Re: RFC: add a dummy configure to the packaging templates
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: Igor == Igor Pechtchanski writes: Igor A couple of reasons. First, lndir is not always available, and I'd hate Igor to make developers install the whole XFree86-bin package just to build, Igor say, wtf. Secondly, lndir doesn't have the same invocation semantics as Igor configure, so we'd have to change the generic-build-script yet again to Igor accomodate it. I'd rather include a dummy configure that does the right Igor thing (i.e., populates the build directory with enough files to be able Igor to build the package there). If it makes you feel better, we could put in Igor some code to detect whether lndir is available and if it is, use it under Igor the covers. That would be great. Ciao Volker Umm, what would be great? Adding the script, or having it use lndir under the covers? Thanks for the vote, in any case. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route to the bathroom is a major career booster. -- Patrick Naughton
Status on coreutils? (was: Re: ITP moratorium still in effect?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Igor Pechtchanski wrote: | The latest on coreutils is that it's still not ready to go mainstream | (http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-03/msg00150.html). What is the current status on this? I still have it in my ITP queue and my Bugzilla is starting to whine about it, but if there's another ITP that is ready to go mainstream, I'll be happy to kick it out of my queue and be done with it ;) If there's no progress, I'll use the little time I have a Windows computer next to me on my desk to work on coreutils rather than example programs for Cygwin-docs (should have a Windows box this afternoon). rlc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAbDeOU1nODpimgXsRAsTWAKCsNCUEo5QnLBO3fYY/sc0KSo7siwCgofV0 EVl4J/U/lw+D54+BbK6Wy7w= =7vzt -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: On forming a SC [was Re: ITP moratorium still in effect?]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christopher Faylor wrote: | On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 04:02:55PM -0500, Nicholas Wourms wrote: | |cgf wrote: | | |I'd like to explore new methods for getting packages into the |distribution, however. | |Possibly we need a gdb packages steering committee which decides on |these things. It could have rules like a package needs a simple |majority vote to be a candidate for inclusion. I'd envision seven |people on the committee. I have names in mind but the only two |definites are really Corinna and me, both of whom would also have veto |power. | |I'd also like to see a formal justification for why a package should be |included, remembering that we have a software web page at cygwin.com |which can be used to advertise packages that aren't quite up to snuff |for the cygwin release. I think we have accepted a couple of packages here |which really only deserve to be advertised on the web site. | |I'd really like to object to this SC idea, as most of us *have* |exercised restraint while a select few have not. Why should the |responsible maintainers be punished for someone's binge ITP'ing? I |think we should keep it the way it is, perhaps with a little more of you |laying the smack-down on anyone who is abusing it. I would respect a |veto from you, Corinna, or Chuck, but the voting should still be left to |the existing maintainers. After seeing what a steering committee has |done to gcc, I'd be very hesitant to subject Cygwin to one. | | | I guess we have differing views on how the steering committee affected | gcc but this is really very different from the gcc (or gdb) steering | committee. In general, I think they do a good job. | | However, just because I used a similar term to describe this doesn't | mean that it will be exactly like gcc's steering committee. | | I'm coming to feel that their should be a higher bar for package entry | into the release and don't think that any old package maintainer should | get an equal vote in the process. Why not make the vote proportional to the number of packages the maintainer maintains? I agree any ol' maintainer should not have as many votes as, say, you, but an SC might make things a bit too massive.. |Here's one idea to limit the binge ITP's: |No more than 1 ITP per month unless approved by either you or Corinna. | I can't speak for Corinna, but I would rather *not* have to be the bad | guy or a single (double?) point of contact. I would rather have more | community involvement. I'm already drowning in being the focal point | for most cygwin bugs with help from only two other developers. I don't | want to invent new things for me or Corinna to do, especially when there | is no requirement for in-depth cygwin knowledge. In that case, why not make the SC, but just five the SC members veto right whereas all package maintainers would still have the right to vote? In that case, you and Corinna would be permanent members of the SC and the package maintainers could nominate the five other members (two nominees per maintainer). The five members that get the most nominations become the members. If there's a tie, we vote. | Setting up a council or committee to approve or disprove apps means | that the load is shared and there theoretically a consistent way for | packages to be included. Yes, but it also takes away community involvement, concentrating it on a few elected members. long-winded_idea Let me elaborate my idea a bit: the SC would consist of seven members, all package maintainers and/or cygwin (or cygwin-setup) developers. Two members - cgf and Corinna - have a permanent seat on the SC. The other five members have a six-month (or perhaps 12-month) term renewable ad infinitum. All package maintainers get to vote on ITPs. The number of votes they carry is equal to the number of packages they maintain. Package admission requires at least 50% of the total votes (i.e. if there are 100 packages in the distro, 50 votes are required for a new packages to be admitted, but those 50 votes could come from only three people). To avoid one person getting a decisive positive vote, the 50% of votes must come from at least three different package maintainers. The SC members all get a veto right and may prioritize certain packages - - i.e. they may emit an ITP request (this would be a nice addition to the Cygwin distro - maintainer wanted). People that are not in the SC don't have the right to emit ITP requests. An ITP that is a response to an ITP request is exempt of voting. This gives the SC members positive power as well as the negative (veto) power they already have. It is up to the SC members to discuss ITP requests amongst themselves (on a dedicated cygwin-sc list, perhaps?) The SC members will also have the power to ban a package from the distro when it is already in the distro - either because the maintainer is MIA, the package has no real business being in the distro, or any other reason that is justifiable. Again, this
Re: Status on coreutils? (was: Re: ITP moratorium still in effect?)
On Apr 1 10:39, Ronald Landheer-Cieslak wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Igor Pechtchanski wrote: | The latest on coreutils is that it's still not ready to go mainstream | (http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-03/msg00150.html). What is the current status on this? I still have it in my ITP queue and my Bugzilla is starting to whine about it, but if there's another ITP that is ready to go mainstream, I'll be happy to kick it out of my queue and be done with it ;) If there's no progress, I'll use the little time I have a Windows computer next to me on my desk to work on coreutils rather than example programs for Cygwin-docs (should have a Windows box this afternoon). Ask Mark what's the problem. He was already as far as removing su, kill and uptime from the binary package but then... Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Red Hat, Inc.
Re: Status on coreutils?
Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Apr 1 10:39, Ronald Landheer-Cieslak wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Igor Pechtchanski wrote: | The latest on coreutils is that it's still not ready to go mainstream | (http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-03/msg00150.html). What is the current status on this? I still have it in my ITP queue and my Bugzilla is starting to whine about it, but if there's another ITP that is ready to go mainstream, I'll be happy to kick it out of my queue and be done with it ;) If there's no progress, I'll use the little time I have a Windows computer next to me on my desk to work on coreutils rather than example programs for Cygwin-docs (should have a Windows box this afternoon). Ask Mark what's the problem. He was already as far as removing su, kill and uptime from the binary package but then... Corinna I was trying to get make check to finish completely but it looks like it will take more time than it's worth. One problem it has is with the present version of cygwin (1.5.9) recursive commands don't work (ie chgrp -R). That problem was fixed in CVS but I was hoping that a version of cygwin would become available which fixes that problem. If I released coreutils now we would end up with a lot of (former) fileutils commands which would fail when doing recursion and a lot of unhappy people on the mailing list. Mark Blackburn. -- If it's not POSIX... it's CRAP!
Re: Status on coreutils?
On Apr 1 15:18, Mark Blackburn wrote: Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Apr 1 10:39, Ronald Landheer-Cieslak wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Igor Pechtchanski wrote: | The latest on coreutils is that it's still not ready to go mainstream | (http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-03/msg00150.html). What is the current status on this? I still have it in my ITP queue and my Bugzilla is starting to whine about it, but if there's another ITP that is ready to go mainstream, I'll be happy to kick it out of my queue and be done with it ;) If there's no progress, I'll use the little time I have a Windows computer next to me on my desk to work on coreutils rather than example programs for Cygwin-docs (should have a Windows box this afternoon). Ask Mark what's the problem. He was already as far as removing su, kill and uptime from the binary package but then... Corinna I was trying to get make check to finish completely but it looks like it will take more time than it's worth. One problem it has is with the present version of cygwin (1.5.9) recursive commands don't work (ie chgrp -R). That Huh? What should be the reason for this? The recursive commands from fileutils are runnning fine under 1.5.9. And I have a local build of coreutils which also doesn't have problems under 1.5.9. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Red Hat, Inc.
Re: Updated: XFree86-xserv-4.3.0-66
1) winclipboardxevents.c/winClipboardFlushXEvents/SelectionRequest - Change the 'format' value for the first call to XChangeProperty from 8 to 32 since we are passing a data array of Atoms, which are 32 bits long. (Lev Bishop) TARGETS still doesn't work right. Now, a request for TARGETS puts the following in XWin.log (once for each request): winMultiWindowXMsgProcErrorHandler - ERROR: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) I can't find the above change in the CVS (is it there?) but perhaps you need to change from sizeof(atomTargetArr) to sizeof(atomTargetArr)/sizeof(Atom) ?? Sorry I can't compile my own versions to test these things but I don't even have room on my HD for the X sources... Lev
Re: numlock
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, J S wrote: Why is it that I need to turn off the numlock key on Xfree to get the keys to work properly? Is this a feature or a bug? X11 Design feature bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
X Error of failed request BadMatch (invalid parameter
Hi I have problem with running application on machine : Sun-Solaris with Unix using Cygwin/X on machine with Windows XP I connect with Solaris after command : xwin -querry host ip. I add even -fp tcp/host ip:7100 ,but it seems it isn't a problem, because I can run all other Unix programs even without that. Normally when I start this secret program on machine Sun-Solaris there aren't any problems. Only with this special program I have problem using Cygwin/X. In Unix Terminal I become a communique : __ X Error of failed request BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) Major opcode of failed request: 11775 Current serial number in output stream: 12102 ___ What can be the problem with? Can you help me? Thanks for all helps. Greetings. Kamil
Re: numlock
Why is it that I need to turn off the numlock key on Xfree to get the keys to work properly? Is this a feature or a bug? X11 Design feature bye ago Ah, not the answer I was expecting! Are you pulling my leg or was that a serious answer?! JS. _ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
Re: numlock
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, J S wrote: Ah, not the answer I was expecting! Are you pulling my leg or was that a serious answer?! This is a serious answer. Numlock is treated as modifier key just like caps lock or control. pressing a key while numlock is on is just like pressing ctrl + key. bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: numlock
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Alexander Gottwald wrote: On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, J S wrote: Ah, not the answer I was expecting! Are you pulling my leg or was that a serious answer?! This is a serious answer. Numlock is treated as modifier key just like caps lock or control. pressing a key while numlock is on is just like pressing ctrl + key. Perhaps he was wondering why NumLock is turned on initially. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
How to set other languages in Emacs mule?
Hi, I am trying to read and type Korean chracters in emacs, and could anyone tell me how? It's for a Korean Parser, and the input sentences are, of course, Korean. I'd like to read and type Korean characters in XWin shell, and in emacs too. Please help. Thank you in advance. David
License for x-startup-scripts
I'm looking for the statment of license for the x-startup-scripts package. The COPYING file in the binary tarball and in the source tarball is just one byte long. This is true for the version released on 25 March. Thanks, Dick - Dick Repasky Bioinformatics Support UITS Cubicle 101.08 Indiana University USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Souldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
Dave Korn wrote: -Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of David I got mails from both two groups:cygwin, and cygXwin. Well, that's because you're on two completely different mailing lists. It's sometimes confusing. You're very easily confused then. Why don't you set up your mailer to sort them into different folders? Don't we need to seperate one from the other by putting a head into Subject, for example, [cygwin] vs. [cygXwin]? What on earth is the use of putting a tag in the subject line when it only pointlessly duplicates information that is already in the From/To lines: From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of . Unfortunately, cygwin-xfree is congured in such a way that the FROM is the Original Poster, it's the REPLYTO that is cygwin. That makes it rather awkward to setup filter rules based on the FROM! The vast majority of mailing lists on RH and SF use a [listname] prefix. and when there's presumably many people who are only on one list. You could always just learn how to set up mail-sorting rules in your email program, rather than expect everyone else to suddenly start doing things your way just to save you the five minutes of effort it would take you to sort your own problem out. cheers, DaveK -- Michel Bardiaux Peaktime Belgium S.A. Bd. du Souverain, 191 B-1160 Bruxelles Tel : +32 2 790.29.41
Re: License for X-startup-scripts package
Dick, startx and xinitrc come from the X Window System Sample Implementation tree that follows the rule of including a license at the top of each file; these two files did not have a license in that tree, so they do not have a license in this package. startxwin.bat, startxwin.sh, and startxdmcp.bat originate from this project and have similarly never had a license. The run utility was written by Charles S. Wilson, and is licensed under the GNU General Public License as you can see from downloading the source package and looking at the top of /usr/src/x-startup-scripts-1.0.6/run/run.c. Hope that helps, Harold
Cygwin/X11 forwarding ques.
