mark-active (was: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1)
Two more changes I noticed with 23.0.92 (with respect to 21.2): 1. mark-active stays t after use (e.g. in the *shell* buffer), with the result that the visual effect to mark the region gets sticky. 2. in a file buffer, doing C-x C-f (find-file) and RET will not read the file again, but instead invoke dired. Are these intentional? Marc -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A--1.7--Updated%3A-%7Bemacs%2Cemacs-X11%2Cemacs-el%7D-23.0.92-1-tp23559935p23594677.html Sent from the Cygwin list mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: mark-active (was: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1)
Marc Girod wrote: Two more changes I noticed with 23.0.92 (with respect to 21.2): A third one: 3. in the *shell* buffer, M-p (comint-previous-input) will not only affect the line at the prompt, but also remove anything below it in the buffer. I used to push with C-o (open-line) commands I intended to run later, which getting prerequisites first from the stack. No, my intentions get washed up with the bath water. Marc -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A--1.7--Updated%3A-%7Bemacs%2Cemacs-X11%2Cemacs-el%7D-23.0.92-1-tp23559935p23595893.html Sent from the Cygwin list mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: mark-active (was: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1)
Marc Girod wrote: Two more changes I noticed with 23.0.92 (with respect to 21.2): 1. mark-active stays t after use (e.g. in the *shell* buffer), with the result that the visual effect to mark the region gets sticky. I can't help you here. I've not tried cygwin's 23.0.92 yet, but I can't say I've noticed this on Linux, although because I don't have transient-mark-mode turned on, I wouldn't really expect to. 2. in a file buffer, doing C-x C-f (find-file) and RET will not read the file again, but instead invoke dired. 'Twas ever thus. I think you're confusing C-x C-f with C-x C-v (find-alternate-file). The former has always* defaulted to the current directory. The latter has always defaulted to the current filename. [TIP: if you haven't already, try ido-mode. It redefines all buffer and file selection functions, and although it takes a little while to learn to get the most out of it, IMHO you'll quickly wonder how you managed without it.] [*] within my admittedly patchy memory. I *have* verified that 21.2.1 (the earliest version I have at hand) worked this way, on both cygwin and Linux. Phil -- This email has been scanned by Ascribe Ltd using Microsoft Antigen for Exchange. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: mark-active (was: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 03:11:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Girod marc dot girod at gmail.com Two more changes I noticed with 23.0.92 (with respect to 21.2): These questions are not Cygwin-specific, so they are best asked on emacs-devel or help-gnu-emacs, but since you asked... 1. mark-active stays t after use (e.g. in the *shell* buffer), with the result that the visual effect to mark the region gets sticky. There are several entries in etc/NEWS.22 and etc/NEWS that you should read; search for transient. (They are too long to copy-paste here.) 2. in a file buffer, doing C-x C-f (find-file) and RET will not read the file again, but instead invoke dired. From etc/NEWS.22: ** C-x C-f RET (find-file), typing nothing in the minibuffer, is no longer a special case. Since the default input is the current directory, this has the effect of specifying the current directory. Normally that means to visit the directory with Dired. You can get the old behavior by typing C-x C-f M-n RET, which fetches the actual file name into the minibuffer. Are these intentional? Yes. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 00:33:13 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please at cygwin dot com On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 06:12:04AM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 02:52:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Girod marc dot girod at gmail dot com Eli Zaretskii wrote: ...if Emacs could know the Cygwin version. uname -r this gives on 2 installations e.g.: 1.5.25(0.156/4/2) 1.7.0(0.210/5/3) We haven't patched the uname program. emacs can use the same standard UNIX function calls as uname: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2009-05/msg00496.html Great, thanks. This means that an existing Emacs variable `operating-system-release', whose value is derived from uts.release, should hold either 1.5.SOMETHING or 1.7.SOMETHING, and that can be used to distinguish between the two Cygwin families. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
