Problems with localization

[Eugene Kotlyarov]

Hello
  I want to see localized messages from cygwin programs.
I've set environment variables LANG=ru_RU.CP1251 and OUTPUT_CHARSET=CP1251.
While most programs work with such settings some of them do not, namely grep 
and programs from binutils package. They understand language part of LANG 
variable, but don't understand charset.
Could this be fixed?
grep can be fixed by recompiling with newer version of libintl, but I don't 
know about binutils.


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Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Andrew DeFaria]

Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
Cygwin already provides the content.
Accidentally, and without the knowledge or consent of the user.
Bull. It is not installed by default. The user must select it, thus 
that's his consent.

You have almost completely misstated my argument. Allow me to restate 
it in convenient bullet-list form:

- The limericks in question could realistically get somebody fired or 
sued.
Nonsense. The fortune files exist on the computer. The only beef that an 
employer could have would have to result in that employer looking for 
trouble.

- I am realistically one of the many parties that could conceivably 
get sued.
Only if you wish to download fortune and take the things you find 
offensive and shove it onto the faces of others in the workplace. The 
same thing could be done with pencil and paper I might add. Perhaps we 
should band these offensive things too!

- Red Hat is even more realistically one of the many parties that 
could conceivably get sued.
Anybody could conceivably get sued because guess what? You can sue 
anybody. Not, again, winning that suit is an entirely different matter.

- The limericks in question are installed without the knowledge or 
consent of the installer.
Again bull. Gary you know that they are not installed by default, that 
the installer must consciously choose to install it. There is even 
suitable warnings in the manual and the user must also use -o (assuming 
the bug mentioned here is fixed). Given all that how can you say that 
this is installed without the knowledge or consent of the installer?

- The limericks in question are of interest only to 
junior-highschool-age sysadmins and lawyers.
Again bull. I'm not junior-high school aged nor are many others here who 
disagree with your POV.

- Redacting the limericks in question from Cygwin will eliminate the 
risk they cause.
Redacting all .exe would also eliminate any bugs. It is likewise as stupid.
- Redacting the limericks in question from Cygwin has no realistic 
chance of destroying Western democracies or throwing the world into an 
oppressive Stalinist nightmare.
We're not interested in any of that.
You could download the source and build it yourself. Just like you 
could with all the software which isn't provided in the Cygwin distro. 
Most of which contains no questionable material.
Just as you can refrain from installing or running this optional package.
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Re: Problem with 20050106 snapshot

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 03:06:21PM -0800, David Rothenberger wrote:
Content-Description: message body text
>I'm having a problem with the 20050106 snapshot as well as my own
>DLL build from CVS HEAD on 20050107. I've also seen these problems
>in snapshots from late last year. I've just now isolated a small
>test case.
>
>The problem is with bash killing native processes. I have a bash
>script that starts a native process in the background, installs a
>signal handler for SIGINT, grabs the pid from the background
>process, and then issues wait. The signal handler tries to kill the
>pid that was captured.
>
>With 1.5.12 and a DLL built from CVS on 11/19/2004, this works just
>fine. With the latest snapshot, I often (but not always) get a "Bad
>file descriptor" error from kill.
>
>I've enclosed a C file with the source for a simple program that
>sleeps for the time specified on the command-line. I compiled this
>as a WIN32 application using
>
>  % gcc -o sleepMingw -mno-cygwin sleepMingw.c
>
>I've also enclosed the driver script sleepTest.sh.
>
>Here's the output from one run:
>

I modified the script as attached and ran it for about ten or fifteen
minutes and didn't see this behavior but, unless I'm missing something,
I don't see how this would ever work reliably, though, since, if you're
hitting CTRL-C in a console window, it will be propagated to all
subprocesses.  Cygwin processes know how to deal with this but mingw
processes don't and will just catch the CTRL-C and do what a windows
console process would normally do.  In this case what they'd normally do
is exit.  The "file not found" error code is a little odd in this case,
though.  I tightened up some of the errno setting and will be checking
in some new code to deal with some problems that Pierre found with
windows processes, soon.

The loop I used was:

while ./sleepTest.sh 60; do :; done

it never exited.

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Re: sshd on XP Home: "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"

[Larry Hall]

At 05:48 PM 1/8/2005, you wrote:
>I've been working on getting sshd working on my XP Home SP1 box but I've
>run into a problem I can't get past.  sshd is running as a daemon but
>won't allow me to connect to it.
>
>Starting with updated versions of all installed cygwin packaged
>including a clean openssh 3.9p1-2 install (no /etc/ssh* or ~/.ssh, sshd
>removed from /etc/passwd, "net user sshd /del"), here's how I set it up.
>I was logged in as "Ernie", which has Administrator privs:
>
>==
>
>% ssh-host-config -y
>Generating /etc/ssh_host_key
>Generating /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key
>Generating /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key
>Generating /etc/ssh_config file
>Privilege separation is set to yes by default since OpenSSH 3.3.
>However, this requires a non-privileged account called 'sshd'.
>For more info on privilege separation read 
>/usr/share/doc/openssh/README.privsep.
>
>Should privilege separation be used? (yes/no) yes
>Generating /etc/sshd_config file
>
>Warning: The following functions require administrator privileges!
>
>Do you want to install sshd as service?
>(Say "no" if it's already installed as service) (yes/no) yes
>
>Which value should the environment variable CYGWIN have when
>sshd starts? It's recommended to set at least "ntsec" to be
>able to change user context without password.
>Default is "ntsec".  CYGWIN=ntsec tty
>
>The service has been installed under LocalSystem account.
>To start the service, call `net start sshd' or `cygrunsrv -S sshd'.
>
>Host configuration finished. Have fun!


>>>

>% net user sshd /add /homedir:d:\\cygwin\\var\\empty /active:no
>The command completed successfully.
>
>% mkpasswd -l -u sshd | sed -e 's/bash/false/' >> /etc/passwd
>
>% grep "^sshd:" /etc/passwd
>sshd:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1010:513:U-SLEEPWALK\sshd,S-1-5-21-1482476501-1682526488-854245398-1010:/var/empty:/bin/false
>
>% echo "" > /var/log/sshd.log
>
>% chown SYSTEM:SYSTEM /etc/ssh* /var/empty /var/log/sshd.log /var/log/lastlog


<<

I'm confused.  Why are you redoing stuff that the script you just ran did
for you?  You're setting ownerships here that are different than the 
'ssh-host-config' script.  This isn't a good idea generally.  What's the 
reason for doing it?  


