RE: Servers Alive product now supports OpenSSH running on Cygwin

[Frank Pikelner]

Before spending money, have a look at Nagios (http://www.nagios.org)


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Sent: January 15, 2004 4:19 PM
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Subject: Servers Alive product now supports OpenSSH running on Cygwin

I've been working with Woodstone tech support for the Servers Alive
system monitoring software (http://www.woodstone.nu/salive/) trying to
get their Remote PS Com add-on (designed for SSH on *nix) to work with
Cygwin + OpenSSH.

After about a week, they were able to get a version working with it.

So if you have lots of systems running Cygwin + OpenSSH that you need to
monitor, you can use SA for it now.

Now I can remotely monitor running processes on my systems through
OpenSSH running on Cygwin.

Thank you!

Jason DePriest


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Re: shortcuts on win2k

[Larry Hall]

At 03:39 PM 1/15/2004, Steve you wrote:
>Hi;
>
>All the cygwin user's gude had to say about symlinks is that they do not have all the 
>property info that windoze shortcuts have, ..which doesn't bother me.
>
>I want to use symlinks ( ln -s ) as I do in gnu/linux.
>
>I made some today on my win2k box at work.
>
>They worked fine in the cd command, but I could not get automcomplete to expand lists 
>on the symlinks.  cygstart did not seem to work with them.
>
>Using "ls" with a symlink only lists the symlink, the dir it points to.
>
>Is this normal, do symlinks have less features on cygwin such that they are not "as 
>good as the dir/file" being there..or am I missing something?


Apparently, you're missing something. ;-)  I'm not sure I know exactly what
you did and what you saw but I tried everything you mentioned in some
form and it worked just fine for me.  You should look closer at what you
did and see if you can find the source of the problem.  If you cannot 
and need to consult the list again on this issue, first visit:


>Problem reports:   http://cygwin.com/problems.html


and follow the recommendation there.  I'd also recommend that you 
provide annotated input and output of cases that you have problems with.  
This will allow others to duplicate your steps exactly and determine if 
there's anything "unusual" about your process.



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shortcuts on win2k

[Steve]

Hi;

All the cygwin user's gude had to say about symlinks is that they do not 
have all the property info that windoze shortcuts have, ..which 
doesn't bother me.

I want to use symlinks ( ln -s ) as I do in gnu/linux.

I made some today on my win2k box at work.

They worked fine in the cd command, but I could not get automcomplete to 
expand lists on the symlinks.  cygstart did not seem to work with them.

Using "ls" with a symlink only lists the symlink, the dir it points to.

Is this normal, do symlinks have less features on cygwin such that they 
are not "as good as the dir/file" being there..or am I missing 
something?

Thanks in advance

Steve



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Re: geomview successfully compiled!!

[Larry Hall]

At 06:34 PM 1/15/2004, B. Marchand you wrote:

>I'm not sure if the cygwin setup utility has an "Update" option where it reads the 
>version available on that mirror, compares it to the version you have installed, and 
>determines if you need an update or not. Anyway, it claimed I didn't need it but I 
>re-installed it anyhow.


Yes, setup has this.


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Mike Kelly is on paternity leave.

[Mike Kelly]

I will be out of the office starting  15/01/2004 and will not return until
05/02/2004.




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Re: A month worth of developers time available for cygwin.

[Joshua Daniel Franklin]

On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 04:29:35PM +0100, Ronald Landheer-Cieslak wrote:
> I've gotten my local Cygwin installation up to speed for this (openjade et
> al.) but I'll probably be working on my Gentoo box at home (seeing as I only
> have one Windows at my disposal at home, which does have Cygwin but which
> I hardly ever use, I'll do as much as possible on my normal development box..)

Great, I'm glad it worked. For running on Gentoo, the main thing you should
look for is docbook-sgml-utils, which is what they call docbook-utils. It
includes all the stuff like db2html and jw which you need. And of course 
you'll need CVS to get the docs.
 
> I'll try to get things working so I can run `make' properly and will report
> back when I've either gotten things going or have run into some really 
> blocking problem..

Sure, if you have non-Cygwin trouble feel free to email me too. If you've
never used DocBook here's a good introduction to the basics of how and why:



The whole DocBook DTD reference manual (DocBook: The Definitive Guide) is
online, so you can just Google for, say "funcsynopsis" and get descriptions
and parents/children. Of course, you probably won't need any of that since
you can look at examples in the other parts of the Cygwin documentation.

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Re: MS offers "Services For Unix" free of charge

[Joshua Daniel Franklin]

On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 12:10:57PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Robb, Sam wrote:
> 
> > > With carrier pigeon 1.0, the beak is so small you have to
> > > dis-assemble/re-assemble the IP packets.
> > >
> > > Carrier pigeon 2.0 has a bigger beak and can hold a full packet.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately the evolutionary process is goin slow.  Maybe within a
> > > couple of millenium.
> > >
> > > Have you thought about using IP-over-turkey instead?
> > >
> > > It is slower and not very sexy, but with the bigger beak, you can get
> > > better bandwidth.
> > >
> > > Greg
> >
> > We've been using IP-over-pelican.  No problems with packet
> > size, excellent bandwidth, and it's eliminated my need for
> > a weekly trip to the local sushi bar.
> >
> > -Samrobb
> 
> Hmm, I'd've thought you'd put the fish to good use -- IP-over-tuna should
> eliminate the need for fiber optic cables from the US to Europe...
>   Igor
> P.S. I sure hope Joshua Daniel Franklin is monitoring this thread.

It's already on the list :




Kidding aside, however, I thought maybe the MS-SFU versions of some GNU
utils might have useful patches, which they have to release to comply
with the GPL. I downloaded the bash source from

but it appears to be vanilla bash (except it includes pre-configured
Makefiles and a couple header diffs). Of course, Cygwin bash is vanilla
also. gcc might be much more interesting.

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Re: OLOCA

[Christopher Faylor]

On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 08:20:30PM -0500, Orlando Echevarria wrote:
>no problem!

i.e., "NP".

cgf

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Re: OLOCA

[Orlando Echevarria]

no problem!

O
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Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Orlando Echevarria wrote:


Rollin' on the floor laughing my ass [off | out] = ROFLMAO
Rollin' on the floor Lauhging = ROFL
Ta Ta for now = TTFN
Talk to you later = TTYL
Orlando


Orlando,

I appreciate the input.  However, I don't intend the OLOCA to be the
all-inclusive list of all possible acronyms -- there are much better lists
that accomplish this job, two of which are even linked to from the OLOCA
intro.  The approach I've taken so far is: if I see an acronym appear more
than once on the Cygwin lists, or if it's Cygwin-specific, or if I
particularly like it (hey, being the maintainer has to have its quirks!),
I include it in the OLOCA.  So, in summary, if you have an acronym that
you like and frequently use, and if you use it on any Cygwin list, I'm
likely to include it in the OLOCA.
Igor
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Re: keychain patch

[Steven E. Harris]

[It looks like the first portion of my message got stripped. Here it is
 again.]

Hack Kampbjorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If you send the patch to the list I'll look at it and possibly release
> an updated cygwin package.

Attached, per your request.

> But keep bugging the gentoo people that I don't have to maintain
> local patches.

I'll send them a note again. They released 2.0.8 about a week after I
sent my patch, I think, and it didn't include my changes, so I assumed
they had discarded my suggestions.

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[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: ssmtp-2.60.4-1

[Robert R Schneck-McConnell]

I have updated the version of ssmtp to 2.60.4-1.

Visible changes are:
 * bug fixes to ssmtp -t, which now seems to work fine
 * removal of arbitrary limits on number of recipients and header size

To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link on
the http://cygwin.com/ web page.  This downloads setup.exe to your
system.  Then, run setup and answer all of the questions.
The ssmtp package is in the Mail category.

ssmtp is an extremely simple sendmail replacement, which forwards messages
to a mailhub (e.g., your ISP's outgoing mail server), and does nothing
else.

Please read /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/ssmtp-2.60.4.README for configuration
information.

Robert


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geomview successfully compiled!!

[B. Marchand]

Thank you Brian!

Boy, these unupdated mirrors have been a real pain for me. I 
re-installed the lesstif package, as you suggested, and that fixed it. 
The problem is that when I first installed cygwin, I did so from a 
mirror that did not have the most up to date packages 
(ftp.csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/cygwin). Later, when I installed 
some packages that were missing, they came from 
ftp.mirrors.mcs.anl.gov/pub/cygwin.com, which was also not up to date. 
Someone recently suggested I try mirrors.kernel.org instead to update my 
xfree86 packages but I never updated lesstif.

I'm not sure if the cygwin setup utility has an "Update" option where it 
reads the version available on that mirror, compares it to the version 
you have installed, and determines if you need an update or not. Anyway, 
it claimed I didn't need it but I re-installed it anyhow.

Well, it works great now.

The installation instructions on
http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~mfoehl/Geomview_under_Windows.html
work fine, even without the -lDtPrint option. The alternate xforms 
library location
http://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/links/unix/desktop/xforms/NT/GnuWIN32/
seems to be acceptable as well.

To compile, and have the configure file detect the xforms library, the 
full path to them must be specified and that option must appear before 
the call to opengl or motif as follows

./configure -with-xforms=/usr/local/src/geomview-1.8.1/xforms/FORMS 
-with-motif=/usr/X11R6 -with-opengl=/usr/X11R6

I think I'll put up a website with ALL the files necessary, including 
the xforms library, for people to download in the future. I'll make sure 
to add a note listing the package versions I had installed when I 
compiled it.

Thanks again Brian.

--B.

