New resource.
   * LogFile.cc (LogFile::exit): Pass log filename for
   LOG_BABBLE to note().
   (LogFile::getFile): New function.
   * LogFile.h (LogFile::getFile): New function.

getFile should be getFilename or getFileName.

getFileName doesn't take a minlevel, it takes an exactLevel - your
parameter name is misleading, or you've got the logic in the loop wrong
:}.

IDS_MISSING_LOG should be No log was in use, not setup.log.full.
It'll be ugly in the output, but at least accurate.

Do those three changes, and I think this is ready. nice work guys.

Rob

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Re: [PATCH] Re: [setup] Inaccurate message: See /setup.log.full

[Max Bowsher]

Robert Collins wrote:
 getFileName doesn't take a minlevel, it takes an exactLevel - your
 parameter name is misleading, or you've got the logic in the loop
 wrong :}.

Or, you could say that it gets the file whose minlevel is what you request.
In which case its correct :-)

 IDS_MISSING_LOG should be No log was in use, not setup.log.full.
 It'll be ugly in the output, but at least accurate.

Check No log was in use for details.
That's worse than what we have in CVS now.

How about:

Index: LogFile.cc
===
RCS file: /home/max/cvsmirror/cygwin-apps-cvs/setup/LogFile.cc,v
retrieving revision 2.6
diff -u -p -r2.6 LogFile.cc
--- LogFile.cc 25 Nov 2002 00:41:24 - 2.6
+++ LogFile.cc 1 Feb 2003 21:18:17 -
@@ -31,6 +31,7 @@ static const char *cvsid =
 #include time.h
 #include string
 #include AntiVirus.h
+#include filemanip.h

 using namespace std;

@@ -101,9 +102,22 @@ LogFile::setFile (int minlevel, String c
   files.insert (t);
 }

+String
+LogFile::getFile (int minlevel) const
+{
+  for (FileSet::iterator i = files.begin();
+   i != files.end(); ++i)
+{
+  if (i-level == minlevel)
+return i-key;
+}
+  return String();
+}
+
 void
 LogFile::exit (int const exit_code)
 {
+  String tempString;
   AntiVirus::AtExit();
   static int been_here = 0;
   if (been_here)
@@ -114,8 +128,15 @@ LogFile::exit (int const exit_code)
 #endif
   been_here = 1;

+  if (exit_msg == IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE)
+{
+  tempString = backslash(getFile(LOG_BABBLE));
+  if (tempString.size() == 0)
+exit_msg = IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE_NO_LOG;
+}
+
   if (exit_msg)
-note (NULL, exit_msg);
+note (NULL, exit_msg, tempString.cstr_oneuse());

   log (LOG_TIMESTAMP)  Ending cygwin install  endLog;

Index: LogFile.h
===
RCS file: /home/max/cvsmirror/cygwin-apps-cvs/setup/LogFile.h,v
retrieving revision 2.3
diff -u -p -r2.3 LogFile.h
--- LogFile.h 10 Nov 2002 03:56:05 - 2.3
+++ LogFile.h 1 Feb 2003 20:48:07 -
@@ -23,6 +23,7 @@ public:
   LogFile();
   void clearFiles(); // delete all target filenames
   void setFile (int minlevel, String const path, bool append);
+  String getFile (int minlevel) const;
   /* Some platforms don't call destructors. So this call exists
* which guarantees to flush any log data...
* but doesn't call generic C++ destructors
Index: res.rc
===
RCS file: /home/max/cvsmirror/cygwin-apps-cvs/setup/res.rc,v
retrieving revision 2.45
diff -u -p -r2.45 res.rc
--- res.rc 19 Jan 2003 20:31:53 - 2.45
+++ res.rc 1 Feb 2003 21:14:55 -
@@ -483,7 +483,8 @@ BEGIN
 IDS_DOWNLOAD_FAILED Unable to download %s
 IDS_DOWNLOAD_INCOMPLETE Download Incomplete.  Try again?
 IDS_INSTALL_ERROR Installation error (%s), Continue with other
packages?
-IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE  Installation incomplete.  Check
/setup.log.full for details
+IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE  Installation incomplete.  Check %s for
details
+IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE_NO_LOG  Installation incomplete.  No log was in
use
 IDS_VERSION_INFOSetup.exe version %1
 IDS_CYGWIN_SETUPCygwin Setup
 IDS_CYGWIN_SETUP_WITH_PROGRESS %1!d!%% - Cygwin Setup
Index: resource.h
===
RCS file: /home/max/cvsmirror/cygwin-apps-cvs/setup/resource.h,v
retrieving revision 2.20
diff -u -p -r2.20 resource.h
--- resource.h 19 Jan 2003 20:31:53 - 2.20
+++ resource.h 1 Feb 2003 21:14:00 -
@@ -30,6 +30,7 @@
 #define IDS_VERSION_INFO28
 #define IDS_CYGWIN_SETUP29
 #define IDS_CYGWIN_SETUP_WITH_PROGRESS  30
+#define IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE_NO_LOG   31
 #define IDD_ROOT101
 #define IDD_SOURCE  102
 #define IDD_OTHER_URL   103

Re: [PATCH] Re: [setup] Inaccurate message: See /setup.log.full

[Max Bowsher]

Max Bowsher wrote:
 Robert Collins wrote:
 getFileName doesn't take a minlevel, it takes an exactLevel - your
 parameter name is misleading, or you've got the logic in the loop
 wrong :}.

 Or, you could say that it gets the file whose minlevel is what you
 request. In which case its correct :-)

 IDS_MISSING_LOG should be No log was in use, not setup.log.full.
 It'll be ugly in the output, but at least accurate.

 Check No log was in use for details.
 That's worse than what we have in CVS now.

 How about:

Or maybe not, since setup just terminated abnormally when I forced getFile
to always return an empty string.

Not immediately sure where that crash came from, and I've run out of time to
spend in front of the computer for today.

Anyway, you get the idea of what I was trying to do:

 Index: LogFile.cc
 ===
 +  if (exit_msg == IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE)
 +{
 +  tempString = backslash(getFile(LOG_BABBLE));
 +  if (tempString.size() == 0)
 +exit_msg = IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE_NO_LOG;
 +}


Max.

Re: [PATCH] Re: [setup] Inaccurate message: See /setup.log.full

[Robert Collins]

On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 08:22, Max Bowsher wrote:
 Robert Collins wrote:
  getFileName doesn't take a minlevel, it takes an exactLevel - your
  parameter name is misleading, or you've got the logic in the loop
  wrong :}.
 
 Or, you could say that it gets the file whose minlevel is what you request.
 In which case its correct :-)

Huh? min stands for minimum. In the log context that makes sense, as you
are passed different levels of log entries. but for a search through the
log files?

It is misleading on first read, and thats the point.
perhaps 'minLevelOfLogFile' would be better.

  IDS_MISSING_LOG should be No log was in use, not setup.log.full.
  It'll be ugly in the output, but at least accurate.
 
 Check No log was in use for details.
 That's worse than what we have in CVS now.

No it's not, because the current setup code *always* uses a log file of
the appropriate level. It's a fallback to catch future changes.

 How about:

No. I like Igors approach better.
For yours, we end up with duplicate resources : you should split the
'installation incomplete' and the log to check into two separate
messages.
Secondly, you've still got getFile unrenamed. Let me clarify this point:
we have a structure for each file we are logging to. getFile should
return one of those structures - not the name of the file. However, as
we only care about the name today, getFileName will both not collide
with getFile, and be clear what it does from the header.
Lastly we should be looking at how we pull conditionals out of LogFile,
not inserting them.

Rob
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Re: [PATCH] Re: [setup] Inaccurate message: See /setup.log.full

[Max Bowsher]

Robert Collins wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 08:22, Max Bowsher wrote:
 Robert Collins wrote:
 IDS_MISSING_LOG should be No log was in use, not setup.log.full.
 It'll be ugly in the output, but at least accurate.

 Check No log was in use for details.
 That's worse than what we have in CVS now.

 No it's not, because the current setup code *always* uses a log file
 of the appropriate level. It's a fallback to catch future changes.

Well, at least make it no log was in use (with the brackets) to make the
message easier to read.

 How about:

 No. I like Igors approach better.
 For yours, we end up with duplicate resources : you should split the
 'installation incomplete' and the log to check into two separate
 messages.

Then you have to tangle with temporary buffers to combine them.

 Secondly, you've still got getFile unrenamed. Let me clarify this
 point:
 we have a structure for each file we are logging to. getFile should
 return one of those structures - not the name of the file. However, as
 we only care about the name today, getFileName will both not collide
 with getFile, and be clear what it does from the header.

Sure, I wasn't attempting to address this issue.

 Lastly we should be looking at how we pull conditionals out of
 LogFile,
 not inserting them.

I can't see how else to acheive the result I intended without major
restructuring.


Max.

Re: [PATCH] Re: [setup] Inaccurate message: See /setup.log.full

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On 2 Feb 2003, Robert Collins wrote:

 On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 07:37, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:

  Yes, it does recompile everything when resource.h is modified, but that
  only happens once.  A necessary evil...

 Even so... resource.h urrghh.

  Sorry about the (null) bit.  Should be fixed now.  I also took your
  suggestion regarding log file.  The third iteration of the patch is
  attached...
Igor
  
  ChangeLog:
  2002-10-17  Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
* res.rc (IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE): Change hard-coded
log filename to %s.
(IDS_MISSING_LOG): New string resource.
* resource.h (IDS_MISSING_LOG): New resource.
* LogFile.cc (LogFile::exit): Pass log filename for
LOG_BABBLE to note().
(LogFile::getFile): New function.
* LogFile.h (LogFile::getFile): New function.

 getFile should be getFilename or getFileName.

 getFileName doesn't take a minlevel, it takes an exactLevel - your
 parameter name is misleading, or you've got the logic in the loop wrong
 :}.

 IDS_MISSING_LOG should be No log was in use, not setup.log.full.
 It'll be ugly in the output, but at least accurate.

 Do those three changes, and I think this is ready. nice work guys.

 Rob

Rob,

I was mislead by the setFile() prototype.  I agree with your proposed
changes (and Max's use of angle brackets).  Take four is attached.
Thanks.
Igor
==
ChangeLog:
2003-02-01  Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* res.rc (IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE): Change hard-coded
log filename to %s.
(IDS_MISSING_LOG): New string resource.
* resource.h (IDS_MISSING_LOG): New resource.
* LogFile.cc (LogFile::exit): Pass log filename for
LOG_BABBLE to note().
(LogFile::getFileName): New function.
* LogFile.h (LogFile::getFileName): New function.