I think I know the answer to this already, but thought I'd check to make sure. (I googled first, but didn't find anything.) I know how to use X11 forwarding with Cygwin so that I can have GUI apps from my Linux box run remotely on my Windows box. Is is possible, though, to do the opposite: i.e., use X11 forwarding to have GUI apps from my Windows box run remotely on my Windows box? I'm assuming the answer is no, since Windows apps aren't X Windows apps, but thought I'd check just in case. I actually tried this as an experiment: started up Cygwin's sshd on the win box and did an ssh -X into it. I was able to ssh in - and even launch an app (notepad). Problem was, of course, that notepad opened on the Windows box, and not remotely on the Linux box. Anyway, if there's any way to do something like this, please let me know. Thanks, DR P.S. Yes, I already know about VNC and the like. But I want to run individual Windows apps remotely, not the whole desktop. == This message is for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you received this message in error please delete it and notify us. If this message was misdirected, CSFB does not waive any confidentiality or privilege. CSFB retains and monitors electronic communications sent through its network. Instructions transmitted over this system are not binding on CSFB until they are confirmed by us. Message transmission is not guaranteed to be secure. ==
Re: Cygwin/X11 forwarding ques.
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Rosenstrauch, David wrote: Is is possible, though, to do the opposite: i.e., use X11 forwarding to have GUI apps from my Windows box run remotely on my Windows box? No. This is not possible with X11 Forwarding. bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: Souldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Michel Bardiaux wrote: Dave Korn wrote: -Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of David I got mails from both two groups:cygwin, and cygXwin. Well, that's because you're on two completely different mailing lists. It's sometimes confusing. You're very easily confused then. Why don't you set up your mailer to sort them into different folders? Don't we need to seperate one from the other by putting a head into Subject, for example, [cygwin] vs. [cygXwin]? What on earth is the use of putting a tag in the subject line when it only pointlessly duplicates information that is already in the From/To lines: From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of . Unfortunately, cygwin-xfree is congured in such a way that the FROM is the Original Poster, it's the REPLYTO that is cygwin. That makes it rather awkward to setup filter rules based on the FROM! Michel, Here are some of the available headers from your message: Mailing-List: contact cygwin-xfree-help at cygwin dot com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: mailto:cygwin-xfree-subscribe at cygwin dot com List-Archive: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ List-Post: mailto:cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com List-Help: mailto:cygwin-xfree-help at cygwin dot com, http://sources dot redhat dot com/ml/#faqs Sender: cygwin-xfree-owner at cygwin dot com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com Take your pick. :-) Igor P.S. These are from the web version, so some may not be available... The vast majority of mailing lists on RH and SF use a [listname] prefix. and when there's presumably many people who are only on one list. You could always just learn how to set up mail-sorting rules in your email program, rather than expect everyone else to suddenly start doing things your way just to save you the five minutes of effort it would take you to sort your own problem out. cheers, DaveK -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route to the bathroom is a major career booster. -- Patrick Naughton
RE: Cygwin/X11 forwarding ques.
-Original Message- From: Alexander Gottwald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cygwin/X11 forwarding ques. On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Rosenstrauch, David wrote: Is is possible, though, to do the opposite: i.e., use X11 forwarding to have GUI apps from my Windows box run remotely on my Windows box? No. This is not possible with X11 Forwarding. bye ago Thanks for the response. Your answer probably still stands, but I just wanted to point out a typo of mine, just in case it threw anyone off. That should have read: Is is possible, though, to do the opposite: i.e., use X11 forwarding to have GUI apps from my Windows box run remotely on my *LINUX* box? Thanks, DR == This message is for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you received this message in error please delete it and notify us. If this message was misdirected, CSFB does not waive any confidentiality or privilege. CSFB retains and monitors electronic communications sent through its network. Instructions transmitted over this system are not binding on CSFB until they are confirmed by us. Message transmission is not guaranteed to be secure. ==
Re: Cygwin/X11 forwarding ques.
Rosenstrauch, David wrote: -Original Message- From: Alexander Gottwald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cygwin/X11 forwarding ques. On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Rosenstrauch, David wrote: Is is possible, though, to do the opposite: i.e., use X11 forwarding to have GUI apps from my Windows box run remotely on my Windows box? No. This is not possible with X11 Forwarding. bye ago Thanks for the response. Your answer probably still stands, but I just wanted to point out a typo of mine, just in case it threw anyone off. That should have read: Is is possible, though, to do the opposite: i.e., use X11 forwarding to have GUI apps from my Windows box run remotely on my *LINUX* box? No, but you can use either VNC or RDP (Remote Desktop Protocol) to accomplish this. VNC will work on pretty much any version of Windows, while RDP would require Windows XP Professional or Windows Server 2003 (set to remote admin mode, which allows a max of two remote sessions at a time). There are VNC and RDP clients for X systems, including those running Linux. Hope that helps, Harold
RE: Cygwin/X11 forwarding ques.
-Original Message- From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cygwin/X11 forwarding ques. No, but you can use either VNC or RDP (Remote Desktop Protocol) to accomplish this. Thanks for the response, but ... from my original post: P.S. Yes, I already know about VNC and the like. But I want to run individual Windows apps remotely, not the whole desktop. Thanks, DR == This message is for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you received this message in error please delete it and notify us. If this message was misdirected, CSFB does not waive any confidentiality or privilege. CSFB retains and monitors electronic communications sent through its network. Instructions transmitted over this system are not binding on CSFB until they are confirmed by us. Message transmission is not guaranteed to be secure. ==
Re: Cygwin/X11 forwarding ques.
Rosenstrauch, David wrote: -Original Message- From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cygwin/X11 forwarding ques. No, but you can use either VNC or RDP (Remote Desktop Protocol) to accomplish this. Thanks for the response, but ... from my original post: P.S. Yes, I already know about VNC and the like. But I want to run individual Windows apps remotely, not the whole desktop. Didn't see it. I rarely read past the signature line now because of the gigantic BS quasi-legal disclaimers at the bottoms of most messages... like the one in yours :) Harold
Re: Shouldn't we put or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
That's really helpful ! Thank you. David - Original Message - From: Jack Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: Re: Souldn't we put or [CygXwin] here depending on the question? David, You can always use Gmane's web or news interfaces[1] to read the Cygwin mailing lists, which doesn't require subscribing at all. To be able to post while unsubscribed, add your e-mail address to the whitelist[2]. 1. http://news.gmane.org/search.php?match=cygwin 2. http://sources.redhat.com/lists.html#archive-archive, question 9. Good luck.
RE: Cygwin/X11 forwarding ques.
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Rosenstrauch, David wrote: Thanks for the response. Your answer probably still stands, but I just wanted to point out a typo of mine, just in case it threw anyone off. That should have read: Is is possible, though, to do the opposite: i.e., use X11 forwarding to have GUI apps from my Windows box run remotely on my *LINUX* box? The limiting factor is not the destination os but the graphics system on the source. There is no way to export the windows drawing commands via X11. There have been ideas to implement this with mirror video adapter drivers like utravnc uses them or with the x11drv from wine. But the last time i looked into it (esp. the wine x11drv driver) i found it nearly impossible to build it without spending a half live on it. I could redirect you to a mailing list which had this goal too but the list is dead for about a year now after an initial lets take it on and discuss the correct name for our project and then let it die again hype. Anyway if you are interested, you can enjoy the silence in http://sources.redhat.com/ml/win32-x11/ (they've got about 30 messages in the last 18 months) bye ago, trying to stop ranting -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
RE: Cygwin/X11 forwarding ques.
-Original Message- From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cygwin/X11 forwarding ques. Didn't see it. I rarely read past the signature line now because of the gigantic BS quasi-legal disclaimers at the bottoms of most messages... like the one in yours :) Harold Yup. They are really annoying. Mine included. Don't blame me; I just work here. :-) Thanks, DR MMS csfb.cs-group.com made the following annotations. -- This message is for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you received this message in error please delete it and notify us. If this message was misdirected, CSFB does not waive any confidentiality or privilege. CSFB retains and monitors electronic communications sent through its network. Instructions transmitted over this system are not binding on CSFB until they are confirmed by us. Message transmission is not guaranteed to be secure. ==
RE: Shouldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
How did you know that ? :-) yourself. I'm not your mum, and nor is anyone else on the list, so why do you expect us to spoon-feed you? = Sylvain Petreolle (spetreolle_at_users_dot_sourceforge_dot_net) Say NO to software patents Dites NON aux brevets logiciels You believe it's the year 1984, when in fact, its closer to 21841984 / Matrix Yahoo! Mail : votre e-mail personnel et gratuit qui vous suit partout ! Créez votre Yahoo! Mail sur http://fr.benefits.yahoo.com/ Dialoguez en direct avec vos amis grâce à Yahoo! Messenger !Téléchargez Yahoo! Messenger sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com
RE: Cygwin/X11 forwarding ques.
-Original Message- From: Alexander Gottwald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:13 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Cygwin/X11 forwarding ques. The limiting factor is not the destination os but the graphics system on the source. There is no way to export the windows drawing commands via X11. There have been ideas to implement this with mirror video adapter drivers like utravnc uses them or with the x11drv from wine. But the last time i looked into it (esp. the wine x11drv driver) i found it nearly impossible to build it without spending a half live on it. OK. Thanks for the background info - greatly appreciated! DR == This message is for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you received this message in error please delete it and notify us. If this message was misdirected, CSFB does not waive any confidentiality or privilege. CSFB retains and monitors electronic communications sent through its network. Instructions transmitted over this system are not binding on CSFB until they are confirmed by us. Message transmission is not guaranteed to be secure. ==
Re: Cygwin/X11 forwarding ques.
Why would you want to run a notepad ? is your vi infected by a new cygwin virus ? :) I actually tried this as an experiment: started up Cygwin's sshd on the win box and did an ssh -X into it. I was able to ssh in - and even launch an app (notepad). Problem was, of course, that notepad opened on the Windows box, and not remotely on the Linux box. = Sylvain Petreolle (spetreolle_at_users_dot_sourceforge_dot_net) Say NO to software patents Dites NON aux brevets logiciels You believe it's the year 1984, when in fact, its closer to 21841984 / Matrix Yahoo! Mail : votre e-mail personnel et gratuit qui vous suit partout ! Créez votre Yahoo! Mail sur http://fr.benefits.yahoo.com/ Dialoguez en direct avec vos amis grâce à Yahoo! Messenger !Téléchargez Yahoo! Messenger sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: Shouldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
Okay, I think I asked that this email help thing not be discussed here. Harold
RE: Cygwin/X11 forwarding ques.