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, B. Marchand wrote:

At any rate, I had already posted this to the cygwin-xfree site with no
real success in terms of responses. I posted it here as well only for
completion.
I appologize, as I just found that post.  I am *really* behind on my list
reading because of the flu, then the holidays, and then a funeral.  As
such, I am reading the list backward chronologically and trying to keep up
with the current stuff.
At any case, that post did not contain the vital error message that
clearly implies your problem.  If you would follow my suggestions about
updating your installation (particularly Xt, and lesstif), then
recompile, you should get much further.
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keychain patch (was: Filenames with spaces: very rare in Cygwin)

[Steven E. Harris]

--- /bin/keychain	2003-11-22 10:40:13.00100 -0800
+++ ./keychain	2003-11-25 13:17:16.296875000 -0800
@@ -9,6 +9,9 @@
 
 PATH="/sbin:/usr/sbin:${PATH}:/usr/ucb"; export PATH;
 
+LISTSEP="
+"   # Separate list elements with linefeed for splitting.
+
 myaction=""
 myactionarg=""
 noaskopt=""
@@ -55,7 +58,7 @@
 			nocolopt="yes"
 			;;
 		*)
-			mykeys="${mykeys} $1"
+			mykeys="${mykeys}${LISTSEP}$1"
 			;;
 	esac
 	shift
@@ -219,15 +222,15 @@
 cshpidf="${keydir}/${hostname}-csh"
 lockf="${keydir}/${hostname}-lock"
 
-if [ -f ${keydir} ]
+if [ -f "${keydir}" ]
 then
 	echo "$0: ${keydir} is a file (it should be a directory;) please fix."
 	exit 1
 #Solaris 9 doesn't have -e; using -d
-elif [ ! -d ${keydir} ]
+elif [ ! -d "${keydir}" ]
 then
-	mkdir ${keydir} || exit 1
-	chmod 0700 ${keydir}
+	mkdir "${keydir}" || exit 1
+	chmod 0700 "${keydir}"
 fi
 
 # perform lock if we have lockfile available
@@ -301,9 +304,9 @@
 fi
 
 SSH_AGENT_PID="NULL"
-if [ -f $pidf ]
+if [ -f "$pidf" ]
 then
-	. $pidf	
+	. "$pidf"
 fi
 
 # Copy application-specific environment variables into generic local variables.
@@ -441,7 +444,7 @@
 		done
 		if [ $skip -ne 1 ]
 		then
-			missingkeys="$missingkeys $x"
+			missingkeys="$missingkeys${LISTSEP}$x"
 			mcount=`expr $mcount + 1`
 		fi
 	done



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Re: MS offers "Services For Unix" free of charge

[Peter A. Castro]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 02:58:17PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> >Unfortunately, IP-over-cheetah can only handle short stretches of huge
> >bandwidth communication, and then the network goes down and the
> >connections need to be reset...

And that's different from existing IP-over-, how,
exactly?  :)

> And the power requirements are a little messy...

Oh, not really.  Just toss 'em a few ACK frames from time to time and
they'll keep running.  Never run out of ACK frames, or more than your
data packets might get munched!
(Ok, this is severely OT, so I'll stop now :)

> cgf

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Re: MS offers "Services For Unix" free of charge

[Larry Hall]

At 04:21 PM 1/15/2004, Shankar Unni you wrote:
>Larry Hall wrote:
>
>>The current buzz on this change was that MS was afraid 
>> too many "orphaned" 98 users (currently 25% of Windows users)
>> might "defect" to Linux rather than upgrade [...]
>
>Oooh. I wonder what they were smoking. I seriously doubt even a tiny fraction of 
>those users would even *think* about Linux, let alone think they could handle it 
>themselves. We're talking about folks who think adding a DIMM is something they have 
>to haul the PC back to the manufacturer for..


True but there are versions of Linux out there that are very easy to 
install and look and feel allot like Windows.  But that's a separate 
subject only potentially related to the topic at hand, mostly by timing.
I don't think it's on-topic for this list.


>No, I see this as more of a move towards enticing people to try SFU for free. Once 
>they're hooked, we'll see "SFU Professional", "SFU Enterprise Edition" (and dare I 
>dream? "SFU Data Center Edition").
>
>("The first hit's free, kid!").


Perhaps.  But if that's their goal they could have introduced those 
versions now.  I'm not saying they won't do what you suggest but the 
move they just made with it would imply to me that they aren't heading
that way.  I also don't see much to get "hooked" on that isn't available 
from another source, free or otherwise.  Regardless, I'm interested in 
the results of your upcoming tests.


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Re: Installed files permissions after an update of cygwin

[Larry Hall]

At 05:54 PM 1/15/2004, GarulfO:<> you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I recently update my Cygwin version.
>
>The first bit (execution) of the permission is set for all my files, for group and 
>sometimes other.


Windows sets the execution bit on all files it creates.  Is that what you're 
seeing?


>Did I make a bad manipulation ?


Perhaps, unless it's the issue I mentioned above.


>Can I correct this problem ?


Sure.  Use 'chmod' unless you're not on NT/W2K/XP/W2K3/LMNOP... or working
on a FAT/FAT32 file system.



>I saw an old mail on this subject but with no reponse. And I couldn't find more info 
>in FAQ.


That's cause your question isn't really an FAQ AFAICT.



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Re: Filenames with spaces: very rare in Cygwin

[Hack Kampbjorn]

Steven E. Harris wrote:
Igor Pechtchanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


FWIW, space is a valid filename character on both Unix and Windows.
This means that any script that assumes filenames to be space-free
(and lacking other shell special characters) is, IMO, broken.


Keychain has a lot of these space-in-filenames problems. I sent a
corrective patch against keychain 2.0.3 to the two listed maintainers
at the end of November, but received no reply.
If you send the patch to the list I'll look at it and possibly release an 
updated cygwin package. But keep bugging the gentoo people that I don't have to 
maintain local patches.

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Re: Filenames with spaces: very rare in Cygwin

[Steven E. Harris]

Igor Pechtchanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> FWIW, space is a valid filename character on both Unix and Windows.
> This means that any script that assumes filenames to be space-free
> (and lacking other shell special characters) is, IMO, broken.

Keychain has a lot of these space-in-filenames problems. I sent a
corrective patch against keychain 2.0.3 to the two listed maintainers
at the end of November, but received no reply.

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Re: Geomview compilation under cygwin ...

[Brian Ford]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, B. Marchand wrote:

> At any rate, I had already posted this to the cygwin-xfree site with no
> real success in terms of responses. I posted it here as well only for
> completion.
>
I appologize, as I just found that post.  I am *really* behind on my list
reading because of the flu, then the holidays, and then a funeral.  As
such, I am reading the list backward chronologically and trying to keep up
with the current stuff.

At any case, that post did not contain the vital error message that
clearly implies your problem.  If you would follow my suggestions about
updating your installation (particularly Xt, and lesstif), then
recompile, you should get much further.

Good luck.

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Installed files permissions after an update of cygwin

[GarulfO:<>]

Hello,

I recently update my Cygwin version.

The first bit (execution) of the permission is set for all my files, for 
group and sometimes other.

Did I make a bad manipulation ?
Can I correct this problem ?
I saw an old mail on this subject but with no reponse. And I couldn't 
find more info in FAQ.

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Re: Geomview compilation under cygwin ...

[B. Marchand]

Well, the only reason why I visited a separate website was to download 
the xforms library. The xforms library is not actually needed to compile 
geomview. It's only used to compile some of the examples that come with 
it. Geomview itself will run fine without it. Even if you do include it, 
it will have no impact on the geomview base itself.

After extensively searching the internet it became clear to me that a 
few people have tried to compile geomview under cygwin, and done so 
unsuccessfully. If there have been any successful compilations they 
haven't made it public knowledge, at least not that I've found yet. So, 
in that respect, at least I was able to get it to compile just fine in 
the most recent cygwin release. Unfortunately, just because something 
compiles doesn't mean it works, as is the case here. Seeing that I don't 
have a lot of time to go through the source and debug the code I was 
hoping someone could offer some insight in the interest of time.

The website that contains the installation instructions is, as you 
pointed out, German. Though the instructions are in English the source 
page itself is in German. I'm not up to date on my German so I can't do 
much about that. There's no email listed anywhere about the author of 
that page so I can't contact him, though I've tried to via other 
channels with no success.

So, the only source I have left is this, hoping that perhaps someone who 
has successfully compiled it before can share some information. Even 
better, perhaps I can get them to email me their source tree so I can 
compile it on my computer since they already got it to work. Perhaps 
Matthias Foehl, the author of that webpage, will be reading this mailing 
list at some point and he can get in touch with me, since I can't get a 
hold of him.

It's a small community but perhaps there's another geomview user out 
there reading this who can offer some pointers.

At any rate, I had already posted this to the cygwin-xfree site with no 
real success in terms of responses. I posted it here as well only for 
completion.

--B.

Christopher Faylor wrote:

On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 04:51:16PM -0500, B. Marchand wrote:
 

I followed the instructions on
http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~mfoehl/Geomview_under_Windows.html
about compiling geomview under cygwin. I had to acquire the forms
library for Win32 from a different source
http://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/links/unix/desktop/xforms/NT/GnuWIN32/
   

You found instructions on a website in Germany for compiling a package,
picked up another package for some additional pieces, and, then, went
to a third location for help when things didn't work as expected.
It seems to me that you probably should go back to the first site and
ask them for help about this since they are ostensibly the experts.
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Re: Python 2.3 Cygwin and SIP and PyQT

[Jason Tishler]

Rafael,

On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 01:23:07PM -0800, Rafael Kitover wrote:
> Then add something like the following to the link command in your
> Makefile:
> 
> -L/lib/python2.3/config/ -lpython2.3.dll
   ^^^

The above should be -lpython2.3 instead.

Nevertheless, I really appreciate you fielding this one.

Thanks,
Jason

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Re: OLOCA

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Orlando Echevarria wrote:

> Rollin' on the floor laughing my ass [off | out] = ROFLMAO
> Rollin' on the floor Lauhging = ROFL
>
> Ta Ta for now = TTFN
> Talk to you later = TTYL
>
> Orlando

Orlando,

I appreciate the input.  However, I don't intend the OLOCA to be the
all-inclusive list of all possible acronyms -- there are much better lists
that accomplish this job, two of which are even linked to from the OLOCA
intro.  The approach I've taken so far is: if I see an acronym appear more
than once on the Cygwin lists, or if it's Cygwin-specific, or if I
particularly like it (hey, being the maintainer has to have its quirks!),
I include it in the OLOCA.  So, in summary, if you have an acronym that
you like and frequently use, and if you use it on any Cygwin list, I'm
likely to include it in the OLOCA.
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Re: Geomview compilation under cygwin ...

[Christopher Faylor]

On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 04:51:16PM -0500, B. Marchand wrote:
>I followed the instructions on
>http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~mfoehl/Geomview_under_Windows.html
>
>about compiling geomview under cygwin. I had to acquire the forms
>library for Win32 from a different source
>
>http://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/links/unix/desktop/xforms/NT/GnuWIN32/

You found instructions on a website in Germany for compiling a package,
picked up another package for some additional pieces, and, then, went
to a third location for help when things didn't work as expected.

It seems to me that you probably should go back to the first site and
ask them for help about this since they are ostensibly the experts.
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Geomview compilation under cygwin ...