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Index: LogFile.cc
===
RCS file: /cvs/cygwin-apps/setup/LogFile.cc,v
retrieving revision 2.6
diff -u -p -r2.6 LogFile.cc
--- LogFile.cc  25 Nov 2002 00:41:24 -  2.6
+++ LogFile.cc  1 Feb 2003 23:11:30 -
@@ -31,6 +31,8 @@ static const char *cvsid =
 #include time.h
 #include string
 #include AntiVirus.h
+#include filemanip.h
+#include cistring.h
 
 using namespace std;
 
@@ -101,6 +103,20 @@ LogFile::setFile (int minlevel, String c
   files.insert (t);
 }
 
+String
+LogFile::getFileName (int level) const
+{
+  for (FileSet::iterator i = files.begin();
+   i != files.end(); ++i)
+{
+  if (i-level == level)
+return i-key;
+}
+  cistring bad_file;
+  bad_file.Format(IDS_MISSING_LOG);
+  return bad_file.c_str();
+}
+
 void
 LogFile::exit (int const exit_code)
 {
@@ -115,7 +131,7 @@ LogFile::exit (int const exit_code)
   been_here = 1;
   
   if (exit_msg)
-note (NULL, exit_msg);
+note (NULL, exit_msg, backslash(getFileName(LOG_BABBLE)).cstr_oneuse());
   
   log (LOG_TIMESTAMP)  Ending cygwin install  endLog;
 
Index: LogFile.h
===
RCS file: /cvs/cygwin-apps/setup/LogFile.h,v
retrieving revision 2.3
diff -u -p -r2.3 LogFile.h
--- LogFile.h   10 Nov 2002 03:56:05 -  2.3
+++ LogFile.h   1 Feb 2003 23:11:30 -
@@ -23,6 +23,7 @@ public:
   LogFile();
   void clearFiles(); // delete all target filenames
   void setFile (int minlevel, String const path, bool append);
+  String getFileName (int level) const;
   /* Some platforms don't call destructors. So this call exists
* which guarantees to flush any log data...
* but doesn't call generic C++ destructors
Index: res.rc
===
RCS file: /cvs/cygwin-apps/setup/res.rc,v
retrieving revision 2.45
diff -u -p -r2.45 res.rc
--- res.rc  19 Jan 2003 20:31:53 -  2.45
+++ res.rc  1 Feb 2003 23:11:47 -
@@ -483,11 +483,12 @@ BEGIN
 IDS_DOWNLOAD_FAILED Unable to download %s
 IDS_DOWNLOAD_INCOMPLETE Download Incomplete.  Try again?
 IDS_INSTALL_ERROR  Installation error (%s), Continue with other packages?
-IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE  Installation incomplete.  Check /setup.log.full for 
details
+IDS_INSTALL_INCOMPLETE  Installation incomplete.  Check %s for details
 IDS_VERSION_INFOSetup.exe version %1
 IDS_CYGWIN_SETUPCygwin Setup
 IDS_CYGWIN_SETUP_WITH_PROGRESS 

Re: [PATCH] Re: [setup] Inaccurate message: See /setup.log.full

[Igor Pechtchanski]

I've sent this a couple of hours ago, but it didn't appear in the
web archive, so I'm resending it.  If the original does get through,
apologies for the duplicate.

On 2 Feb 2003, Robert Collins wrote:

 On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 07:37, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:

 [snip]

  Incidentally, there are two backslash() functions defined: one in
  filemanip.h, and another in concat.h.  This is the only function defined
  in concat.h, and it doesn't seem to be used anywhere anymore.  Is concat.h
  dead?  Should it be removed?  Ditto for concat.cc?

 Not sure, lets leave this for now.

 Rob

FYI, I've built setup without concat.h and concat.cc, and it seems to be
working fine.  I'm attaching a patch that removes all references to
concat.* files (most of the size is due to the generated Makefile.in
changes).  After applying the patch, you'll have to cvs rm concat.*,
sorry (I don't know how to do this with patch).
Igor

ChangeLog:

2003-02-01  Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* String++.cc: Don't include concat.h.
* Makefile.am: Remove concat.cc and concat.h references.
* Makefile.in: Regenerate.
* concat.h: Remove.
* concat.cc: Remove.

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Index: String++.cc
===
RCS file: /cvs/cygwin-apps/setup/String++.cc,v
retrieving revision 2.7
diff -u -p -r2.7 String++.cc
--- String++.cc 10 Nov 2002 03:56:05 -  2.7
+++ String++.cc 1 Feb 2003 23:39:27 -
@@ -18,7 +18,6 @@
 #include String++.h
 #include string.h
 #include ctype.h
-#include concat.h
 #include io_stream.h
 #include iostream
 #include sstream
Index: Makefile.am
===
RCS file: /cvs/cygwin-apps/setup/Makefile.am,v
retrieving revision 2.24
diff -u -p -r2.24 Makefile.am
--- Makefile.am 25 Nov 2002 00:41:24 -  2.24
+++ Makefile.am 1 Feb 2003 23:39:26 -
@@ -137,8 +137,6 @@ setup_SOURCES = \
compress_bz.h \
compress_gz.cc \
compress_gz.h \
-   concat.cc \
-   concat.h \
cygpackage.cc \
cygpackage.h \
desktop.cc \
Index: Makefile.in
===
RCS file: /cvs/cygwin-apps/setup/Makefile.in,v
retrieving revision 2.86
diff -u -p -r2.86 Makefile.in
--- Makefile.in 25 Nov 2002 00:41:24 -  2.86
+++ Makefile.in 1 Feb 2003 23:39:26 -
@@ -276,8 +276,6 @@ setup_SOURCES = \
compress_bz.h \
compress_gz.cc \
compress_gz.h \
-   concat.cc \
-   concat.h \
cygpackage.cc \
cygpackage.h \
desktop.cc \
@@ -447,32 +445,31 @@ am__setup_SOURCES_DIST = AntiVirus.cc An
archive_tar.cc archive_tar.h archive_tar_file.cc autoload.c \
category.cc category.h choose.cc choose.h cistring.cc \
cistring.h compress.cc compress.h compress_bz.cc compress_bz.h \
-   compress_gz.cc compress_gz.h concat.cc concat.h cygpackage.cc \
-   cygpackage.h desktop.cc desktop.h dialog.cc dialog.h \
-   diskfull.cc diskfull.h download.cc download.h Exception.cc \
-   Exception.h find.cc find.h FindVisitor.cc FindVisitor.h \
-   filemanip.cc filemanip.h fromcwd.cc geturl.cc geturl.h hash.cc \
-   hash.h ini.cc ini.h IniDBBuilder.cc IniDBBuilder.h \
-   IniDBBuilderPackage.cc IniDBBuilderPackage.h inilex.cc \
-   iniparse.cc iniparse.h IniParseFeedback.cc IniParseFeedback.h \
-   IniParseFindVisitor.cc IniParseFindVisitor.h install.cc \
-   io_stream.cc io_stream.h io_stream_cygfile.cc \
-   io_stream_cygfile.h io_stream_file.cc io_stream_file.h \
-   io_stream_memory.cc io_stream_memory.h IOStreamProvider.h \
-   localdir.cc localdir.h log.cc log.h LogFile.cc LogFile.h \
-   LogSingleton.cc LogSingleton.h main.cc md5.c md5.h MD5++.cc \
-   MD5++.h mkdir.cc mkdir.h mklink2.cc mklink2.h mount.cc mount.h \
-   msg.cc msg.h net.cc net.h netio.cc netio.h nio-ie5.cc nio-ie5.h \
-   nio-file.cc nio-file.h nio-ftp.cc nio-ftp.h nio-http.cc \
-   nio-http.h package_db.cc package_db.h package_meta.cc \
-   package_meta.h package_source.cc package_source.h \
-   package_version.cc package_version.h PackageSpecification.cc \
-   PackageSpecification.h PackageTrust.h PickCategoryLine.cc \
-   PickCategoryLine.h PickLine.cc PickLine.h PickPackageLine.cc \
-   PickPackageLine.h PickView.cc PickView.h port.h 

RE: [PATCH] Re: [setup] Inaccurate message: See /setup.log.full

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

   No. I like Igors approach better.
   For yours, we end up with duplicate resources : you should split the
   'installation incomplete' and the log to check into two separate
   messages.
  
  Then you have to tangle with temporary buffers to combine them.
 
 That should be trivial with the string classes, and if it's not, then
 that sounds like a call for a method or operator on cistring.
 

Or a Grand Unified String Class, i.e. subsuming cistring into String.

So many issues, so little time

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Brewer.  Patriot. 

Kylix 3 OE / Xfree86 error

[Fabio Rossetti]

I'm testing Kylix 3 OE running on a Redhat 8 box, using a remote XFree86 via
XDM on my W2K machine (kinda awkward on paper but practical in my
situation). It's the latest XFree86 in the cygwin distribution.
Gnome/KDE runs apparently very fine, Kylix IDE starts, but as soon as I get
to
the code window there comes a requester with a 'Division by Zero Error'. On
the local linux X-Server there is no error. Using the commercial X-Win32
also via XDM does NOT give the error (but the graphical rendering is
poorer).
I have tried all the window managers I had on hand, same error, I've tried
switching xdm with gdm etc, same error. The only way to circumvent the error
is to start XFree86 locally with one of its local windows managers, login
via ssh on the RH box and start Kylix redirecting it to the remote Xfree via
the DISPLAY environment variable.
Any hint or possible workaround ? The rest of graphical applications I have
tried seem to run
fine.

Re: xterm Page-Up -- does it work?

[Shing-Fat Fred Ma]

  No.  And also, page up seems to work on xterms
  running on remote sun boxes.  I access the remote
  twm desktop from the same laptop, using VNC.
  Same PageUp keys.  Exact same Xresources
  and .twmrc .  Go figure.
 
  Fred
 
  P.S.  I gather that it works for you?

 Yes, though I hit shift-pgup.  Works the same in a regular xterm or a
 remote gnome-terminal, etc.

 Cary

Actually..Shift-PageUp works for me too!  That's
different from twm on the sun boxes (solaris 8).
Thanks alot!

Fred

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Re: What do people use Xfree86 for? [cgf]

[Harold L Hunt II]

Chris,

You wanna ban this troll?

Harold

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

BULLSHIT 

NOT A GOOD EXPLAINATION

USE FOR REMTELY CONNECTING TO A UNIX BOX N USE REMOTE APPLICATIONS.
YA CAN DOWNLOAD FREE XSERVER FROM
http://www.thecyborg.com/howto/xserver.html




Fred,




I actually use Cygwin/XFree86 to run xfig on my laptop while I am doing 
my math and computer science homework at the library.  That is the most 
useful local app that I use.  Other than that I tend to open XDMCP 
sessions to my linux boxen so that I can login and use KDE.  That's 
about it.



Harold




fred wrote:
Hello,

I just ran Xfree86.  Very, very nice.
Just like sitting on the sun boxes
at school.  All the twm setup files
and Xresources work the same.  It was
so alike (and tons faster) that I got
carried away and starting to invoke
apps like I do from school.  That's
where the similarity ended.  All the
apps fired up outside of Xwindows.
That's OK, my relationship with windows
is one of like-hate.  It has some pretty
handy features, but I tear my head off
about some things.

But, given that cygwin's X runs within
Windows, and any apps you invoke fire
up in MS windows (that's the way it
should be because the apps were written
to use the MS windows features), what
do people actually use X for?  I've
found that despite the mighty coolness,
all I do is open up an xterm and start
an ssh tunnel to school, with port
forwarding.  Then I do everything else
from MS windows.  With the virtual
scrolling of the touchpad, and the
rather effortless cut-and-paste, I
don't mind it at all.  But it sort of
makes me wonderwhy?

Fred

P.S.  This is not a knock down of X
on cygwin, I think it's really cool.
It's astounding that it was even
possible.  I'm wondering if I'm not
making as much use of it as I could.

Re: What do people use Xfree86 for? [cgf]

[huntharo]

BULLSHIT FUCKIN TROLL KIDZ CANT TAKE A COMMENT... LOL









-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 9:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What do people use Xfree86 for? [cgf]

Chris,

You wanna ban this troll?