Eli Zaretskii wrote: This means that an existing Emacs variable `operating-system-release', whose value is derived from uts.release, should hold either 1.5.SOMETHING or 1.7.SOMETHING, and that can be used to distinguish between the two Cygwin families. Indeed. I found it on 23.0.92 (not on 21.2), holding 1.7.0(0.210/5/3) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A--1.7--Updated%3A-%7Bemacs%2Cemacs-X11%2Cemacs-el%7D-23.0.92-1-tp23559935p23585560.html Sent from the Cygwin list mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 09:29:37 -0400 From: Ken Brown kbrown at cornell dot edu CC: cygwin at cygwin dot com (concat .newmail- (file-name-nondirectory (if (memq system-type '(windows-nt cygwin ms-dos)) ;; cannot have colons in file name (replace-regexp-in-string : - file) file))) By the way, the patch is no longer needed; as of cygwin 1.7, it's legal to have colons in file names. Right, but the Emacs developers do not want so easily to drop support for all older versions of Cygwin, especially since Cygwin 1.7 is still in beta. Btw, it might be a good idea to introduce some Emacs function or variable that would return the version of Cygwin being used at run time, so that Lisp programs could avoid limiting Cygwin 1.7 and later where older versions are inherently limited. The above is a case in point, even though it is not a grave limitation; but there are more serious limitations in the Emacs sources that could be lifted for newer Cygwin versions, if Emacs could know the Cygwin version. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
Eli Zaretskii wrote: ...if Emacs could know the Cygwin version. uname -r this gives on 2 installations e.g.: 1.5.25(0.156/4/2) 1.7.0(0.210/5/3) $ ./uname -s CYGWIN_NT-6.0 Marc -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A--1.7--Updated%3A-%7Bemacs%2Cemacs-X11%2Cemacs-el%7D-23.0.92-1-tp23559935p23572106.html Sent from the Cygwin list mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
I just noticed that my /usr/share/info/dir file was reduced to a bare minimum: 2 lines for libc and libm... I had just updated 1.7 to the latest... My setup.log.full has indeed: unlink C:\cygwin2/usr/share/info/dir unlink C:\cygwin2/usr/share/info/libc.info unlink C:\cygwin2/usr/share/info/libm.info unlink C:\cygwin2/usr/share/info/standards.info ... Installing file cygfile:///usr/share/info/dir Installing file cygfile:///usr/share/info/libc.info Installing file cygfile:///usr/share/info/libm.info Installing file cygfile:///usr/share/info/standards.info Marc -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A--1.7--Updated%3A-%7Bemacs%2Cemacs-X11%2Cemacs-el%7D-23.0.92-1-tp23559935p23572302.html Sent from the Cygwin list mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
Marc Girod wrote: uname -r Er... maybe you would object that this is part of coreutils, and thus not necessarily of every cygwin installation... Marc -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A--1.7--Updated%3A-%7Bemacs%2Cemacs-X11%2Cemacs-el%7D-23.0.92-1-tp23559935p23572349.html Sent from the Cygwin list mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Marc Girod on 5/16/2009 4:17 AM: Marc Girod wrote: uname -r this gives on 2 installations e.g.: 1.5.25(0.156/4/2) 1.7.0(0.210/5/3) $ ./uname -s CYGWIN_NT-6.0 uname -s is wrong (you will get the same answer for two different cygwin installations on the same underlying Windows, but different answers across different Windows versions). But uname -r is reliable. Er... maybe you would object that this is part of coreutils, and thus not necessarily of every cygwin installation... Coreutils is part of every cygwin installation, as is every other package in the Base category (for example, findutils, tar, bash...). In other words, there are some programs so essential to a unix-y environment that you can count on them being present. But that said, all coreutils' uname(1) does is call uname(2). So emacs can reliably use uname(2) (provided by cygwin1.dll) rather than wasting a fork to call uname(1). - -- Don't work too hard, make some time for fun as well! Eric Blake e...@byu.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Cygwin) Comment: Public key at home.comcast.net/~ericblake/eblake.gpg Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkoOuBAACgkQ84KuGfSFAYCwJQCgk7m39ef9Jp5NiVWgX/4/tfN3 pI8Anjq1G3mIwif/JCu68Iu3BrI2eVWW =CgBH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 02:52:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Girod marc.gi...@gmail.com Eli Zaretskii wrote: ...if Emacs could know the Cygwin version. uname -r this gives on 2 installations e.g.: 1.5.25(0.156/4/2) 1.7.0(0.210/5/3) $ ./uname -s CYGWIN_NT-6.0 I meant an Emacs function, not an external program. That Emacs function could call the same API that uname uses to report these values, but depending on external programs that are not necessarily installed is not the best idea. Thanks. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 06:12:04AM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 02:52:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Girod marc.gi...@gmail.com Eli Zaretskii wrote: ...if Emacs could know the Cygwin version. uname -r this gives on 2 installations e.g.: 1.5.25(0.156/4/2) 1.7.0(0.210/5/3) $ ./uname -s CYGWIN_NT-6.0 I meant an Emacs function, not an external program. That Emacs function could call the same API that uname uses to report these values, but depending on external programs that are not necessarily installed is not the best idea. We haven't patched the uname program. emacs can use the same standard UNIX function calls as uname: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2009-05/msg00496.html -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