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RE: Various starting X problems
Hi Harold, Firstly, it's generally bad form to quote verbatim email addresses - although Luke did so in his original posting, so he can't complain if a spam harvester latches onto him ;-). Now... Luke said: In my .xinitrc I *don't* have an explicit path for xterm. However, I see xterm has moved from /usr/X11R6/bin to /usr/bin! Did many other X applications also move into there?My system does not have a problem finding xterm in /usr/bin because /usr/bin should always be in your Cygwin shell path... something else is wrong with your Cygwin setup if that is not the case. Slightly OT: I noticed that the start menu entry for xterm no longer works. Entering the command from the shortcut directly into the cmd.exe shell returns without an error or any output (that I can find). From bash, the command works fine. The other shortcuts that I've tried (e.g.. xcalc) all worked, so there is presumably something unusual about the way that xterm starts that causes a silent exit when started from a vanilla DOS/Windows shell. My guess is that it's relying on some env var. I only noticed that xterm had moved because when I start X with -multiwindow (or with -clipboard), it complains like this and exits: $ PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin startx -multiwindow -- :0 Surely this should be: $ PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin startx -- -multiwindow My understanding is that all args before the -- are client args and all following it are server args. If no client is specified, the default client, which is hardcoded to be /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm is used and -multiwindow is passed as an argument to it. So if I remove the exec wmaker from .xinitrc, X starts and stops instantly. So I add an xterm at the end of .xinitrc (since X doesn't realise the wmaker would have started lots of windows from its saved workspace state if it had been given a few seconds to run). Yeah, you have to have a magic client that is started with an exec at the end of your .xinitrc, otherwise the behavior that you described is exactly what is supposed to happen. The point is that xinitrc is somewhat misnamed as it drives the entire x session from conception to grave. It's just a shell script and once the last command exits and the script ends, the session is terminated. Any old command that won't return until you've finished with X will do. From the xinit(1) man page: An important point is that programs which are run by .xinitrc should be run in the background if they do not exit right away, so that they don't prevent other programs from starting up. However, the last long- lived program started (usually a window manager or terminal emulator) should be left in the foreground so that the script won't exit (which indicates that the user is done and that xinit should exit). I wonder how I can run multiwindow with wmaker as my window manager? Why would you want to Luke? multiwindow IS a window manager that just wraps the X window's client area in MS Windows' frames and has an invisible root window. If your aim is to have wmaker style frames without an X root window, try the -rootless option with wmaker. I used to use X this way until multiwindow got so good :-) Maybe keep the exec wmaker and set display to :1 ... No, startx -multiwindow -- :1 triggers the no program named /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm in PATH crash. So I don't quite see how to achieve that. I tried xinit -multiwindow but that started up a full desktop. Seriously, the easiet way is to use startxwin.bat and modify it according to the instructions in that file. Or, if you really want to start from a Cygwin shell, use startxwin.sh and modify it accorinding to its instructions. There are pre-made lines that are just commented out that start a window manager etc. Lets have you try these things first and see where it goes. Harold Harold, I'm quickly coming to the opinion that .bat should really be spelled .bad !! My / is the recommended C:\cygwin, but /usr is mounted on D:\cygwin\usr. This means that the all of the %CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr based paths in the script are all wrong. There is no way (major kludges aside) to generate the correct paths in a generic .bat file. Consequently, every time I install a newer version, I need to hack the new .bat file (or patch my own script with any changes you've made). If you'd be interested in a unified approach, where the .bat just runs bash -c startxwin.sh (which will probably in turn be just a wrapper for startx) I might be able to make time for this. The ultimate goal being to make any configuration of startup parameters external to the scripts and therefore remove ANY need for users to hack the scripts themselves. There was mention a while ago of making multiwindow a standalone window manager. Has anything been done in this direction? It would certainly ease making a one size fits all startup and remove much of the confusion this thread typifies - i.e. the rule would be: always
Re: Updated: XFree86-xserv-4.3.0-66
Lev, 1) winclipboardxevents.c/winClipboardFlushXEvents/SelectionRequest - Change the 'format' value for the first call to XChangeProperty from 8 to 32 since we are passing a data array of Atoms, which are 32 bits long. (Lev Bishop) TARGETS still doesn't work right. Now, a request for TARGETS puts the following in XWin.log (once for each request): winMultiWindowXMsgProcErrorHandler - ERROR: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) I can't find the above change in the CVS (is it there?) No, it was missing. When I applied the patch I got a complaint about the diff that followed the winclipboardxevents.c file, so I applied that following one by hand; but it turns out that the diff for the winclipboardxevents.c file was ignored as well, despite there not being an error indicating this. So, I have applied the patch again and committed it to CVS. but perhaps you need to change from sizeof(atomTargetArr) to sizeof(atomTargetArr)/sizeof(Atom) ?? Yup, that looks correct to me. I don't think the TARGETS support has ever worked... it is pretty easy to see that the call to XChangeProperty was not correct by just looking at the next call to XChangeProperty about a hundred lines down in the file, and the docs make it obvious that it was wrong as well. I thank you for catching this because no one noticed this until now and I don't think anyone else was looking for it either. Sorry I can't compile my own versions to test these things but I don't even have room on my HD for the X sources... Hmm... actually, you might. I think you would only need the following source packages: -base -bin -prog -xserv Those packages total only 12 MiB in bzip2 form. Uncompressed they take 68.2 MiB but 84.1 MiB on a disk with 4 KiB clusters. You'd need the Cygwin packages listed on the following page (except I think you can skip perl since we aren't going to build the fonts): http://x.cygwin.com/docs/cg/prog-build-native.html Then you would edit /usr/src/xc/CYGWIN-PATCHES/host.def.in and add these lines to minimize the amount of code built: === #define BuildServersOnlyYES #define XnestServer NO #define XVirtualFramebufferServer NO === Then you are just three simple steps away from a build of XWin.exe: == $ cd /usr/src $ cp xc/CYGWIN-PATCHES/XFree86-4.3.0.sh . $ ./XFree86-4.3.0.sh mkdirs \ ./XFree86-4.3.0.sh conf \ ./XFree86-4.3.0.sh build build.log 21 == Then you can find your own XWin.exe at: /usr/src/xc/.build/programs/Xserver/XWin.exe You can just copy this to /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe and start testing the changes you have made. After the initial build you can remake only the server by: = $ cd /usr/src/xc/.build/programs/Xserver make XWin.exe = The total amount of data generated by the build was 30 MiB requiring 60 MiB on a disk with 4 KiB clusters. The build took 12 minutes on my machine. So, unless you have less than 250 MiB of free disk space, then I think that you actually can do your own builds and probably should. Note: I tested the above build steps and confirmed that they work; the numbers presented are from an actual build, not just guesses. Harold
Re: Various starting X problems
Phil, Phil Betts wrote: Hi Harold, Firstly, it's generally bad form to quote verbatim email addresses - although Luke did so in his original posting, so he can't complain if a spam harvester latches onto him ;-). You know, I know that, but as you said, if they did it to themself first then I'm not going to lose sleep over it, nor am I going to waste my time confirming that I'm not reposting something that has already been posted since the cat is already out of the bag. Now... Luke said: In my .xinitrc I *don't* have an explicit path for xterm. However, I see xterm has moved from /usr/X11R6/bin to /usr/bin! Did many other X applications also move into there?My system does not have a problem finding xterm in /usr/bin because /usr/bin should always be in your Cygwin shell path... something else is wrong with your Cygwin setup if that is not the case. Slightly OT: I noticed that the start menu entry for xterm no longer works. Entering the command from the shortcut directly into the cmd.exe shell returns without an error or any output (that I can find). From bash, the command works fine. The other shortcuts that I've tried (e.g.. xcalc) all worked, so there is presumably something unusual about the way that xterm starts that causes a silent exit when started from a vanilla DOS/Windows shell. My guess is that it's relying on some env var. I'm aware of this. I don't remember the exact details, but there is a sort of Catch-22 situation for setting the start in folder for the xterm shortcut; neither '/usr/bin' nor '/usr/X11R6/bin' work for different reasons. Furthermore, I believe that the script that creates the shortcuts needs to be modified to be able to support shortcuts to programs that live in /usr/bin. You'll notice that the emacs shortcut also does not work for the same reason. I don't have time to fix this. I would appreciate it if someone else would grab the -src package for X-start-menu-icons via setup.exe and work on fixing it; I don't want a half-assed untested patch either, I want one that has been thoroughly tested (you know, tough stuff like clicking at least one of the tree classes of shortcuts: /usr/bin X programs, /usr/X11R6/bin X programs, and /usr/X11R6/bin terminal programs) since the sort of changes required may break the other links that the scripts create (this is part of the Catch-22 I was talking about). Maybe keep the exec wmaker and set display to :1 ... No, startx -multiwindow -- :1 triggers the no program named /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm in PATH crash. So I don't quite see how to achieve that. I tried xinit -multiwindow but that started up a full desktop. Seriously, the easiet way is to use startxwin.bat and modify it according to the instructions in that file. Or, if you really want to start from a Cygwin shell, use startxwin.sh and modify it accorinding to its instructions. There are pre-made lines that are just commented out that start a window manager etc. Lets have you try these things first and see where it goes. Harold Harold, I'm quickly coming to the opinion that .bat should really be spelled .bad !! My / is the recommended C:\cygwin, but /usr is mounted on D:\cygwin\usr. This means that the all of the %CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr based paths in the script are all wrong. There is no way (major kludges aside) to generate the correct paths in a generic .bat file. Consequently, every time I install a newer version, I need to hack the new .bat file (or patch my own script with any changes you've made). I wrote a short utility called find_cygwin using Open Watcom but I haven't finished it yet. The problems I ran into were that I could get the paths I needed, but exposing them to the batch file as a variable of some sort was darn near impossible. If you'd be interested in a unified approach, where the .bat just runs bash -c startxwin.sh (which will probably in turn be just a wrapper for startx) I might be able to make time for this. Yes, I think that may be the way to go at this point since we are starting to waste a lot of cycles trying to do things in batch files that are easily supported in shell scripts using *nix-style utilities. Give it a try. Download the X-startup-scripts -src package via setup.exe and hack away. I don't think it would be too hard... the batch file will basically be just like /cygwin.bat but it will launch a given script instead of displaying a console... you might have to use run to prevent it from popping up a console that sticks around until all of the spawned processes finish, but maybe not. The ultimate goal being to make any configuration of startup parameters external to the scripts and therefore remove ANY need for users to hack the scripts themselves. I wouldn't go for the gold yet... just make a batch file that runs the shell script first so that people can still create Windows shortcuts to the batch file, then we can go from there. There was mention a while ago of making multiwindow
Re: Various starting X problems
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote (irrelevant parts snipped): Phil Betts wrote: Luke said: In my .xinitrc I *don't* have an explicit path for xterm. However, I see xterm has moved from /usr/X11R6/bin to /usr/bin! Did many other Slightly OT: I noticed that the start menu entry for xterm no longer works. Entering the command from the shortcut directly into the cmd.exe shell returns without an error or any output (that I can find). From bash, the command works fine. The other shortcuts that I've tried (e.g.. xcalc) all worked, so there is presumably something unusual about the way that xterm starts that causes a silent exit when started from a vanilla DOS/Windows shell. My guess is that it's relying on some env var. I'm aware of this. I don't remember the exact details, but there is a sort of Catch-22 situation for setting the start in folder for the xterm shortcut; neither '/usr/bin' nor '/usr/X11R6/bin' work for different reasons. Furthermore, I believe that the script that creates the shortcuts needs to be modified to be able to support shortcuts to programs that live in /usr/bin. You'll notice that the emacs shortcut also does not work for the same reason. I don't have time to fix this. I would appreciate it if someone else would grab the -src package for X-start-menu-icons via setup.exe and work on fixing it; I don't want a half-assed untested patch either, I want one that has been thoroughly tested (you know, tough stuff like clicking at least one of the tree classes of shortcuts: /usr/bin X programs, /usr/X11R6/bin X programs, and /usr/X11R6/bin terminal programs) since the sort of changes required may break the other links that the scripts create (this is part of the Catch-22 I was talking about). I don't recall any discussion or a heads-up that xterm now resides in /usr/bin... Any particular reason for this decision? I wrote a short utility called find_cygwin using Open Watcom but I haven't finished it yet. The problems I ran into were that I could get the paths I needed, but exposing them to the batch file as a variable of some sort was darn near impossible. How about the macro replace in a postinstall script approach I suggested earlier? Also, postinstall scripts already run *in* Cygwin, so there should be no reason to detect it, right? Just use cygpath... If you'd be interested in a unified approach, where the .bat just runs bash -c startxwin.sh (which will probably in turn be just a wrapper for startx) I might be able to make time for this. Yes, I think that may be the way to go at this point since we are starting to waste a lot of cycles trying to do things in batch files that are easily supported in shell scripts using *nix-style utilities. Perhaps you're right. As long as you run bash --login -c ..., so that the PATH is set properly. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route to the bathroom is a major career booster. -- Patrick Naughton
Re: numlock
Alexander Gottwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, J S wrote: Ah, not the answer I was expecting! Are you pulling my leg or was that a serious answer?! This is a serious answer. Numlock is treated as modifier key just like caps lock or control. pressing a key while numlock is on is just like pressing ctrl + key. I think perhaps the other part of this question is why some X11 servers on other platforms don't treat numlock as a modifier but XFree86 does. Could this be made configurable? I think this has been discussed before, though, so perhaps a search of the archives is in order... Cary
Re: Various starting X problems
Igor, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote (irrelevant parts snipped): Phil Betts wrote: Luke said: In my .xinitrc I *don't* have an explicit path for xterm. However, I see xterm has moved from /usr/X11R6/bin to /usr/bin! Did many other Slightly OT: I noticed that the start menu entry for xterm no longer works. Entering the command from the shortcut directly into the cmd.exe shell returns without an error or any output (that I can find). From bash, the command works fine. The other shortcuts that I've tried (e.g.. xcalc) all worked, so there is presumably something unusual about the way that xterm starts that causes a silent exit when started from a vanilla DOS/Windows shell. My guess is that it's relying on some env var. I'm aware of this. I don't remember the exact details, but there is a sort of Catch-22 situation for setting the start in folder for the xterm shortcut; neither '/usr/bin' nor '/usr/X11R6/bin' work for different reasons. Furthermore, I believe that the script that creates the shortcuts needs to be modified to be able to support shortcuts to programs that live in /usr/bin. You'll notice that the emacs shortcut also does not work for the same reason. I don't have time to fix this. I would appreciate it if someone else would grab the -src package for X-start-menu-icons via setup.exe and work on fixing it; I don't want a half-assed untested patch either, I want one that has been thoroughly tested (you know, tough stuff like clicking at least one of the tree classes of shortcuts: /usr/bin X programs, /usr/X11R6/bin X programs, and /usr/X11R6/bin terminal programs) since the sort of changes required may break the other links that the scripts create (this is part of the Catch-22 I was talking about). I don't recall any discussion or a heads-up that xterm now resides in /usr/bin... Any particular reason for this decision? It wasn't a change... the xterm package has always been this way since its inception a couple weeks ago. Chris and I discussed on cygwin-apps that there was no reason to put new X packages in /usr/X11R6 so I have not been doing this for most new X packages; barring those that do broken things and need to be stuck in /usr/X11R6, like libXft. I wrote a short utility called find_cygwin using Open Watcom but I haven't finished it yet. The problems I ran into were that I could get the paths I needed, but exposing them to the batch file as a variable of some sort was darn near impossible. How about the macro replace in a postinstall script approach I suggested earlier? Also, postinstall scripts already run *in* Cygwin, so there should be no reason to detect it, right? Just use cygpath... Still don't like that approach... it makes scripts that are dependent upon the setup of a machine at one point in time. I can just see the complaints rolling in when users cut d:\cygwin and paste it to c:\cygwin, fix their mount points, and see that X fails to start. The reason I wrote a find_cygwin utility was because the assumption was that you don't know where cygwin1.dll is, nor do you know where cygpath is, not do I want the utility to be dependent upon any Cygwin utilities at all. Of course, it isn't totally finished and probably never will be, but it was satisfying to see a 34 KiB program that could answer my question. Another thing that the utility would be useful for is for launching programs from the start menu... if the Cygwin mount points change, all of the menu links are invalidated because cygwin1.dll can't be found, nor can anything else. With a utility like find_cygwin you can have it look up where cygwin1.dll is via the mount points in the registry, then set the path to include that directory. Course, this sort of doesn't work because batch files suck. If you'd be interested in a unified approach, where the .bat just runs bash -c startxwin.sh (which will probably in turn be just a wrapper for startx) I might be able to make time for this. Yes, I think that may be the way to go at this point since we are starting to waste a lot of cycles trying to do things in batch files that are easily supported in shell scripts using *nix-style utilities. Perhaps you're right. As long as you run bash --login -c ..., so that the PATH is set properly. Yup, it seems time to do this. Harold
Problem report: Netscape program launched from a client server
Hi, I launched the Netscape program from a remote Sun Solaris machine to be displayed on a Xterm window of laptop PC using X-Cygwin. The Netscape could not start and came back with an error message as the followings: Error of failed request: Badrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window Parameter) Major opcode o failed request: 73 (X_GetImage) Resource ID in failed request: 0x3a Serial number of failed request: 78 Current serial number in output stream: 78 Exit 1netscape That was the message. I have tried the XView program to display images of the Sun Solaris using Xterm/Cywin on a PC and it works just fine. Please let me know how to fix this problem. Thanks, Tam -- o ( ) | \\ | // | -- Off: 818-354-7296 ()/-| | | | Fax: 818-354-8172 /---/\Addr: Bldg 107-104G ( ) ( ) ( ) Mail Addr: Bldg 107
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Subject: Re: Various starting X problems
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 17:08:28 +1000 (EST)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 31 Mar, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
Luke,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now with the workaround of knowing to run startx -- :0 to get X to
start, I thought I'd have a poke about to see what exactly makes it
crash. I came up with several interesting problems.