Harold

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 BULLSHIT 
 
 NOT A GOOD EXPLAINATION
 
 USE FOR REMTELY CONNECTING TO A UNIX BOX N USE REMOTE APPLICATIONS.
 YA CAN DOWNLOAD FREE XSERVER FROM
 http://www.thecyborg.com/howto/xserver.html
 
 
 
 
Fred,
 
 
I actually use Cygwin/XFree86 to run xfig on my laptop while I am doing 
my math and computer science homework at the library.  That is the most 
useful local app that I use.  Other than that I tend to open XDMCP 
sessions to my linux boxen so that I can login and use KDE.  That's 
about it.
 
 
Harold
 
 
fred wrote:
Hello,

I just ran Xfree86.  Very, very nice.
Just like sitting on the sun boxes
at school.  All the twm setup files
and Xresources work the same.  It was
so alike (and tons faster) that I got
carried away and starting to invoke
apps like I do from school.  That's
where the similarity ended.  All the
apps fired up outside of Xwindows.
That's OK, my relationship with windows
is one of like-hate.  It has some pretty
handy features, but I tear my head off
about some things.

But, given that cygwin's X runs within
Windows, and any apps you invoke fire
up in MS windows (that's the way it
should be because the apps were written
to use the MS windows features), what
do people actually use X for?  I've
found that despite the mighty coolness,
all I do is open up an xterm and start
an ssh tunnel to school, with port
forwarding.  Then I do everything else
from MS windows.  With the virtual
scrolling of the touchpad, and the
rather effortless cut-and-paste, I
don't mind it at all.  But it sort of
makes me wonderwhy?

Fred

P.S.  This is not a knock down of X
on cygwin, I think it's really cool.
It's astounding that it was even
possible.  I'm wondering if I'm not
making as much use of it as I could.

 
 
 
 

Re: What do people use xfree86 for? [cgf]

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 12:26:28AM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
You wanna ban this troll?

Done.

FWIW, the pathetic little idiot tried three times to send his
inarticulate response before he hit on the clever plan of masquerading
as you.  I'll be sending a complaint to his ISP about this.

cgf

src/winsup/w32api ChangeLog include/prsht.h

[dannysmith]

CVSROOT:/cvs/src
Module name:src
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   2003-02-01 08:53:17

Modified files:
winsup/w32api  : ChangeLog 
winsup/w32api/include: prsht.h 

Log message:
2003-02-01  Jesus Alvarez  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Danny Smith  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* include/prsht.h (PSP_*, PSH_*): Add missing defines.
(PROPSHEETPAGE[AW]): Add pszHeaderTitle, pszHeaderSubTitle
for (_WIN32_IE = 0x0400).
(PROPSHEETHEADER[AW]): Add hplWatermark and anonymous union
fields for (_WIN32_IE = 0x0400).

Patches:
http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/w32api/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.322r2=1.323
http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/w32api/include/prsht.h.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.3r2=1.4

src/winsup/cygwin ChangeLog grp.cc passwd.cc p ...

[cgf]

CVSROOT:/cvs/src
Module name:src
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-02-01 18:41:29

Modified files:
winsup/cygwin  : ChangeLog grp.cc passwd.cc pwdgrp.h 

Log message:
* grp.cc (getgrent32): Only refresh group entries when at beginning.
(internal_getgrsid): Only refresh if uninitialized.
(internal_getgrent): Ditto.
* passwd.cc (getpwent): Only refresh passwd entries when at beginning.
(pwdgrp::read_passwd): linebuf *cannot* be NO_COPY.
(internal_getpwsid): Only refresh if uninitialized.
(getpass): No need to refresh passwd data here.
* pwdgrp.h (refresh): Eliminate default.

Patches:
http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.1732r2=1.1733
http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/grp.cc.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.73r2=1.74
http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/passwd.cc.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.67r2=1.68
http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/pwdgrp.h.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.19r2=1.20

Problem with makewhatis

[Bernadette et Luc Henninger]

Hello,

I have problem with makewhatis that may be related to sh:

$ /usr/sbin/makewhatis -v -u
/usr/sbin/makewhatis: cannot create /dev/stderr: directory nonexistent

$ bash /usr/sbin/makewhatis -v -u
about to enter /usr/man

$ cygcheck -c man bash ash
Cygwin Package Information
Package Version
ash 20020731-1
bash2.05b-8
man 1.5j-1

Regards




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Example perl code newgroup charters

[fred]

Hello,

I'm using Perl v5.6.1 built for cygwin-multi.
It runs on cygwin  1.3.19-1.  I'm going thru
some example code in man perlintro:

 my $variables = {
 scalar  =  {
  description = single item,
  sigil = '$',
 },
 array   =  {
  description = ordered list of items,
  sigil = '@',
 },
 hash=  {
  description = key/value pairs,
  sigil = '%',
 },
 };

 print Scalars begin with a $variables-{'scalar'}-{'sigil'}\n;

All it prints is


Scalars begin with a $


I don't want to jump to conclusions
and say it's wrong, but it sure seems
strange for the point being illustrated.
Is it correct?  If not, what might be
wrong?  Do other users of this perl
version (and/or cygwin version) have
the same problem?

I tried to find the charter for these
newsgroups via google (searching for
charter in the subject line, as well
as in general for some of the groups).
Can anyone refer me to this?  Thanks.

Fred


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Re: Example perl code newgroup charters (SOLVED)

[f]

Hi,

Please ignore my previous posting.  Perls is behaving
exactly as intended.  My brain is just dead, that's all.

Fred

fred wrote:


Hello,

I'm using Perl v5.6.1 built for cygwin-multi.
It runs on cygwin  1.3.19-1.  I'm going thru
some example code in man perlintro:

 my $variables = {
 scalar  =  {
  description = single item,
  sigil = '$',
 },
 array   =  {
  description = ordered list of items,
  sigil = '@',
 },
 hash=  {
  description = key/value pairs,
  sigil = '%',
 },
 };

 print Scalars begin with a $variables-{'scalar'}-{'sigil'}\n;

All it prints is


Scalars begin with a $



I don't want to jump to conclusions
and say it's wrong, but it sure seems
strange for the point being illustrated.
Is it correct?  If not, what might be
wrong?  Do other users of this perl
version (and/or cygwin version) have
the same problem?

I tried to find the charter for these
newsgroups via google (searching for
charter in the subject line, as well
as in general for some of the groups).
Can anyone refer me to this?  Thanks.

Fred





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Re: Can't see full list in setup.exe

[root]

Hi,

I've removed cygwin from my system.
Still get the same problem with setup.exe.

Have you a debug version of the installer?


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RE: CygWin Installation

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

 In over 30 years of computer/it experience I have never seen anything as
 convoluted and
 difficult to use as your CygWin download/installer.


Yeah, thanks Bensky, but your money's no good here.  Go get your Unix-on-Windows
utilities from a less convoluted and difficult to use source.

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RE: CygWin Installation

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

 I assume you never did an early slackware linux install then.
 

I tried to once.  Once...

Sorry, I don't like to talk about it.

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/usr/bin/tar: Archive value 88578 is out of uid_t range 0..65535

[Peter J. Acklam]

I use the cpan shell to install Perl modules, but I often get the
error messages like

   /usr/bin/tar: Archive value 88578 is out of uid_t range 0..65535

and tar ends with a non-zero exit status so the module won't
install.  How can I get around this?  Are there any plans of
supporting higher uids than 65535 in Cygwin?

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cross compiling

[thomas]

hi,

i want to compile cygwin apps in linux. i've searched both the cygwin and
the cygwin-dev lists but i can't seem to find much information about it.
cgf apparently does it and knows how to do it.
so if someone can point me in a direction that'd be great.

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RE: /usr/bin/tar: Archive value 88578 is out of uid_t range 0..65535

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

 I use the cpan shell to install Perl modules, but I often get the
 error messages like

/usr/bin/tar: Archive value 88578 is out of uid_t range 0..65535

 and tar ends with a non-zero exit status so the module won't
 install.  How can I get around this?  Are there any plans of
 supporting higher uids than 65535 in Cygwin?


If I'm not mistaken, there's actually work about to begin on exactly that
shortly.

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Setup hangs repetedly

[Martin Magnusson]

I have used Cygwin for a few months now. I'm trying to reinstall it with 
a couple of extra packages, but I've run into serious trouble.

Downloading seems to work fine, but while installing setup just hangs, 
randomly (with no error message). When looking at setup.log I see a lot 
of calls to compress_bz::error. Is that normal? I included the tail of 
setup.log below. I've tried both the setup.exe on the web site and 
setup-2.303.exe. I'm trying to install with the default settings, but 
with all Devel and Publishing packages, and OpenGL.

2003/02/01 13:20:01 Installing 
file://D:\temp\cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2fftp.sunet.se%2fpub%2flang%2fcygwin/release/gcc-mingw/gcc-mingw-20020817-5.tar.bz2
2003/02/01 13:20:01 compress_bz::error called
2003/02/01 13:20:02 Installing 
file://D:\temp\cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2fftp.sunet.se%2fpub%2flang%2fcygwin/release/gcc2/gcc2-2.95.3-10.tar.bz2
2003/02/01 13:20:02 compress_bz::error called
2003/02/01 13:23:53 Ending cygwin install

/ Martin


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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[Colin Harrison]

Hi,

I'm getting the same sort of problems:-
compress+bz::error calls + blank chooser lines and various hangs.
I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use.

Colin

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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[Max Bowsher]

Martin Magnusson wrote:
 I have used Cygwin for a few months now. I'm trying to reinstall it
 with a couple of extra packages, but I've run into serious trouble.

 Downloading seems to work fine, but while installing setup just hangs,
 randomly (with no error message). When looking at setup.log I see a
 lot of calls to compress_bz::error. Is that normal?

Yes. The compress_bz class lacks any error handling. That log message is
basically a loud fixme.

Please describe exactly where setup hangs.
Does it hang if you download only first, and then re-run setup, choosing
install from local directory?


Max.


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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[Max Bowsher]

Colin Harrison wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm getting the same sort of problems:-
 compress+bz::error calls + blank chooser lines and various hangs.
 I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use.

You might like to consider that many *many* people use Cygwin and don't have
these problems. In fact, I'd characterize it as release-quality. Bugs
happen, but they happen rarely.

I'm sorry you have problems, but you might like to bear in mind that you
have provided very little information concerning what your problem is. We
are not clairvoyant. I do not experience this problem, and I do not recall
any previous reports of anything like it. We have no hope of fixing a bug,
when we don't even know exactly what it is.

If you are fed up with Cygwin, fine.

If you want to try and get this bug fixed, I suggest you post a link to a
screenshot of the problem. If you don't have any suitable webspace, then
email it directly to me - *not the list*.



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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[Martin Magnusson]

Max Bowsher wrote:

Please describe exactly where setup hangs.

It happens after download, during install. But it hangs at different 
files each time. Somtimes it hangs at 4%, sometimes at 29% etc.

Does it hang if you download only first, and then re-run setup, choosing
install from local directory?

Yes, same problem when I do it that way.

/ Martin


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Clippy Sightings in Cygwinland? (was: RE: Can't see full list in setup.exe)

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

 Hi,

 I'm running 'Windows Classic' 'no effects' 'Color quality Medium 16 bit'

 'Adjust for best performance'

 In other words I strip out all the Microsoft clutter from my desktop?
 No silly dogs, animated paper clips or WMP 9's in sight!
 

Hmmm are you *sure* Clippy isn't lurking around somewhere?

Perhaps somewhere you'd least expect Clippy to be?


 Ooop's showing my unix heritage again.