[ANNOUNCEMENT] [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
New experimental versions of the emacs, emacs-X11, and emacs-el packages are now available for download for those testing cygwin 1.7, replacing the previous experimental 22.1-3 packages. I have left 21.2-13 as current. CYGWIN NEWS: This is the first release in almost two years, after a maintainer change. If no serious problems arise, I hope to make some version of emacs-23 the current version of emacs by the time Cygwin 1.7 is released. There is one known bug: The cygwin build of emacs has problems getting the local time zone (see http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2009-02/msg00148.html). This affects emacs functions like display-time. A workaround is to set the TZ environment variable before starting emacs. For example, export TZ=America/New_York NEWS: = This is an upstream pre-release for what will be emacs 23.1. See http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ for more information. DESCRIPTION: Emacs is a powerful, customizable, self-documenting, modeless text editor. Emacs contains special code editing features, a scripting language (elisp), and the capability to read mail, news, and more without leaving the editor. Ken Brown New emacs maintainer for Cygwin To update your installation, click on the Install Cygwin now link on the http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downloads setup.exe to your system. Then, run setup and answer all of the questions. *** CYGWIN-ANNOUNCE UNSUBSCRIBE INFO *** If you want to unsubscribe from the cygwin-announce mailing list, look at the List-Unsubscribe: tag in the email header of this message. Send email to the address specified there. It will be in the format: cygwin-announce-unsubscribe-you=yourdomain@cygwin.com If you need more information on unsubscribing, start reading here: http://sources.redhat.com/lists.html#unsubscribe-simple Please read *all* of the information on unsubscribing that is available starting at this URL. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
On 5/15/2009 9:09 AM, gustav wrote: Dear Ken, First, thank you so much for having taken care of Emacs! I enclose a patch to rmail.el, which I always have to apply, because version 21.2 normally attempts to create files with po:, but neither Windows nor Cygwin tolerate that. Current rmail.el checks for Windows, but doesn't for Cygwin. This has already been fixed upstream, as of emacs 22.1. Here's an excerpt from the current rmail.el (emacs 23.0.92): (concat .newmail- (file-name-nondirectory (if (memq system-type '(windows-nt cygwin ms-dos)) ;; cannot have colons in file name (replace-regexp-in-string : - file) file))) By the way, the patch is no longer needed; as of cygwin 1.7, it's legal to have colons in file names. Ken P.S. For future reference, it's best to send comments about cygwin packages to the cygwin mailing list so that others can benefit from them also. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
[1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
New experimental versions of the emacs, emacs-X11, and emacs-el packages are now available for download for those testing cygwin 1.7, replacing the previous experimental 22.1-3 packages. I have left 21.2-13 as current. CYGWIN NEWS: This is the first release in almost two years, after a maintainer change. If no serious problems arise, I hope to make some version of emacs-23 the current version of emacs by the time Cygwin 1.7 is released. There is one known bug: The cygwin build of emacs has problems getting the local time zone (see http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2009-02/msg00148.html). This affects emacs functions like display-time. A workaround is to set the TZ environment variable before starting emacs. For example, export TZ=America/New_York NEWS: = This is an upstream pre-release for what will be emacs 23.1. See http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ for more information. DESCRIPTION: Emacs is a powerful, customizable, self-documenting, modeless text editor. Emacs contains special code editing features, a scripting language (elisp), and the capability to read mail, news, and more without leaving the editor. Ken Brown New emacs maintainer for Cygwin To update your installation, click on the Install Cygwin now link on the http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downloads setup.exe to your system. Then, run setup and answer all of the questions. *** CYGWIN-ANNOUNCE UNSUBSCRIBE INFO *** If you want to unsubscribe from the cygwin-announce mailing list, look at the List-Unsubscribe: tag in the email header of this message. Send email to the address specified there. It will be in the format: cygwin-announce-unsubscribe-you=yourdomain@cygwin.com If you need more information on unsubscribing, start reading here: http://sources.redhat.com/lists.html#unsubscribe-simple Please read *all* of the information on unsubscribing that is available starting at this URL.