[B. Marchand]

I followed the instructions on
http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~mfoehl/Geomview_under_Windows.html
about compiling geomview under cygwin. I had to acquire the forms
library for Win32 from a different source
http://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/links/unix/desktop/xforms/NT/GnuWIN32/

since they seem to be temporarily unavailable from the xforms website 
(https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/xforms).
At any rate, everything seems to configure and compile fine. However, 
once I type in "geomview" and hit return, the computer thinks about it 
for a few seconds and then the prompt returns to normal and there is no 
geomview process running. No error messages are ever sent to the screen 
so I don't know what is going on. If I type "geomview -debug" instead I 
get the following message:

Warning: XmManager ClassInitialize: XmeTraitSet failed
Error: attempt to add non-widget child "DropSiteManager" to parent 
"Geomview" which supports only widgets.

I tried compiling it with both the gcc 3 and gcc 2.95.3, they both 
appear to compile but do nothing. I only had to make one modification to 
the instructions listed in
http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~mfoehl/Geomview_under_Windows.html.
I could not find the DtPrint library that is referenced in these 
instructions so I just left it out. Now, the default compiler is 3.x. 
So, to compile with 2.95.3, I copied the gcc-2.exe executable to gcc.exe 
and stored gcc.exe under another name. I hope that's all I had to do. 
Also, I tried running under both mwm and twm and same thing happens. 
Just for kicks, I went into the /usr/local/Geomview/bin directory and 
typed ./example and the "Velocity" window comes up so at least something 
comes works partially. I can also compile and run savi under cygwin without
any problems, of course without the Geomview 3D visualization part.

Any ideas as to what the problem may be?

Thanks.

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RE: bug in cygwin build of Make

[Rafael Kitover]

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Pearce
>Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:25 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: bug in cygwin build of Make
>
[SNIP]
>
>
>CVSVIEW= $(shell if [ -e CVS/Repository ]; then echo ${CURDIR} | sed
>-e "s|`cat CVS/Repository | sed -e "s|^[^/]*||"`||"; else echo
>$$CVSVIEW; fi)
>
>bus_pack-pkg.vhd : ${CVSVIEW}/doc/mem_map.csv ${CVSVIEW}/etc/bus_pack.pl
>perl ${CVSVIEW}/etc/bus_pack.pl -v ${CVSVIEW}/doc/mem_map.csv
>bus_pack-pkg.vhd
>
>
>Even though it now working, is there a better way of doing this?
>

Certainly, see this paper on non-recursive make, entitled "Recursive Make Considered 
Harmful":

http://aegis.sourceforge.net/auug97.pdf

I read it a few years ago and it completely changed my perspective on build systems. 
Using that technique, instead of executing
copies of make in subdirs, you include pieces of makefiles from subdirs and end up 
with only one dependency tree. This gives you
cleaner, more accurate builds with less spam. It's harder to convert a build system to 
that format than it is to use it when making
one from scratch :)

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Servers Alive product now supports OpenSSH running on Cygwin

[DePriest, Jason R.]

I've been working with Woodstone tech support for the Servers Alive
system monitoring software (http://www.woodstone.nu/salive/) trying to
get their Remote PS Com add-on (designed for SSH on *nix) to work with
Cygwin + OpenSSH.

After about a week, they were able to get a version working with it.

So if you have lots of systems running Cygwin + OpenSSH that you need to
monitor, you can use SA for it now.

Now I can remotely monitor running processes on my systems through
OpenSSH running on Cygwin.

Thank you!

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RE: Python 2.3 Cygwin and SIP and PyQT

[Rafael Kitover]

Those files would be in the Python library, see if you have a file such as:

/lib/python2.3/config/libpython2.3.dll.a

Then add something like the following to the link command in your Makefile:

-L/lib/python2.3/config/ -lpython2.3.dll

Also check ./configure --help, there might an option like --with-python-lib=whatever,
Running ./configure LDFLAGS="-L/lib/python2.3/config/ -lpython2.3.dll" might also do 
it.

Btw, to search for undefined references to symbols, you can do stuff like:

nm -A /lib/python2.3/config/libpython2.3.dll.a | grep PyInt_FromLong

Sometimes even nm -A /lib/* | grep -i foo can help when trying to get something to 
build.

HTH

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hardy Jonck
>Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 2:34 AM
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: Python 2.3 Cygwin and SIP and PyQT
>
>Hi All,
>
>I am still on my sip compile spree, and need some help with the following
>when running 'make':
>
>siplib.o(.text+0x3b8e):siplib.c: undefined reference to `_PyInt_FromLong'
>siplib.o(.text+0x3be5):siplib.c: undefined reference to `_PyInt_AsLong'
>Info: resolving _qApp by linking to __imp__qApp (auto-import)
>collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>make: *** [/usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packages/cygsip-10.dll] Error 1
>
>
>
>
>
>Can someone please point me in the right direction as to what I might be
>missing.
>
>Sincerely
>Hardy Jonck
>


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Re: bug in cygwin build of Make

[Jason Pearce]

This indeed solves the problem and thanks for explaining the default 
shell issue. I actually thought that bash was used under cygwin, and I 
often construct syntax in a bash shell before using it in a makefile. It 
usually works but you've pointed out why there will be subtle differences.

BTW the example I sent was obviously a cut down to illustrate the 
problem. I actually construct  a variable that points to the root 
directory of the checked out CVS view (or a default an environment 
variable if that directory is not under CVS yet), that  enables me to 
specify the "absolute path" to my scripts (or other) directories.  Like 
this:

CVSVIEW= $(shell if [ -e CVS/Repository ]; then echo ${CURDIR} | sed 
-e "s|`cat CVS/Repository | sed -e "s|^[^/]*||"`||"; else echo 
$$CVSVIEW; fi)

bus_pack-pkg.vhd : ${CVSVIEW}/doc/mem_map.csv ${CVSVIEW}/etc/bus_pack.pl
   perl ${CVSVIEW}/etc/bus_pack.pl -v ${CVSVIEW}/doc/mem_map.csv 
bus_pack-pkg.vhd

Even though it now working, is there a better way of doing this?

Jason


JP> dir1/Makefile:
JP> --
JP> VARIABLE = $(shell echo $$PWD)
JP> 
JP> sources :
JP> @echo VARIABLE set to ${VARIABLE}

The GNU make variable CURDIR is set by make to the current working
directory of the executing make.  This is probably the variable you
want.
Hope this helps,
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Re: MS offers "Services For Unix" free of charge

[Shankar Unni]

Larry Hall wrote:

The current buzz on this change was that MS was afraid 
> too many "orphaned" 98 users (currently 25% of Windows users)
> might "defect" to Linux rather than upgrade [...]
Oooh. I wonder what they were smoking. I seriously doubt even a tiny 
fraction of those users would even *think* about Linux, let alone think 
they could handle it themselves. We're talking about folks who think 
adding a DIMM is something they have to haul the PC back to the 
manufacturer for..

No, I see this as more of a move towards enticing people to try SFU for 
free. Once they're hooked, we'll see "SFU Professional", "SFU Enterprise 
Edition" (and dare I dream? "SFU Data Center Edition").

("The first hit's free, kid!").

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OLOCA

[Orlando Echevarria]

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Re: MS offers "Services For Unix" free of charge

[Shankar Unni]

Andrew DeFaria wrote:

Last I checked SFU's NFS was just DiskAccess and the POSIX was merely a 
30-day trial of MKS. 
30-day trial? It's actually a subset of the MKS toolkit, but is not 
30-day restricted in any way. Previously, if you paid the $99, you got 
most of what you would need anyway. Now it's free and unrestricted.

What SFU 3.x adds is that everything has been ported to the underlying 
Interix API, which is they claim is "not an emulation layer like Cygwin" 
(nice to see them acknowledge Cygwin!), but apparently is a 1st-class NT 
subsystem.

I plan to try it out soon and see how well it interoperates with Cygwin. 
Obviously some things overlap (services, for instance - even with SFU, 
they have two telnet servers, so this isn't something new or unexpected).

What'll be interesting is all those cross-toolkit usages (like starting 
a Cygwin bash with "tty" from the SFU sh and seeing if things misbehave 
:-).  Nothing will be reported as a "Cygwin bug", I promise :-).

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Re: MS offers "Services For Unix" free of charge

[Christopher Faylor]

On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 02:58:17PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>Unfortunately, IP-over-cheetah can only handle short stretches of huge
>bandwidth communication, and then the network goes down and the
>connections need to be reset...

And the power requirements are a little messy...

cgf

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cygwin/regex is non-POSIX

[Sam Steingold]

the cygwin regex is not POSIX.
backrefs are not available by default (apparently you need REG_BACKR for
that), "(a|)*" cannot be compiled because of "empty (sub)expression",
&c &c.
any plans to fix this? (e.g., by replacing it with gnu regex?)
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Re: /cygdrive/a permission denied

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Ahmed Hashim wrote:

>  --- Larry Hall wrote:
> At 01:30 PM 1/15/2004, Ahmed Hashim you wrote:
> > >I'm using cygwin on Windows XP. I want to create a
> > >boot disk for my target machine
> > >
> > >when I do the following:
> > >dd conv=sync if=install/bin/redboot.bin
> > of=/cygdrive/a
> > >
> > >I get the following message:
> > >dd: opening '/cygdrive/a': Permission denied
> >
> >
> > Use /dev/fd0 instead.
>
> I thought about that but I don't have /dev/fd0 in fact
> I don't have /dev at all.

See .
HTH,
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RE: MS offers "Services For Unix" free of charge

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Peter A. Castro wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Dave Korn wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 20:35, Brian Dessent wrote:
> > > > Ooh, ooh!  Somebody port KDE's Kioslave feature to Cygwin.
> > > > Then I'll
> > > > finally be able to mount as a drive letter that ISO9660 image on my
> > > > remote Appletalk share that's tunneled through ssh through a http
> > > > proxy on my IP-over-carrier pigeon link.
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > With carrier pigeon 1.0, the beak is so small you have to
> > > dis-assemble/re-assemble the IP packets.
> >
> >   Unfortunately, PMTU discovery doesn't work over avian carrier.  Sending
> > out bigger and bigger packets until you find the size that makes the carrier
> > choke was banned by the humane society  But it's a good way to make
> > pate
>
> Have you considered IP-over-cheetah?  It's lightning speed provides much
> better interactive responsiveness, with minimal packet loss (unless it's
> real hungry).  Simply tie the packet around it's neck (provided it
> doesn't byte your packet assembler), point it towards the gazelle enabled
> backbone traffic feeder and off it's goes! :)
>
> >cheers,
> >   DaveK

Unfortunately, IP-over-cheetah can only handle short stretches of huge
bandwidth communication, and then the network goes down and the
connections need to be reset...
Igor
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Re: /cygdrive/a permission denied

[Brian Ford]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Ahmed Hashim wrote:

> Larry Hall wrote:
> > At 01:30 PM 1/15/2004, Ahmed Hashim you wrote:
> > >I'm using cygwin on Windows XP. I want to create a
> > >boot disk for my target machine
> > >
> > >when I do the following:
> > >dd conv=sync if=install/bin/redboot.bin of=/cygdrive/a
> > >
> > >I get the following message:
> > >dd: opening '/cygdrive/a': Permission denied
> > >
> > Use /dev/fd0 instead.
> >
> I thought about that but I don't have /dev/fd0 in fact
> I don't have /dev at all.
>
http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-specialnames.html#AEN757

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Re: /cygdrive/a permission denied

[Ahmed Hashim]

 --- Larry Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At
01:30 PM 1/15/2004, Ahmed Hashim you wrote:
> >I'm using cygwin on Windows XP. I want to create a
> >boot disk for my target machine 
> >
> >when I do the following:
> >dd conv=sync if=install/bin/redboot.bin
> of=/cygdrive/a
> >
> >I get the following message: 
> >dd: opening '/cygdrive/a': Permission denied 
> 
> 
> Use /dev/fd0 instead.
> 

I thought about that but I don't have /dev/fd0 in fact
I don't have /dev at all.