That's alright... BECAUSE SO IS CLIPPY!:


 J38$@$$6
  XJ~^$6JX88@88$
 J~/6@@3
 //@  3J8
J3@@  J/@X
  @6J3@@ J;3$
   J3@   J3$JJJJ
   $33$$ 8@J$$2226266626662622X
 ^63@6   /J@22@@(2(2$2666$$666$$2262(222(2
   J/;3/38   $;~//J3$$X$@(X22X2(26226$26X(X22
   @#863X33X$6  / ;@3$8~J~J//(J(J(2J
  8@@8 6$J~6/33_~~:~J(2J
  X8@$   /28$$33J3X68~~~/~;;///JJJ2JJ~
  X3@8  _~~:: X@@8$~___
  X3@83$8J~~X$@X   _@8J:   :  ::__`_J~
  J$@8$@@2__~X$@6~J$@$J~~~:^_:`_
  J$8$6@@ J$#X  J8@~ :_ __  :`_  :  ___~:
   $@$688XJ886~2X@$~~~XX2222~~`:
   $@$X#8X :   ;88$_36$_JJJ~~~J;
  :$@86@38_ :   $@$~$#3J(J~__~J262J^_
 : X@8J838~ :   J@3J$@XX~__  :``:^J_:: _
   J@/$J@36 ~@J8$@8X~~J2262X___
   __J@X8@83 : _/$3X$@@8/__^_J~~~__~
 _^_ _2:6@3X2@@3~//38$$22@@822JX2$88$$22_:
2~@/$__#$8@8$2
  _2:^: @@/_ _ __222$22X@@622$$W8W86$$22_
~: ^ ^@@322$22J66(((J
::^_2@@6(F2/$@22222::__
 2  _^::^ 2@/J8$$$6J@X$22^~J
  22 ^~^^@@@3/;///8862222^_~ _
 _^~:^:228@8$_2
_~~_~^_^22:^_~
   __ ~^^2
J~^

Hello Colin!  BLINK!  It looks like you're using vi!  SCRIBBLE!  Mind if I
irritate you?  TWIST SELF INTO STAR SHAPE!  What would you like to do?:

- Type a character?
- Save a file?
- Install a different text editor?


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RE: CygWin Installation

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

 On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Sy or Ursula Bensky wrote:
 
  The installation would be much simplified if it was available as a 
  tarball or.ZIP file.
 
 Ooh, just what I wanted!  A 1.6Gb tar or .ZIP file :)
 Let's see you download *that* over your 56k modem!
 (sorry, just couldn't resist...)
 

I'll save him the trouble and email it to him. ;-)

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Re: Apache corrupt big file

[Tetsu KOUNO]

Hi,

I have tried various condition to resolve the problem.

(1) cygwin1.dll versions
   1.3.16, 1.3.18 and 1.3.19 ...still corrupts the file.
   I can not find 1.3.10-2 on download sites.

(2) Apache version
   1.3.27 ...still corrupts the file.

(3) internal loopback
   download the big file from localhost.
   ...still corrupts the file, but gets twice correct data.

(4) LoadModules
   remove LoadModules as much as possible to download the file.
   ...still corrupts the file.

(5) Number of servers
   set the number of servers to one, by StartServers, MinSpareServers/MaxSpareServers 
directives.
   ...still corrupts the file.

(6) ServerType
   ServerType inetd  ... successful!!
   Maybe, same reason to ftp download was successful.

Any idea?

Regards,
Tetsu KOUNO




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Re: Can't see full list in setup.exe

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, root wrote:

 Hi,

 I've removed cygwin from my system.
 Still get the same problem with setup.exe.

 Have you a debug version of the installer?

Try downloading the source for setup and building it from that.  Since you
can't see the packages for some reason, a direct link to the source tarball is
ftp://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/release/setup/setup-2.249.2.5-1-src.tar.bz2.
Instructions for compiling are at http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin-apps/setup.html.
Enjoy.
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Re: Latest TCL/TK breaks Python's tkinter

[Paul Stodghill]

 I have built a new tkinter that works with the latest Tcl/Tk
 and a Cygwin DLL built from the CVS source

 If anyone wantw to try just dropping this on top of the older one
 I have temporarily placed it on the web at
 http://www.vso.cape.com/~nhv/files/python/tkinter.tgz

 feedback as to if this works appreciated

I installed tcltk-20030128-3 (which I haven't seen announced yet) and
reinstalled python-2.2.2-4 - tkinter did not work, as expected.

I then dropped your _tkinter.dll in place. tkinter now works.

Thanks.


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Re: Can't see full list in setup.exe

[Max Bowsher]

Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
 On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, root wrote:

 Hi,

 I've removed cygwin from my system.
 Still get the same problem with setup.exe.

 Have you a debug version of the installer?

 Try downloading the source for setup and building it from that.
 Since you
 can't see the packages for some reason, a direct link to the source
 tarball is

ftp://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/release/setup/setup-2.249.2.5-1-src.tar.bz
2.
 Instructions for compiling are at
 http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin-apps/setup.html. Enjoy.

That won't work, I'm afraid. The current instructions on that webpage are
for building with gcc 3. But setup didn't support building with gcc 3 until
recently. You could try the setup-2.303 source from the snapshots area. But
you cannot easily (at all?) build setup without Cygwin installed.


Max.




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Re: /usr/bin/tclsh84

[Jonathan Larmour]

Chris Faylor wrote:

On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 03:13:47AM +, Jonathan Larmour wrote:

Ah another day another tclsh.


Ah, another hour, another tcl/tk whinge.


:-).


Even if it's only a soft link to the most recently installed tclshNN
(like RPM post-install scripts do for the linux kernel etc.).  I know
cygwin has got post-install scripts, so any reason not to?


I don't know what post-install scripts have to do with anything but I'll
add symbolic links to everything in the cygwin tcl release if it stops
just one of these tcl/tk complaints.


This one should be easy to stop at least :).

Well the idea is that every time a new tcl package installs it runs: ln 
-sf tclsh84 /usr/bin/tclsh in a postinstall stage, substituting for 
whatever tcl version it is.

Or you could include the symlink directly in the tarball^Wcygwin package 
if it can cope with that, and you never expect people to have two tcl 
versions installed at the same time causing a conflict. But I guess you 
don't since /usr/lib/tclConfig.sh also exists without version suffix.

Anyway, whichever. As long as /usr/bin/tclsh ends up pointing to any 
installed tclsh version, I'm not fussy.

Is the attached patch sufficient? Is anything required to ensure it 
doesn't get lost in subsequent imports?

Jifl
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fi
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@$(INSTALL_PROGRAM) tclsh $(BIN_INSTALL_DIR)/tclsh$(VERSION)
+   @echo Linking $(BIN_INSTALL_DIR)/tclsh to $(BIN_INSTALL_DIR)/tclsh$(VERSION)
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@$(INSTALL_DATA) tclConfig.sh $(LIB_INSTALL_DIR)/tclConfig.sh
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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[Pavel Tsekov]

On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Martin Magnusson wrote:

 Max Bowsher wrote:
  Please describe exactly where setup hangs.
 It happens after download, during install. But it hangs at different 
 files each time. Somtimes it hangs at 4%, sometimes at 29% etc.
 
  Does it hang if you download only first, and then re-run setup, choosing
  install from local directory?
 Yes, same problem when I do it that way.

Now this is a hell of a bugreport... Would you care to be more specific ? 
What choices do you make on the various pages of the setup wizard. What 
does it mean hang for you ? Is it that the setup application just sits 
and waits for a very long time without progressing at all or maybe it 
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Re: Clippy Sightings in Cygwinland? (was: RE: Can't see full list in setup.exe)

[Gareth Pearce]

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 I busted my KIESTER typing all that in.)

you mean you havent hard coded aalib into your mail program? - shame upon
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Re: Can't see full list in setup.exe

[Colin Harrison]

Hi,

I haven't given up on cygwin.
I'll try and build my own installer on another machine.
My problem was I was using cygwin/XFree/XWin on a 'production'
machine as sub. for a proper KVM system. I'll go back to basics and
prove my usage on a development system first. Meanwhile I've rigged
my KVM up and/or am using PuTTY to control my Linux servers.
The 'development system' is set up the same (I think!) with minimum
XP Pro and only essential Windows functionality (+ Visual Studio).
Don't hold your breath as other priorities may come into force.

Thanks for your help..I'll try to less blunt in future.

Colin

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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[L Anderson]

Pavel Tsekov wrote:

On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Martin Magnusson wrote:



Max Bowsher wrote:


Please describe exactly where setup hangs.


It happens after download, during install. But it hangs at different 
files each time. Somtimes it hangs at 4%, sometimes at 29% etc.


Does it hang if you download only first, and then re-run setup, choosing
install from local directory?


Yes, same problem when I do it that way.



Now this is a hell of a bugreport... Would you care to be more specific ? 
What choices do you make on the various pages of the setup wizard. What 
does it mean hang for you ? Is it that the setup application just sits 
and waits for a very long time without progressing at all or maybe it 
just crashes ?


In the past, when I've had inconsistent problems with setup n' such, 
they seem to go away when I discover and get rid of lost and cross 
linked clusters. I have had virtually no problem with setup since I 
started scanning my hard drives more frequently and eliminating said 
clusters.   Just an idea to look at.

Regards,

L Anderson



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Cygwin Compile of NetBSD 1.6

[iosphere]

Good Day,

I am attempting to compile NetBSD 1.6 via Cygwin 1.3.19-1 (on Win2k) by 
issuing the following command:

./build.sh -m shark -u -t

I get the following error:

$ ./build.sh -m shark -u -t
=== Bootstrapping nbmake
checking for sh... /usr/bin/sh
checking for gcc... cc
checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C 
compiler cannot create executables

ERROR: configure of nbmake failed
*** BUILD ABORTED ***

Could this be a missing shared library? Searched about and found some 
references to this with similar postings, also found some reference to 
bash possibly having some trouble.

Wanted to know if anyone else has come arcoss this, or may point me in a 
direction I have not yet traveled.

Thank you for your time,
Christos


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Re: Cygwin Compile of NetBSD 1.6

[Max Bowsher]

iosphere wrote:
 I am attempting to compile NetBSD 1.6 via Cygwin 1.3.19-1 (on Win2k)

Ambitious!

 by issuing the following command:
 
  ./build.sh -m shark -u -t
 
 I get the following error:
 
  $ ./build.sh -m shark -u -t
  === Bootstrapping nbmake
  checking for sh... /usr/bin/sh
  checking for gcc... cc
  checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C
  compiler cannot create executables

Check config.log


Max.


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Re: Cygwin Compile of NetBSD 1.6

[Max Bowsher]

Christos Dritsas wrote:
 Hi Max:

Please keep replies on the mailing list.

 The funny thing is I find no config.log anywhere. I did a search for
 it and it is not created, maybe this is part of my problem?

The output you posted looks like a standard autoconf-type configure. I think
that the config.log should be created in the current working directory when
configure is executed. I can't imagine how it could not be created. This
build.sh doesn't locate the temporary build stuff in /tmp, or somewhere,
does it?

Max.


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Re: Clippy Sightings in Cygwinland? (was: RE: Can't see full list in setup.exe)

[Colin Harrison]

Hi,

I don't use any of that new fangled vi stuff either!
I'm a teco and ed man (when I'm not binary encoding ascii).

Anyone got a USB adaptor for a punch card machine.
(My old one's bust due to some idiot leaving a paper clip in the card deck)

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Re: Cygwin Compile of NetBSD 1.6

[Christos Dritsas]

Max Bowsher wrote:


Please keep replies on the mailing list.
 

opps, gotta hit that cc button  :)


The output you posted looks like a standard autoconf-type configure. I think
that the config.log should be created in the current working directory when
configure is executed. I can't imagine how it could not be created. This
build.sh doesn't locate the temporary build stuff in /tmp, or somewhere,
does it?
 

