Re: Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-18 Thread Walter Bunch
Larry Hall lh-no-personal-replies-please at cygwin.com writes:

 Is the package database wrong 
 in saying that cygintl-3.dll is in:
 
 libintl3/libintl3-0.14.1-1GNU Internationalization runtime library 
  
 
 No, it's correct.  For instance, I found it on the RCN mirror at
 
 http://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/release/gettext/

I see libintl3-0.14.1-1.tar.bz2 at mirrors.rcn.net, but setup.exe doesn't show
it under the libs category, or anwhere else I look. I tried a global INSTALL on
all, downloading 190 *.bz2, but there's no libintl3-0.14.1-1.tar.bz2 to be
found, and not even a gettext directory under release. Oddly enough, using
mirrors.kernel.org and ftp.sunsite.utk.edu I get 308 *.bz2, yet still no
libintl3-0.14.1-1.tar.bz2 (or release/gettext).

Walt



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Re: Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-18 Thread Brian Dessent
Walter Bunch wrote:

 I see libintl3-0.14.1-1.tar.bz2 at mirrors.rcn.net, but setup.exe doesn't show
 it under the libs category, or anwhere else I look. I tried a global INSTALL 
 on
 all, downloading 190 *.bz2, but there's no libintl3-0.14.1-1.tar.bz2 to be
 found, and not even a gettext directory under release. Oddly enough, using
 mirrors.kernel.org and ftp.sunsite.utk.edu I get 308 *.bz2, yet still no
 libintl3-0.14.1-1.tar.bz2 (or release/gettext).

If that's really the case then there's something wrong going on in
setup.exe.  Can you please attach your cygcheck -srv as well as the
contents of /etc/setup/installed.db?

Brian

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Re: Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-18 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 01:28:35PM -0700, Brian Dessent wrote:
Walter Bunch wrote:

 I see libintl3-0.14.1-1.tar.bz2 at mirrors.rcn.net, but setup.exe doesn't 
 show
 it under the libs category, or anwhere else I look. I tried a global INSTALL 
 on
 all, downloading 190 *.bz2, but there's no libintl3-0.14.1-1.tar.bz2 to be
 found, and not even a gettext directory under release. Oddly enough, using
 mirrors.kernel.org and ftp.sunsite.utk.edu I get 308 *.bz2, yet still no
 libintl3-0.14.1-1.tar.bz2 (or release/gettext).

If that's really the case then there's something wrong going on in
setup.exe.  Can you please attach your cygcheck -srv as well as the
contents of /etc/setup/installed.db?

I suspect that setup thinks libintl3 is already installed and so hasn't
downloaded it.  I'd be very surprised it libintl3 wasn't really listed
if you change the View setting to Full in setup.exe.  If it isn't, I'd
like to hear what packages are listed before and after libintl3,
alphabetically.

cgf

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Re: Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-18 Thread Walter Bunch
Brian Dessent brian at dessent.net writes:

 If that's really the case then there's something wrong going on in
 setup.exe.  Can you please attach your cygcheck -srv as well as the
 contents of /etc/setup/installed.db?
 
 Brian
 
 

cygcheck won't run, since it can't find cygintl-3.dll. You can grab the
installed.db at http://www1.chapman.edu/~bunch/installed.db

The setup.exe came from sources.redhat.com/cygwin yesterday.

Walt



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Re: Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-18 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 09:20:33PM +, Walter Bunch wrote:
Brian Dessent brian at dessent.net writes:
If that's really the case then there's something wrong going on in
setup.exe.  Can you please attach your cygcheck -srv as well as the
contents of /etc/setup/installed.db?

cygcheck won't run, since it can't find cygintl-3.dll.  You can grab
the

cygcheck is not a cygwin app and does not rely on cygwin DLLs.  It runs
id which is a cygwin app and does rely on cygintl-3.dll but if you
just hit OK a couple of times when cygcheck is running, you'll still
get useful output.

cgf

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Re: Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-18 Thread Brian Dessent
Walter Bunch wrote:

 cygcheck won't run, since it can't find cygintl-3.dll. You can grab the
 installed.db at http://www1.chapman.edu/~bunch/installed.db
 
 The setup.exe came from sources.redhat.com/cygwin yesterday.

Wow.  You're missing ash.  You're missing gettext.  You're missing
several libintl packages.  How in the world did that happen?  Did you
perhaps set category 'Base' to 'Uninstall' by accident?  That would be a
Bad Thing(tm).

In any case, setup.exe should be able to fix it all.  Run setup, pick a
mirror, give it a different local package directory than what you've
been using (to eliminate the possibility of something wonky with your
local package cache.)  Do not touch anything in the package selection
screen, don't click on anything but 'Next' until it's done.  You should
get all the missing packages.

Brian

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Re: Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-18 Thread Walter Bunch
Christopher Faylor cgf-no-personal-reply-please at cygwin.com writes:

  all, downloading 190 *.bz2, but there's no libintl3-0.14.1-1.tar.bz2 to 
  be
  found, and not even a gettext directory under release. Oddly enough, using
  mirrors.kernel.org and ftp.sunsite.utk.edu I get 308 *.bz2, yet still no
  libintl3-0.14.1-1.tar.bz2 (or release/gettext).
 