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Re: /cygdrive/a permission denied

[Larry Hall]

At 01:30 PM 1/15/2004, Ahmed Hashim you wrote:
>I'm using cygwin on Windows XP. I want to create a
>boot disk for my target machine 
>
>when I do the following:
>dd conv=sync if=install/bin/redboot.bin of=/cygdrive/a
>
>I get the following message: 
>dd: opening '/cygdrive/a': Permission denied 


Use /dev/fd0 instead.


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RE: CVS b0rked?

[Brian Ford]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Dave Korn wrote:
> Brian Ford wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Brian Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 15 January 2004 17:50
> > To: Dave Korn
> > Cc: cygwin[snip]
> > Subject: RE: CVS b0rked?
> >
I think we would all prefer that even the cygwin list address be trivially
concealed.

> > Please don't include plain text email addresses in the body
> > of messages.
> > They are food for spam harvesters.  I imagine this was just
> > an oversight as I think I have seen you remove them before?
> >
>   Oops, yes indeed.  Sorry.  It happened because I replied to the copy you
> sent me directly instead of to the copy which came via the listserv with the
> redacted headers.  So I quoted an addy, but then again you've been Cc'ing
> posters as well as sending to the list.  Chalk us up one minor breach of
> list etiquette each!
>
Have you seen this?

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-12/msg00641.html

I must admit that with that option available, I'm too lazy to check or
remember who is on the list and who is not.  I just take the default reply
my mailer (pine) presents to me.  I think that is as much as anyone can
reasonably ask.

> > You could try to debug it :).
>
>   Ya never know, I might just do that.  Is it worth rebuilding with
> --enable-debugging at configure time ?  I dunno how much worthwhile that
> will actually give me
>
IIRC, --enable-debugging just adds more verbose logging (primarily
strace) and enables CYGWIN_DEBUG functionality.  So, it is probably not
worth it.  Just debug with the version you've got.

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RE: MS offers "Services For Unix" free of charge

[Peter A. Castro]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Dave Korn wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 20:35, Brian Dessent wrote:
> > > Ooh, ooh!  Somebody port KDE's Kioslave feature to Cygwin.
> > > Then I'll
> > > finally be able to mount as a drive letter that ISO9660 image on my
> > > remote Appletalk share that's tunneled through ssh through a http
> > > proxy on my IP-over-carrier pigeon link.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > With carrier pigeon 1.0, the beak is so small you have to
> > dis-assemble/re-assemble the IP packets.
>
>   Unfortunately, PMTU discovery doesn't work over avian carrier.  Sending
> out bigger and bigger packets until you find the size that makes the carrier
> choke was banned by the humane society  But it's a good way to make
> pate

Have you considered IP-over-cheetah?  It's lightning speed provides much
better interactive responsiveness, with minimal packet loss (unless it's
real hungry).  Simply tie the packet around it's neck (provided it
doesn't byte your packet assembler), point it towards the gazelle enabled
backbone traffic feeder and off it's goes! :)

>cheers,
>   DaveK

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/cygdrive/a permission denied

[Ahmed Hashim]

I'm using cygwin on Windows XP. I want to create a
boot disk for my target machine 

when I do the following:
dd conv=sync if=install/bin/redboot.bin of=/cygdrive/a

I get the following message: 
dd: opening '/cygdrive/a': Permission denied 


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RE: CVS b0rked?

[Dave Korn]

> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 15 January 2004 17:50
> To: Dave Korn
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CVS b0rked?

> Please don't include plain text email addresses in the body 
> of messages.
> They are food for spam harvesters.  I imagine this was just 
> an oversight as I think I have seen you remove them before?

  Oops, yes indeed.  Sorry.  It happened because I replied to the copy you
sent me directly instead of to the copy which came via the listserv with the
redacted headers.  So I quoted an addy, but then again you've been Cc'ing
posters as well as sending to the list.  Chalk us up one minor breach of
list etiquette each!

> > > [snip]
> > > > FAIL: pthread/cancel11.c (execute)
> > > >
> > > I don't see this one on NT4.
> > >
> >   I repeated 'make check', and it repeated.

> There should be no reason to rebuild under a different Cygwin 
> DLL version.

  Agreed, unless by some terrible coincidence there's a bug in the snapshot
version that impacts on the compiler in some subtle way.  However that's a
pretty unlikely possibility I agree.

> However, if you did not do a clean build as I suggested after 
> CGF fixed the CVS tree, I would again recommend it.

  Yeh, I just completely rm my obj and install dirs every time.
 
> You could try to debug it :).

  Ya never know, I might just do that.  Is it worth rebuilding with
--enable-debugging at configure time ?  I dunno how much worthwhile that
will actually give me

  DaveK



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Re: Problem compiling cygwin1.dll from CVS

[Christopher Faylor]

On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 12:15:15PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> Nope.  I routinely build cygwin with text mode mounts with no problems
>> at all.  I don't know why you were having problems but we're certainly
>> not going to document a bug.
>
>This is not a text mode mount problem.  This is a problem of downloading
>files in text mode, and then transferring them over to a binary mount
>(without appropriate conversion), so you get CRLF files on binary mounts.
>Which is a peculiar (and, IIUC, unsupported) mode of operation.  FWIW, I
>agree with CGF - this doesn't merit documenting.  It's in the archives,
>anyway.

What probably needs documenting is what the letters in "FAQ" stand for.
No, wait.  That's probably there already.
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RE: monitor filesystem changes in real-time

[Ognen Duzlevski]

Hmmm, yeah, I was looking for a GPLed tool with source code.
Thank you in any case,
Ognen

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) wrote:

> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:05:45 -0500
> From: "Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: monitor filesystem changes in real-time
>
> You might want to look through what's available at
> http://www.sysinternals.com/.  Maybe filemon?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ognen Duzlevski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:50 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: monitor filesystem changes in real-time
>
> Does anyone know if there is a freely available source of a utility to
> monitor filesuystem changes that runs under Windows / cygwin?
>
> I know there are APi functions under Windows to receive notifications on
> which files/directories change - did someone write a freely available
> daemon/service for cygwin?
>
> Thank you,
> Ognen

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RE: Permissions get lost when moving files between drives.

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Dave Korn wrote:

> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Igor Pechtchanski
>
> > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Ronald Fischer wrote:
> >
> > > I'm using cygwin bash on a Windows 2000 machine. When I perform the
> > > following steps (c: is the local drive, h: is a network
> > drive, which
> > > is also my $HOME):
> > >
> > > cd c:/
> > > echo xxx >h:/tmp/x
> > > mv h:/tmp/x y
> > >
> > > then a
> > >
> > >   ls -l
> > >
> > > shows that c:/y has the permissions set to 000, though h:/tmp/x has
> > > them correct as 644.
> > >
> > > Ronald
>
> > At a guess, your C: drive is a FAT (or, worse yet, FAT32)
> > drive.  The cygcheck output mentioned at the above link will
> > show whether this is the case.
> >   Igor
>
>
>   Nope, it's more complicated than that.  Here on my system I've got cygwin
> root installed on an NTFS partition (under XP), and /win/t is a mountpoint
> for the dos path T:\ which is a samba share from a linux box  Now watch:

BTW, in this case I hope you're aware of both "ntsec" and "smbntsec", and
how they interact.

> ---snip---
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /> echo helloworld >testfile
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /> ls -la testfile
> -rw-r--r--1 dk   Domain U   11 Jan 15 17:12 testfile
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /> echo helloworld >/win/t/testfile2
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /> ls -la /win/t/testfile2
> -rw-r--r--1 dk   Domain U   11 Jan 15  2004 /win/t/testfile2
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /> cp /win/t/testfile2 ./testfile2a
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /> mv /win/t/testfile2 ./testfile2b
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /> ls -la testfile*
> -rw-r--r--1 dk   Domain U   11 Jan 15 17:12 testfile
> -rw-r--r--1 dk   Domain U   11 Jan 15 17:12 testfile2a
> -rwx--+   1 dk   Domain U   11 Jan 15  2004 testfile2b
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] />
> ---snip---
>
>   So, I observe that:
>
> A) it's not to do with OP's use of dos paths with drive letters and colons

I never said it did.  I suspected he's on a non-permission-preserving
filesystem.

> B) it's not to do with FAT-vs-NTFS

Possible, but without the cygcheck output, your guess is as good as mine.
FWIW, I suspect everything is behaving as intended (see below in C).

> C) it's not always 000 that the perms get set to, for me it's 700

If the owner of the file on the samba share is not the same as your
Windows login name, the attempt to preserve file permissions might result
in something like that.

> D) it happens with cp but not with mv

Of course it does -- see below. :-)

> E) something funny seems to occur with the c/m/a timestamps as well.
>
>   Of those three, D) should give a big clue if anyone's familiar with the
> different internals of those two commands...

Nope, D (and E) is bogus, sorry.  "mv" will attempt to preserve all of the
file attributes (owner, permissions, ACLs, timestamps, etc).  "cp" by
itself will not -- it happily creates a new file with default permissions.
If you want this test to be conclusive, try "cp -p" (which, I suspect,
will behave identically to "mv").

>cheers,
>  DaveK

In any case, until we see the OP's cygcheck output, the applicability of
the above to his problem is all guesswork on both of our parts.
HTH,
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RE: CVS b0rked?