Not too sure, here is the relevent code from the build.sh script though:

# Build bootstrap nbmake if needed.
if $do_rebuildmake; then
   $runcmd echo === Bootstrapping nbmake
   tmpdir=${TMPDIR-/tmp}/nbbuild$$

   $runcmd mkdir $tmpdir || bomb cannot mkdir: $tmpdir
   trap cd /; rm -r -f \$tmpdir\ 0
   $runcmd cd $tmpdir

   $runcmd env CC=${HOST_CC-cc} CPPFLAGS=${HOST_CPPFLAGS} \
   CFLAGS=${HOST_CFLAGS--O} LDFLAGS=${HOST_LDFLAGS} \
   $TOP/tools/make/configure \
   || bomb configure of nbmake failed
   $runcmd sh buildmake.sh || bomb build of nbmake failed

   make=$tmpdir/nbmake
   $runcmd cd $TOP
   $runcmd rm -f usr.bin/make/*.o usr.bin/make/lst.lib/*.o
fi

I did also look for the config.log under $TOP/tools/make/ but found 
nothing.

Thanks
~Christos




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RE: bash $PS1 (display error)

[Rolf Campbell]

 -Original Message-
 From: Randall R Schulz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 2:01 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: bash  $PS1 (display error)
 
 
 At 20:37 2003-01-31, Rolf Campbell wrote:
 My prompt is (from the script below) PS1='$PWD '.  All of the 
 characters are 'printable' and none are \[\] enclosed.
 Rolf,
 Is 'printable' different than plain old printable?
No.

 Anyway, I can repeat this (and other concomitant artifacts, too).
 
 It looks like a bug.
 
 I like current directory feedback, too, but I hate it in the prompt. 
 Putting it in the window title bar is nice, however. If you like that 
 idea, try this or something similar:
 
 PS1=$'\[\e]0; \u :: \W (\w)\a\]\! '

I tried just setting my prompt to some long static string (200 a's), and
it produced the same result.  This problem has nothing to do with
printing a path in a prompt.

-Rolf

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Re: Cygwin Compile of NetBSD 1.6

[Max Bowsher]

 Max Bowsher wrote:
 The output you posted looks like a standard autoconf-type configure.
 I think that the config.log should be created in the current working
 directory when configure is executed. I can't imagine how it could
 not be created. This build.sh doesn't locate the temporary build
 stuff in /tmp, or somewhere, does it?

Christos Dritsas wrote:
 Not too sure, here is the relevent code from the build.sh script
 though: 
 
 # Build bootstrap nbmake if needed.
 if $do_rebuildmake; then
 $runcmd echo === Bootstrapping nbmake
 tmpdir=${TMPDIR-/tmp}/nbbuild$$

Aha. It does put it elsewhere.

 
 $runcmd mkdir $tmpdir || bomb cannot mkdir: $tmpdir
 trap cd /; rm -r -f \$tmpdir\ 0

And it removes it all when the script exits.

 I did also look for the config.log under $TOP/tools/make/ but found
 nothing.

Now you know why.


Max.


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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[Martin Magnusson]

Pavel Tsekov wrote:

Now this is a hell of a bugreport... Would you care to be more specific ? 
What choices do you make on the various pages of the setup wizard.
* First, either Install from Internet or Install from Local Directory.
* Then I specify the root directory (same as I used to have when it 
worked), Install For All Users, Default Text File Type: Unix.
* At Select You Internet Connection I choose Direct Connection. I 
usually download from ftp.sunet.se, but I have tried a couple of other 
servers too.
* At Select Packages, I leave everythnig as Default, except the Devel 
category, the Publishing category and Graphics/OpenGL, where I choose 
Install.

What does it mean hang for you ? Is it that the setup application just sits 
and waits for a very long time without progressing at all
Exactly. It is not unresponsive though. I can still cancel it 
gracefully, but it doesn't do anything. I have left it on for an hour 
after it seems to hang, just to confirm that it isn't just progressing 
slowly.

I did scan my hard drives (as suggested by L Anderson) with Norton Disk 
Doctor a couple of days ago, but I'm doing it again now. I'll post again 
if that fixes the problem.

/ Martin


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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[Max Bowsher]

Martin Magnusson wrote:
 * First, either Install from Internet or Install from Local Directory.
 * Then I specify the root directory (same as I used to have when it
 worked), Install For All Users, Default Text File Type: Unix.
 * At Select You Internet Connection I choose Direct Connection. I
 usually download from ftp.sunet.se, but I have tried a couple of other
 servers too.
 * At Select Packages, I leave everythnig as Default, except the
 Devel category, the Publishing category and Graphics/OpenGL, where I
 choose
 Install.

 What does it mean hang for you ? Is it that the setup application
 just sits and waits for a very long time without progressing at all
 Exactly. It is not unresponsive though. I can still cancel it
 gracefully, but it doesn't do anything. I have left it on for an hour
 after it seems to hang, just to confirm that it isn't just progressing
 slowly.

Does it hang in the middle of installing a package, or between packages?

Have you tried setup-2.303 (if not, do)? Does the MD5sum check go OK? (When
you choose install from local directory).

Max.


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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 02:05:37PM +, Colin Harrison wrote:
I'm getting the same sort of problems:-
compress+bz::error calls + blank chooser lines and various hangs.
I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use.

Phew.  That's a relief.  With this attitude, I can only imagine the
scenario when it was time to set up ssh or change the prompt in bash.
B...

cgf

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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[Elfyn McBratney]

 I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use.

 Phew.  That's a relief.  With this attitude, I can only imagine the
 scenario when it was time to set up ssh or change the prompt in bash.
 B...

 cgf

LOL!!!

I can't believe I've been using alpha's for all this time with knowone
telling me ;-)


Regards,

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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[Randall R Schulz]

Oh, Chris,

Face it. The whole concept of software is pre-alpha and definitely not 
for the faint of heart. But just imagine the songs and epic poems that 
will be written to honor us, the brave pioneers of these first, 
archaic, nay even dangerous computers. Will anybody remember the 
cowards who couldn't even brave a simple Cygwin installation without 
running screaming in terror? Of course not.

Now, back to my battle with the omnipresent demons of information 
chaos. They lurk everywhere!

Randall


At 10:49 2003-02-01, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 02:05:37PM +, Colin Harrison wrote:
I'm getting the same sort of problems:-
compress+bz::error calls + blank chooser lines and various hangs.
I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use.

Phew.  That's a relief.  With this attitude, I can only imagine the
scenario when it was time to set up ssh or change the prompt in bash.
B...

cgf



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RE: bash $PS1 (display error)

[Randall R Schulz]

At 10:15 2003-02-01, Rolf Campbell wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: Randall R Schulz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 2:01 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: bash  $PS1 (display error)


 At 20:37 2003-01-31, Rolf Campbell wrote:
 My prompt is (from the script below) PS1='$PWD '.  All of the
 characters are 'printable' and none are \[\] enclosed.

 Rolf,
 Is 'printable' different than plain old printable?

No.

 Anyway, I can repeat this (and other concomitant artifacts, too).

 It looks like a bug.

 I like current directory feedback, too, but I hate it in the prompt.
 Putting it in the window title bar is nice, however. If you like that
 idea, try this or something similar:

 PS1=$'\[\e]0; \u :: \W (\w)\a\]\! '

I tried just setting my prompt to some long static string (200 a's), and
it produced the same result.  This problem has nothing to do with
printing a path in a prompt.



Rolf,

That's hardly surprising. I assumed you encountered the problem because 
you were working in a deeply nested directory with a very long absolute 
name. To me, even modest-length directory names are intrusive when 
included in the shell prompt, which is why I offered my alternative. Do 
you just want to have an incredibly long prompt?

Randall Schulz


-Rolf



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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[Martin Magnusson]

Max Bowsher wrote:
 Does it hang in the middle of installing a package, or between
 packages?
It varies. Now I have actually managed to install the basic Cygwin 
packages (everything set to default, no compilers or anything). It 
worked on the second attempt. But I'm still struggling, trying to add 
gcc and such (from my local directory). After I installed the basics I 
ran setup-2.303 again, and  only checked the Devel category. The first 
time it hung when starting to install doxygen, and the second time it 
hung in the middle of /usr/.../texinfo.tex.

 Does the MD5sum check go OK?
Yes, all of the MD5sum checks go OK.

I also just scanned my hard drives again (including the free space) with 
NDD, and it didn't report any problems.

/ Martin


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RE: bash $PS1 (display error)

[Rolf Campbell]

 -Original Message-
 From: Randall R Schulz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 2:01 PM
 To: Rolf Campbell; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: bash  $PS1 (display error)
 
 
 Rolf,
 
 That's hardly surprising. I assumed you encountered the 
 problem because 
 you were working in a deeply nested directory with a very 
 long absolute 
 name. To me, even modest-length directory names are intrusive when 
 included in the shell prompt, which is why I offered my 
 alternative. Do 
 you just want to have an incredibly long prompt?

Well, I began my computer use in DOS, and it was standard to include the
path in the prompt.  And I have no choice but to use deeply nested
directories (large build system makes it difficult to avoid).  The real
problem I was having is in bash, when I use ^R to do a reverse search on
the command history, and then hit enter to run the command, I find that
it frequently has display problems.  When trying to make a simple test
case, I discovered this specific problem.

I have no overwhelming desire to have extremely long prompts, but I
think that they should either be:
#1) Available  working.
#2) Not available.
#3) Available  not working 100%, but the limitation known.

I realize the issues with open-source software.  If I have a problem
that nobody else cares about, I will have to fix it myself.  I just
wanted to see if anyone knew what was going on, or even just to inform
people of the limitation.

I've downloaded the cygwin bash source, but it's going to be a while
before I will be able to figure out how to fix this problem (haven't
even been able to find the part of the code responsible for printing the
prompt yet).

-Rolf

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Re: bash $PS1 (display error)

[Elfyn McBratney]

Sorry to but-in :-)

Now, I havent't been following this thread *bad me* but is the problem that
once you've typed say over 60 characters on the prompt it then starts
overwritting the prompt instead of carrying onto the next line?

If not, Sorry for buttin-in...I'll but-out now ;-)


Regards,

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Re: bash $PS1 (display error)

[Elfyn McBratney]

 If not, Sorry for buttin-in...I'll but-out now ;-)

Sorry, read the thread now!


Regards,

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[Setup PATCH] Add Clippy to Cygwin Setup (Was: Re: Clippy Sightingsin Cygwinland?)

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I'm running 'Windows Classic' 'no effects' 'Color quality Medium 16 bit'
 
  'Adjust for best performance'
 
  In other words I strip out all the Microsoft clutter from my desktop?
  No silly dogs, animated paper clips or WMP 9's in sight!
  

 Hmmm are you *sure* Clippy isn't lurking around somewhere?

 Perhaps somewhere you'd least expect Clippy to be?

  Ooop's showing my unix heritage again.

 That's alright... BECAUSE SO IS CLIPPY!:

 [ASCII art of Clippy snipped]

 Hello Colin!  BLINK!  It looks like you're using vi!  SCRIBBLE!  Mind if I
 irritate you?  TWIST SELF INTO STAR SHAPE!  What would you like to do?:

 - Type a character?
 - Save a file?
 - Install a different text editor?
 