 If that's really the case then there's something wrong going on in
 setup.exe.  Can you please attach your cygcheck -srv as well as the
 contents of /etc/setup/installed.db?
 
 I suspect that setup thinks libintl3 is already installed and so hasn't
 downloaded it.  I'd be very surprised it libintl3 wasn't really listed
 if you change the View setting to Full in setup.exe.  If it isn't, I'd
 like to hear what packages are listed before and after libintl3,
 alphabetically.

I see libintl now both in category and full view. It must have been my error,
somehow.

Also, the original problem was my fault: using install, rather than
reinstall. Though I had a cygwin environment several months old, I wanted to
grab a new copy for burning to cd using the Download Without Installing
option. I assumed that it would not check my current installation, since I was
not installing, per se. Using install, libintl was marked keep. Changing to
reinstall marked it retrieve.

I still can't explain the behavior difference between the mirrors. That must
have been some kind of pilot error too.

Thanks for the help,
Walt



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Re: Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-14 Thread Brian Dessent
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've run setup at least a half a dozen times now following the directions
 is previous posts.  Libintl3 never shows up in the list.  I went into the
 directory where I downloaded the kit so I could install it locally and

Forget about the directory structure for a minute.  Are you saying that
if you run setup, select install from internet, choose a mirror from
the list, switch the view to 'full', and scroll down the list there is
no 'libintl3' package shown?

Brian

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Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-12 Thread David_Fox
Hello!

I've been following with great interest the issue of a missing 
cygintl-3.dll file.  I've read the FAQ's and found that the dll should be 
in the libintl3 package. 

I'm at a real loss here as I've checked my copied distribution and a 
number of mirror sites around the world looking for the libintl3 directory 
in the release tree.  I can't find it anywhere.  I've also tried following 
the directions to get Setup, I have v2.457.2.2, to install them by 
specifically selecting the library package from the full list.  The 
package isn't listed anywhere.  Without this library cygwin will not start 
for me.

Is there a problem with the current distribution that the GNU 
Internationalization libraries are missing?  Is the package database wrong 
in saying that cygintl-3.dll is in:

libintl3/libintl3-0.14.1-1GNU Internationalization runtime library 

Any suggestions gratefully accepted!

Thanks!

David Fox


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Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-12 Thread David_Fox
Hello!

I've been following with great interest the issue of a missing 
cygintl-3.dll file.  I've read the FAQ's and found that the dll should be 
in the libintl3 package. 

I'm at a real loss here as I've checked my copied distribution and a 
number of mirror sites around the world looking for the libintl3 directory 
in the release tree.  I can't find it anywhere.  I've also tried following 
the directions to get Setup, I have v2.457.2.2, to install them by 
specifically selecting the library package from the full list.  The 
package isn't listed anywhere.  Without this library cygwin will not start 
for me.

Is there a problem with the current distribution that the GNU 
Internationalization libraries are missing?  Is the package database wrong 
in saying that cygintl-3.dll is in:

libintl3/libintl3-0.14.1-1GNU Internationalization runtime library 

Any suggestions gratefully accepted!

Thanks!

David Fox


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Re: Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-12 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 01:10:57PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello!

I've been following with great interest the issue of a missing 
cygintl-3.dll file.  I've read the FAQ's and found that the dll should be 
in the libintl3 package. 

I'm at a real loss here as I've checked my copied distribution and a 
number of mirror sites around the world looking for the libintl3 directory 
in the release tree.  I can't find it anywhere.  I've also tried following 
the directions to get Setup, I have v2.457.2.2, to install them by 
specifically selecting the library package from the full list.  The 
package isn't listed anywhere.  Without this library cygwin will not start 
for me.

Is there a problem with the current distribution that the GNU 
Internationalization libraries are missing?  Is the package database wrong 
in saying that cygintl-3.dll is in:

libintl3/libintl3-0.14.1-1GNU Internationalization runtime library 

cygintl-3.dll *is* in the libintl3 package.  You probably need to reinstall
it using setup.exe.

sourceware:~release/gettext/libintl3# tar vtjf libintl3-0.14.1-1.tar.bz2
-rwxr-xr-x cwilson/None  55612 2004-07-06 17:56:24 usr/bin/cygintl-3.dll

cgf

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Re: Re: Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-12 Thread David_Fox
Christopher,

You missed my point in the post.  I'm not disputing that the dll isn't in 
the libintl3 package.  What I'm saying is that the package file IS NOT IN 
THE DISTRIBUTION KIT!  I've even checked some mirror sites around the 
world for the directory thinking that maybe it didn't get copied down.  I 
couldn't find it on the mirrors either!

I've run setup at least a half a dozen times now following the directions 
is previous posts.  Libintl3 never shows up in the list.  I went into the 
directory where I downloaded the kit so I could install it locally and 
there is no directory with the name libintl3 or anything libintl!  I 
think the kit is broken.