[Brian Ford]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Dave Korn wrote:

> > -Original Message-
> > From: Brian Ford [snip]
> > Sent: 15 January 2004 17:07
> > To: Dave Korn
> > Cc: Cygwin [snip]
> > Subject: RE: CVS b0rked?
> >
Please don't include plain text email addresses in the body of messages.
They are food for spam harvesters.  I imagine this was just an oversight
as I think I have seen you remove them before?

> Brian Ford wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Dave Korn wrote:
> >
> > > Ah, thanks for clearing that up.  I just updated and now it's much
> > > healthier:
> > >
> > [snip]
> > > FAIL: pthread/cancel11.c (execute)
> > >
> > I don't see this one on NT4.
> >
>   I repeated 'make check', and it repeated.  I've just done a cvs update and
> nothing changed except strdup in libiberty, so I'm up-to-date.  The main
> quirk of my setup is that I'm running on the 20040103 snapshot of the cygwin
> dll.  I could try blowing away my build dir and starting again with the
> release version of the dll instead, just to see if it makes a difference
> ...?
>
There should be no reason to rebuild under a different Cygwin DLL version.
However, if you did not do a clean build as I suggested after CGF fixed
the CVS tree, I would again recommend it.

You could try to debug it :).

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Re: bug in cygwin build of Make

[Robert Mecklenburg]

JP> dir1/Makefile:
JP> --
JP> VARIABLE = $(shell echo $$PWD)
JP> 
JP> sources :
JP> @echo VARIABLE set to ${VARIABLE}

The GNU make variable CURDIR is set by make to the current working
directory of the executing make.  This is probably the variable you
want.

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RE: MS offers "Services For Unix" free of charge

[Dave Korn]

[apologies to Greg for hitting the wrong reply button and dumping this in
his personal inbox when it was meant for the list] 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Freemyer
 
> On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 20:35, Brian Dessent wrote:

> > Ooh, ooh!  Somebody port KDE's Kioslave feature to Cygwin.  
> Then I'll
> > finally be able to mount as a drive letter that ISO9660 image on my 
> > remote Appletalk share that's tunneled through ssh through a http 
> > proxy on my IP-over-carrier pigeon link.
> > 
> > Brian
> > 
> With carrier pigeon 1.0, the beak is so small you have to 
> dis-assemble/re-assemble the IP packets.

  Unfortunately, PMTU discovery doesn't work over avian carrier.  Sending
out bigger and bigger packets until you find the size that makes the carrier
choke was banned by the humane society  But it's a good way to make
pate

 
   cheers,
  DaveK


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RE: CVS b0rked?

[Dave Korn]

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 15 January 2004 17:07
> To: Dave Korn
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CVS b0rked?
> 
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Dave Korn wrote:
> 
> > Ah, thanks for clearing that up.  I just updated and now it's much
> > healthier:
> >
> [snip]
> > FAIL: pthread/cancel11.c (execute)
> >
> I don't see this one on NT4.


  I repeated 'make check', and it repeated.  I've just done a cvs update and
nothing changed except strdup in libiberty, so I'm up-to-date.  The main
quirk of my setup is that I'm running on the 20040103 snapshot of the cygwin
dll.  I could try blowing away my build dir and starting again with the
release version of the dll instead, just to see if it makes a difference
...?

   cheers,
 DaveK



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RE: Permissions get lost when moving files between drives.

[Dave Korn]

 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Igor Pechtchanski

> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Ronald Fischer wrote:
> 
> > I'm using cygwin bash on a Windows 2000 machine. When I perform the 
> > following steps (c: is the local drive, h: is a network 
> drive, which 
> > is also my $HOME):
> >
> > cd c:/
> > echo xxx >h:/tmp/x
> > mv h:/tmp/x y
> >
> > then a
> >
> >   ls -l
> >
> > shows that c:/y has the permissions set to 000, though h:/tmp/x has 
> > them correct as 644.
> >
> > Ronald

> At a guess, your C: drive is a FAT (or, worse yet, FAT32) 
> drive.  The cygcheck output mentioned at the above link will 
> show whether this is the case.
>   Igor


  Nope, it's more complicated than that.  Here on my system I've got cygwin
root installed on an NTFS partition (under XP), and /win/t is a mountpoint
for the dos path T:\ which is a samba share from a linux box  Now watch:

---snip---
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /> echo helloworld >testfile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /> ls -la testfile
-rw-r--r--1 dk   Domain U   11 Jan 15 17:12 testfile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /> echo helloworld >/win/t/testfile2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /> ls -la /win/t/testfile2
-rw-r--r--1 dk   Domain U   11 Jan 15  2004 /win/t/testfile2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /> cp /win/t/testfile2 ./testfile2a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /> mv /win/t/testfile2 ./testfile2b
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /> ls -la testfile*
-rw-r--r--1 dk   Domain U   11 Jan 15 17:12 testfile
-rw-r--r--1 dk   Domain U   11 Jan 15 17:12 testfile2a
-rwx--+   1 dk   Domain U   11 Jan 15  2004 testfile2b
[EMAIL PROTECTED] />
---snip---

  So, I observe that:

A) it's not to do with OP's use of dos paths with drive letters and colons
B) it's not to do with FAT-vs-NTFS
C) it's not always 000 that the perms get set to, for me it's 700
D) it happens with cp but not with mv
E) something funny seems to occur with the c/m/a timestamps as well.

  Of those three, D) should give a big clue if anyone's familiar with the
different internals of those two commands...

   cheers, 
 DaveK





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Re: sendmsg/recvmsg file descriptor passing

[David Rosenbloom]

Thanks for the clarification - I missed that post, and was distracted by this
earlier one, which induced optimism:
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2002-06/msg00657.html

So apparently that's that for file descriptor passing. Plz advise if there's
another method that works in cygwin.

- davidr



On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Brian Ford wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, David Rosenbloom wrote:
>
> > I am unable to get sendmsg and recvmsg to successfully pass open file
> > descriptors between processes. I am using the Stevens APUE sample as a template,
> > the 4.3BSD version, since that matches the msghdr struct in cygwin/socket.h. I
> > notice a bunch of postings in the archive indicating (a) that file descriptor
> > passing was not supported at one time, and (b) that it may have been
> > subsequently added - I can't tell from the threads.
> >
> I haven't seen any that imply it has been added.
>
> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2004-01/msg00060.html
>
> seems pretty clear to me.
>
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Canonical Serial Input Issue

[Tim Arganbright]

I'm trying to read GPS input on the serial port of my
WinXP PC and am having the following issue:  
The input is a canonical read.  The read returns after
only 8 characters each time, instead of waiting to
read the whole line.  The same exact code works on my
Linux machine, however.

Here is the serial setup code...please let me know if
you have any tips on what silly mistake I am making in
the Cygwin environment:

#define BAUDRATE B4800

void setup_serial_port(termios *, int);

int main(int argc, char **argv)
{

   serial_fd = open("/dev/ttyS0", O_RDWR | O_NOCTTY);

   setup_serial_port(&newtio, serial_fd);

 result = read(serial_fd, serial_buf, 255);

}//end main

void setup_serial_port (termios *settings, int fd)
{
   // Initialize control characters
   settings->c_cc[VINTR]= 0;
   settings->c_cc[VQUIT]= 0;
   settings->c_cc[VERASE]   = 0;
   settings->c_cc[VKILL]= 0;
   settings->c_cc[VEOF] = 4;
   settings->c_cc[VTIME]= 0;
   settings->c_cc[VMIN] = 1;
   settings->c_cc[VSWTC]= 0;
   settings->c_cc[VSTART]   = 0;
   settings->c_cc[VSTOP]= 0;
   settings->c_cc[VSUSP]= 0;
   settings->c_cc[VEOL] = 0;
   settings->c_cc[VREPRINT] = 0;
   settings->c_cc[VDISCARD] = 0;
   settings->c_cc[VWERASE]  = 0;
   settings->c_cc[VLNEXT]   = 0;
   settings->c_cc[VEOL2]= 0;

   settings->c_cflag = BAUDRATE | CRTSCTS | CS8 |
CLOCAL | CREAD;

   settings->c_iflag = IGNPAR | ICRNL;
   settings->c_oflag = 0;

   /* set input mode (canonical) */
   settings->c_lflag = ICANON;

   tcflush(fd, TCIFLUSH);
   tcsetattr(fd,TCSANOW,settings);
}



Here is the output from Cygwin:
   GPS Data: $GPRMC,,
   GPS Data: V,,,
   GPS Data: 150104,0
   GPS Data: .3,E,N*3
   GPS Data: A
$GPRM
   GPS Data: B,V,
   GPS Data: ,,,A
   GPS Data: ,N*13
$
   GPS Data: GPGGA,,,
   GPS Data: ,,,0,00,
---

Thanks


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Re: Problem compiling cygwin1.dll from CVS

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 11:52:51AM +0100, Gabriel SOUBIES wrote:
> >I finally managed to re-build Cygwin, and your hint helped me a lot!
> >The problem was that i was downloading the sources using Cygwin's CVS
> >on a machine where Cygwin had been installed in NT mode (not by me).
> >Then I burned the sources and tried to compile on my machine, where
> >Cygwin is installed in Unix mode.  I had Cygwin reinstalled in Unix
> >mode on the machine I used for downloading and that solved everything.
> >Maybe a note about this problem could be added to the FAQ page named
> >"How do I rebuild the tools on my NT box?" ...
>
> Nope.  I routinely build cygwin with text mode mounts with no problems
> at all.  I don't know why you were having problems but we're certainly
> not going to document a bug.
>
> cgf

This is not a text mode mount problem.  This is a problem of downloading
files in text mode, and then transferring them over to a binary mount
(without appropriate conversion), so you get CRLF files on binary mounts.
Which is a peculiar (and, IIUC, unsupported) mode of operation.  FWIW, I
agree with CGF - this doesn't merit documenting.  It's in the archives,
anyway.
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Re: Permissions get lost when moving files between drives.

[Brian Ford]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Ronald Fischer wrote:

> I'm using cygwin bash on a Windows 2000 machine. When I perform the following steps
> (c: is the local drive, h: is a network drive, which is also my $HOME):
>
> cd c:/
> echo xxx >h:/tmp/x
> mv h:/tmp/x y
>
> then a
>
>   ls -l
>
> shows that c:/y has the permissions set to 000, though h:/tmp/x has them correct as 
> 644.
>
Posting the exact output of ls -l would be helpfull.  Also, a getfacl y
would be nice too.