>% ssh-user-config
>Shall I create an SSH1 RSA identity file for you? (yes/no) no
>Shall I create an SSH2 RSA identity file for you? (yes/no)  (yes/no) yes
>Generating /home/Ernie/.ssh/id_rsa
>Enter passphrase (empty for no passphrase): 
>Enter same passphrase again: 
>Do you want to use this identity to login to this machine? (yes/no) yes
>Adding to /home/Ernie/.ssh/authorized_keys
>Shall I create an SSH2 DSA identity file for you? (yes/no)  (yes/no) yes
>Generating /home/Ernie/.ssh/id_dsa
>Enter passphrase (empty for no passphrase): 
>Enter same passphrase again: 
>Do you want to use this identity to login to this machine? (yes/no) yes
>Adding to /home/Ernie/.ssh/authorized_keys
>
>Configuration finished. Have fun!
>
>% ls -l /etc/ssh*
>-rwxr-x---  1 SYSTEM Administrators 1159 Jan  8 14:24 /etc/ssh_config
>-rw---  1 SYSTEM Administrators  668 Jan  8 14:24 /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key
>-rw-r--r--  1 SYSTEM Administrators  605 Jan  8 14:24 /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub
>-rw---  1 SYSTEM Administrators  530 Jan  8 14:24 /etc/ssh_host_key
>-rw-r--r--  1 SYSTEM Administrators  334 Jan  8 14:24 /etc/ssh_host_key.pub
>-rw---  1 SYSTEM Administrators  887 Jan  8 14:24 /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key
>-rw-r--r--  1 SYSTEM Administrators  225 Jan  8 14:24 /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub
>-rw-r--r--  1 SYSTEM Administrators 2807 Jan  8 14:24 /etc/sshd_config
  ^^^
So it looks like the 'chown' you did above didn't work right anyway.  That's
suspicious.


>% ls -l ~/.ssh
>total 6
>-rw---+ 1 Ernie None 830 Jan  8 14:26 authorized_keys
>-rw---  1 Ernie None 668 Jan  8 14:26 id_dsa
>-rw-r--r--  1 Ernie None 605 Jan  8 14:26 id_dsa.pub
>-rw---  1 Ernie None 883 Jan  8 14:26 id_rsa
>-rw-r--r--  1 Ernie None 225 Jan  8 14:26 id_rsa.pub
>-rw-r--r--  1 Ernie None 236 Jan  8 14:29 known_hosts
>
>% cygrunsrv -S sshd
>
>[ sshd is up and running at this point ]
>
>% ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host

This could be due to ownership problems from above.

>% cygrunsrv -E sshd
>
>% chown Ernie:None /etc/ssh* /var/empty /var/log/sshd.log /var/log/lastlog
>
>% /usr/sbin/sshd -d -d -d
>debug2: load_server_config: filename /etc/sshd_config
>debug2: load_server_config: done config len = 187
>debug2: parse_server_config: config /etc/sshd_config len 187
>debug1: sshd version OpenSSH_3.9p1
>debug1: private host key: #0 type 0 RSA1
>debug3: Not a RSA1 key file /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key.
>debug1: read PEM private key done: type RSA
>debug1: private host key: #1 type 1 RSA
>debug3: Not a RSA1 key file /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key.
>debug1: read PEM private key done: type DSA
>debug1: private host key: #2 type 2 DSA
>debug1: rexec_argv[0]='/usr/sbin

Re: Cygwin installation failure problem

[Max Bowsher]

Larry Hall wrote:
At 03:53 PM 1/8/2005, you wrote:

This looks like a good confirmation.  Time to move 2.457.2.1 into the
mainstream?
Yes, please!  Max?
I agree.
I encountered a permissions problem on the server trying to put the new file 
into place - I've emailed about it.

Max.
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RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

> -Original Message-
> From: Volker Bandke
> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 4:03 PM
> To: Gary R. Van Sickle
> Subject: RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[snip]
> >But why aren't you putting fortune-o's in your siggy as well?
> 
> I am not?  
[snip]

No, you are not.  Why is that?  In your estimation, these limericks aren't
offensive.  Ergo, why would you be taking specific action to exclude them
from your siggy?

> I sent a message to the Cygwin list, and the fortune cookie 
> provided by her was
> 
>  Sex without love is an empty experience, but, as empty 
> experiences go, it's one of the best.
> 
> Is this offensive?

Probably to somebody.  But that isn't one of the limericks in question, is
it?  Hence it isn't germain to the issue at hand, is it?

> > I mean, apparently the limericks are not offensive to you, 
> seeing as you don't even have a definition of "offensive", right?  
> 
> Wrong reasoning.

Define "wrong".  And once you define it, don't you dare refer to anything I
may say or do as "wrong", regardless of context!  What sort of evil
rights-infringer are you?!?!?!

>  I don't have a definition of "offensive", 

...but you know it when you see it, huh?  Like my "offensive" calls to make
Cygwin a little more professional by removing this off-color content?

[snip]
>  Of course, there are people that see everything in Black 
> & White:  Either you are with me, or against me.  Either you 
> are good, or you are bad.  This always implies:  I am good, 
> if you don't share my opinions, you are bad.  Wow.  what a 
> surprise.
[snip]

And then there are people who see everything in Black & White but deny it:
Either you accept foul language carte-blanche or you are an icky Christian
offended by it.  Either you accept foul language carte-blanche or you are
infringing on somebody's rights.  Either you accept foul language
carte-blanche or you are against me.  Either you accept foul language
carte-blanche or you are bad.

Wow.  What a surprise.

[snip something about a Reverend]

> Some of the limericks actually _are_ offensive to me (or 
> better: pretty strong stuff), but I have been warned,

No you haven't.

> and I 
> can even edit the file in question to never see them again.  
> My version of the file, that is.

So you're a proponent of the "opt-out" philosophy, huh?

>  I would never have the 
> cheek to tell what others should be allowed to see or read in 
> terms of jokes, limericks etc.
> 

Nor would I.  I would also never have the cheek to tell somebody that by not
including off-color material in your product you are in some way telling
others what they should be allowed to see or read in terms of jokes,
limericks etc.

> >You don't need any programmer, packager, developer, pastor, 
> preacher, email recipient, etc etc etc etc to tell you what 
> you can and cannot put in your siggy, do you?  
>   
> Correct.  When I address someone personally, I always try not 
> to hurt him.  Having a limerick in which all Germans are 
> depicted as kraut eating idiots is fine, telling a German 
> that he is a kraut-eating idiot is offensive
> 

Um, didn't you just tell that hypothetical German what he should and should
not be offended by?  Such an action is offensive to you, no?


You are in error!  You did not discover your mistake, you have made two
errors!  You are flawed and imperfect and have not corrected by
sterilization, you have made three errors!  You are flawed and imperfect!
Execute your prime function!

 
> (BTW, I am German) 

With a name like "Volker Bandke"?!?!  Ah, yeah, mmm-hmmm, right.