In my .xinitrc I *don't* have an explicit path for xterm. However, I
see xterm has moved from /usr/X11R6/bin to /usr/bin! Did many other X
applications also move into there?
My system does not have a problem finding xterm in /usr/bin because
/usr/bin should always be in your Cygwin shell path... something else is
wrong with your Cygwin setup if that is not the case.
Hmm, okay. /usr/bin and /bin and /usrX11R6/bin are all in my PATH.
The error message is:
xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): no program named /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
in PATH
Since there is no /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm (only a /usr/bin/xterm), I
suppose it's correct. I haven't been able to find what it is that's
referencing the absolute path to the old location for xterm.
(It still seems strange to me that it moved to /usr/bin.)
I only noticed that xterm had moved because when I start X with
-multiwindow (or with -clipboard), it complains like this and exits:
$ PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin startx -multiwindow -- :0
You shouldn't have to set the PATH to include /usr/X11R6/bin... as you
said, it cannot find /usr/bin/xterm.
No, if it was asking for /usr/bin/xterm it would have been okay.
Something is asking for /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm.
XCOMM: not found
Oops... that isn't supposed to be in the startx script. Those XCOMMs
are supposed to be replaced with # signs at the beginning of the line.
I've fixed this in a new version of the script.
Thanks.
cat: /cygdrive/d/home/luke/.Xauthority: No such file or directory
xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): no program named
/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm in PATH
Something else must be wrong with your path.
I don't think so. FWIW, here is my full and ugly PATH, wrapped for
easy reading but no other changes:
/cygdrive/C/PROGRA~1/MICROS~3/VC98/BIN:
/cygdrive/C/PROGRA~1/MICROS~3/Common/MSDev98/BIN:
/cygdrive/d/home/luke/op-support:
/cygdrive/d/home/luke/bin:
/opt/bin:
/usr/X11R6/bin:
/usr/local/bin:
/usr/bin:
/bin:
/cygdrive/c/Tcl/bin:
/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32:
/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS:
/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/Wbem:
/cygdrive/c/Program Files/nsr/bin:
/usr/bin:
/cygdrive/x/bin:
/cygdrive/c/mysql/bin:
/cygdrive/c/jdk1.3.1_01/jre/bin/hotspot:
/cygdrive/d/home/mport/mp/build/win32/bin:
/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Common Files/Adaptec Shared/System:
/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Canon/mport/bin:
/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Canon/mport/bin:
/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Canon/mport/bin:
/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Canon/mport/bin:
/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Canon/mport/bin:
/cygdrive/x/cygnus/cisra:
/opt/script:
/usr/local/bin:/
/handel/d/bin/script:
//handel/d/bin
Apart from some classically-stupid repetitions, and one complete stupid
and excessive repetition I didn't expect (mport), it seems functional
if inefficient.
I think you have a custom ~/.xinitrc or your /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc has
been modified. Or, you might have ~/.xserverrc or
/etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc (which are not installed by anything I have
written). Please send in any of these files if you find them so that we
can see what they are doing. For starters, they are obviously starting
a window manager, which is not something that the version from
X-startup-scripts-1.0.5-1 does.
I definitely have a custom .xinitrc file. In fact part of our site
post-install process was to create a default one, since initially
Cygwin's XFree didn't include it. I hadn't realised it was colliding
with one from Cygwin. Our standard site post-install creates the
~/.xinitrc. Sounds like I'd better try to back that out.
How much does Cygwin's XFree depend on the (traditionally)
user-controlled .xinitrc file, to work properly? Does it also depend
on specific Cygwin things in ~/.Xresources?
I'll zip up and attach the files, anyway. I've included an XWin.log
from a failure when started with -multiwindow.
Archive: /u/luke/xwin.zip
Length Date TimeName
1698 04-01-04 14:22 .xinitrc
509 11-06-02 17:31 .Xresources
688 03-17-04 14:53 cygwin/startx.bat
3857 04-01-04 14:25
Re: Updated: XFree86-xserv-4.3.0-66
Harold:I tried the build method you described, but I get an error: I get: ... making all in programs/Xserver/xkb... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/xc/.build/programs/Xserver/xkb' make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/xkmread.c', needed by `xkmread.c'. Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xc/.build/programs/Xserver/xkb' make: *** [xkb] Error 2 Seems to be something to do with the BuildXKBlib macro. Probably caused by the lines in config/cf/X11.tmpl: #define BuildXKBfilelib (BuildXKB !BuildServersOnly) #if BuildXKBlib XKBFILELIBSRC = $(LIBSRC)/xkbfile I tried adding the line: XKBFILELIBSRC = $(LIBSRC)/xkbfile To xc/CYGWIN-PATCHES/hosts.def.in and building again. Which gives me an XWin.exe that appears to work (I haven't tested it much yet). I find the X build system (like many other build systems) completely bewildering so that's as far as I got. Did I do the right thing? Lev
Re: Updated: XFree86-xserv-4.3.0-66
Lev, Lev Bishop wrote: Harold:I tried the build method you described, but I get an error: I get: ... making all in programs/Xserver/xkb... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/xc/.build/programs/Xserver/xkb' make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/xkmread.c', needed by `xkmread.c'. Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xc/.build/programs/Xserver/xkb' make: *** [xkb] Error 2 Seems to be something to do with the BuildXKBlib macro. Probably caused by the lines in config/cf/X11.tmpl: #define BuildXKBfilelib (BuildXKB !BuildServersOnly) #if BuildXKBlib XKBFILELIBSRC = $(LIBSRC)/xkbfile I tried adding the line: XKBFILELIBSRC = $(LIBSRC)/xkbfile To xc/CYGWIN-PATCHES/hosts.def.in and building again. Which gives me an XWin.exe that appears to work (I haven't tested it much yet). Yeah, that will work for now. It appears that this has been fixed in the version that we will begin distributing next week sometime, so there is no need to fix this permanently in our current tarballs. I find the X build system (like many other build systems) completely bewildering so that's as far as I got. Did I do the right thing? Yup, you should be good to go... all you needed to do in this case was to shut up the compiler and make, which you did just fine if you got an XWin.exe in the end. Now you can start sending me patches instead of instructions on what to do. Send a few good patches and you'll get a cvs account to start doing things directly yourself. I think that the things you are working on for making the clipboard support more robust and reliable are very worthwhile and I appreciate that you are looking into them. For making patches, let me suggest using the little makefile I stuck in /usr/src/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin. If you want to make a backup of just the files in hw/xwin (most likely this is all you'll be sending patches for, or all that you'll want to backup before you make big changes), then just do the following: cd /usr/src/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin make -f backup.mk VERSION=MMDD-HHMM The scripts will make a backup of all relevent files in hw/xwin while ignoring stupid files created by emacs like foo~ and #foo#, or other backup files. It will create a directory called /usr/src/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin-MMDD-HHMM (of course, substitute the date and time there, in that ISO-style format so that sorting works properly). I do this right before I make a big change and right after I am done, then I do the following to make a patch (where * marks the previous version and ^ marks the current version): cd /usr/src/xc/programs/Xserver/hw diff -upN xwin-MMDD-HHMM* xwin-MMDD-HHMM^ \ xwin-MMDD-HHMM^.diff Hope that helps, Harold
Re: Fwd: Re: Various starting X problems
Luke,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
cat: /cygdrive/d/home/luke/.Xauthority: No such file or directory
xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): no program named
/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm in PATH
Something else must be wrong with your path.
I don't think so. FWIW, here is my full and ugly PATH, wrapped for
easy reading but no other changes:
Oh no, once again I am right on this one... read on for a full
explanation of what you need to tell us in the future when you have such
problems.
I think you have a custom ~/.xinitrc or your /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc has
been modified. Or, you might have ~/.xserverrc or
/etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc (which are not installed by anything I have
written). Please send in any of these files if you find them so that we
can see what they are doing. For starters, they are obviously starting
a window manager, which is not something that the version from
X-startup-scripts-1.0.5-1 does.
I definitely have a custom .xinitrc file. In fact part of our site
post-install process was to create a default one, since initially
Cygwin's XFree didn't include it. I hadn't realised it was colliding
with one from Cygwin. Our standard site post-install creates the
~/.xinitrc. Sounds like I'd better try to back that out.
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc can be copied to ~/.xinitrc, but your copy looks
pretty close to stock except for the window manager that you are running.
How much does Cygwin's XFree depend on the (traditionally)
user-controlled .xinitrc file, to work properly? Does it also depend
on specific Cygwin things in ~/.Xresources?
Not sure what you are asking here... I don't think the things you are
worried about matter in this case.
I'll zip up and attach the files, anyway. I've included an XWin.log
from a failure when started with -multiwindow.
Archive: /u/luke/xwin.zip
Length Date TimeName
1698 04-01-04 14:22 .xinitrc
509 11-06-02 17:31 .Xresources
688 03-17-04 14:53 cygwin/startx.bat
3857 04-01-04 14:25 cygwin/tmp/XWin.log
---
6752 4 files
So if I remove the exec wmaker from .xinitrc, X starts and stops
instantly. So I add an xterm at the end of .xinitrc (since X doesn't
realise the wmaker would have started lots of windows from its saved
workspace state if it had been given a few seconds to run).
Yeah, you have to have a magic client that is started with an exec at
the end of your .xinitrc, otherwise the behavior that you described is
exactly what is supposed to happen.
Yep, I recognised the behaviour.
I think you can override the defaultserverargs in your .xinitrc so that
you could have a .xinitrc that both starts its own wm and prevents
startx from passing -multiwindow to XWin.exe. I'm not an xinit/startx
expert, so you'll have to look for docs on that elsewhere.