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RE: MS offers "Services For Unix" free of charge

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Robb, Sam wrote:

> > With carrier pigeon 1.0, the beak is so small you have to
> > dis-assemble/re-assemble the IP packets.
> >
> > Carrier pigeon 2.0 has a bigger beak and can hold a full packet.
> >
> > Unfortunately the evolutionary process is goin slow.  Maybe within a
> > couple of millenium.
> >
> > Have you thought about using IP-over-turkey instead?
> >
> > It is slower and not very sexy, but with the bigger beak, you can get
> > better bandwidth.
> >
> > Greg
>
> We've been using IP-over-pelican.  No problems with packet
> size, excellent bandwidth, and it's eliminated my need for
> a weekly trip to the local sushi bar.
>
> -Samrobb

Hmm, I'd've thought you'd put the fish to good use -- IP-over-tuna should
eliminate the need for fiber optic cables from the US to Europe...
Igor
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Re: Filenames with spaces: very rare in Cygwin

[fergus]

> FWIW, space is a valid filename character on both Unix and Windows.
> This means that any script that assumes filenames to be space-free (and
> lacking other shell special characters) is, IMO, broken.

Yes, I see the force of this. Thank you. I will look at the script and try
to amend it so that it no longer stumbles at these three. Fergus



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Re: Permissions get lost when moving files between drives.

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Ronald Fischer wrote:

> I'm using cygwin bash on a Windows 2000 machine. When I perform the
> following steps (c: is the local drive, h: is a network drive, which is
> also my $HOME):
>
> cd c:/
> echo xxx >h:/tmp/x
> mv h:/tmp/x y
>
> then a
>
>   ls -l
>
> shows that c:/y has the permissions set to 000, though h:/tmp/x has them
> correct as 644.
>
> Ronald

Ronald,

Please read (and follow)
> Problem reports:   http://cygwin.com/problems.html

At a guess, your C: drive is a FAT (or, worse yet, FAT32) drive.  The
cygcheck output mentioned at the above link will show whether this is the
case.
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RE: CVS b0rked?

[Brian Ford]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Dave Korn wrote:

> Ah, thanks for clearing that up.  I just updated and now it's much
> healthier:
>
[snip]
> FAIL: pthread/cancel11.c (execute)
>
I don't see this one on NT4.

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RE: monitor filesystem changes in real-time

[Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID)]

You might want to look through what's available at
http://www.sysinternals.com/.  Maybe filemon?

-Original Message-
From: Ognen Duzlevski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: monitor filesystem changes in real-time

Does anyone know if there is a freely available source of a utility to
monitor filesuystem changes that runs under Windows / cygwin?

I know there are APi functions under Windows to receive notifications on
which files/directories change - did someone write a freely available
daemon/service for cygwin?

Thank you,
Ognen

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Re: Filenames with spaces: very rare in Cygwin

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In the entire Cygwin provision there are only 3 filenames containing spaces,
> all under /usr/ssl/man. Up until recently, I think there was only one, being
> /usr/local/ssl/man/man7/Modes\ of\ DES.7. The other two are under
> /usr/local/ssl/man/man3/.
> Nothing is broken, but this occurrence (just 3 in ~70,000) is possibly
> sufficiently rare to maybe merit attention and amendment? To, dunno,
> Modes_of_DES.7 and similar?
> This might break things, in which case obviously leave as is. Sorry for
> mentioning it. In any case, I ask for purely selfish reasons: the spaces
> screw up an otherwise rather neat script for fiddling about with +R and +S
> files when achieving a portable version of Cygwin on CD.
> Fergus

Fergus,

FWIW, space is a valid filename character on both Unix and Windows.  This
means that any script that assumes filenames to be space-free (and lacking
other shell special characters) is, IMO, broken.  Cygwin seems to be one
platform where this issue bites people with great regularity, but there's
no reason why this can't happen on Unix (and probably will with the advent
of file managers like Nautilus from Gnome).  The bottom line is, even if
these files get fixed, there are no guarantees this won't bite you again
some time in the future.  FWIW, you can easily accomodate quotable
characters (spaces and such) in your scripts (I've been advocating this in
Cygwin scripts for a while now).  The two tricks I can recommend are 'eval
"set -- $QUOTEDARGLIST"' and using non-standard values of IFS.  I have
scripts with samples of both of these approaches, which I can send you on
request (I've posted some of them to the Cygwin lists, too).
Igor
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Re: sendmsg/recvmsg file descriptor passing

[Brian Ford]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, David Rosenbloom wrote:

> I am unable to get sendmsg and recvmsg to successfully pass open file
> descriptors between processes. I am using the Stevens APUE sample as a template,
> the 4.3BSD version, since that matches the msghdr struct in cygwin/socket.h. I
> notice a bunch of postings in the archive indicating (a) that file descriptor
> passing was not supported at one time, and (b) that it may have been
> subsequently added - I can't tell from the threads.
>
I haven't seen any that imply it has been added.

http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2004-01/msg00060.html

seems pretty clear to me.

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Re: Problem compiling cygwin1.dll from CVS

[Christopher Faylor]

On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 11:52:51AM +0100, Gabriel SOUBIES wrote:
>I finally managed to re-build Cygwin, and your hint helped me a lot!
>The problem was that i was downloading the sources using Cygwin's CVS
>on a machine where Cygwin had been installed in NT mode (not by me).
>Then I burned the sources and tried to compile on my machine, where
>Cygwin is installed in Unix mode.  I had Cygwin reinstalled in Unix
>mode on the machine I used for downloading and that solved everything.
>Maybe a note about this problem could be added to the FAQ page named
>"How do I rebuild the tools on my NT box?" ...

Nope.  I routinely build cygwin with text mode mounts with no problems
at all.  I don't know why you were having problems but we're certainly
not going to document a bug.

cgf

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Re: note about recent cygwin snapshot

[Christopher Faylor]

On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 10:47:03AM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote:
>1.  On every process start the following message is printed: 
>
> 4 [main] ? 2988 shared_info::initialize: size of shared memory region 
>changed from 21008 to 47112

...which would indicate that you have two different versions of cygwin running
at the same time...

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RE: MS offers "Services For Unix" free of charge

[Robb, Sam]

> With carrier pigeon 1.0, the beak is so small you have to
> dis-assemble/re-assemble the IP packets.
> 
> Carrier pigeon 2.0 has a bigger beak and can hold a full packet.
> 
> Unfortunately the evolutionary process is goin slow.  Maybe within a
> couple of millenium.
> 
> Have you thought about using IP-over-turkey instead?  
> 
> It is slower and not very sexy, but with the bigger beak, you can get
> better bandwidth.
> 
> Greg

We've been using IP-over-pelican.  No problems with packet
size, excellent bandwidth, and it's eliminated my need for
a weekly trip to the local sushi bar.

-Samrobb

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Re: MS offers "Services For Unix" free of charge

[Greg Freemyer]

On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 20:35, Brian Dessent wrote:
> Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
> > >One thing that Cygwin does lack, and SFU has, is an NFS client :-/
> > >I know that alone will probably entice me into taking a look at
> > >SFU.
> > 
> > It would be rather interesting to add nfs to cygwin.  We could develop
> > filesystem "plug-ins" which could be generalized for stuff like NFS,
> > EXTFS, etc.
> > 
> > Didn't someone say they had a free month?  Perfect project.  :-)
> 
> Ooh, ooh!  Somebody port KDE's Kioslave feature to Cygwin.  Then I'll
> finally be able to mount as a drive letter that ISO9660 image on my
> remote Appletalk share that's tunneled through ssh through a http proxy
> on my IP-over-carrier pigeon link.
> 
> Brian
> 
With carrier pigeon 1.0, the beak is so small you have to
dis-assemble/re-assemble the IP packets.

Carrier pigeon 2.0 has a bigger beak and can hold a full packet.

Unfortunately the evolutionary process is goin slow.  Maybe within a
couple of millenium.

Have you thought about using IP-over-turkey instead?  

It is slower and not very sexy, but with the bigger beak, you can get
better bandwidth.

Greg




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RE: MS offers "Services For Unix" free of charge

[Chris Telting]

Buchbinder, Barry wrote:

Does this mean that that MS finds that Cygwin (and U/Win, MKS, et al.) is a
threat?  Or that they were not making much from SFU but cannot drop it for
various reasons, so are going for brownie points?
 

The motivation is probably so that they can realease other unix software 
and tools to entise people over to the dark side.  Tools both for SFU 
and Linux.  It gives them and partners a commercial developement 
platform to seriously target.  But mostly it's recognition of all the 
unix code that exists.  All comercial unix platforms are going down the 
drain due to Linux and Bsd so it's not inconcievable that Microsoft is 
extending an olive branch to them in hopes that will enbrace windows and 
port their commercial applications, first to SFU and then then to their 
windows API's.  If microsoft wanted they could go whole hog and create a 
complete formidable unix environment; something to supercede the dos 
environment..  Nothing in their kernel prevents it, though they could 
make it more efficient for such.

Microsoft is interested in the bottom line.  I don't see cygwin 
affecting them much at all.  Mozilla, Aphche, Open Office and all other 
threatening programs compile natively so cygwin has no impact except as 
a development environment.  They don't exactly make much money on their 
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RE: Cygwin/DBD::ODBC issue

[Jones, Tommie]

That seems to get me along further David. Thanks alot.
Now I am getting the following errors.
/usr/include/w32api/sqltypes.h:17: error: syntax error before "UDWORD"
/usr/include/w32api/sqltypes.h:18: error: syntax error before "UWORD"
/usr/include/w32api/sqltypes.h:24: error: syntax error before "PTR"

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Sent: Thu 1/15/2004 9:38 AM 
To: Jones, Tommie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
Subject: RE: Cygwin/DBD::ODBC issue


 

Re: MS offers "Services For Unix" free of charge

[Jan Nieuwenhuizen]

Harold L. Hunt, II writes:

> I don't know that I would call it "great work" since I think I am now
> in the running for the worst received joke of 2004 :)

Sorry, don't take it too hard; chances are I'll send another silly
reply to someone else before long :)

Jan.