 --
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 Brewer.  Patriot.
 (And somebody damn well better be incapacitated with laughter right now, because
 I busted my KIESTER typing all that in.)

Gary, you may be more right than you know. ;-)
Igor
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because I busted my KIESTER finding the exact image Gary used for his
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Index: res.rc
===
RCS file: /cvs/cygwin-apps/setup/res.rc,v
retrieving revision 2.45
diff -u -p -r2.45 res.rc
--- res.rc  19 Jan 2003 20:31:53 -  2.45
+++ res.rc  1 Feb 2003 20:07:33 -
@@ -345,14 +345,14 @@ END
 
 // Icon with lowest ID value placed first to ensure application icon
 // remains consistent on all systems.
-IDI_CYGWIN  ICONDISCARDABLE cygwin.ico
+IDI_CYGWIN  ICONDISCARDABLE clippy.ico
 
 /
 //
 // FILE
 //
 
-CYGWIN.ICON FILEDISCARDABLE cygwin.ico
+CYGWIN.ICON FILEDISCARDABLE clippy.ico
 
 /
 //



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Re: [Setup PATCH] Add Clippy to cygwin Setup (Was: Re: Clippy Sightings in cygwinland?)

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 03:11:58PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I'm running 'Windows Classic' 'no effects' 'Color quality Medium 16 bit'
 
  'Adjust for best performance'
 
  In other words I strip out all the Microsoft clutter from my desktop?
  No silly dogs, animated paper clips or WMP 9's in sight!
  

 Hmmm are you *sure* Clippy isn't lurking around somewhere?

 Perhaps somewhere you'd least expect Clippy to be?

  Ooop's showing my unix heritage again.

 That's alright... BECAUSE SO IS CLIPPY!:

 [ASCII art of Clippy snipped]

 Hello Colin!  BLINK!  It looks like you're using vi!  SCRIBBLE!  Mind if I
 irritate you?  TWIST SELF INTO STAR SHAPE!  What would you like to do?:

 - Type a character?
 - Save a file?
 - Install a different text editor?
 

 --
 Gary R. Van Sickle
 Brewer.  Patriot.
 (And somebody damn well better be incapacitated with laughter right now, because
 I busted my KIESTER typing all that in.)

Gary, you may be more right than you know. ;-)
   Igor
(And somebody damn well better be incapacitated with laughter right now,
because I busted my KIESTER finding the exact image Gary used for his
ASCII art.)

LOL.

You know, if you glued some fur on that you might be able to convince me it's
an otter.

cgf

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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[David A. Case]

On Sat, Feb 01, 2003, Elfyn McBratney wrote:

 I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use.

This is probably why most experienced users recommend using one of the
beta releases, in particular b19.  There are no problems using setup.exe
in that version (such as not being able to resize the window...)

..dac



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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[Max Bowsher]

David A. Case wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 01, 2003, Elfyn McBratney wrote:
 
 I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use.
 
 This is probably why most experienced users recommend using one of the
 beta releases, in particular b19.  There are no problems using
 setup.exe in that version (such as not being able to resize the
 window...) 

Yes, it's amazing how few bugs there are in nonexistant software! :-)


Max.


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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[Elfyn McBratney]

  On Sat, Feb 01, 2003, Elfyn McBratney wrote:
  
  I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use.

 ^^^[*]

  
  This is probably why most experienced users recommend using one of the
  beta releases, in particular b19.  There are no problems using
  setup.exe in that version (such as not being able to resize the
  window...) 
 
 Yes, it's amazing how few bugs there are in nonexistant software! :-)


[*]Btw, it wasn't me who wrote that ;-)


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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 02:00:35PM -0800, David A.  Case wrote:
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003, Elfyn McBratney wrote:
I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use.

This is probably why most experienced users recommend using one of the
beta releases, in particular b19.  There are no problems using
setup.exe in that version (such as not being able to resize the
window...)

Yeah, and you don't have to worry about those pesky extra software
packages like ssh, tcsh, ghostscript, etc.  Much more relaxing...

Actually, I'll bet if you go back to B14 you'll have the most relaxing
experience of all.  It's probably tiny and not all that much ran on it.
There are no worries about software that doesn't work the way you expect
since the software just doesn't run at all and that *is* what you'd
expect.

cgf

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Re: bash lockup

[Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)]

At 01:41 AM 2/1/2003, Sean McBride wrote:
I thank all of you who comented on my last post.

I have another small problem.

I installed the package with the installer and then later, added pine to my
installation.  I don't think installing pine has anything to do with my
problem, but I only noticed this after adding that package.

occasionally when executing commands from bash the command window locks up.
^c does nothing and I can't even close the window.  Even Ctrl-Alt-Del End
task won't get rid of the misbehaving command window.  Only if I shut down a
task called oldwinapp does the command window go away.  Then I am able to
restart bash and rerun the same exact command I attempted before with no
problem.  After a while, it locks up on another command..  There seems to be
no pattern to the command or time it does this at.

Has anyone else experienced this problem?  Maybe I am doing something wrong?


No and this doesn't look like a Cygwin issue per se.  oldwinapp seems to 
be the problem here, whatever that is.  It certainly doesn't come with the
Cygwin distribution.  I suggest you investigate this.



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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[Dockeen]

This is probably why most experienced users recommend using one of the
beta releases, in particular b19.  There are no problems using
setup.exe in that version (such as not being able to resize the
window...)

As someone who goes back to the Bx days (maybe I should call that the
Bs days), I think the technical term for the above phrase is as
follows:

Rancid bovine fecal material.

Says it all.

Wayne Keen




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Re: cross compiling

[David Means]

Do I understand correctly that you want to compile (on a linux machine) a program that makes use of the Cygwin API's, and which will be run on a windows machine? A true cross compile?

David


On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 07:55, thomas wrote:

hi,

i want to compile cygwin apps in linux. i've searched both the cygwin and
the cygwin-dev lists but i can't seem to find much information about it.
cgf apparently does it and knows how to do it.
so if someone can point me in a direction that'd be great.

thomas


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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[Randall R Schulz]

Wayne,

Now, now.

It's true Cygwin has improved immensely in the past six years or so, 
but it was useful even back then. I started using it in 1997 (beginning 
about a week after I first had to use Windows for development) and it 
was indispensable, even if not entirely mature. I tried MKS, but even 
if you ignored its very slow terminal / console I/O, I could not 
conceivably deemed it worth what it costs when Cygwin (whose name was 
different then, I think) was available free.

Randall Schulz


At 15:58 2003-02-01, Dockeen wrote:
This is probably why most experienced users recommend using one of the
beta releases, in particular b19.  There are no problems using
setup.exe in that version (such as not being able to resize the
window...)

As someone who goes back to the Bx days (maybe I should call that the
Bs days), I think the technical term for the above phrase is as follows:

Rancid bovine fecal material.

Says it all.

Wayne Keen



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Re: cross compiling

[Elfyn McBratney]

Sorry, could not be arsed to reformat this... :-)

Im pretty sure, it makes sense to me and kinda confirmed in the mknetrel
script, that Chris (cgf) uses cross gcc, binutils and maybe more that are
targetted for i{3,4,5,6?}86-pc-cygwin... So you'd need to compile at very
least a cross-compiler for cygwin.


Regards,

Elfyn McBratney
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.exposure.org.uk

- Original Message -
From: David Means
To: thomas
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: cross compiling


Do I understand correctly that you want to compile (on a linux machine) a
program that makes use of the Cygwin API's, and which will be run on a
windows machine?  A true cross compile?

David


On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 07:55, thomas wrote:
hi,

i want to compile cygwin apps in linux. i've searched both the cygwin and
the cygwin-dev lists but i can't seem to find much information about it.
cgf apparently does it and knows how to do it.
so if someone can point me in a direction that'd be great.

thomas


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RE: Setup hangs repetedly

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

 Oh, Chris,

 Face it. The whole concept of software is pre-alpha and definitely not
 for the faint of heart. But just imagine the songs and epic poems that
 will be written to honor us, the brave pioneers of these first,
 archaic, nay even dangerous computers. Will anybody remember the
 cowards who couldn't even brave a simple Cygwin installation without
 running screaming in terror? Of course not.

 Now, back to my battle with the omnipresent demons of information
 chaos. They lurk everywhere!

 Randall

;-)

It is not the critic who counts, the credit belongs to the man who is actually
in the arena. Who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short time and time
again; and who, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly. His place
shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor
defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt

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Re: Setup hangs repetedly

[Doug Wyatt]

FWIW, some time ago I thought that setup was hanging regularly while
doing 'Install from a local directory' when the directory was on a network
share.  Then on one occasion I started one such install and got
sidetracked for about 5 hrs.  When I returned to check on this install
I found that it actually had progressed, though a snail would have
outrun it by a fair margin.

Other methods of accessing the same network share showed no lag at
the same time this slow install was 'progressing'.  There's something
about the way I/O is done by setup that made installing from a shared
directory totally unworkable.

This example completed in about 6.5 hrs, installing fewer than 20 pkgs.

Doug

On 1 Feb 2003 at 19:24, Martin Magnusson wrote:

 Pavel Tsekov wrote:
  Now this is a hell of a bugreport... Would you care to be more specific ? 
  What choices do you make on the various pages of the setup wizard.
 * First, either Install from Internet or Install from Local Directory.
 * Then I specify the root directory (same as I used to have when it 
 worked), Install For All Users, Default Text File Type: Unix.
 * At Select You Internet Connection I choose Direct Connection. I 
 usually download from ftp.sunet.se, but I have tried a couple of other 
 servers too.
 * At Select Packages, I leave everythnig as Default, except the Devel 
 category, the Publishing category and Graphics/OpenGL, where I choose 
 Install.
 
  What does it mean hang for you ? Is it that the setup application just sits 
  and waits for a very long time without progressing at all
 Exactly. It is not unresponsive though. I can still cancel it 
 gracefully, but it doesn't do anything. I have left it on for an hour 
 after it seems to hang, just to confirm that it isn't just progressing 
 slowly.
 
 I did scan my hard drives (as suggested by L Anderson) with Norton Disk 
 Doctor a couple of days ago, but I'm doing it again now. I'll post again 
 if that fixes the problem.
 
 / Martin
 
 
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RE: [Setup PATCH] Add Clippy to cygwin Setup (Was: Re: Clippy Sightings in cygwinland?)

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

[snip]
 Gary, you may be more right than you know. ;-)
  Igor
 (And somebody damn well better be incapacitated with laughter right now,
 because I busted my KIESTER finding the exact image Gary used for his
 ASCII art.)
 
 LOL.
 
 You know, if you glued some fur on that you might be able to convince me it's
 an otter.
 

Hmmm... what's the ASCII character for fur? ;-)

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Re: missing make

[Elfyn McBratney]

 Hi, I need to install CygWin on my pc (running windows 98) but I know
 almost nothing of itI've just tried to install all the packages I
don't
 know why but the file make.exe is missing in my bin directorywhy? what
 happened?

Not too sure :| For starters, just incase, run these two lines:

$ /bin/ls -al /bin/make /bin/make.exe
$ cygcheck -c make

If neither, first showing the file information, and the second saying
nothing about make's version, give you any informative info then you don't
have make installed. If so, return to setup and install it :-)

If you have it installed re-install it, and if nake still doesn't show then
reply with the output of `cygcheck -svr' at a *non-compressed* plain text
attachment.