Are there any docs on -multiwindow and using the Windows desktop as
your window manager?
It looks like no window manager is running at all.
I wonder how I can run multiwindow with wmaker as my window manager?
Maybe keep the exec wmaker and set display to :1 ... No, startx
-multiwindow -- :1 triggers the no program named
/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm in PATH crash. So I don't quite see how to
achieve that. I tried xinit -multiwindow but that started up a full
desktop.
Seriously, the easiet way is to use startxwin.bat and modify it
according to the instructions in that file. Or, if you really want to
start from a Cygwin shell, use startxwin.sh and modify it accorinding to
its instructions. There are pre-made lines that are just commented out
that start a window manager etc.
Ah, yes, I knew there were some new startup scripts but I couldn't
remember what they were. I'm still using the version of /startx.bat
that I modified, and pointed to from a desktop shortcut I've set up.
Lets have you try these things first and see where it goes.
Absolutely. Thanks, Harold.
I tried startxwin.sh without a lot of joy. I can't see where it gets
its starting set of windows, and I can't see how to start up any
windows conveniently either. (Currently it has -multiwindow and
-clipboard hardwired in - it doesn't seem to do any argument
processing.)
I may change that and send you a revised one, if you'd be interested.
Perhaps my question is, why would anyone choose to run multiwindow
using the Windows desktop? There seems to be no easy way to start X
applications, except presumably from the command line.
It doesn't seem to use .xinitrc how I'd expect. Sure, if I add an
exec wmaker then it all fails because it thinks a window manager (the
Windows desktop) is running, and bails out. But if instead I add an
xmessage Quit X at the end instead, that never appears. I just end
up with the console window with yellow text on black background, and
an icon in the Windows tray, that I can use to exit X or unhide the
root window.
If I unhide the root window, then the X cursor
Re: Fwd: Re: Various starting X problems
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 09:10:18AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm re-sending this since the mail server rejected the .zip attachment, it seems: The Postfix program [EMAIL PROTECTED]: host sources.redhat.com[67.72.78.213] said: 552 we don't accept email with executable content (#5.3.4) (in reply to end of DATA command) There is no need to inform the list of your mailing list discoveries. Really. It is not interesting.
Re: Various starting X problems
On 1 Apr, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: How about the macro replace in a postinstall script approach I suggested earlier? Also, postinstall scripts already run *in* Cygwin, so there should be no reason to detect it, right? Just use cygpath... If you'd be interested in a unified approach, where the .bat just runs bash -c startxwin.sh (which will probably in turn be just a wrapper for startx) I might be able to make time for this. Yes, I think that may be the way to go at this point since we are starting to waste a lot of cycles trying to do things in batch files that are easily supported in shell scripts using *nix-style utilities. Perhaps you're right. As long as you run bash --login -c ..., so that the PATH is set properly. That's what I do as part of my post-install. Here's the generic startx.bat: rem The D: gets replaced by the real Cygwin drive during installation: D: chdir \cygwin\bin rem For use with sample .profile: stop the exec in user's .profile for the rem case where we're really starting the X server. set STARTX=df rem bash --login -c PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin; startx bash --login -c PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin; startx -- -multiwindow rem bash --login -c PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin; startx -- -rootless With this line from my 345 line post-install script: sed s/^D:/$CYGDRIVE:/;s/\\cygwin/$CYGDIR/ startx.bat /startx.bat chmod 777 /startx.bat I learned many years ago that writing Windows .bat scripts is like typing with your nose. There's a certain satisfaction at getting a result, but you work a lot harder. My rule of thumb was about 10 times the effort of writing a shell script goes into writing a .bat script. luke
Computer upgrade complete and a nice biography treat
I've been meaning to inform the list that I was able to purchase an Athlon XP 2100+ for my system and it works great. Unfortunately, the low price of $50 that I was seeing was for a Thoroughbred chip while I needed a Palomino which ended up costing my $90. Thankfully the chip worked and my build times are down over 30% from my Athlon 1.2 GHz; the CPU is still pegged at 100% during builds so I know the speed is not being limited by memory throughput or hard drive throughput. A friend built the entire Cygwin/X distribution on his Pentium 4 2.8 GHz machine in just over 45 minutes; my relatively cheap upgrades have gotten me a 65 minute build time, which is great for me. Before I spoil the rest of the story, I was going to take some pictures of my upgraded system, and instead ended up doing a sort of mini biography of myself and my toys: http://msu.edu/~huntharo/bio/ Check it out, I hope you enjoy all of the pictures... oh yeah, there is a picture of me for all of you that are just starving to know what I look like after all of these years. ;) Harold
Souldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
I got mails from both two groups:cygwin, and cygXwin. It's sometimes confusing. Don't we need to seperate one from the other by putting a head into Subject, for example, [cygwin] vs. [cygXwin]? Just an opinion, as a beginner ^^ David
RE: Souldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
-Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of David I got mails from both two groups:cygwin, and cygXwin. Well, that's because you're on two completely different mailing lists. It's sometimes confusing. You're very easily confused then. Why don't you set up your mailer to sort them into different folders? Don't we need to seperate one from the other by putting a head into Subject, for example, [cygwin] vs. [cygXwin]? What on earth is the use of putting a tag in the subject line when it only pointlessly duplicates information that is already in the From/To lines: From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of . and when there's presumably many people who are only on one list. You could always just learn how to set up mail-sorting rules in your email program, rather than expect everyone else to suddenly start doing things your way just to save you the five minutes of effort it would take you to sort your own problem out. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today
Re: Shouldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
I've been using Outlook Express, and it doesn't seem that I can sort mails to different folders. I can? If so, would you tell me how? I need to read/write Korean fully, so I did not try other mail clients before. I think most of the mail clients can cover foreign languages now, but at this time, it may be inefficient to move to other mailer. Anyway, I'm on several mailing lists with this email acount, and I thought it would be good if cygwin has a similiar mark as others do unless, as you pointed out, I can sort them. Thank you. David - Original Message - From: Dave Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:30 AM Subject: RE: Souldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question? -Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of David I got mails from both two groups:cygwin, and cygXwin. Well, that's because you're on two completely different mailing lists. It's sometimes confusing. You're very easily confused then. Why don't you set up your mailer to sort them into different folders? Don't we need to seperate one from the other by putting a head into Subject, for example, [cygwin] vs. [cygXwin]? What on earth is the use of putting a tag in the subject line when it only pointlessly duplicates information that is already in the From/To lines: From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of . and when there's presumably many people who are only on one list. You could always just learn how to set up mail-sorting rules in your email program, rather than expect everyone else to suddenly start doing things your way just to save you the five minutes of effort it would take you to sort your own problem out. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today
Re: Souldn't we put or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
David, You can always use Gmane's web or news interfaces[1] to read the Cygwin mailing lists, which doesn't require subscribing at all. To be able to post while unsubscribed, add your e-mail address to the whitelist[2]. 1. http://news.gmane.org/search.php?match=cygwin 2. http://sources.redhat.com/lists.html#archive-archive, question 9. Good luck.
RE: Shouldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
-Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of David Sent: 01 April 2004 17:12 I've been using Outlook Express, and it doesn't seem that I can sort mails to different folders. I can? Yes. If so, would you tell me how? You see the Tools item on the menu bar? You see the entry under it that says Message Rules? Now why on earth couldn't you work that out yourself? There's a Help option on your copy of OE, isn't there? You know how to use Google, don't you? It seems you didn't even bother to put the tiniest amount of effort into it or spend even one second thinking about it or trying things out for yourself. I'm not your mum, and nor is anyone else on the list, so why do you expect us to spoon-feed you? And why are you asking for advice on how to operate Microsoft mailing packages on a cygwin related list? This topic has *nothing* to do with cygwin. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today
Re: Shouldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
1) I understand what you feel. But, as I put, it doesn't seem that I can sort mails to different folders., I tried, and I realized that I could not make it at all. It turned out that it's impossible to do that with this email account. 2) I'm still trying to read/write Korean characters, and I made it for cygwin, but cygXwin. I searched web and the mailing list, and there is no clear information on it, and I could not figure it out well yet. If you can, please help. Thank you. David - Original Message - From: Dave Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:10 AM Subject: RE: Shouldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question? -Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of David Sent: 01 April 2004 17:12 I've been using Outlook Express, and it doesn't seem that I can sort mails to different folders. I can? Yes. If so, would you tell me how? You see the Tools item on the menu bar? You see the entry under it that says Message Rules? Now why on earth couldn't you work that out yourself? There's a Help option on your copy of OE, isn't there? You know how to use Google, don't you? It seems you didn't even bother to put the tiniest amount of effort into it or spend even one second thinking about it or trying things out for yourself. I'm not your mum, and nor is anyone else on the list, so why do you expect us to spoon-feed you? And why are you asking for advice on how to operate Microsoft mailing packages on a cygwin related list? This topic has *nothing* to do with cygwin. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today
RE: Shouldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
-Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of David Sent: 01 April 2004 18:54 1) I understand what you feel. No, you don't. But, as I put, it doesn't seem that I can sort mails to different folders., I tried, and I realized that I could not make it at all. It turned out that [SNIPFLUSH] This is still nothing to do with cygwin. Bye. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today
Re: Shouldn't we put [cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 11:53:42AM -0600, David wrote: 1) I understand what you feel. But, as I put, it doesn't seem that I can sort mails to different folders., I tried, and I realized that I could not make it at all. It turned out that it's impossible to do that with this email account. That's a shame, but please don't ask us to change the mailing list to accommodate you. Can we stop talking about this now, please? cgf
src/winsup/cygwin ChangeLog fhandler_socket.cc ...