;-)
  
> >Yet I don't see filthy limericks in your siggy (for some 
> definition of "filthy").
> 
> 
> And you have been dodging my question by counter-questions.

I've dodged nothing.  You on the other hand

>  I repeat
> 
> >Define offensive, please.  And give a scale and method  on 
> how offensiveness can be measured.  
> 
> Because, if this question cannot be answered, offensive texts 
> cannot be banned - because, who decides what is offensive?  
> You?  By whose authority?  Me?  Never.
> 

Who's banning what now?  I think you may be having a different discussion
than I am.  I'm talking about removing some off-color limericks from the
Cygwin distro.

> I have seen your answer in the newsgroup
> 
> 
> q:  What is offensive
> 
> a:  The limericks in said file
> 
> 
> I nearly fell off my chair laughing:  Look at the following 
> complete discussion
> 
> 
> A:  Those limericks are offensive and must be removed
> 
> B:  Define offensive
> 
> A:  Those limericks.  Q.E.D.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> If I have ever seen a circular argument - this is a perfect example.
> 
[snip]


Exercise your prime function!


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Re: Similar problem

[Larry Hall]

At 01:09 PM 1/7/2005, you wrote:
>Hey... well I don't get the error message you're getting, but when my
>installation hits 90% the progress bar goes right to the end then it stops and
>just keeps using more memory until it uses it all then crashes.


So then you want to read this thread:





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Re: Cygwin installation problem

[Larry Hall]

At 09:49 AM 1/7/2005, you wrote:
>I'm not sure how to send an actual mail reply to that message, but since  
>Larry said "This list would, however, be interested in
>knowing who this third party is and where you found the software
>that uses the Cygwin DLL" I can report that in my case I found that it was a 
>free CD burning software called "burnatonce" (see http://www.burnatonce.com) 
>that used an older (and much smaller) version of the dll file.


Thanks for this.  From what I understand, later posts suggest you were able
to resolve your installation problems as well.  :-)


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RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Kolden
> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:31 PM
> To: Gary R. Van Sickle
> Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.
> 
> > The question stands:  What is the reason Cygwin should provide this 
> > obscene content?
> 
> This is not the question.

Yes, it is.

>  Cygwin already provides the content.  

Accidentally, and without the knowledge or consent of the user.

> Therefore the question is: should it be removed?

The answer to that is yes.  Again I ask: why should Cygwin provide this
content?

[snip]

> You argue that it should, because you asses some of the 
> content as obscene, and are personally offended by it.  

You're late to the party Josh.  As I stated in my second post on the
subject, I am in no way personally offended by it.  I simply find it purile
and unprofessional.

> Further you imply that removing the package from your own 
> system is inadequate to address this offense. (please correct 
> me if I miss state your argument)
> 

You have almost completely misstated my argument.  Allow me to restate it in
convenient bullet-list form:

- The limericks in question could realistically get somebody fired or sued.
- I am realistically one of the many parties that could conceivably get
sued.
- Red Hat is even more realistically one of the many parties that could
conceivably get sued.
- The limericks in question are installed without the knowledge or consent
of the installer.
- The limericks in question are of interest only to junior-highschool-age
sysadmins and lawyers.
- Redacting the limericks in question from Cygwin will eliminate the risk
they cause.
- Redacting the limericks in question from Cygwin has no realistic chance of
destroying Western democracies or throwing the world into an oppressive
Stalinist nightmare.

[snip]
> Additional, unnecessary, evaluation reveals that while you 
> have two options to address your offense, I would have none 
> if the tables were turned.

You could download the source and build it yourself.  Just like you could
with all the software which isn't provided in the Cygwin distro.  Most of
which contains no questionable material.

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Re: Cygwin installation failure problem

[Larry Hall]

At 03:53 PM 1/8/2005, you wrote:
>On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Herbert Eppel wrote:
>
>> On 08.01.2005 08:38 UK Time, fergus wrote:
>> > You can try two things.
>> > 1. Install in two stages: start with the Base (default) installation and
>> > pursue to completion. Then re-start setup and continue with the Full
>> > installation. This should run to completion without any glitches.
>> > 2. Use
>> > http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.457.2.1.exe
>> > instead of the standard setup executable. Again list experience suggests
>> > that this will proceed to completion without the (well-known) glitches
>> > induced by the standard setup.
>> > Fergus
>>
>> Splendid - setup-2.457.2.1.exe has overcome the problem I reported yesterday
>> (see http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2005-01/msg00333.html), and the Cygwin
>> installation completed successfully :-D
>>
>> Many thanks.
>
>This looks like a good confirmation.  Time to move 2.457.2.1 into the
>mainstream?



Yes, please!  Max?



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Problem with 20050106 snapshot

[David Rothenberger]

I'm having a problem with the 20050106 snapshot as well as my own
DLL build from CVS HEAD on 20050107. I've also seen these problems
in snapshots from late last year. I've just now isolated a small
test case.

The problem is with bash killing native processes. I have a bash
script that starts a native process in the background, installs a
signal handler for SIGINT, grabs the pid from the background
process, and then issues wait. The signal handler tries to kill the
pid that was captured.

With 1.5.12 and a DLL built from CVS on 11/19/2004, this works just
fine. With the latest snapshot, I often (but not always) get a "Bad
file descriptor" error from kill.

I've enclosed a C file with the source for a simple program that
sleeps for the time specified on the command-line. I compiled this
as a WIN32 application using

  % gcc -o sleepMingw -mno-cygwin sleepMingw.c

I've also enclosed the driver script sleepTest.sh.

Here's the output from one run:

+ ./sleepMingw 30
+ pid=4408
+ trap enTrapSIGINT 2
+ wait
++ enTrapSIGINT
++ echo 'killing process 4408'
killing process 4408
++ kill 4408
./sleepTest.sh: line 11: kill: (4408) - Bad file descriptor
++ exit

The processes end up as  in procps. Attempts to kill the
processes also result in the Bad file descriptor error.

cygcheck output is also attached. I should note that I'm running
this under WinXP SP2 with hyperthreading enabled. I can try
disabling hyperthreading if requested.