Regards,

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missing make

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Hi, I need to install CygWin on my pc (running windows 98) but I know almost nothing 
of itI've just tried to install all the packages I don't know why but the file 
make.exe is missing in my bin 
directorywhy? what happened?

thanx a lot

mibrah



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Re: cross compiling

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 12:21:22AM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote:
Sorry, could not be arsed to reformat this... :-)

Im pretty sure, it makes sense to me and kinda confirmed in the mknetrel
script, that Chris (cgf) uses cross gcc, binutils and maybe more that are
targetted for i{3,4,5,6?}86-pc-cygwin... So you'd need to compile at very
least a cross-compiler for cygwin.

Yes, I use a linux x cygwin gcc+binutils for all of my cygwin work.  That's
sort of stock in trade for my division of Red Hat (the division formerly
known as Cygnus).

I use the uberbaum repository to check out everything in one tree:

cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/uberbaum login
cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/uberbaum co .

This is the configure line I used to build everything:

  /path/to/source/configure --target=i686-pc-cygwin --build=i686-pc-linux \
--host=i686-pc-linux --prefix=/somewhere --disable-nls \
--enable-languages=c++ --enable-sjlj-exceptions

And then use:
  make all install

To install it.

This creates i686-pc-cygwin-gcc, i686-pc-cygwin-ld, i686-pc-cygwin-as, etc.
that are used to build cygwin.

There is a mailing list for discussing cross gcc:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Before someone asks, I built the cross compiler myself, I'm not willing
to make it available for general distribution, and I'm not willing to
act as a mentor to other enterprising souls who want to do the same
thing.  There are surely web sites out there which deal with this issue.

cgf

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Re: cross compiling

[thomas]

Elfyn McBratney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Im pretty sure, it makes sense to me and kinda confirmed in the mknetrel
 script, that Chris (cgf) uses cross gcc, binutils and maybe more that are
 targetted for i{3,4,5,6?}86-pc-cygwin... So you'd need to compile at very
 least a cross-compiler for cygwin.

yup that's what i want to do. however i'm not very experienced (not at
all) with building cross compilers. i've tried to build binutils and gcc
with target=i586-cygwin-pc but both failed on me.
i've googled around for a more detailed howto than the one i've found
which was quite outdated (b20, egcs 1.1.x) but didn't find anything.

maybe cgf wants to share a bit of his wisdom? :)

thomas


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RE: [Setup PATCH] Add Clippy to Cygwin Setup (Was: Re: ClippySightings in Cygwinland?)

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:

 [snip]
   (And somebody damn well better be incapacitated with laughter right
  now, because
   I busted my KIESTER typing all that in.)
 
  Gary, you may be more right than you know. ;-)
Igor
  (And somebody damn well better be incapacitated with laughter right now,
  because I busted my KIESTER finding the exact image Gary used for his
  ASCII art.)

 BAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAA!!

 Oh mercy!  Maybe we use that as the icon, and, to try to avoid legal
 entangements, a bitmap of ASCII-Clippy in the currently-empty box area!

 (I got him from a printscreen.  AND THEN I COULDN'T GET RID OF HIM, EVEN AFTER I
 CLOSED MS-WORD!)

Two words: background image. ;-)
Igor
P.S. And another wild idea: animated ASCII-Clippy :-D
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Re: cross compiling

[Elfyn McBratney]

 yup that's what i want to do. however i'm not very experienced (not at
 all) with building cross compilers. i've tried to build binutils and gcc
 with target=i586-cygwin-pc but both failed on me.
 i've googled around for a more detailed howto than the one i've found
 which was quite outdated (b20, egcs 1.1.x) but didn't find anything.

I know exactly what you mean, tutorial wise :-) What you'll need to do is
take a look at cgf's reply to my observation which gives you the configure
line. Just change the paths, a little hint you'll need to build gcc and
binutils in different directories from the source. Perhaps you'll want to
use the uberbaum source too, to simplify things as we know if works for
Chris.

I know that's not giving you much, but you'll have to knock up the courage
to hunt the (cross)gcc lists for more details if needed. Ditto for binutils.

 maybe cgf wants to share a bit of his wisdom? :)

I dowt that ;-)


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Elfyn McBratney
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Re: cross compiling

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 01:43:59AM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote:
 maybe cgf wants to share a bit of his wisdom? :)

I dowt that ;-)

You don't need me.  I typed how to build a cross compiler in google
and got plenty of hits.

As usual, I think people think too literally when they type in google
searches.

If you type How to build a cross compiler on cygwin 1.3.19 Sunday or
Monday after 3PM if it isn't snowing you aren't going to get many hits.

General searches work best.  Then you refine from there.

cgf, fish teacher

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RE: [Setup PATCH] Add Clippy to Cygwin Setup (Was: Re: Clippy Sightings in Cygwinland?)

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

[snip]
  BAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAA!!
 
  Oh mercy!  Maybe we use that as the icon, and, to try to avoid legal
  entangements, a bitmap of ASCII-Clippy in the currently-empty box area!
 
  (I got him from a printscreen.  AND THEN I COULDN'T GET RID OF HIM,
 EVEN AFTER I
  CLOSED MS-WORD!)

 Two words: background image. ;-)

AS IN WALLPAPER??!?!

BAHAHHAHHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAA!!


[x] Add shortcut to desktop
[x] Add shortcut to Start menu
[x] Set Clippy as wallpaper


   Igor
 P.S. And another wild idea: animated ASCII-Clippy :-D

IN COLOR!  There's this JavE program that says it can do ASCII art in
color!!!  Oh Lordy, I have GOT to do that!  ;-)

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Re: cross compiling

[Elfyn McBratney]

 If you type How to build a cross compiler on cygwin 1.3.19 Sunday or
 Monday after 3PM if it isn't snowing you aren't going to get many hits.

 General searches work best.  Then you refine from there.

 cgf, fish teacher

And

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclientie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=how+to+a
+build+a+cygwin+cross+compiler+on+linux

how to build a cygwin cross compiler on linux. Some are even appearing on
s.r.c, not suprising tho...


Regards,

Elfyn McBratney (fish throwerhmm maybe not^H^H^H^H^H^H^H)
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Re: missing make

[Elfyn McBratney]

 Hi, I need to install CygWin on my pc (running windows 98) but I know
 almost nothing of itI've just tried to install all the packages I
don't
 know why but the file make.exe is missing in my bin directorywhy? what
 happened?

Not too sure :| For starters, just incase, run these two lines:

$ /bin/ls -al /bin/make /bin/make.exe
$ cygcheck -c make

If neither, first showing the file information, and the second saying
nothing about make's version, give you any informative info then you don't
have make installed. If so, return to setup and install it :-)

If you have it installed re-install it, and if make still doesn't show then
reply with the output of `cygcheck -svr' at a *non-compressed* plain text
attachment.


Regards,

Elfyn McBratney
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.exposure.org.uk



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buffer anomolies - emacs X11-21.12 vs. cvs

[Doug Maxey]

Howdy,

Background on the issue -
I use X11 emacs in conjunction with cvs to keep my work project files 
synchronized between my w2k laptop and my aix cvs server and aix build 
machines,  This was working just peachy, much more lightweight  than 
cmvc.  Discovered pcl-cvs, and am using to keep the entire tree in sync. 
As they say in these parts, that dog would hunt.

The problem -
Somewhere between 21.x, where x was the version available around 
November 2002, and the latest emacs, including 21.9 and 21.12, files 
that were updated or committed suddenly started getting extraneous data 
inserted in the buffer when the commit was done.  Here is tiny ascii 
graphic I hope will tickle someone's knowledge of the emacs internals

buffer before commit:
+
|abcd
|efghi
|
|klmn point is here
+

after the commit:
+
|abcd
|efghi
|
|klmn point is still here
|klmn
+

Note the extra chars inserted after point when the buffer is refreshed 
after the commit.  The file on the disk itself is still correct, that 
is, if the file length was 13 before the commit, it was 13 after.  The 
buffer on the other hand  was also 13 before the commit, but after has 
the number of chars inserted that corresponds to the number of lines in 
the file.  


Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Sat Feb 01 19:49:07 2003

Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3

Path:   c:\home\dwm\share
c:\home\dwm\bin
C:\cygwin\usr\local\sbin
c:\usr\local\share
C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin
C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin
C:\cygwin\bin
C:\cygwin\bin
.
C:\cygwin\bin
c:\Tcl-8-3-4-2\bin
c:\WINNT\system32
c:\WINNT

\cygdrive\c\Program Files\Common Files\Adaptec Shared\System
\cygdrive\c\Program Files\TTERMPRO
c:\bin

c:\usr\bin
c:\usr\local\bin
c:\usr\local\share
c:\lotus\compnent
\cygdrive\c\Program Files\Hummingbird\Connectivity\7.10\Accessories\
\cygdrive\c\Program \cygdrive\c\Program \cygdrive\c\Program \cygdrive\c\Program 
Files\Resource Pro Kit\
\cygdrive\c\Program \cygdrive\c\Program \cygdrive\c\Program Test
C
C:\cygwin\Program Files\PKWARE\PKZIPC\
c:\Infoprint
.
C:\cygwin\usr\sbin
C:\cygwin\sbin
C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin

SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32
WinDir: C:\WINNT

CYGWIN = `binmode check_case:strict export ntea'
HOME = `c:\home\dwm'
LD_LIBRARY_PATH = `\usr\lib:\usr\X11R6\lib'
MAKE_MODE = `unix'
PWD = `/home/dwm/share'
USER = `dwm'

ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users.WINNT'
APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\dwm.D94WWX01\Application Data'
AUSGSA_FS = `/k'
AUSTIN_FS = `/x'
CDPATH = `.:/home/dwm'
CDXBIN = `/cdrom/usr/X11R6/bin'
COMMONHOME = `C:\Program Files\Rational\common'
COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files'
COMPUTERNAME = `D94WWX01'
COMSPEC = `C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe'
CVSROOT = `:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:12345/home/cvs/top'
CYGWIN_ROOT = `\cygwin'
DISPLAY = `D94WWX01:0.0'
EDITOR = `/usr/bin/vi'
EMACSLIB = `/usr/share/emacs'
EMACSLISP = `/usr/share/emacs/21.2/lisp'
EMACSSITE = `/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp'
EMACSVERSION = `21.2'
EMACS_UNIBYTE = `true'
ENVPATH = 
`/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:.:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/cygdrive/c/Tcl-8-3-4-2/bin:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINNT:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/Program\:Files/Common\:Files/Adaptec\:Shared/System:/cygdrive/c/Program\:Files/TTERMPRO:/cygdrive/c/bin:/cygdrive/c/vim/vim60:/cygdrive/c/usr/bin:/cygdrive/c/usr/local/bin:/cygdrive/c/usr/local/share:/cygdrive/c/lotus/compnent:/cygdrive/c/Program\:Files/Hummingbird/Connectivity/7.10/Accessories/:/cygdrive/c/Program\:/cygdrive/c/Program\:/cygdrive/c/Program\:/cygdrive/c/Program\:Files/Resource\:Pro\:Kit/:/cygdrive/c/Program\:/cygdrive/c/Program\:/cygdrive/c/Program\:Test:C:/Program\:Files/PKWARE/PKZIPC/:/cygdrive/c/Infoprint:.'
FVWM_MODULEDIR = `/usr/X11R6/sbin/fvwm/2.4.7'
FVWM_USERDIR = `/home/dwm/.fvwm'
HISTFILE = `/home/dwm/.History/D94WWX01.tty3'
HISTFILESIZE = `2'
HISTSIZE = `5000'
HOMEDRIVE = `C:'
HOMEPATH = `\'
HOST = `D94WWX01'
HOSTDISPLAY = `D94WWX01:0.0'
HOSTNAME = `D94WWX01'
I = `/usr/include'
IGXX = `/usr/local/lib/g++-include'
IM = `/usr/include/machine'
INFOPATH = `c:/bin/emacs21.1/info;c:/cygwin/usr/info/:/usr/info/:/usr/local/info/'
INFOTOP = `c:/bin/emacs21.1/info;c:/cygwin/usr/info/:/usr/info/:/usr/local/info/'
IS = `/usr/include/sys'
IX = `/usr/X11R6/include'
LESS = `acfj10insWP%f (%i of %m) ?f?xNext - %x:Last File.:.'
LESSEDIT = `%E ?lt+%lt. %f'
LESSOPEN = `|/usr/local/share/lessopen %s'
LIBEMACS = `/usr/share/emacs/21.2'
LOGNAME = `dwm'
LOGONSERVER = `\\D94WWX01'
MANPATH = `:/usr/ssl/man:/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/man'
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1'
NUTCROOT = `C:\PROGRA~1\RATIONAL\RATION~1\NUTCROOT'
NUTSUFFIX = `1'
NUT_SUFFIXED_SEARCHING = `1'
OLDPWD = `/usr/local/share'
OS2LIBPATH = `C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;'
OS = `Windows_NT'
PAGER = `/usr/bin/less'
PATHEXT = 

Updated: tcltk-20030128-3

[Christopher Faylor]

I've made a new version of tcltk available for downloading.  This
version has generic symbolic links for version specific tcl/tk entities
like tclsh84.exe and libtcl84.a.  So there is a 'tclsh' file which is
linked to 'tclsh84'.