I am assuming that there should be a release\libintl3 with a 
libintl3/libintl3-0.14.1-1 file in it.  Shouldn't there?  If not, why 
doesn't setup show it  when I switch it to FULL mode?

Very confused!  I have a much older version of cygwin running on another 
PC that I just may downgrade my laptop to, as it works on that machine.

David

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Re: Re: Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-12 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 01:50:42PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You missed my point in the post.  I'm not disputing that the dll isn't in 
the libintl3 package.  What I'm saying is that the package file IS NOT IN 
THE DISTRIBUTION KIT!

No, I didn't miss this.  I listed the contents of the package file in
the distribution and you can find it in http://cygwin.com/packages/libintl3/ .
The fact that it is there means that it is in the distribution.  This is
a listing of the actual file in the distribution.

So, it *is* there.  Really.  Just run setup.exe to install it.  It is in
the Libs category as libintl3.  If there is something wrong with your
installation you might have to Reinstall it by clicking on the Keep
to the left of the libintl3.

Alternatively, you can click on the View button, change the view to
Full and scroll down to libintl3.

cgf

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Re: Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-12 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am assuming that there should be a release\libintl3 with a 
libintl3/libintl3-0.14.1-1 file in it.  Shouldn't there?  If not, why 
doesn't setup show it  when I switch it to FULL mode?
Since libintl is part of gettext there is no dir release/libintl3 but
the dir release/gettext/libintl3.

Very confused!  I have a much older version of cygwin running on another 
PC that I just may downgrade my laptop to, as it works on that machine.
Regards,
Gerrit
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Re: Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-12 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 09:01:17PM +0200, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am assuming that there should be a release\libintl3 with a 
libintl3/libintl3-0.14.1-1 file in it.  Shouldn't there?  If not, why 
doesn't setup show it  when I switch it to FULL mode?

Since libintl is part of gettext there is no dir release/libintl3 but
the dir release/gettext/libintl3.

This was also another thing which was implicit in my message but there
is no reason to anyone to have to know that.  The only thing a user has
to know is run setup.exe to install a package.  Messing around with
mirrors and directories isn't really a good idea unless you are familiar
with the complexities of cygwin package management.

cgf

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Re: Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-12 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 09:01:17PM +0200, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am assuming that there should be a release\libintl3 with a 
libintl3/libintl3-0.14.1-1 file in it.  Shouldn't there?  If not, why 
doesn't setup show it  when I switch it to FULL mode?
Since libintl is part of gettext there is no dir release/libintl3 but
the dir release/gettext/libintl3.

This was also another thing which was implicit in my message but there
is no reason to anyone to have to know that.  The only thing a user has
to know is run setup.exe to install a package.  Messing around with
mirrors and directories isn't really a good idea unless you are familiar
with the complexities of cygwin package management.
What is so complex with:
wget -r -N ftp://mirror.server.here/pub/sourceware/cygwin/
and use setup to install from the local repository then?
Gerrit
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Re: Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-12 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 09:13:01PM +0200, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:

On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 09:01:17PM +0200, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am assuming that there should be a release\libintl3 with a 
libintl3/libintl3-0.14.1-1 file in it.  Shouldn't there?  If not, why 
doesn't setup show it  when I switch it to FULL mode?

Since libintl is part of gettext there is no dir release/libintl3 but
the dir release/gettext/libintl3.


This was also another thing which was implicit in my message but there
is no reason to anyone to have to know that.  The only thing a user has
to know is run setup.exe to install a package.  Messing around with
mirrors and directories isn't really a good idea unless you are familiar
with the complexities of cygwin package management.

What is so complex with:

wget -r -N ftp://mirror.server.here/pub/sourceware/cygwin/

and use setup to install from the local repository then?

Well, you'd be copying quite a bit of extra stuff if you did that, which
kind of proves my point.  You could just use setup.exe to download what
you needed, which would just retrieve what you needed.

I don't see what this has to do with the matter at hand, however.

cgf

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Re: Cannot find the librtl3 package even after reading suggestions in FAQ and posts!

2005-05-12 Thread Larry Hall
At 01:22 PM 5/12/2005, you wrote:
Hello!

I've been following with great interest the issue of a missing 
cygintl-3.dll file.  I've read the FAQ's and found that the dll should be 
in the libintl3 package. 

I'm at a real loss here as I've checked my copied distribution and a 
number of mirror sites around the world looking for the libintl3 directory 
in the release tree.  I can't find it anywhere.  I've also tried following 
the directions to get Setup, I have v2.457.2.2, to install them by 
specifically selecting the library package from the full list.  The 
package isn't listed anywhere.  Without this library cygwin will not start 
for me.

Perhaps you would like to tell us what mirrors you think have it missing?

Is there a problem with the current distribution that the GNU 
Internationalization libraries are missing?  

No.

Is the package database wrong 
in saying that cygintl-3.dll is in:

libintl3/libintl3-0.14.1-1GNU Internationalization runtime library 
 

No, it's correct.  For instance, I found it on the RCN mirror at

http://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/release/gettext/

Only mirrors listed at http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html are guaranteed
to have this package.

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