CVSROOT:/cvs/src Module name:src Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004-04-01 09:48:17 Modified files: winsup/cygwin : ChangeLog fhandler_socket.cc net.cc wsock_event.h Log message: * fhandler_socket.cc (fhandler_socket::sendto): Drop out of loop if has_been_closed gets set. (fhandler_socket::sendmsg): Ditto. * net.cc (wsock_event::wait): Don't initialize evts. Don't try to evaluate network events if WSAEnumNetworkEvents fails. (wsock_event::release): Save last WSA error and set it again unless resetting to blocking socket fails. * wsock_event.h (class wsock_event): Remove destructor. Patches: http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.2391r2=1.2392 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/fhandler_socket.cc.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.125r2=1.126 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/net.cc.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.165r2=1.166 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/wsock_event.h.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.2r2=1.3
src/winsup/mingw ChangeLog crt1.c
CVSROOT:/cvs/src Module name:src Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004-04-01 10:04:05 Modified files: winsup/mingw : ChangeLog crt1.c Log message: * crt1.c (_mingw32_init_fmode): Set *_imp___fmode_dll to _fmode if not __MSVCRT__. Patches: http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/mingw/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.186r2=1.187 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/mingw/crt1.c.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.6r2=1.7
src/winsup/cygwin ChangeLog net.cc
CVSROOT:/cvs/src Module name:src Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004-04-01 10:36:40 Modified files: winsup/cygwin : ChangeLog net.cc Log message: * net.cc (wsock_event::wait): Make wsa_err an int. Don't set ret to 0 if any error has happened. Patches: http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.2392r2=1.2393 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/net.cc.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.166r2=1.167
Re: 64-bit file operations (lseek64() etc) misbehaving
On Mar 31 17:36, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: Mike, Please make sure your mailer respects the Reply-To: header. Thanks. Frankly, I don't see any reason why open() *wouldn't* succeed on \\.\PhysicalDrive0... All it'll do is recognize a Win32 pathname (because of the '\'), and pass it along to Windows. OTOH, Cygwin will not see this name as special -- from Cygwin's point of view it's just another file. So any operations invoked on it (including open) will be regular Windows file calls, not special ones (e.g., NtOpenFile with the right attributes, as done in fhandler_dev_raw::open). This might be the reason for your initial problem. Igor Perfect explanation, Igor! Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Red Hat, Inc. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
[ANNOUNCEMENT] GNU emacs 21.3.50-2 is available
GNU emacs 21.3.50-2 is available. This release is available as a test release in the Cygwin setup.exe installer program. It is compiled from the current official FSF CVS tree for those who want to try it out. I have compiled this version with Xaw3d scrollbars. THIS RELEASE IS PROVIDED WITHOUT SUPPORT ON MY PART. Please go through normal GNU emacs bug channels to report bugs, keeping in mind that this is not an officially released version and you are essentially testing prereleased software... Execute C-h n to get a list of changes that have been made to emacs since 21.2. A couple things I noticed: - tramp is now included -- a package for remote file editing via ssh etc. - the emacs intro and emacs lisp manuals are now included - there is support for editing larger files (approx. 256 MB -- the limit used to be 128 MB) New users please be aware: - You will want tty included in your CYGWIN environment variable setting, and probably binmode. Look at the following for some documentation: http://www.cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-cygwinenv.html Joe Buehler To update your installation, click on the Install Cygwin now link on the http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downloads setup.exe to your system. Once you've downloaded setup.exe, run it and select Base and then click on the appropriate field until the above announced version number appears if it is not displayed already. If you have questions or comments, please send them to the Cygwin mailing list at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I would appreciate it if you would use this mailing list rather than emailing me directly. This includes ideas and comments about the setup utility or Cygwin in general. If you want to make a point or ask a question, the Cygwin mailing list is the appropriate place. *** CYGWIN-ANNOUNCE UNSUBSCRIBE INFO *** If you want to unsubscribe from the cygwin-announce mailing list, look at the List-Unsubscribe: tag in the email header of this message. Send email to the address specified there. It will be in the format: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you need more information on unsubscribing, start reading here: http://sources.redhat.com/lists.html#unsubscribe-simple Please read *all* of the information on unsubscribing that is available starting at this URL. I implore you to READ this information before sending email about how you tried everything to unsubscribe. In 100% of the cases where people were unable to unsubscribe, the problem was that they hadn't actually read and comprehended the unsubscribe instructions. If you need to unsubscribe from cygwin-announce or any other mailing list, reading the instructions at the above URL is guaranteed to provide you with the info that you need. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Changing jobs
On Mar 31 20:20, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:08:30 -0500, Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I just wanted to send a brief note to inform everyone that today is my last day at Red Hat. I have accepted a position with TimeSys Corporation. As if you expect us to believe that! Clearly you were forced out by stockholders due to Cygwin's poor fiscal performance. Lucky for you you found a new job quick. Corinna Vinschen has volunteered to be the official Red Hat maintainer for Cygwin. So, she'll be involved with any special cygwin licensing issues (she gets all of the distasteful stuff). Corinna and I will be co-project leads for Cygwin. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the lawyers of your enemies! I hope both of you enjoy your postions. I hope that as well, thanks. I want to take the opportunity of being in charge now for my first really official action: Igor, could you please give Chris 20 gold stars for his good work on Cygwin for the past 7 years and being mean only when it's absolutely necessary? Why only 20 you're asking? Well, Chris is leaving Red Hat, so I had to hold back the other 480 as a punishment, of course. Thanks, Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Red Hat, Inc. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: zsh and line breaks
Peter A. Castro wrote: It is easy for us to add `#ifdef __CYGWIN__' around changes or #define O_TEXT to zero on other systems so if you do correct the problem, please send the changes back to us. There are about 43 open() calls which I've updated with the O_TEXT option. Having all those ifdef's seemed rather ugly (makes the code hard to look at, expectially when they are within a few lines of each other) so I took a more elegent approach, though you may want to revise it if it doesn't meet your style requirements :) I can believe that adding ifdef's to all is ugly. That's what I meant by #define O_TEXT to zero on other systems - just one thought on a possible more elegant approach. Yep, I'm experimenting with this right now. As it stands, tests which print out to a file and then cat it back in (currently A04redirect and E01options) produce a diff, but don't otherwise seem to have any problems. Are the diffs just the line endings? From what I understand, the reported problems were with text files used as input to the shell (i.e. scripts, sourced files, autoloaded functions and stdin). Quite whether it is also right for redirected output, I wouldn't know. Oliver -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
german characters
Hi together, I have read many articles in the newsgroup and studied the FAQ on the cygwin homepage to enable german characters in the bash. But I didn't find a solution. I have a fresh cygwin install on my system. I have created a '.inputrc' in my home directory with the following entries: set meta-flag on set convert-meta off set output-meta on the file permissions are read, write and execute for everybody (only for test purpose). Now when I open my bash I get '\366' for an 'ö' and '\344' for an 'ä' and so on. When I type 'cat' then I can enter german character 'ö' 'ä' and so on. When I delete the .inputrc file then I can't see nothing when I type a german character like 'ö','ä' and so on. This seems for me that the .inputrc file is read by a bash execute. Any ideas?? It's really confusing Kind regards Markus -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
unable to start services with snapshots 20040326 and 20040329
The subject says it all. This is a full patched Windows XP SP1 box. The services in question are cron and ssh. cygrundsrv is shown in the taskmanager but not the corresponding sshd and cron. 20040325 works. Thorsten -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: unable to start services with snapshots 20040326 and 20040329
On Apr 1 13:23, Thorsten Kampe wrote: The subject says it all. This is a full patched Windows XP SP1 box. The services in question are cron and ssh. cygrundsrv is shown in the taskmanager but not the corresponding sshd and cron. 20040325 works. Known problem. Is solved in CVS. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Red Hat, Inc. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: cygwin for Government Use
Christopher Faylor schrieb: On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 05:23:54AM +0100, Reini Urban wrote: Corinna Vinschen schrieb: when reading http://cygwin.com/licensing.html, you will find that the licensing of Cygwin is pretty clear. Cygwin is Open Source, provided under the GNU Public License. That means basically, that all software linked against the Cygwin library is automatically Open Source as well. Two exception from this rule exist: - If your applications linked against the Cygwin library are only used for youyr own internal purposes, you don't have to make the sources public as well. Well, what about the poor internal guys using it? To my understanding these internal guys must get access to the sources as well, even if it's a closed community. Why not bolster your understanding with a refreshing read of the documentation available at the GNU web site? For instance: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#InternalDistribution I know that and the GPL, and it doesn't contradict my words. This FAQ just does not make it clear enough, so companies or organzations might get that wrong. Esp. such large organizations. Companies or organizations must make the source available to their internal users! They don't have to make it available to everybody asking for it, but to everybody who uses it. That's the GPL. Ask your lawyers. -- Reini Urban -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
strange install problems
I have a very strange cygwin problem. Background. I have been using cygwin without problem for 2 years. Yesterday I needed/wanted to use the uptime cmd. I didn't have it so I downloaded the setup program and tried to add it. I had a number of problems getting it installed so I decieded to just blow everything away, after backing up my home dir and re-install cygwin. I followed the instructions: removed the cygwin dir, the cygwin download tmp dir, the shortcuts on my desktop, and removed the two entries in my registry. After the download and the install I get the following text when I start cygwin: mkdir: cannot create directory `/cygdrive/h': No such file or directory Copying skeleton files. These files are for the user to personalise their cygwin experience. These will never be overwritten. /usr/bin/install: creating directory `/cygdrive' /usr/bin/install: cannot create directory `/cygdrive/h': No such file or directo ry /usr/bin/install: cannot create directory `/cygdrive/h': No such file or directo ry /usr/bin/install: cannot create directory `/cygdrive/h': No such file or directo ry bash: cd: /cygdrive/h: No such file or directory Your group name is currently mkgroup_l_d. This indicates that not all domain users and groups are listed in the /etc/passwd and /etc/group files. See the man pages for mkpasswd and mkgroup then, for example, run mkpasswd -l -d /etc/passwd mkgroup -l -d /etc/group This message is only displayed once (unless you recreate /etc/group) and can be safely ignored. cp: cannot create regular file `/cygdrive/h/group.mkgroup_l_d': No such file or directory I'm not sure what or why it's trying to do with an h: drive. I have a local c and d drive, and I have i and s network drives, and a z samba mount. I did have an h drive in the past, but with the uninstall I performed I don't know why it would be a problem now. Any ideas? Also, I didn't see a /home/$USER ? Could this be because of the problems I listed above? Thanks, Erik __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: cygwin for Government Use
On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 01:08:49PM +0100, Reini Urban wrote: Christopher Faylor schrieb: On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 05:23:54AM +0100, Reini Urban wrote: Corinna Vinschen schrieb: when reading http://cygwin.com/licensing.html, you will find that the licensing of Cygwin is pretty clear. Cygwin is Open Source, provided under the GNU Public License. That means basically, that all software linked against the Cygwin library is automatically Open Source as well. Two exception from this rule exist: - If your applications linked against the Cygwin library are only used for youyr own internal purposes, you don't have to make the sources public as well. Well, what about the poor internal guys using it? To my understanding these internal guys must get access to the sources as well, even if it's a closed community. Why not bolster your understanding with a refreshing read of the documentation available at the GNU web site? For instance: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#InternalDistribution I know that and the GPL, and it doesn't contradict my words. This FAQ just does not make it clear enough, so companies or organzations might get that wrong. Esp. such large organizations. Why don't you explain what that entry is talking about, then, or, better, in the spirit of free software, send some better words to the FSF? cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP
Hi All, I'm using the xemacs comes with Cygwin on WindowXP for file editing, but it has a problem with file mode: My original file (test.php) has the following mode using ls -l: -rwx--+. test.php after I edit it with xemacs, it generated a file called test.php~, which is like an exact copy of the old file, but the original file mode changed, ls -l showed: -rwx- .. test.php -rwx-+ .. test.php~ Now I have some questions: 1. What is the '+' in the file mode? I know it has something to do with file permission, after the editing, my web server/PHP does not have permission to open test.php anymore 2. How do I set the '+' in mode manually? I used 'fstat' on the two files and it shows the exact same mode (o100700). 3. Why xemacs changed the file mode? Could it be because of different file system? Thanks for any help. Yufeng -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: PCYMTNQREAIYR
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 LarrysPCRemediesataoldotcom wrote: Igor, How do I go about configuring my mailer to no quote raw-e-mail addresses if I'm using Outlook? I could find no configuration option related to this. I understand the need (i.e., e-mail address picker-uppers, etc), I'm just curious which e-mail mailer(s) has this wondrous option. Larry Well, for starters, you could try setting it to wrap long lines... :-) Also, see http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-03/msg00910.html. BTW, since you don't have your realname set, pine, at least, automatically quotes the e-mail address, and I have to modify it by hand (which I sometimes forget to do). The usual understanding is that if realname is set, that's the name that should be used in replies. This may be a view that's too pine-centric. Igor In PINE something like this should qoute the realname if it's there otherwise just the username part of email address: reply-leadin=On _DAYDATE_, _FROM_(_ADDRESS_, _MAILBOX_, _FROM_) wrote: P.S. I understand the frustration -- searching the web for this is a pain. Greg -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: PCYMTNQREAIYR
Here is an illustration of the previous post about configuring PINE. Just LarrysPCRemedies is quoted. On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, LarrysPCRemedies wrote: Igor, How do I go about configuring my mailer to no quote raw-e-mail addresses if I'm using Outlook? I could find no configuration option related to this. I understand the need (i.e., e-mail address picker-uppers, etc), I'm just curious which e-mail mailer(s) has this wondrous option. Larry -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
How to set other languages in Emacs mule?