I have not created symbolic links for the dlls for hopefully obvious
reasons.

If you have problems with tcltk it is best to send them to the insight
mailing list at insight at sources dot redhat dot com.  Then the
insight maintainers can help rectify them.  I read that mailing list,
too, of course.

To update your installation, click on the Install Cygwin now link on
the http://cygwin.com/ web page.  This downloads setup.exe to your
system.  Then, run setup and answer all of the questions.

If you have general questions or comments, please send them to the
Cygwin mailing list at: cygwin at cygwin dot com.  I would appreciate
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[RFC]: Meet Cyppy, the irritating Cygwin mascot!

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

I hereby formally propose the character shown in the attached image, known only
as Cyppy, for the honor of Official Cygwin Mascot.  As an alternate name,
Cyggy may also work, but I'm partial to Cyppy for some reason.

Hi!  BLINK!  I'm Cyppy, the irritating Cygwin mascot!  LOOK AROUND!  It
looks like you're having trouble with Perl's regular expressions.  TURN INTO A
BICYCLE WITH EYES FOR TIRES!  Let me help!  What do you want to do:
- Match a single character?
- Match a string of characters?
- Execute a Perl script?
- Execute the evil bastage who created me?
- Install everything?
- Unsubscribe?
TAP ON MONITOR!

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Re: [RFC]: Meet Cyppy, the irritating Cygwin mascot!

[Robert Collins]

On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 14:10, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
 I hereby formally propose the character shown in the attached image, known only
 as Cyppy, for the honor of Official Cygwin Mascot.  As an alternate name,
 Cyggy may also work, but I'm partial to Cyppy for some reason.

Sick man, sick.

Rob
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Re: [RFC]: Meet Cyppy, the irritating Cygwin mascot!

[Elfyn McBratney]

 I hereby formally propose the character shown in the attached image, known
only
 as Cyppy, for the honor of Official Cygwin Mascot.  As an alternate
name,
 Cyggy may also work, but I'm partial to Cyppy for some reason.

 Hi!  BLINK!  I'm Cyppy, the irritating Cygwin mascot!  LOOK AROUND!
It
 looks like you're having trouble with Perl's regular expressions.  TURN
INTO A
 BICYCLE WITH EYES FOR TIRES!  Let me help!  What do you want to do:
 - Match a single character?
 - Match a string of characters?
 - Execute a Perl script?
 - Execute the evil bastage who created me?
 - Install everything?
 - Unsubscribe?
 TAP ON MONITOR!

Thats weird...I was thinking about this this morning and thought Cyggy (for
Cygwin) may come accross as the name for a cigarette manufactuor. I do like
the Cyppy name tho ;-)

Gary, can you send me the original clippy image, go away M$ copyright
enforcers, so I can play with it in photoshop? I'm way to lazy to find it on
the net and it's one of those nights where I'm still working gone 3am(tm)...
:-)


Regards,

Elfyn McBratney
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.exposure.org.uk
cygwin.com/faq/



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RE: [RFC]: Meet Cyppy, the irritating Cygwin mascot!

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
 
  I hereby formally propose the character shown in the attached
  image, known only
  as Cyppy, for the honor of Official Cygwin Mascot.  As an
  alternate name,
  Cyggy may also work, but I'm partial to Cyppy for some reason.

 Kewl. For girl programmers, will we have a Mrs. Cyppy?

B
A
A
HAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHA!!!

Mrs. Cyppy, GET IT?!?!?!  Mrs. Cyppy/Mississippi?!?!?!

OH MY LORD THAT IS GREAT MATERIAL!!!

WHEW!!  That alone cinches the whole deal if'n ya ask me!

Ok, let's see here.  We ABSOLUTELY have a Mrs. Cyppy.  It's Cyppy with a pink
bow, ala Mrs. Pac Man!

Lessee, search the web for a pic of Mrs. Pac Man, a few hours stumbling around
in The GIMP... well I guess the rest of my Saturday evening is booked!  ;-)

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RE: [RFC]: Meet Cyppy, the irritating Cygwin mascot!

[Randall R Schulz]

Fellow Humorists,

I'm sure this all would make me laugh, but your timing is bad. I'm 
listening to A Prairie Home Companion's Annual Joke Show 
(http://www.mpr.org/), and they've got some really good ones.

Catch it if you can.

Randall Schulz


At 19:32 2003-02-01, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
 
  I hereby formally propose the character shown in the attached
  image, known only
  as Cyppy, for the honor of Official Cygwin Mascot.  As an
  alternate name,
  Cyggy may also work, but I'm partial to Cyppy for some reason.

 Kewl. For girl programmers, will we have a Mrs. Cyppy?

B
A
A
HAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHA!!!

Mrs. Cyppy, GET IT?!?!?!  Mrs. Cyppy/Mississippi?!?!?!

OH MY LORD THAT IS GREAT MATERIAL!!!

WHEW!!  That alone cinches the whole deal if'n ya ask me!

Ok, let's see here.  We ABSOLUTELY have a Mrs. Cyppy.  It's Cyppy with a pink
bow, ala Mrs. Pac Man!

Lessee, search the web for a pic of Mrs. Pac Man, a few hours stumbling around
in The GIMP... well I guess the rest of my Saturday evening is booked!  ;-)

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RE: [RFC]: Meet Cyppy, the irritating Cygwin mascot!

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

 Thats weird...I was thinking about this this morning and thought Cyggy (for
 Cygwin) may come accross as the name for a cigarette manufactuor. I do like
 the Cyppy name tho ;-)


Ah, I hadn't even thought of that, good point.  Yeah, we'd probably not want
Cyppy to be mistaken for the mascot of a Simpsonesque cigarette manufacturer.

 Gary, can you send me the original clippy image, go away M$ copyright
 enforcers, so I can play with it in photoshop? I'm way to lazy to find it on
 the net and it's one of those nights where I'm still working gone 3am(tm)...
 :-)


You're asking me to violate Clippy's protection under United States copyright
laws and the Irritating Mascot Protection Act of 1934?!?!???!?!?  NEVER!  NEVER
I SAY!  I know not what course others may take; but as for me, GIVE ME CLIPPY,
OR GIVE ME DEATH!


 Regards,

 Elfyn McBratney
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.exposure.org.uk
 cygwin.com/faq/


Oh, I see you're from the same great country as Tony The Tiger Blair!  That's
different!

Expect a... package... in the... email... shortly. wink wink ;-)

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Re: [RFC]: Meet Cyppy, the irritating Cygwin mascot!

[Elfyn McBratney]

 
  Thats weird...I was thinking about this this morning and thought Cyggy
(for
  Cygwin) may come accross as the name for a cigarette manufactuor. I do
like
  the Cyppy name tho ;-)
 

 Ah, I hadn't even thought of that, good point.  Yeah, we'd probably not
want
 Cyppy to be mistaken for the mascot of a Simpsonesque cigarette
manufacturer.

  Gary, can you send me the original clippy image, go away M$ copyright
  enforcers, so I can play with it in photoshop? I'm way to lazy to find
it on
  the net and it's one of those nights where I'm still working gone
3am(tm)...
  :-)
 

 You're asking me to violate Clippy's protection under United States
copyright
 laws and the Irritating Mascot Protection Act of 1934?!?!???!?!?  NEVER!
NEVER
 I SAY!  I know not what course others may take; but as for me, GIVE ME
CLIPPY,
 OR GIVE ME DEATH!

 

 Oh, I see you're from the same great country as Tony The Tiger Blair!
That's
 different!

Well we know him here under a different name, an expletive I shall not say
on the site but rhymes with war raving banker ;-)

 Expect a... package... in the... email... shortly. wink wink ;-)

Cheers mate... I;ve done too much programmming tonight so I want to
chill and work on graphics while i watch my systems fall to pieces :o


Regards,

Elfyn McBratney
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.exposure.org.uk



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installing pinfo

[Robert Mark Bram]

Howdy all!

I downloaded pinfo recently because I have heard it is a better help program
than man. I ran the cygwin setup program, selected pinfo and thought it ran
through ok. However, when I type pinfo, the command is not known:

 $ pinfo
 bash: pinfo: command not found
 $

I went and had a look at the files inside the pinfo download:
pinfo-0.6.6p1-1.tar.bz2. I found a readme file with the following
information in it:

To rebuild the package for cygwin:
  install pinfo-x.x.x-x-src package
  cd /usr/src/pinfo-x.x.x-x
  ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --libexecdir='$(sbindir) \
  --localstatedir=/var --datadir='$(prefix)/share'
  make
  make install-strip
  copy sample pinforc to /usr/share/pinfo/pinforc
  copy CAPITALIZEDFILES to /usr/doc/pinfo-x.x.x-x/

This is a bit confusing for me at the moment. I assumed:
  pinfo-x.x.x-x-src = pinfo-0.6.6p1-1.tar.bz2
and
  pinfo-x.x.x-x = pinfo-0.6.6p1-1
I then ran the code above. Below is the result. Obviously I am doing
something wrong - I would appreciate some help if anyone can spare the
patience for a blundering user such as I.

  $ pwd

/cygdrive/c/_oginals/cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2fftp.iasi.roedu.net%2fpub%2fmirrors%2
fsources.redhat.com%2fpub%2fcygwin/release/pinfo

  $ ls
  etc  package  pinfo-0.6.6p1-1.tar.bz2  usr

  $ install pinfo-0.6.6p1-1.tar.bz2 package

  $ cd /usr/src/pinfo-0.6.6p1-1
  bash: cd: /usr/src/pinfo-0.6.6p1-1: No such file or directory

  $ ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --libexecdir='$(sbindir) \
   --localstatedir=/var --datadir='$(prefix)/share'
   make
   make install-strip
   copy sample pinforc to /usr/share/pinfo/pinforc
   copy CAPITALIZEDFILES to /usr/doc/pinfo-x.x.x-x/

  $

  $ pinfo
  bash: pinfo: command not found


Rob
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