#include 

int main (int argc, char** argv)
{
int sleepSecs = atoi(argv[1]);
sleep(sleepSecs * 1000);
exit(0);
}
#!/bin/bash

set -x

./sleepMingw $* &

enTrapSIGINT () { echo "killing process $pid"; kill $pid; exit; }

pid=$!
trap enTrapSIGINT 2
wait

Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Sat Jan 08 14:53:50 2005

Windows XP Professional Ver 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2

Path:   C:\cygwin\home\drothe\bin
C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin
C:\cygwin\bin
c:\jdk1.2.2\bin
c:\oracle\ora817\bin
C:\cygwin\bin
C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin
c:\program files\gpg-1.4.0
C:\cygwin\sbin
c:\WINDOWS\system32
c:\WINDOWS
c:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem
c:\Program Files\Executive Software\Diskeeper\
c:\MSSQL7\BINN
c:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel
c:\Program Files\SSH Communications Security\SSH Secure Shell

Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (nontsec)
UID: 1003(drothe) GID: 513(None)
513(None)

Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (ntsec)
UID: 1003(drothe)   GID: 513(None)
0(root) 513(None)   544(Administrators) 545(Users)

SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\system32
WinDir: C:\WINDOWS

CYGWIN = `server'
HOME = `C:\cygwin\home\drothe'
MAKE_MODE = `unix'
PWD = `/c/temp/cygwin'
USER = `drothe'

ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users'
APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\drothe\Application Data'
AUTOSSH_LOGFILE = `/var/log/autossh.log'
CLIENTNAME = `Console'
COLORFGBG = `0;default;15'
COLORTERM = `rxvt-xpm'
COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files'
COMPUTERNAME = `TELA'
COMSPEC = `C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe'
CVSROOT = `:ext:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/drothe/cvsroot'
CVS_RSH = `/usr/local/bin/ssh-noescape'
DISPLAY = `:0'
FP_NO_HOST_CHECK = `NO'
GNU_HOME = `c:/cygwin'
HOMEDRIVE = `C:'
HOMEPATH = `\Documents and Settings\drothe'
HOSTNAME = `tela'
INFOPATH = 
`/usr/local/info:/usr/info:/usr/share/info:/usr/autotool/devel/info:/usr/autotool/stable/info:'
JAVA_HOME = `c:/jdk1.2.2'
JPROFILER_JAVA_HOME = `c:\jdk1.4.2'
LOGONSERVER = `\\TELA'
LS_COLORS = 
`no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:ex=00;32:*~=05;31:*.mtxt=05;31:*.ndx=05;31:*.cmd=00;32:*.exe=00;32:*.com=00;32:*.btm=00;32:*.bat=00;32:*.c=01;36:*.h=01;36:*.pl=01;36:*.pm=01;36:*.cgi=01;36:*.java=01;36:*.html=01;36:*.tar=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.jpg=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.JPG=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.GIF=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.BMP=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.tif=01;35:'
MANPATH = 
`/usr/local/man:/usr/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/autotool/devel/man::/usr/ssl/man:/usr/X11R6/man'
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `2'
OLDPWD = `/home/drothe'
ORA81_HOME = `c:/oracle/ora817'
ORA81_HOME_WIN = `c:\oracle\ora817'
ORA9_HOME = `c:/oracle/ora920'
ORA9_HOME_WIN = `c:\oracle\ora920'
ORA_HOME = `c:/oracle/ora817'
ORA_HOME_WIN = `c:\oracle\ora817'
OS = `Windows_NT'
OSTYPE = `cygwin'
PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH'
PERLIO = `perlio'
PKG_CONFIG_PATH = `/usr/X11R6/lib/pkgconfig'
PRINTER = `Epson Stylus COLOR 800 ESC/P'
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86'
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9, GenuineIntel'
PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `15'
PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0209'
PROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files'
PROMPT = `$P$G'
PROMPT_COMMAND = `echo -ne "\033]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ${PWD}\007"'
PS1 = `\! \W> '
SESSIONNAME = `Console'
SHLVL = `1'
SSH_AGENT_PID = `6

sshd on XP Home: "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"

[Ernie Longmire]

I've been working on getting sshd working on my XP Home SP1 box but I've
run into a problem I can't get past.  sshd is running as a daemon but
won't allow me to connect to it.

Starting with updated versions of all installed cygwin packaged
including a clean openssh 3.9p1-2 install (no /etc/ssh* or ~/.ssh, sshd
removed from /etc/passwd, "net user sshd /del"), here's how I set it up.
I was logged in as "Ernie", which has Administrator privs:

==

% ssh-host-config -y
Generating /etc/ssh_host_key
Generating /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key
Generating /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key
Generating /etc/ssh_config file
Privilege separation is set to yes by default since OpenSSH 3.3.
However, this requires a non-privileged account called 'sshd'.
For more info on privilege separation read 
/usr/share/doc/openssh/README.privsep.

Should privilege separation be used? (yes/no) yes
Generating /etc/sshd_config file

Warning: The following functions require administrator privileges!

Do you want to install sshd as service?
(Say "no" if it's already installed as service) (yes/no) yes

Which value should the environment variable CYGWIN have when
sshd starts? It's recommended to set at least "ntsec" to be
able to change user context without password.
Default is "ntsec".  CYGWIN=ntsec tty

The service has been installed under LocalSystem account.
To start the service, call `net start sshd' or `cygrunsrv -S sshd'.

Host configuration finished. Have fun!

% net user sshd /add /homedir:d:\\cygwin\\var\\empty /active:no
The command completed successfully.

% mkpasswd -l -u sshd | sed -e 's/bash/false/' >> /etc/passwd

% grep "^sshd:" /etc/passwd
sshd:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1010:513:U-SLEEPWALK\sshd,S-1-5-21-1482476501-1682526488-854245398-1010:/var/empty:/bin/false

% echo "" > /var/log/sshd.log

% chown SYSTEM:SYSTEM /etc/ssh* /var/empty /var/log/sshd.log /var/log/lastlog

% ssh-user-config
Shall I create an SSH1 RSA identity file for you? (yes/no) no
Shall I create an SSH2 RSA identity file for you? (yes/no)  (yes/no) yes
Generating /home/Ernie/.ssh/id_rsa
Enter passphrase (empty for no passphrase): 
Enter same passphrase again: 
Do you want to use this identity to login to this machine? (yes/no) yes
Adding to /home/Ernie/.ssh/authorized_keys
Shall I create an SSH2 DSA identity file for you? (yes/no)  (yes/no) yes
Generating /home/Ernie/.ssh/id_dsa
Enter passphrase (empty for no passphrase): 
Enter same passphrase again: 
Do you want to use this identity to login to this machine? (yes/no) yes
Adding to /home/Ernie/.ssh/authorized_keys

Configuration finished. Have fun!