Hi, I am trying to read and type Korean chracters in emacs, and could anyone tell me how? It's for a Korean Parser, and the input sentences are, of course, Korean. I'd like to read and type Korean characters in XWin shell, and in emacs too. Please help. Thank you in advance. David -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: strange install problems
-Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Erik Weibust Sent: 01 April 2004 15:32 I'm not sure what or why it's trying to do with an h: drive. I have a local c and d drive, and I have i and s network drives, and a z samba mount. I did have an h drive in the past, but with the uninstall I performed I don't know why it would be a problem now. Any ideas? Because it's still referred to in an environment variable somewhere? Also, I didn't see a /home/$USER ? Could this be because of the problems I listed above? It couldn't create the /etc/group or /etc/passwd files, because for some reason it was trying to do so on the non-existent H drive; this in turn means that cygwin's notion of what your username and/or group are must be in a mess; it also suggests that you've got an environment variable which cygwin is importing and trying to use to set as your home directory or something. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP
I was wondering about that, myself, recently. According to the fileutils/ls info page: Following the permission bits is a single character that specifies whether an alternate access method applies to the file. When that character is a space, there is no alternate access method. When it is a printing character (e.g., `+'), then there is such a method. Since alternate access methods are, as I understand it, under control of Windows, this may be off-topic: For my general education, I'd also be interested in what the alternate access method, how one can set it, and how one might use it. Since + moves from test.php to test.php~, xemacs evidently renames test.php to test.php~ before saving the modified file under the original name (test.php). - Barry -Original Message- From: Yufeng Xiong Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP Hi All, I'm using the xemacs comes with Cygwin on WindowXP for file editing, but it has a problem with file mode: My original file (test.php) has the following mode using ls -l: -rwx--+. test.php after I edit it with xemacs, it generated a file called test.php~, which is like an exact copy of the old file, but the original file mode changed, ls -l showed: -rwx- .. test.php -rwx-+ .. test.php~ Now I have some questions: 1. What is the '+' in the file mode? I know it has something to do with file permission, after the editing, my web server/PHP does not have permission to open test.php anymore 2. How do I set the '+' in mode manually? I used 'fstat' on the two files and it shows the exact same mode (o100700). 3. Why xemacs changed the file mode? Could it be because of different file system? Thanks for any help. Yufeng -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: strange install problems
Dave, Where might those ENV settings be hiding? Any ideas? I followed the uninstall instructions exactly. Erik --- Dave Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Erik Weibust Sent: 01 April 2004 15:32 I'm not sure what or why it's trying to do with an h: drive. I have a local c and d drive, and I have i and s network drives, and a z samba mount. I did have an h drive in the past, but with the uninstall I performed I don't know why it would be a problem now. Any ideas? Because it's still referred to in an environment variable somewhere? Also, I didn't see a /home/$USER ? Could this be because of the problems I listed above? It couldn't create the /etc/group or /etc/passwd files, because for some reason it was trying to do so on the non-existent H drive; this in turn means that cygwin's notion of what your username and/or group are must be in a mess; it also suggests that you've got an environment variable which cygwin is importing and trying to use to set as your home directory or something. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP
Yufeng Xiong wrote: 1. What is the '+' in the file mode? I know it has something to do with file permission, after the editing, my web server/PHP does not have permission to open test.php anymore I believe the + indicates that there are some Windows permissions that do not map to the Unix-style user/group/other. For example, if I create a new file using cygwin (say, with touch), and then open the file's properties with Windows and explicitly add permission for another user to modify the file, I see the +. 2. How do I set the '+' in mode manually? I used 'fstat' on the two files and it shows the exact same mode (o100700). Well, you can copy all the file attributes from one file (sourceFile) to another (destFile) with a command like this: % getfacl - sourceFile | setfacl -f- destFile 3. Why xemacs changed the file mode? Could it be because of different file system? Do M-x customize-apropros on backup-by-copying. The default behavior is to move the old file to the backup file and then create a new file. If you set this option on (non-nil), the backup copy will be made as a copy and the original file will be modified. This will preserve the extra file permissions on the original file (although the backup copy won't have them). HTH, Dave -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: strange install problems
-Original Message- From: Erik Weibust Sent: 01 April 2004 16:11 Dave, Where might those ENV settings be hiding? Any ideas? I followed the uninstall instructions exactly. Erik These are your windoze environment vars I'm referring to; you can see them by right clicking on the My Computer icon and choosing Properties from the menu; on the Advanced tab of the properties there should be a button that says Environment variables. Click that and you should see them appear, listed in two groups, one of overall settings for the entire machine and one of per-user settings just for you. Have a good look through them to see if any refer to H: cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Souldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
I got mails from both two groups:cygwin, and cygXwin. It's sometimes confusing. Don't we need to seperate one from the other by putting a head into Subject, for example, [cygwin] vs. [cygXwin]? Just an opinion, as a beginner ^^ David -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: strange install problems
Dave, I'm very familiar with setting Env vars in windows. I checked that. Nothing there. Then I opened a cmd prompt and ran set | more and found this: HOMEDRIVE=H: HOMEPATH=\ HOMESHARE=\\dalfss02\erikweibust$ Those vars aren't visible through the My Computer gui view? Any idea where they are being set or how to change them? Thanks --- Dave Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Erik Weibust Sent: 01 April 2004 16:11 Dave, Where might those ENV settings be hiding? Any ideas? I followed the uninstall instructions exactly. Erik These are your windoze environment vars I'm referring to; you can see them by right clicking on the My Computer icon and choosing Properties from the menu; on the Advanced tab of the properties there should be a button that says Environment variables. Click that and you should see them appear, listed in two groups, one of overall settings for the entire machine and one of per-user settings just for you. Have a good look through them to see if any refer to H: cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Souldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
-Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of David I got mails from both two groups:cygwin, and cygXwin. Well, that's because you're on two completely different mailing lists. It's sometimes confusing. You're very easily confused then. Why don't you set up your mailer to sort them into different folders? Don't we need to seperate one from the other by putting a head into Subject, for example, [cygwin] vs. [cygXwin]? What on earth is the use of putting a tag in the subject line when it only pointlessly duplicates information that is already in the From/To lines: From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of . and when there's presumably many people who are only on one list. You could always just learn how to set up mail-sorting rules in your email program, rather than expect everyone else to suddenly start doing things your way just to save you the five minutes of effort it would take you to sort your own problem out. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: strange install problems
-Original Message- From: Erik Weibust Sent: 01 April 2004 16:28 Dave, I'm very familiar with setting Env vars in windows. I checked that. Nothing there. Then I opened a cmd prompt and ran set | more and found this: HOMEDRIVE=H: HOMEPATH=\ HOMESHARE=\\dalfss02\erikweibust$ Those vars aren't visible through the My Computer gui view? Any idea where they are being set or how to change them? Hmm... you'll be interested by this thread in the ml-archive: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2004-03/msg01280.html I'm not sure where it's coming from. Are you running Novell Netware? cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP
On Apr 1 07:15, David Rothenberger wrote: Yufeng Xiong wrote: 1. What is the '+' in the file mode? I know it has something to do with file permission, after the editing, my web server/PHP does not have permission to open test.php anymore I believe the + indicates that there are some Windows permissions that do not map to the Unix-style user/group/other. For example, if I create Not quite right. Posix allows additional permissions as well. The '+' is documented in the ls man page btw. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Red Hat, Inc. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: cygwin... from Turkey
Hi, Sinan, Please don't send personal mail with Cygwin questions unless specifically requested. All Cygwin-related queries should go to an appropriate Cygwin mailing list (see http://cygwin.com/lists.html). The lists can also be accessed as newsgroups via http://gmane.org/ (see the Unofficial newsgroup link on the Cygwin homepage). That way not only do you get access to the combined expertise of the community, which is more than any one person can provide, but your query and the answers also get into the archives, where they could be later found by others with the same problem. For your convenience, I'm directing this reply to the main Cygwin mailing list, and setting the Reply-To: field accordingly. Please send any follow-up messages to the mailing list. More replies inline below. On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Sinan Yalcin wrote: hello.. I took your mail address from cygwin.com.. I am a graduate student at Sabanci University, Turkey.. I want to ask a question to you about cygwin package installation.. I will be glad if you can answer... During installation, I chose all packages(full) installation. But, 4 packages were absent at the intranet server of our university: these were... libdb2 The Sleepycat Berkeley DB Library v2 - runtime libdb2-devel ... The Sleepycat Berkeley DB Library v2 - devel libdb3.1.. The Sleepycat Berkeley DB Library v3.1 - runtime libdb3.1-devel..The Sleepycat Berkeley DB Library v3.1 - devel libltdl3 Libtool's dynamic loader (runtime) So, I unchecked only above packages from full installation and completed the installation successfully... I want to ask you what those unchecked packages are, and whether any problems their absence cause or not.. Thank you very much... As far as I know, Berkeley DB is required by some other packages, e.g., cvs. Explicitly unchecking them will mean that you essentially override the dependencies from other packages, and those packages will probably not work. If your server doesn't have them, then it's a broken mirror, and you would be well advised to select another one. Also, for the future, the best way to report the state of your Cygwin installation is by attaching (as an uncompressed text attachment, not inline) the output of cygcheck -svr, as requested in the Cygwin problem reporting guidelines at http://cygwin.com/problems.html (a good read in any case). Also I want to mention that, I faced with g++3 iostream (cout, main(), etc...) problem, and solved by your existing mail (using namespace std;).. I want to ask that: is this solution must for all .cpp files for g++3, and do I face with any more problems about g++3? which version of g++ does not have such problems? and what is the latest version of g++? To find out which packages are available in Cygwin, see the Cygwin package list/search page at http://cygwin.com/packages/. The using namespace std; approach is just one of the possible fixes (another would be to prefix all occurrences of cout and others by std::), and it will be necessary everywhere due to the more stringent syntax of g++-3.*. Thanks a lot for your help... On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Sinan Yalcin wrote: Pardon.. I forgat to say that: By full installation of cygwin, my download folder is 250MB, and installed folder is 870MB... Isn't it too much? Is there too much unnecessary applications? I have seen 170MB installed folder.. Thank you... With my best regards I suggest looking at the package descriptions to find out which ones you do and don't need. It's generally advised to install at least the Base category (which is selected by default in new installations) and then select individual packages that you feel you will need. Setup should automatically select other packages that the ones you selected depend on, but it doesn't check these dependencies once the selection is made, so don't unselect anything once you've selected it (or start over if you feel you've made a mistake). See also http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_2.html#SEC13. HTH, Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route to the bathroom is a major career booster. -- Patrick Naughton -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Changing jobs
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Mar 31 20:20, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:08:30 -0500, Christopher Faylor cgf-no-personal-reply-pleaseatcygwindotcom said: I just wanted to send a brief note to inform everyone that today is my last day at Red Hat. I have accepted a position with TimeSys Corporation. As if you expect us to believe that! Clearly you were forced out by stockholders due to Cygwin's poor fiscal performance. Lucky for you you found a new job quick. Yay, CGF! Corinna Vinschen has volunteered to be the official Red Hat maintainer for Cygwin. So, she'll be involved with any special cygwin licensing issues (she gets all of the distasteful stuff). Corinna and I will be co-project leads for Cygwin. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the lawyers of your enemies! I hope both of you enjoy your postions. I hope that as well, thanks. I want to take the opportunity of being in charge now for my first really official action: Igor, could you please give Chris 20 gold stars for his good work on Cygwin for the past 7 years and being mean only when it's absolutely necessary? Done. Why only 20 you're asking? Well, Chris is leaving Red Hat, so I had to hold back the other 480 as a punishment, of course. You mean the other 480 aren't fully vested yet? ;-) Igor Thanks, Corinna -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route to the bathroom is a major career booster. -- Patrick Naughton -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP
Thanks David for the help. The getfacl/setfacl command works fine. And the setting change in xmeacs also works. I'm using WindowsXP @Home, it does not seem to have anything available for changing file permissions from Windows itself, does anybody know how to do it ? Thanks. - Original Message - From: David Rothenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Yufeng Xiong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:15 AM Subject: Re: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP Yufeng Xiong wrote: 1. What is the '+' in the file mode? I know it has something to do with file permission, after the editing, my web server/PHP does not have permission to open test.php anymore I believe the + indicates that there are some Windows permissions that do not map to the Unix-style user/group/other. For example, if I create a new file using cygwin (say, with touch), and then open the file's properties with Windows and explicitly add permission for another user to modify the file, I see the +. 2. How do I set the '+' in mode manually? I used 'fstat' on the two files and it shows the exact same mode (o100700). Well, you can copy all the file attributes from one file (sourceFile) to another (destFile) with a command like this: % getfacl - sourceFile | setfacl -f- destFile 3. Why xemacs changed the file mode? Could it be because of different file system? Do M-x customize-apropros on backup-by-copying. The default behavior is to move the old file to the backup file and then create a new file. If you set this option on (non-nil), the backup copy will be made as a copy and the original file will be modified. This will preserve the extra file permissions on the original file (although the backup copy won't have them). HTH, Dave -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Shouldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
I've been using Outlook Express, and it doesn't seem that I can sort mails to different folders. I can? If so, would you tell me how? I need to read/write Korean fully, so I did not try other mail clients before. I think most of the mail clients can cover foreign languages now, but at this time, it may be inefficient to move to other mailer. Anyway, I'm on several mailing lists with this email acount, and I thought it would be good if cygwin has a similiar mark as others do unless, as you pointed out, I can sort them. Thank you. David - Original Message - From: Dave Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:30 AM Subject: RE: Souldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question? -Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of David I got mails from both two groups:cygwin, and cygXwin. Well, that's because you're on two completely different mailing lists. It's sometimes confusing. You're very easily confused then. Why don't you set up your mailer to sort them into different folders? Don't we need to seperate one from the other by putting a head into Subject, for example, [cygwin] vs. [cygXwin]? What on earth is the use of putting a tag in the subject line when it only pointlessly duplicates information that is already in the From/To lines: From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of . and when there's presumably many people who are only on one list. You could always just learn how to set up mail-sorting rules in your email program, rather than expect everyone else to suddenly start doing things your way just to save you the five minutes of effort it would take you to sort your own problem out. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP
Thanks David for the help. The getfacl/setfacl command works fine. And the setting change in xmeacs also works. I'm using WindowsXP @Home, it does not seem to have anything available for changing file permissions from Windows itself, does anybody know how to do it ? Thanks. - Original Message - From: David Rothenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Yufeng Xiong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:15 AM Subject: Re: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP Yufeng Xiong wrote: 1. What is the '+' in the file mode? I know it has something to do with file permission, after the editing, my web server/PHP does not have permission to open test.php anymore I believe the + indicates that there are some Windows permissions that do not map to the Unix-style user/group/other. For example, if I create a new file using cygwin (say, with touch), and then open the file's properties with Windows and explicitly add permission for another user to modify the file, I see the +. 2. How do I set the '+' in mode manually? I used 'fstat' on the two files and it shows the exact same mode (o100700). Well, you can copy all the file attributes from one file (sourceFile) to another (destFile) with a command like this: % getfacl - sourceFile | setfacl -f- destFile 3. Why xemacs changed the file mode? Could it be because of different file system? Do M-x customize-apropros on backup-by-copying. The default behavior is to move the old file to the backup file and then create a new file. If you set this option on (non-nil), the backup copy will be made as a copy and the original file will be modified. This will preserve the extra file permissions on the original file (although the backup copy won't have them). HTH, Dave -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: german characters
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Markus R. wrote: Hi together, I have read many articles in the newsgroup and studied the FAQ on the cygwin homepage to enable german characters in the bash. But I didn't find a solution. I have a fresh cygwin install on my system. I have created a '.inputrc' in my home directory with the following entries: set meta-flag on set convert-meta off set output-meta on How about also adding set input-meta on? Also, do you see '\366' from *bash*, or *ls*? If it's ls, alias ls to ls --show-control-chars. I'd also suggest aliasing less to less -R... Igor the file permissions are read, write and execute for everybody (only for test purpose). Now when I open my bash I get '\366' for an 'o' and '\344' for an 'a' and so on. When I type 'cat' then I can enter german character 'o' 'a' and so on. When I delete the .inputrc file then I can't see nothing when I type a german character like 'o','a' and so on. This seems for me that the .inputrc file is read by a bash execute. Any ideas?? It's really confusing Kind regards Markus -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route to the bathroom is a major career booster. -- Patrick Naughton -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: PCYMTNQREAIYR
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Gregory Borota wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 LarrysPCRemediesataoldotcom wrote: Igor, How do I go about configuring my mailer to no quote raw-e-mail addresses if I'm using Outlook? I could find no configuration option related to this. I understand the need (i.e., e-mail address picker-uppers, etc), I'm just curious which e-mail mailer(s) has this wondrous option. Larry Well, for starters, you could try setting it to wrap long lines... :-) Also, see http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-03/msg00910.html. BTW, since you don't have your realname set, pine, at least, automatically quotes the e-mail address, and I have to modify it by hand (which I sometimes forget to do). The usual understanding is that if realname is set, that's the name that should be used in replies. This may be a view that's too pine-centric. Igor In PINE something like this should qoute the realname if it's there otherwise just the username part of email address: reply-leadin=On _DAYDATE_, _FROM_(_ADDRESS_, _MAILBOX_, _FROM_) wrote: P.S. I understand the frustration -- searching the web for this is a pain. Greg I didn't know that. Pretty cool, thanks! Igor P.S. With all the messages with this subject, now I just have to add it to the OLOCA! :-) -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route to the bathroom is a major career booster. -- Patrick Naughton -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP
Yufeng Xiong wrote: I'm using WindowsXP @Home, it does not seem to have anything available for changing file permissions from Windows itself, does anybody know how to do it ? You have to turn off simple file sharing. It's under the View tab of the Folder Options. Search in WinXP help for simple file sharing for more info. Dave -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP
On Apr 1 11:12, Yufeng Xiong wrote: Thanks David for the help. The getfacl/setfacl command works fine. And the setting change in xmeacs also works. I'm using WindowsXP @Home, it does not seem to have anything available for changing file permissions from Windows itself, does anybody know how to do it ? Isn't the command line tool cacls also delivered with XP Home? You can do a lot of stuff on the home edition using command line tools which aren't available to GUI-only users. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Red Hat, Inc. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: strange install problems
At 10:33 AM 4/1/2004, you wrote: -Original Message- From: Erik Weibust Sent: 01 April 2004 16:28 Dave, I'm very familiar with setting Env vars in windows. I checked that. Nothing there. Then I opened a cmd prompt and ran set | more and found this: HOMEDRIVE=H: HOMEPATH=\ HOMESHARE=\\dalfss02\erikweibust$ Those vars aren't visible through the My Computer gui view? Any idea where they are being set or how to change them? Hmm... you'll be interested by this thread in the ml-archive: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2004-03/msg01280.html I'm not sure where it's coming from. Are you running Novell Netware? These settings come directly from Windows. Erik is apparently picking up H as his home drive as a result of settings on his domain. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Postgres Backend doesn't catch the next command, after SIGUSR2
On Mar 31 22:36, Patrick Samson wrote:
if (!CancelIo ((HANDLE) socket))
{...}
else
{
if (WSAGetOverlappedResult (socket, ovr, len,
FALSE, flags) len != 0)
ret = (int) len;
else WSASetLastError (WSAEINTR);
Did you try it?
Yes. It worked.
I ran my test case this night for 3 runs.
Yesterday I changed Cygwin to use
asynchronous I/O
instead of overlapped I/O so it now can do without
CancelIo.
However, two people reported hangs which don't occur
for me. If
if takes too long to track down, I guess I'll revert
to overlapped
I/O plus your patch. But I would be more happy with
a working
async I/O solution.
Is it still worth?
We're still experimenting with async I/O but there's perhaps a point
where reverting to overlapped makes sense. I'm glad to have your
patch for that case.
Thanks,
Corinna
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Re: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP
On Apr 1 08:20, David Rothenberger wrote: Yufeng Xiong wrote: I'm using WindowsXP @Home, it does not seem to have anything available for changing file permissions from Windows itself, does anybody know how to do it ? You have to turn off simple file sharing. It's under the View tab of the Folder Options. Search in WinXP help for simple file sharing for more info. AFAIK, XP home has *only* simple file sharing. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Red Hat, Inc. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP
XP Home hides the permissions and doesn't provide a GUI tool for manipulating them. If you search the web, you can find folks that claim they have been successful at restoring the XP Pro Security tab to the GUI by playing some games with service packs from NT4. But that's a different matter. Larry At 11:12 AM 4/1/2004, you wrote: Thanks David for the help. The getfacl/setfacl command works fine. And the setting change in xmeacs also works. I'm using WindowsXP @Home, it does not seem to have anything available for changing file permissions from Windows itself, does anybody know how to do it ? Thanks. - Original Message - From: David Rothenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Yufeng Xiong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:15 AM Subject: Re: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP Yufeng Xiong wrote: 1. What is the '+' in the file mode? I know it has something to do with file permission, after the editing, my web server/PHP does not have permission to open test.php anymore I believe the + indicates that there are some Windows permissions that do not map to the Unix-style user/group/other. For example, if I create a new file using cygwin (say, with touch), and then open the file's properties with Windows and explicitly add permission for another user to modify the file, I see the +. 2. How do I set the '+' in mode manually? I used 'fstat' on the two files and it shows the exact same mode (o100700). Well, you can copy all the file attributes from one file (sourceFile) to another (destFile) with a command like this: % getfacl - sourceFile | setfacl -f- destFile 3. Why xemacs changed the file mode? Could it be because of different file system? Do M-x customize-apropros on backup-by-copying. The default behavior is to move the old file to the backup file and then create a new file. If you set this option on (non-nil), the backup copy will be made as a copy and the original file will be modified. This will preserve the extra file permissions on the original file (although the backup copy won't have them). HTH, Dave -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP
I hate MS for this matter, why they have to have a Home version and a Pro version, it's all money related! - Original Message - From: Larry Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Yufeng Xiong [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Rothenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:19 AM Subject: Re: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP XP Home hides the permissions and doesn't provide a GUI tool for manipulating them. If you search the web, you can find folks that claim they have been successful at restoring the XP Pro Security tab to the GUI by playing some games with service packs from NT4. But that's a different matter. Larry At 11:12 AM 4/1/2004, you wrote: Thanks David for the help. The getfacl/setfacl command works fine. And the setting change in xmeacs also works. I'm using WindowsXP @Home, it does not seem to have anything available for changing file permissions from Windows itself, does anybody know how to do it ? Thanks. - Original Message - From: David Rothenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Yufeng Xiong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:15 AM Subject: Re: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP Yufeng Xiong wrote: 1. What is the '+' in the file mode? I know it has something to do with file permission, after the editing, my web server/PHP does not have permission to open test.php anymore I believe the + indicates that there are some Windows permissions that do not map to the Unix-style user/group/other. For example, if I create a new file using cygwin (say, with touch), and then open the file's properties with Windows and explicitly add permission for another user to modify the file, I see the +. 2. How do I set the '+' in mode manually? I used 'fstat' on the two files and it shows the exact same mode (o100700). Well, you can copy all the file attributes from one file (sourceFile) to another (destFile) with a command like this: % getfacl - sourceFile | setfacl -f- destFile 3. Why xemacs changed the file mode? Could it be because of different file system? Do M-x customize-apropros on backup-by-copying. The default behavior is to move the old file to the backup file and then create a new file. If you set this option on (non-nil), the backup copy will be made as a copy and the original file will be modified. This will preserve the extra file permissions on the original file (although the backup copy won't have them). HTH, Dave -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP
If you reboot into Safe Mode, the security tab becomes available. Graucsh Yufeng Xiong wrote: Thanks David for the help. The getfacl/setfacl command works fine. And the setting change in xmeacs also works. I'm using WindowsXP @Home, it does not seem to have anything available for changing file permissions from Windows itself, does anybody know how to do it ? Thanks. - Original Message - From: David Rothenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Yufeng Xiong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:15 AM Subject: Re: Questions on cygwin filemode in WindowsXP Yufeng Xiong wrote: 1. What is the '+' in the file mode? I know it has something to do with file permission, after the editing, my web server/PHP does not have permission to open test.php anymore I believe the + indicates that there are some Windows permissions that do not map to the Unix-style user/group/other. For example, if I create a new file using cygwin (say, with touch), and then open the file's properties with Windows and explicitly add permission for another user to modify the file, I see the +. 2. How do I set the '+' in mode manually? I used 'fstat' on the two files and it shows the exact same mode (o100700). Well, you can copy all the file attributes from one file (sourceFile) to another (destFile) with a command like this: % getfacl - sourceFile | setfacl -f- destFile 3. Why xemacs changed the file mode? Could it be because of different file system? Do M-x customize-apropros on backup-by-copying. The default behavior is to move the old file to the backup file and then create a new file. If you set this option on (non-nil), the backup copy will be made as a copy and the original file will be modified. This will preserve the extra file permissions on the original file (although the backup copy won't have them). HTH, Dave -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Shouldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
-Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of David Sent: 01 April 2004 17:12 I've been using Outlook Express, and it doesn't seem that I can sort mails to different folders. I can? Yes. If so, would you tell me how? You see the Tools item on the menu bar? You see the entry under it that says Message Rules? Now why on earth couldn't you work that out yourself? There's a Help option on your copy of OE, isn't there? You know how to use Google, don't you? It seems you didn't even bother to put the tiniest amount of effort into it or spend even one second thinking about it or trying things out for yourself. I'm not your mum, and nor is anyone else on the list, so why do you expect us to spoon-feed you? And why are you asking for advice on how to operate Microsoft mailing packages on a cygwin related list? This topic has *nothing* to do with cygwin. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Shouldn't we put or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
* David (2004-04-01 18:12 +0100) I've been using Outlook Express, and it doesn't seem that I can sort mails to different folders. Use a different mail client. I can? If so, would you tell me how? F1 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Aspell - Ispell
Gareth Pearce wrote: It should be relatively easy to write a very simple script called ispell which calls 'aspell -a $@' I think that works at least... can't say I've tried it. Such a script exists: /usr/share/aspell/ispell An obvious way to make it available to programs would be: cd /usr/bin ln -s /usr/share/aspell/ispell ispell Andreas. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Shouldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
1) I understand what you feel. But, as I put, it doesn't seem that I can sort mails to different folders., I tried, and I realized that I could not make it at all. It turned out that it's impossible to do that with this email account. 2) I'm still trying to read/write Korean characters, and I made it for cygwin, but cygXwin. I searched web and the mailing list, and there is no clear information on it, and I could not figure it out well yet. If you can, please help. Thank you. David - Original Message - From: Dave Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:10 AM Subject: RE: Shouldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question? -Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of David Sent: 01 April 2004 17:12 I've been using Outlook Express, and it doesn't seem that I can sort mails to different folders. I can? Yes. If so, would you tell me how? You see the Tools item on the menu bar? You see the entry under it that says Message Rules? Now why on earth couldn't you work that out yourself? There's a Help option on your copy of OE, isn't there? You know how to use Google, don't you? It seems you didn't even bother to put the tiniest amount of effort into it or spend even one second thinking about it or trying things out for yourself. I'm not your mum, and nor is anyone else on the list, so why do you expect us to spoon-feed you? And why are you asking for advice on how to operate Microsoft mailing packages on a cygwin related list? This topic has *nothing* to do with cygwin. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Shouldn't we put [Cygwin] or [CygXwin] here depending on the question?
-Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of David Sent: 01 April 2004 18:54 1) I understand what you feel. No, you don't. But, as I put, it doesn't seem that I can sort mails to different folders., I tried, and I realized that I could not make it at all. It turned out that [SNIPFLUSH] This is still nothing to do with cygwin. Bye. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