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Re: Cannot load libphp4.dll into server: dlopen: Win32 error 998

[tosch]

Hallo Ralf,

thanks for your advice. I did as you suggested. Here
the permissions for libphp4.dll in comparison to
mod_mime.dll which was loaded successfully.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/lib/apache
# getfacl mod_mime.dll 
# file: mod_mime.dll
# owner: tos
# group: Benutzer
user::rwx
group::r-x
group:SYSTEM:rwx
group:Administratoren:rwx
mask:rwx
other:---

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/lib/apache
# setfacl -m
"u::rwx,u:Administratoren:rwx,u:SYSTEM:rwx,g::r-x,o::---"
"libphp4.dll"

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/lib/apache
# getfacl libphp4.dll 
# file: libphp4.dll
# owner: tos
# group: Benutzer
user::rwx
group::r-x
group:SYSTEM:rwx
group:Administratoren:rwx
mask:rwx
other:---

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/lib/apache
# ls -al mod_mime.dll libphp4.dll 
-rwxr-x---+   1 tos  Benutzer  1859072 14. Jan
17:01 libphp4.dll
-rwxr-x---+   1 tos  Benutzer12800 27. Apr
2002  mod_mime.dll

And here what DepWalker says:

LoadLibraryA("C:\cygwin\lib\apache\mod_setenvif.dll")
called from "c:\cygwin\bin\CYGWIN1.DLL" at address
0x6100722F.
Loaded "c:\cygwin\lib\apache\MOD_SETENVIF.DLL" at
address 0x0151.  Successfully hooked module.
DllMain(0x0151, DLL_PROCESS_ATTACH, 0x) in
"c:\cygwin\lib\apache\MOD_SETENVIF.DLL" called.
DllMain(0x0151, DLL_PROCESS_ATTACH, 0x) in
"c:\cygwin\lib\apache\MOD_SETENVIF.DLL" returned 1
(0x1).
LoadLibraryA("C:\cygwin\lib\apache\mod_setenvif.dll")
returned 0x0151.
GetProcAddress(0x0151
[c:\cygwin\lib\apache\MOD_SETENVIF.DLL],
"setenvif_module") called from
"c:\cygwin\bin\CYGWIN1.DLL" at address 0x6100732B and
returned 0x01512000.
LoadLibraryA("C:\cygwin\lib\apache\libphp4.dll")
called from "c:\cygwin\bin\CYGWIN1.DLL" at address
0x6100722F.
Unloaded "Unknown" at address 0x0153.
LoadLibraryA("C:\cygwin\lib\apache\libphp4.dll")
returned NULL. Error: Unzulssiger Zugriff auf einen
Speicherbereich (998).


How shall i interpret the "inadmissible access on
memoryarea (998)". It seems that not the
filepermissions are meant.

Perhaps after all a rebase is neccesary ?

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Re: MS offers "Services For Unix" free of charge

[Harold L Hunt II]

Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:

Harold L. Hunt, II writes:


Well, I don't know about the rest of you, but since SFU comes with a
great (and free) X Server, I am throwing in the towel.


Thanks for your great work!
Jan.
Jan,

I don't know that I would call it "great work" since I think I am now in 
the running for the worst received joke of 2004 :)

Harold

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Re: playing ogg files in cygwin

[Bob Clark]

Ralf Habacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Just a little note. I've tried yesterday ogg123 from the vorbis-tools
>1.0rc3 
>with recent cygwin snapshot. It works without any problems using oss. 

That sounds great. I'll give it a try when I get a chance (I'm a teacher
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Permissions get lost when moving files between drives.

[Ronald Fischer]

I'm using cygwin bash on a Windows 2000 machine. When I perform the following steps
(c: is the local drive, h: is a network drive, which is also my $HOME):

cd c:/
echo xxx >h:/tmp/x
mv h:/tmp/x y

then a

  ls -l

shows that c:/y has the permissions set to 000, though h:/tmp/x has them correct as 
644.

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Re: A month worth of developers time available for cygwin.

[Ronald Landheer-Cieslak]

I've gotten my local Cygwin installation up to speed for this (openjade et
al.) but I'll probably be working on my Gentoo box at home (seeing as I only
have one Windows at my disposal at home, which does have Cygwin but which
I hardly ever use, I'll do as much as possible on my normal development box..)

I'll try to get things working so I can run `make' properly and will report
back when I've either gotten things going or have run into some really 
blocking problem..

rlc

On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 10:22:10PM -0600, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 03:46:12PM +0100, Ronald Landheer-Cieslak wrote:
> > I'd be happy to help out with the documentation. As for the documentation
> > build system: what do I need?
> 
> As far as the Cygwin distribution goes, you need to have all the
> normal build tools (gcc,make,etc) and a couple you might not--
> libxml2 and rpm. Before the letters "R" "P" "M" scare people, let
> me digress. Up until now the Cygwin documentation has been built
> either on Linux or with custom Cygwin packages. (Note to you and
> to future list readers, this hopefully will change very soon--maybe 
> as soon as we get Nicholas' openjade patches and can get it and the
> various DTD and stylesheets in the distribution.)
> 
> The problem with installing custom packages is that you can get them
> confused with real ones and create a dependency mess as you attempt
> to move from custom to official packages. Right now on Cygwin all we
> have is custom packages for SGML docbook (which is what the Users' Guide 
> and API Reference are written in). Nicholas mentioned that he'd been
> using Red Hat's SRPMs, so I thought I'd try that for the transitional
> phase. Just to be clear here, RPM is not becoming an official Cygwin
> installation method, and most RPMs you find on the Web will *NOT* work
> in Cygwin.
> 
> That said, I've put up my hacked-together RPMs at:
> 
> 
> 
> Note that RPM has many features such as dependency management that I've
> deliberately ripped out of these, so don't get too excited. 
> Note also that there is an openjade-1.3.1-1.tar.bz2 there. This was 
> packaged about two years ago before there was trouble building openjade, 
> so it's quite old, but works for our purposes:
> 
> --snip---
> # 1. Get the files
> cd /tmp 
> wget -m -np -nH --cut-dirs=3 http://ns1.iocc.com/~joshua/cygwin/RPMS/
> 
> # 2. Never do this again--it's a very bad idea
> cd /
> tar jxvf /tmp/openjade-1.3-1.1.tar.bz2
> 
> # 3. Install the hacked-together "dependencies" rpms
> rpm -Uhv /tmp/*rpm
> 
> # 4. Install the actual docbook packages
> rpm -Uhv /tmp/docbook/*rpm
> 
> # 5. Remove everything you've installed with rpm with one easy step
> #onces we've got Cygwin packages together--no mess!
> rpm -e $(rpm -qa)
> --snip---
> 
> Once you've got that, all you should need to do it type "make" in the
> winsup/doc folder of your Cygwin build tree. There are a couple of other
> things you might want to do:
> 
> -comment out (with -- before and after) the "DTDDECL" statement in 
> /usr/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl-stylesheets/catalog
> This version of jade just hates the DTDDECL and complains loudly. 
> 
> -Change /usr/bin/db2html's shebang to "#!/bin/bash" since it uses 
> bash-specific artithmetic syntax.
> 
> -Remove the cygwin-ug/cygwin-ug.html and cygwin-api-int/cygwin-api-int.html 
> build targets from winsup/doc/Makefile.in or just wait a week--see
> 
> 
> Hope this helps you get going, and let me know if you have any other
> questions. You're welcome to work on most anything, though I think having an
> improved API reference including real compilable examples would be great. The
> API is documented in SGML files in winsup/cygwin/ and a few source files
> (pinfo.cc). Grep for "funcsynopsis". Anyone else chime in with other todos?
> 
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Re: Cannot load libphp4.dll into server: dlopen: Win32 error 998

[Ralf Habacker]

On Wednesday 14 January 2004 18:19, tosch wrote:
> Cannot load /usr/lib/apache/libphp4.dll into server:
> dlopen: Win32 error 998

BTW: This error means that some dll's could not be accessed, my be because the 
executable bit isn't set. The dependency walker will show you, which dll is 
affected. 

grep "998" /usr/include/w32api/winerror.h
#define ERROR_NOACCESS 998L

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Re: Cannot load libphp4.dll into server: dlopen: Win32 error 998

[Ralf Habacker]

On Wednesday 14 January 2004 18:19, tosch wrote:
> Hi,
> while trying to install a PHP-Wiki on cygwin i got
> several (i think quit all) problems with mod_php which
> were described in the thread More Apache/PHP
> installation puzzles.
>
> I finally reached this point:
>
> # /usr/sbin/apachectl start
> Syntax error on line 236 of /etc/apache/httpd.conf:
> Cannot load /usr/lib/apache/libphp4.dll into server:
> dlopen: Win32 error 998
> /usr/sbin/apachectl start: httpd could not be started
>
>
> libphp4.dll was set (setfacl) to exactly the same
> permissions as f.i. mod_cgi.dll
> i did NO rebase as suggested by Igor
> Meanwhile there is probably newer knowledge. My Latin
> is at it's end.

You may download and install the dependency walker 
http://www.dependencywalker.com/ and open it from a bash shell with 

depends `cygpath -aw /usr/sbin/httpd.exe`

Then try to profile this application with F7. Please activate at least the 
following options: 

- Log Dllmain calls for process attach ... 
- Hook the process ... 
- Use full path when logging
- Automatic open profile child processes. 

and start the profiler. In the lower box you will see the log messages. If 
there are any problems, then it will be printed in red or bold. 

hope that helps 

Cheers
 
Ralf 




> Could anybody help please.
>
> Thanks in advance, tos
>
>
>
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Filenames with spaces: very rare in Cygwin

[fergus]

In the entire Cygwin provision there are only 3 filenames containing spaces,
all under /usr/ssl/man. Up until recently, I think there was only one, being
/usr/local/ssl/man/man7/Modes\ of\ DES.7. The other two are under
/usr/local/ssl/man/man3/.
Nothing is broken, but this occurrence (just 3 in ~70,000) is possibly
sufficiently rare to maybe merit attention and amendment? To, dunno,
Modes_of_DES.7 and similar?
This might break things, in which case obviously leave as is. Sorry for
mentioning it. In any case, I ask for purely selfish reasons: the spaces
screw up an otherwise rather neat script for fiddling about with +R and +S
files when achieving a portable version of Cygwin on CD.
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VIM fails with SEGV after vi under telnet session

[Ashok Vadekar]

I seem to have the following repeatable problem since upgrading to 1.5.x
from 1.3.x:
open bash shell (in Windows command prompt DOS box, not rxvt)
vi foo (works fine)
:q
telnet remote machine (in my case a solaris 8 box)
exit
vi foo (works fine)
:q
telnet remote machine (in my case a solaris 8 box)
run /usr/bin/vi (or vim)
:q
exit
vi foo (fails with output:
[25;1HVim: Caught deadly signal SEGV
Vim: Finished.

and then leaves the shell in a state where it does not use \r, only \n such
thathitting enter at the prompt causes a staircase of output as the command
prompt continues to skew to the right.

Either 
stty sane
or
tset
will fix the staircsae, but running vi again puts me back in that state.
Running vi in strace or gdb from this point does not cause the SEGV.
Opening a new shell gives me a clean environment with which to use vi,
until I telnet and run a remote vi session.

So what terminal setting is the remote vi/vim adjusting that causes the local
vi to get confused?  I probably have an old 1.3.x terminfo entry on the remote
box, which might explain a remote vi session that didn't work well, but this
does not seem to me to be a good reason for a SEGV.