% ls -l /etc/ssh*
-rwxr-x---  1 SYSTEM Administrators 1159 Jan  8 14:24 /etc/ssh_config
-rw---  1 SYSTEM Administrators  668 Jan  8 14:24 /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key
-rw-r--r--  1 SYSTEM Administrators  605 Jan  8 14:24 /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub
-rw---  1 SYSTEM Administrators  530 Jan  8 14:24 /etc/ssh_host_key
-rw-r--r--  1 SYSTEM Administrators  334 Jan  8 14:24 /etc/ssh_host_key.pub
-rw---  1 SYSTEM Administrators  887 Jan  8 14:24 /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key
-rw-r--r--  1 SYSTEM Administrators  225 Jan  8 14:24 /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub
-rw-r--r--  1 SYSTEM Administrators 2807 Jan  8 14:24 /etc/sshd_config

% ls -l ~/.ssh
total 6
-rw---+ 1 Ernie None 830 Jan  8 14:26 authorized_keys
-rw---  1 Ernie None 668 Jan  8 14:26 id_dsa
-rw-r--r--  1 Ernie None 605 Jan  8 14:26 id_dsa.pub
-rw---  1 Ernie None 883 Jan  8 14:26 id_rsa
-rw-r--r--  1 Ernie None 225 Jan  8 14:26 id_rsa.pub
-rw-r--r--  1 Ernie None 236 Jan  8 14:29 known_hosts

% cygrunsrv -S sshd

[ sshd is up and running at this point ]

% ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host

% cygrunsrv -E sshd

% chown Ernie:None /etc/ssh* /var/empty /var/log/sshd.log /var/log/lastlog

% /usr/sbin/sshd -d -d -d
debug2: load_server_config: filename /etc/sshd_config
debug2: load_server_config: done config len = 187
debug2: parse_server_config: config /etc/sshd_config len 187
debug1: sshd version OpenSSH_3.9p1
debug1: private host key: #0 type 0 RSA1
debug3: Not a RSA1 key file /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key.
debug1: read PEM private key done: type RSA
debug1: private host key: #1 type 1 RSA
debug3: Not a RSA1 key file /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key.
debug1: read PEM private key done: type DSA
debug1: private host key: #2 type 2 DSA
debug1: rexec_argv[0]='/usr/sbin/sshd'
debug1: rexec_argv[1]='-d'
debug1: rexec_argv[2]='-d'
debug1: rexec_argv[3]='-d'
debug2: fd 3 setting O_NONBLOCK
debug1: Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0.
Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22.
Generating 768 bit RSA key.
RSA key generation complete.

[ Here I run 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]' from another shell ]

debug3: fd 4 is not O_NONBLOCK
debug1: Server will not fork when running in debugging mode.
debug3: send_rexec_state: entering fd = 7 config len 187
debug3: ssh_msg_send: type 0
debug3: send_rexec_state: done
debug1: rexec start in 4 out 4 newsock 4 pipe -1 sock 7

===

Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Joshua Kolden]

There is also the issue of legal risk. Is the material illegal in any 
country (which would cause obvious difficulty for any user or 
maintainer in such countries) and do any of these countries apply 
their laws extra territorially (which might cause problems to anyone 
visiting a country with an extradition agreement with the offended 
country). If there is a legal risk, is the continued inclusion of the 
material, which is rather peripheral to the main purpose of Cygwin, 
justified?

Mark Thornton

Interesting point, however it does appear to be rhetorical since no one 
has in fact brought this up as an issue for them.  My apologies if I 
missed a post were someone said this was their issue.  Nevertheless, for 
entertainment value and in the interest of completeness let's evaluate 
this issue as well.

First to clearly state the question.  It appears to me to be: Should a 
software author or packager take on the responsibility of no breaking 
the laws of other countries where the software may be distributed.

If among the goals of the packager he wishes to cause no harm to his 
users perhaps it is a good idea to remove the software.

Will removing  the software reduce the risk to the user?  Almost any 
content is widely available on the net, so our efforts to protect the 
user may be limited.  Further, are we sure that this is the only package 
that is not legal in a given country.  If their are others then we would 
need to remove them as well to insure that we've successfully removed 
the additional risk our software puts on it's users. 

It seems on the face of it that insuring the legality of the software in 
every legal system is a responsibility poorly placed on the packager.  A 
far better judge of the legality of a given software package is the 
user.  That user only has to evaluate his own laws wear as the packager 
must evaluate every countries laws.

If the user is to take responsibility then we must provide as much 
information as possible for every package so that the user can apply his 
own judgment.  This handily addresses the other issue of personal 
objection to the content as well.

j
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Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Andrew DeFaria]

Joshua Kolden wrote:
Andrew DeFaria wrote:
Joshua Kolden wrote:
You argue that it should, because you asses some of 
the content as obscene, ...
Joshua! How could continue to put forth obscene and offensive filth 
onto the Internet, even as a typo! ;-)

You're only giving Gary more ammunition!
Oh shit I'm sorry. I apologize, the word should be "assess" not 
"asses" as in buttocks or anus.

I'm really fucking sorry about that.
It's OK my son. You're here amongst friends... Well largely amongst 
friends...
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Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Joshua Kolden]

Andrew DeFaria wrote:
Joshua Kolden wrote:
You argue that it should, because you asses some of 
the content as obscene, ...

Joshua! How could continue to put forth obscene and offensive filth 
onto the Internet, even as a typo! ;-)

You're only giving Gary more ammunition!
Oh shit I'm sorry. I apologize, the word should be "assess" not "asses" 
as in buttocks or anus.

I'm really fucking sorry about that. 

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Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Andrew DeFaria]

Joshua Kolden wrote:
You argue that it should, because you asses some of the 
content as obscene, ...
Joshua! How could continue to put forth obscene and offensive filth onto 
the Internet, even as a typo! ;-)

You're only giving Gary more ammunition!
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Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Andrew DeFaria]

Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
Gerrit P. Haase (who should know better) wrote:
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
The question stands: What is the reason Cygwin should provide this 
obscene content?
Yes, why not?
Because they're lousy with potty-mouth.
IYHO I might add.
Yes, it is traditional.
Granted, off-color jokes are as old as time. Cygwin is however not 
bound by any traditions, certainly none related to purile toilet humor.
Nor is Cygwin bound to not honor any tradition. However, I'd say that 
Cygwin is bound to honor the traditions of Unix/Linux. This is one of them.

Yes, administrators like those kind of things.
Granted, there are a lot of sysadmins with a junior-high mentality. 
Just because somebody is not offended by such jokes does not necessarily 
mean they have junior-high mentality - it just means that they are not 
offended. Stated differently they are mature enough to recognize that 
their view point of morality is not the same as everybody else's and 
mature enough to exercise some tolerance. Perhaps you could see to it to 
raise your maturity level a bit.

Why should Cygwin/Red Hat take on the risk of providing them with the 
porn they so desperately crave?
If you think that fortune is porn then you just don't know good porn! ;-)
Yes, computers are not for children.
Sez a guy who apparently has been living in a cave since the fifties ;-).
By definition, a guy living in a cave since the fifties is not a child! ;-)
Sure, kids use computers (more play games with them than anything else). 
I doubt that many of them use Cygwin though. Do you have any evidence of 
children running fortune -o?

