RE: Maildir Support broken with Mutt 1.4.1?

2003-11-23 Thread Christian Weinberger
> Maildirs have never actually worked properly because they use
> filenames which are not POSIX compatible, and were apparently
> specifically designed to cause grief for Windows and Mac systems. 
> Compounding this problem, I erroneously suggested people use Maildirs
> in older versions, before I knew the tragedy of Maildirs.  Probably
> what's happened is that mutt's error checking has been improved, so
> you're now getting an error message when it would just silently fail
> before. 
> 
> So, to sum up:
> 
> 1.  Don't use Maildir, use mbox.
>
> Gary R. Van Sickle
> 

And that is exactly what I did.
Since I do not really need Maildir, this was the easiest solution for me.

Thank´s for you explanation of the topic!

Christian


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Re: Maildir Support broken with Mutt 1.4.1?

2003-11-21 Thread Olaf Foellinger
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:15:38PM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> 2.  If you do use Maildir, put your mailbox on a Cygwin "Managed mount".  This
> may or may not work, I don't know.

Now that's the best hint I've got about the problem for a long time,
since it solves the problem.

How come that I haven't read about "managed mounts" before ? I do
remember that they have been mentioned earlier but I've never realised
what advantages they have.

Now I'm able to run a mutt-1.5.2 compiled OOTB (mutt-1.5.5.1i still has
problems) with Maildir. I've mounted ~/mail using 

$ mount -f -s -b -o managed "d:/tmp/mail" "/home/of/mail"

and it works flawlessly with mutt/Maildir. Further I'm able to backup
the directory file by file using d:/tmp/mail to a network share.

Many thanks to all who have contributed to this solution.
 
Gruss Olaf Föllinger

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RE: Maildir Support broken with Mutt 1.4.1?

2003-11-19 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> After upgrading to Mutt 1.4.1 I was no longer able to access my emails
> properly.
>
> As soon as a new mail arrived in the main folder (inbox), I could not even
> close mutt properly. It always gives me the error "rename file or folder
> does not exist (error=2)" in the status bar.
> It seems to me that Mutt tries to move the message from the "new" to the
> "cur" subfolder or so and fails with this operation.
>
> Downgrading to Mutt 1.4 solved the problem for me.
>
> I use Mutt together with procmail in Maildir mode. A search for previous
> postings showed, that there were already similar problems with an older
> version. The problem was that the filenames of the emails may contain
> characters like ":" that are allowed on POSIX systems, but not on Windows.
>
> Is it possible that a cygwin specific patch has not been applied to the
> most recent 1.4.1 version?

Maildirs have never actually worked properly because they use filenames which
are not POSIX compatible, and were apparently specifically designed to cause
grief for Windows and Mac systems.  Compounding this problem, I erroneously
suggested people use Maildirs in older versions, before I knew the tragedy of
Maildirs.  Probably what's happened is that mutt's error checking has been
improved, so you're now getting an error message when it would just silently
fail before.

So, to sum up:

1.  Don't use Maildir, use mbox.
2.  If you do use Maildir, put your mailbox on a Cygwin "Managed mount".  This
may or may not work, I don't know.

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Re: Maildir Support broken with Mutt 1.4.1?

2003-11-14 Thread Christian Weinberger
> Unfortunately the mutt version 1.4-1 doesn't find the cygcrypto.dll
> and cygssl.dll while there are only cygcrypto-0.9.7.dll and
> cygssl-0-9-7.dll. If I rename these dlls mutt dumps and I didn't test
> any further. But I would like to use a cygwin-supported mutt with
> maildir support to.
>  
> Gruss Olaf Föllinger
> 

At least this works in my installation. I´ve cygcrypto-0.9.7.dll, cygcrypt-
0.dll and cygcrypto.dll in my bin directory.

Maybe mutt 1.4-1 uses an older version? My cygcrypto.dll is dated 11 Apr 
2003.

Christian


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Re: Maildir Support broken with Mutt 1.4.1?

2003-11-10 Thread Olaf Foellinger
Hi,

On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 12:22:08PM +, Christian Weinberger wrote:
> After upgrading to Mutt 1.4.1 I was no longer able to access my emails 
> properly.
> 
> As soon as a new mail arrived in the main folder (inbox), I could not even 
> close mutt properly. It always gives me the error "rename file or folder 
> does not exist (error=2)" in the status bar.
> It seems to me that Mutt tries to move the message from the "new" to the 
> "cur" subfolder or so and fails with this operation.
> 
> Downgrading to Mutt 1.4 solved the problem for me.
> 
> I use Mutt together with procmail in Maildir mode. A search for previous 
> postings showed, that there were already similar problems with an older 
> version. The problem was that the filenames of the emails may contain 
> characters like ":" that are allowed on POSIX systems, but not on Windows.
> 
> Is it possible that a cygwin specific patch has not been applied to the 
> most recent 1.4.1 version?

I'm glad to read the the cygwin provided mutt does support Maildir since
I use a home brewed build which does. The patches for this did I find on
the cygwin mailing list.

Unfortunately the mutt version 1.4-1 doesn't find the cygcrypto.dll and
cygssl.dll while there are only cygcrypto-0.9.7.dll and
cygssl-0-9-7.dll. If I rename these dlls mutt dumps and I didn't test
any further. But I would like to use a cygwin-supported mutt with
maildir support to.
 
Gruss Olaf Föllinger

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