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RE: Problem compiling cygwin1.dll from CVS

[Gabriel SOUBIES]

I finally managed to re-build Cygwin, and your hint helped me a lot!
The problem was that i was downloading the sources using Cygwin's CVS on a
machine where Cygwin had been installed in NT mode (not by me).
Then I burned the sources and tried to compile on my machine, where Cygwin
is installed in Unix mode.
I had Cygwin reinstalled in Unix mode on the machine I used for downloading
and that solved everything.
Maybe a note about this problem could be added to the FAQ page named "How do
I rebuild the tools on my NT box?" ...

Gabriel Soubies

-Message d'origine-
De : Nuno Ferreira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : mercredi 14 janvier 2004 20:46
À : Gabriel SOUBIES
Cc : Cygwin mailing list
Objet : RE: Problem compiling cygwin1.dll from CVS


On Ter, 2004-01-13 at 15:41, Gabriel SOUBIES wrote:
> Thanks for your reply.
> I moved everything under a directory /CompilCygwin that I just created.
> Unfortunately, it didn't change anything, i get the same error...

Hi,
I had the original problem and solved it but forgot to share it with the
list.
My problem was caused because I used wincvs to checkout the cygwin
sources because I had some problem (don't remeber what) with cygwin's
cvs. Because wincvs is running on NT it performs the LF -> CR/LF on text
files and the file ends up with the extra ^M.
Checking out the sources under cygwin solved the problem.

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RE: CVS b0rked?

[Dave Korn]

> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Ford 
> Sent: 14 January 2004 20:17
> To: Dave Korn
> 
> >
> No.  It was a known issue.
> 
> CGF appears to have fixed it now.  Do an update, and possibly 
> a clean build (I seemed to need that, but I don't know why).

Ah, thanks for clearing that up.  I just updated and now it's much
healthier:

---snip---
Running /usr/build/src/winsup/testsuite/winsup.api/winsup.exp ...
FAIL: msgtest.c (execute)
FAIL: semtest.c (execute)
FAIL: shmtest.c (execute)
NOTE: error deleting ltp-alarm03.exe: error deleting "ltp-alarm03.exe":
permissi
on denied
NOTE: error deleting ltp-kill02.exe: error deleting "ltp-kill02.exe":
permission
 denied
NOTE: error deleting ltp-kill09.exe: error deleting "ltp-kill09.exe":
permission
 denied
NOTE: error deleting ltp-pipe10.exe: error deleting "ltp-pipe10.exe":
permission
 denied
FAIL: pthread/cancel11.c (execute)

=== winsup Summary ===

# of expected passes259
# of unexpected failures4
# of expected failures  14
---snip---


   cheers,
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RE: Python 2.3 Cygwin and SIP and PyQT

[Hardy Jonck]

Hi All,

I am still on my sip compile spree, and need some help with the following
when running 'make':

siplib.o(.text+0x3b8e):siplib.c: undefined reference to `_PyInt_FromLong'
siplib.o(.text+0x3be5):siplib.c: undefined reference to `_PyInt_AsLong'
Info: resolving _qApp by linking to __imp__qApp (auto-import)
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [/usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packages/cygsip-10.dll] Error 1





Can someone please point me in the right direction as to what I might be
missing. 

Sincerely
Hardy Jonck


-Original Message-
From: Jason Tishler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 January 2004 21:17
To: Hardy Jonck
Cc: Cygwin
Subject: Re: Python 2.3 Cygwin and SIP and PyQT


Hardy,

Please post instead of sending private email.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 07:36:18AM +0200, Hardy Jonck wrote:
> Thanks a million for the python 2.3 cygwin package. 

You are quite welcome.

> I just downloaded SIP 3.7 from riverbank for X11 and can not get it to
> compile on cygwin. I have installed the QT for Cygwin from the KDE
> cygwin site. Have you had success in compiling SIP for cygwin and also
> PyQT?

I have never tried.

Jason

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Re: sshd on alternate port doesn't seem to work

[Thorsten Kampe]

* Mark Himsley (2004-01-15 00:53 +0100)
> On 15 January 2004 00:05 +0100 Thorsten Kampe wrote:
>> * Mooky Mooksgill (2004-01-14 20:07 +0100)
>>> i add the Port  to the ssh_config file, sshd restarts, but refuses
>>> connections.
>>
>> Yes, of course: man ssh_config - the first sentence.
> 
> Try sshd_config since it is, after all, the daemon that you want to 
> configure rather than the client.

Thank you so much. Now that this mystery is solved, could you explain
me and MM the meaning of a "follow-up"?!

Thorsten


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Re: g++ command, missing packages?

[Gerrit P. Haase]

Angelika wrote:

> I´m just writing to tell you that I think you were right. I think I had
> downloaded everything but not installed it all correctly. It´s working
> now! 

Fine.

> However, the next problem seems to be to get make to work properly...

This should be discussed in a new thread.


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Re: g++ command, missing packages?

[Angelika Olsson]

I´m just writing to tell you that I think you were right. I think I had
downloaded everything but not installed it all correctly. It´s working
now! 

However, the next problem seems to be to get make to work properly...

Thank you,
Angelika


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note about recent cygwin snapshot

[Ralf Habacker]

Hi all, 

yesterday I have downloaded a recent cygwin snapshot and tried with the coming 
kde-cygwin 3.1.4. In the past I recognized, that running kde on cygwin is a 
good stress test for the cygwin dll. 

Please note that I'm still using cygipc for shared memory support, so I cannot 
say anything to this stuff. 

After running the kde-cygwin desktop and several application several hours, I 
recognized only two issues: 

1.  On every process start the following message is printed: 

 4 [main] ? 2988 shared_info::initialize: size of shared memory region 
changed from 21008 to 47112

2. On Windows XP I recognized sometime a curious behavior with 100% cpu eating 
processes after killing the xserver with the close icon or closing an 
internet modem connection. 
(For the bacis: With cygwin 1.5.5 this problem results in three cygwin based 
processes, hanging and eating all the cpu power, which leaves an unusable 
system) With this snapshot, this burden seems to be a little eased in such a 
manner, that there are only two proccess hanging in ntdll.dll,  but the 
system is usable, so that this processes could be killed with the 
task-manager. Looking at such a process with procexp shows me, that the 
problem must be in the application closing, because procexp shows only about 
20% of the initial used dll's, the others seems to be already closed. 
May be there is a problem with closing sockets or something else, because I'm 
wondering why the processes are hanging immediatly after closing the modem 
connection. For the next kde-cygwin release I have found a workaround, so 
this problem isn't very annoying, but by the time I'm going to analyse this 
problem a little bit more and will report if I have more infos. 

BTW: Thanks for all efforts. Great work. Especially fixing the threading stuff 
enables me to bundle the ogg123 player with kde-cygwin. 

Cheers 
Ralf 
 






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Re: playing ogg files in cygwin

[Ralf Habacker]

On Tuesday 13 January 2004 23:58, Ralf Habacker wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 January 2004 19:51, Bob Clark wrote:
> > Sven Köhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >i also think, that cygwin doesn't have any OSS emulation, does it?
>
> it have using /dev/dsp.  For the kde-3.1.4 cygwin port I've tried to build
> ogg123 and it does have problems with playing sounds using /dev/dsp.
> ogg123 uses threads for buffering and playing sounds and it seems to me
> that there are the problems. I had not enough time to find the problem,  so
> I stopped this port yet.

Just a little note. I've tried yesterday ogg123 from the vorbis-tools 1.0rc3 
with recent cygwin snapshot. It works without any problems using oss. 

Ralf 






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Re: A month worth of developers time available for cygwin.

[Ronald Landheer-Cieslak]

I don't have commit access, but I will have the time in four weeks :)
If you've been dutifully archiving the patches, I'll be happy to examine 
them.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if people have in deed been waiting for you
to patch the generic build script: AFAIKnew, it's your script, right?

:)

rlc

On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 01:28:02AM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote:
> Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> >Note that there are a couple of patches to the generic build script
> >floating around in the cygwin-apps archives.  Also, it might pay to look
> >at the sources of a bunch of Cygwin packages that use the generic build
> >script, and compare/extract the good bits/parameterize the differences.
> >I'm sure people (read: package maintainers) will appreciate a new release
> >of the generic build script, and it will also make it easier to eventually
> >switch to an RPM/dpkg-like model.
> 
> Request: can somebody else with commit access please look into this (I 
> have a hunch that folks are waiting for _me_ to do this...)  I've been 
> dutifully archiving the various posted patches but I just can't find any 
> extra time to sift out the wheat from the chaff.  Job/Personal/RealLife 
> is intruding heavily just now...
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NFS client for Windows NT

[Federico Bianchi]

In fact - a Windows NT IFS (and it has to run under at least three
different releases, which are subtly different one another when it comes
to FSD). This is why I feel making a true NFS client much harder than it
actually needs to be. I had been tinkering with FIFS for some time, but
making it really usable is certainly not a one man month project.

For those who don't know it, FIFS was a _really_ interesting project by
Danilo Almeida, simulating an SMB/CIFS redirector on the local machine; it
lets file system components be written in user land (and it runs itself in
user mode, too, which makes it somewhat slower than, say, ProxyDK but much
easier to deal with). It mostly worked under NT 4.0, but was never
completed and has some ugly quirks when used on more current systems. One
of the samples was a NFS client, BTW...

Best regards to you all

Federico Bianchi

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Chris January wrote:

> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 04:26:03PM -0500, Robb, Sam wrote:
> > >> But beyond curiosity, there's not many reasons to install and
> > >> use both, at least concurrently.  Cygwin and SFU both address
> > >> the same needs and Cygwin covers a wider range of tools.  We'll
> > >> see what happens though.
> > >
> > >One thing that Cygwin does lack, and SFU has, is an NFS client :-/
> > >I know that alone will probably entice me into taking a look at
> > >SFU.
> >
> > It would be rather interesting to add nfs to cygwin.  We could develop
> > filesystem "plug-ins" which could be generalized for stuff like NFS,
> > EXTFS, etc.
> >
> > Didn't someone say they had a free month?  Perfect project.  :-)
>
> Isn't the SFU NFS client an installable file system, i.e. you can use it
> anywhere in Windows, not just with the SFU stuff?
>
> Chris

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Re: MS offers "Services For Unix" free of charge

[Jan Nieuwenhuizen]

Harold L. Hunt, II writes:

> Well, I don't know about the rest of you, but since SFU comes with a
> great (and free) X Server, I am throwing in the towel.

Thanks for your great work!
Jan.

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