Yes, because we like freedom of speech.
As long as its dirty speech (q.v. your "shut up" admonition below).
You just don't get it do you? Freedom of speech is easily achieved 
anywhere in the world with thoughts that everybody agrees with! That's 
not freedom of speech! It's the stuff that not everybody shares the same 
opinion of that really tests freedom of speech. And once you start 
censoring things just because you don't agree with it or you think it's 
obscene then freedom of speech has been lost. Dirty speech is one such 
topic.What's that saying again? "I might not agree with your opinion but 
I will fight to the death to make sure you can voice it". Whatever 
happened to that Gary?

Yes, because we like guys like you asking annoying questions.
Hey, I though you liked freedom of speech?
The very act of you asking annoying question is an exercise of your 
freedom of speech!

If you cannot guess a reason for yourself,
I cannot, which is why I asked the question. Nor apparently can you, 
as the question remains unanswered even after your multi-point attempt 
here.
Bull. The question has been answered time and time again. You just don't 
want to accept the answers as it doesn't jive with the answer you want. 
Sorry Gary but you will not get the answer that you want because we just 
don't agree with you.

just remove this package from your repository and shut up.
Ah, "shut up", the ultimate answer when one knows what the right thing 
is, but for reasons unknown one does not wish to do the right thing.
You mean like your attempt to get fortune to "shut up" WRT things you 
find offensive? Ah, I see... ;-)
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Re: -lfreetype missing from /usr/lib/pkgconfig/pangoft2.pc

[Gerrit P. Haase]

Dr. Volker Zell wrote:
03:23 PM [720]> pkg-config.exe --libs "pangoft2"
-Wl,--export-dynamic -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lintl -liconv  

It seems that -lfreetype is missing from /usr/lib/pkgconfig/pangoft2.pc
Yes.  I'll update the package when I found the bug.

By the way there is a bogus include directive -I/opt/cxclient/usr/X11R6/include 
in Cflags from /usr/lib/pkgconfig/pangoxft.pc
Cflags: -I${includedir}/pango-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/opt/cxclient/usr/X11R6/include
This is from some X11 package, IIRC xft.pc itself, I already
removed this define in my local .pc files, ask AGO, please.
Gerrit
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execv and then socket: "operation not permitted"

[Eric Hoffman]

Hi,

I am in the process of porting an application from Solaris/HP/Linux to Cygwin.
I manage to compile the whole lot. However, I encounter a problem at execution.

There is a first program (pserver) forking and launching an other one
(readhandler) through a call to "execv". However, within the second
one (readhandler), I get an error message on the first call to
"socket": "Operation not permitted".
When I launch the second one stand-alone with exactly the same command
line arguments it works OK.

So I suspect something with the permission - user associated with the
execv call. Note that within the fork, just prior to execv, the socket
allocation is working.

Any idea?

Thanks,

Eric

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Re: Cygwin installation failure problem

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Herbert Eppel wrote:

> On 08.01.2005 08:38 UK Time, fergus wrote:
> > You can try two things.
> > 1. Install in two stages: start with the Base (default) installation and
> > pursue to completion. Then re-start setup and continue with the Full
> > installation. This should run to completion without any glitches.
> > 2. Use
> > http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.457.2.1.exe
> > instead of the standard setup executable. Again list experience suggests
> > that this will proceed to completion without the (well-known) glitches
> > induced by the standard setup.
> > Fergus
>
> Splendid - setup-2.457.2.1.exe has overcome the problem I reported yesterday
> (see http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2005-01/msg00333.html), and the Cygwin
> installation completed successfully :-D
>
> Many thanks.

This looks like a good confirmation.  Time to move 2.457.2.1 into the
mainstream?
Igor
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Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Joshua Kolden]

The question stands:  What is the reason Cygwin should provide this obscene
content?
This is not the question.  Cygwin already provides the content.  
Therefore the question is: should it be removed?  That is to take action 
beyond that which is already available to the user.  Those actions being 
to A) uninstall, or not install the application; or B) to modify the 
open source software in keeping with open source design to address the 
perceived flaw.

You argue that it should, because you asses some of the content as 
obscene, and are personally offended by it.  Further you imply that 
removing the package from your own system is inadequate to address this 
offense. (please correct me if I miss state your argument)

I argue that it should not, because I find that the material has no 
particular negative quality.  The inclusion of such personality in 
software puts me at ease, and allows me to work freely with out the 
feeling that I have to watch what I say, or feel that I am working in a 
constrictive corporate culture (where I have specifically chosen not to 
work).  Further, I am offended by political correctness, it encourages 
people to hide their thoughts to avoid offending people instead of 
exposing those thoughts to debate.  I am also offended by any attempt by 
another to dictate the nature of the software I choose to install on my 
computer.

You are offended by it's inclusion, I am offended by it's removal.  We 
are at a deadlock, so no clear direction can be agreed upon.  The 
content is already included, no clear action can be recommended, 
therefore no action should be taken.

Additional, unnecessary, evaluation reveals that while you have two 
options to address your offense, I would have none if the tables were 
turned.  This provides additional weight to the argument that no action 
should be taken since it already represents the fairest arrangement to 
our two opposing concerns.

j
 

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Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Mike]

On Sat, 08 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle might have said:

> > On Fri, 07 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle might have said:
> > define 'profane' first
> 
> Any of the limericks under discussion.  Your turn.

that's an example; not a definition

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RE: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

Yeah, I was corrected on this privately as well.  My point still stands.
The US in particular is a sue-happy wasteland, and I see no reason to put
out raw steaks for the ravenous lawyers.  Particularly since my (c) appears
on a few of the Setup files, and I don't really wish to be named as a
codefendant because of something so unnecessary and so easily corrected.

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arturus Magi
> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:32 AM
> To: Cygwin
> Subject: Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for 
> Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)
> 
> Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> >>Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> >>It's simple
> >>common sense. 
> > 
> > In a world where McDonalds loses a bajillion-dollar lawsuit because 
> > its coffee is hot, common sense is a thing of the past my 
> naive friend.
> > 
> 
> Actually, McDonald's lost that suit not because the idiot 
> spilled it on her lap, but because the judge decided to do 
> the Department of Health's job for them.
> 
> At the time, the styrofoam cups McDonald's used was not 
> actually supposed to hold coffee at the temperature that 
> McDonald's serves it at. 
>   In theory, the cups would melt semi-regularly if the 
> customers didn't drink their coffee first, although I don't 
> recall that ever actually happening.
> 
> The inspectors for the Dept. of Health apparently never 
> warned McDonalds that they were (more or less willingly) 
> endangering their customers, so the Judge decided to do it for them.
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RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

Gerrit P. Haase (who should know better) wrote:

> Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> > The question stands:  What is the reason Cygwin should provide this 
> > obscene content?
> 
> Yes, why not?

Because they're lousy with potty-mouth.

> Yes, it is traditional.

Granted, off-color jokes are as old as time.  Cygwin is however not bound by
any traditions, certainly none related to purile toilet humor.

> Yes, administrators like those kind of things.

Granted, there are a lot of sysadmins with a junior-high mentality.  Why
should Cygwin/Red Hat take on the risk of providing them with the porn they
so desperately crave?

> Yes, computers are not for children.

Sez a guy who apparently has been living in a cave since the fifties ;-).

> Yes, because we like freedom of speech.

As long as its dirty speech (q.v. your "shut up" admonition below).

> Yes, because we like guys like you asking annoying questions.
> 

Hey, I though you liked freedom of speech?

> If you cannot guess a reason for yourself,

I cannot, which is why I asked the question.  Nor apparently can you, as the
question remains unanswered even after your multi-point attempt here.

> just remove this 
> package from your repository and shut up.

Ah, "shut up", the ultimate answer when one knows what the right thing is,
but for reasons unknown one does not wish to do the right thing.

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RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

> On Fri, 07 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle might have said:
> 
> > > Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Good thing I didn't install it at work, and that I 
> don't work at a 
> > > > Megacorp that has whole departments devoted to rooting through 
> > > > peoples' files looking for reasons to fire them.
> > > 
> > > IMHO, this is the single best reason for obfuscating the 
> profanity 
> > > with rot13.
> > > --
> > > Francis Litterio
> > > franl  world . std . com
> > > 
> > 
> > Perhaps.  Could somebody tell me the single-best reason for 
> providing 
> > the profanity at all?
> > 
> > Hello?
> > 
> > Anybody?
> 
> define 'profane' first

Any of the limericks under discussion.  Your turn.

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RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> 
> > For the silly reason that I happen to know that a lot of things 
> > related to Nazis or Hitler in Deutschland ungültig ist.  
> Ferinstance, 
> > check out the German aircraft in MS's Combat Flight Simulator - no 
> > swastikas, 'cause if there were, they couldn't fly in 
> German airspace.
> 
> You mean they couldn't fly in _simulated_ German airspace?
> You probably mean the game couldn't be sold on German marketspace?
> 
> Rodrigo
> 

Yes, the latter.  I apologize, I do tend to mix my metaphors at times.

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RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

> On Jan  8 01:37, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> > > Why would you suggest that expressing a thought, however 
> you might 
> > > disagree with it, should be illegal?
> > 
> > For the silly reason that I happen to know that a lot of things 
> > related to Nazis or Hitler in Deutschland ung?ltig ist.  
> Ferinstance, 
> > check out the German aircraft in MS's Combat Flight Simulator - no 
> > swastikas, 'cause if there were, they couldn't fly in 
> German airspace.
> 
> Come on Gary, that's a common example, nothing to worry 
> about.  Showing these symbols has been forbidden in Germany 
> at one point 50 years ago.
> Of course that doesn't keep the die-hards from celebrating 
> the history but it was an interesting experiment.
> 
> I don't see what that has to do with fortune except that you 
> are apparently trying to create more examples until you find 
> something which might offend somebody on the list.  Then this 
> person has to come over it and move forward.

Ah, no, what it has do do with fortune is:

- Fortune produced a Hitler quote.
- I know that Germany is a bit touchy about that whole Hitler/Nazis/WWII
thing.
- Hence, I asked if such a quote was legal in Germany.

Ok, so Hitler quotes aren't illegal in Germany.  Great, now we all know a
teeny bit more than we did before I asked the question.  The infomericals
refer to that as "win-win".  Case closed, and no need to imagine malicious
intent where none exists, as far as I can see.

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Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Gerrit P. Haase]

Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
The question stands:  What is the reason Cygwin should provide this 
obscene content?
Yes, why not?
Yes, it is traditional.
Yes, administrators like those kind of things.
Yes, computers are not for children.
Yes, because we like freedom of speech.
Yes, because we like guys like you asking annoying questions.
If you cannot guess a reason for yourself, just remove this package
from your repository and shut up.
Regards,
Gerrit
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RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Volker Bandke]

 
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>Probably because some expressions relating to Nazism are illegal in
>Germany.  One of our German users would probably know this for sue.


Correct.  Denying that the Nazis killed million of Jews is a criminal offense.



Spying on somebody else's computer and searching for any kind of data is a 
criminal offense as well


BTW, my computer randomly selected the tagline below.  Is it obscene?  Should I 
burn my Laptop  (she wouldn't like that, I am sure)
  
  
  
  


 With kind Regards|\  _,,,---,,_
ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-.  ;-;;, 
 Volker Bandke   |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'   
  (BSP GmbH)'---''(_/--'  `-'\_)

  Sex without love is an empty experience, but, as empty experiences go, 
it's one of the best. -- Woody Allen
  
(Another Wisdom from my fortune cookie jar) 


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-lfreetype missing from /usr/lib/pkgconfig/pangoft2.pc

[Dr. Volker Zell]

Hi

I'm trying to compile wxWidgets for GTK2. During the link stage
-lfreetype is missing. wxWidgets configure calls pkg-config to get it's info.


03:23 PM [719]> pkg-config.exe --cflags "pangoft2"
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/src
03:23 PM [720]> pkg-config.exe --libs "pangoft2"
-Wl,--export-dynamic -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 
-lglib-2.0 -lintl -liconv  


It seems that -lfreetype is missing from /usr/lib/pkgconfig/pangoft2.pc



By the way there is a bogus include directive -I/opt/cxclient/usr/X11R6/include 
in Cflags from /usr/lib/pkgconfig/pangoxft.pc

Cflags: -I${includedir}/pango-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/freetype2 
-I/opt/cxclient/usr/X11R6/include

Ciao
  Volker


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Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Mike]

On Fri, 07 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle might have said:

> > Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> > 
> > > Good thing I didn't install it at work, and that I don't work at a 
> > > Megacorp that has whole departments devoted to rooting through 
> > > peoples' files looking for reasons to fire them.
> > 
> > IMHO, this is the single best reason for obfuscating the 
> > profanity with rot13.
> > --
> > Francis Litterio
> > franl  world . std . com
> > 
> 
> Perhaps.  Could somebody tell me the single-best reason for providing the
> profanity at all?
> 
> Hello?
> 
> Anybody?

define 'profane' first

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Re: Compiling SRecord fails on Cygwin; succeeds on Linux/FreeBSD.

[Gerrit P. Haase]

E. Weddington wrote:
Hello!
I've been trying to build the SRecord package version 1.20:

Compiling this fails with 3.4.1:
$ make
ccache g++  -g -O2 -Wall -Ilib/srec -Iinclude -c \
lib/srec/memory.cc
lib/srec/memory.cc: In member function `void srec_memory::copy(const 
srec_memory&)':
lib/srec/memory.cc:95: Fehler: array bound forbidden after parenthesized 
type-id
lib/srec/memory.cc:95: Anmerkung: try removing the parentheses around 
the type-id
lib/srec/memory.cc: In member function `srec_memory_chunk* 
srec_memory::find(long unsigned int) const':
lib/srec/memory.cc:139: Fehler: array bound forbidden after 
parenthesized type-id
lib/srec/memory.cc:139: Anmerkung: try removing the parentheses around 
the type-id
make: *** [lib/srec/memory.o] Fehler 1


I'm using the Cygwin GCC compiler, 3.3.3. I've been getting failures 
during the link phase:
[...]
- Could this be a problem with the Cygwin port of GCC? Is it a known 
issue? Is there a workaround?
1. I don't know.
2. No.
3.
- Should I go ahead an open up a GCC bug report? (and move this 
discussion to GCC).
Please ask some gcc / g++ / C++ specialists if there are known issues
before filing a bug report.
Gerrit
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Re: libxml2 and libxslt (was: Python packages that need updating to 2.4)

[Gerrit P. Haase]

Matthew Harris wrote:
At the beginning of this week I reported that libxsl2-python and libxslt
need to be updated to use python2.4/site-packages/.  I have since
I'll try to update the two packages, wait a minute...
Gerrit
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RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Rodrigo de Salvo Braz]

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:

> For the silly reason that I happen to know that a lot of things related to
> Nazis or Hitler in Deutschland ungültig ist.  Ferinstance, check out the
> German aircraft in MS's Combat Flight Simulator - no swastikas, 'cause if
> there were, they couldn't fly in German airspace.

You mean they couldn't fly in _simulated_ German airspace?
You probably mean the game couldn't be sold on German marketspace?

Rodrigo

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Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Jan  8 01:37, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> > Why would you suggest that expressing a thought, however you 
> > might disagree with it, should be illegal?
> 
> For the silly reason that I happen to know that a lot of things related to
> Nazis or Hitler in Deutschland ung?ltig ist.  Ferinstance, check out the
> German aircraft in MS's Combat Flight Simulator - no swastikas, 'cause if
> there were, they couldn't fly in German airspace.

Come on Gary, that's a common example, nothing to worry about.  Showing
these symbols has been forbidden in Germany at one point 50 years ago.
Of course that doesn't keep the die-hards from celebrating the history
but it was an interesting experiment.

I don't see what that has to do with fortune except that you are apparently
trying to create more examples until you find something which might offend
somebody on the list.  Then this person has to come over it and move forward.
That's it.  Can we stop discussing now(*) and move forward?  Thanks.


Corinna


(*) Otherwise *please* move this discussion to cygwin-talk now.  I've
set the reply-to accordingly.

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Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Jan  7 19:39, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> Jerry Williams, not of the band Grateful Dead, wrote:
> 
> > ==> fortunes2-o <==
> > Would you please have another look at my nose and put in that 
> > cocaine stuff
> > -- Adolf Hitler, quoted by Dr. Giesing in 
> > Nuremberg trial
> > 
> 
> Is something like this even legal in Germany?

Why not?  Shouldn't it?  Is Adolf Hitler a minority worth protecting?


Corinna

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Re: Cygwin installation failure problem

[Herbert Eppel]

On 08.01.2005 08:38 UK Time, fergus wrote:
You can try two things.
1. Install in two stages: start with the Base (default) installation and
pursue to completion. Then re-start setup and continue with the Full
installation. This should run to completion without any glitches.
2. Use
http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.457.2.1.exe
instead of the standard setup executable. Again list experience suggests
that this will proceed to completion without the (well-known) glitches
induced by the standard setup.
Fergus 
Splendid - setup-2.457.2.1.exe has overcome the problem I reported 
yesterday (see http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2005-01/msg00333.html), 
and the Cygwin installation completed successfully :-D

Many thanks.
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RE: Problem with rubbish in my mailbox

[Dr Christian Hicks]

I am experiencing a problem with my mailbox. Each day I am
getting 25-30 messages entitled "Obscene content in cygwin file".
I have had a look at a few of them and they appear to contain
junk. I am wondering how the problem can be rectified. Perhaps
a new list entitled cygwin-junk could be created? If the junk
keeps on going to the main list people are bound to start
unsubscribing.

Chris

>= Original Message From Francis Litterio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
>
>> Good thing I didn't install it at work, and that I don't work at a Megacorp
>> that has whole departments devoted to rooting through peoples' files 
looking
>> for reasons to fire them.
>
>IMHO, this is the single best reason for obfuscating the profanity with
>rot13.
>--
>Francis Litterio
>franl  world . std . com
>
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Re: Cygwin installation failure problem

[fergus]

You can try two things.
1. Install in two stages: start with the Base (default) installation and
pursue to completion. Then re-start setup and continue with the Full
installation. This should run to completion without any glitches.
2. Use
http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.457.2.1.exe
instead of the standard setup executable. Again list experience suggests
that this will proceed to completion without the (well-known) glitches
induced by the standard setup.
Fergus 


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Re: fortune maintainer wanted and question for Corinna (was Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.)

[Arturus Magi]

Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
It's simple 
common sense. 
In a world where McDonalds loses a bajillion-dollar lawsuit because its
coffee is hot, common sense is a thing of the past my naive friend.
Actually, McDonald's lost that suit not because the idiot spilled it on 
her lap, but because the judge decided to do the Department of Health's 
job for them.

At the time, the styrofoam cups McDonald's used was not actually 
supposed to hold coffee at the temperature that McDonald's serves it at. 
 In theory, the cups would melt semi-regularly if the customers didn't 
drink their coffee first, although I don't recall that ever actually 
happening.

The inspectors for the Dept. of Health apparently never warned McDonalds 
that they were (more or less willingly) endangering their customers, so 
the Judge decided to do it for them.

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RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.

[wszumera]

On 8 Jan 2005 at 1:37, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
[snip]
> > Why would you suggest that expressing a thought, however you
> > might disagree with it, should be illegal?
>
> For the silly reason that I happen to know that a lot of things related to
> Nazis or Hitler in Deutschland ungültig ist.  Ferinstance, check out the
> German aircraft in MS's Combat Flight Simulator - no swastikas, 'cause if
> there were, they couldn't fly in German airspace.
>
[snip]

I lived in Germany as a small boy and remember how the Germans tried to expunge 
what had happened.  Likely for good reasons but forgetting/suppressing history 
isn't good in the long run.

Fast forward to 1978, I'm at Peace Park in Hiroshima.  A young girl stops to 
ask us (group of off duty marines) why we bomb Hiroshima, we ask her, why you 
attack Pearl Harbor.  She blinks, and asks, what is "Pearl Harbor".

Incomplete history serves no one.

Wes



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