RE: Problems compiling grep and friends

2007-10-05 Thread Siegfried Heintze
Dave,
I'm not sure what to do. I see you attached a diffs file. Is there a utility
such as patch that I can use to apply those diffs? What would be the
command?
Thanks,
Siegfried



On 04 October 2007 22:13, Siegfried Heintze wrote:

 Siegfried wrote:
 OK, I tried that. See below for the results. Looks like we have the same
 problem.


  I whipped this up against grep-2.5.1a-3.  It might just apply cleanly to
the
version you're working with; make sure it gets all the $(DESTDIR)/
instances
and changes them to $DDSLASH.  It WFM:



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RE: Problems compiling grep and friends

2007-10-05 Thread Dave Korn
On 05 October 2007 23:16, Siegfried Heintze wrote:

 Dave,
 I'm not sure what to do. I see you attached a diffs file. Is there a utility
 such as patch that I can use to apply those diffs? What would be the
 command?

  There's a utility *exactly* such as patch that you can use to apply those
diffs, it's patch!  Place the diffs file in the grep top-level source
directory, cd into that directory in a shell and run

patch --dry-run -p0  diffs.txt

which will do a quick trial run.  You may see some output about matched at
... offset or fuzz, but that's ok, as long as there are no rejections.  If
it looks ok, apply the patch for real by running

patch -p0  diffs.txt

  Then reconfigure and re-build, and you should be ok.


cheers,
  DaveK
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RE: Problems compiling grep and friends

2007-10-04 Thread Siegfried Heintze
Siegfried wrote:
OK, I tried that. See below for the results. Looks like we have the same
problem.
Thanks,
Siegfried

Brian wrote:
So as a
workaround, try make install DESTDIR=/ which would result in
///foo/bar which is the POSIX-sanctioned way of dealing with
filesystems that reserve // for network paths.  Or, you could actually
use DESTDIR in the way it's designed (which is probably why this was
never noticed when e.g. creating the grep packages.)

Also, knock this off:

 cd c:/cygwin/usr/src/grep-2.5.1a-4/

cd /usr/src/grep-2.5.1a-4/
make install DESTDIR=/
Making install in intl
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/grep-2.5.1a-4/intl'
if test grep = gettext \
test '' = 'intl-compat.o'; then \
  /bin/sh `case ./mkinstalldirs in /*) echo ./mkinstalldirs ;;
*) echo .././mkinstalldirs ;; esac` //usr/local/lib //usr/local/include; \
  /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 libintl.h
//usr/local/include/libintl.h; \
  @LIBTOOL@ --mode=install \
/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 libintl.a //usr/local/lib/libintl.a;
\
else \
  : ; \
fi
if test 'no' = yes; then \
  test no != no || /bin/sh `case ./mkinstalldirs in /*) echo
./mkinstalldirs ;; *) echo .././mkinstalldirs ;; esac` //usr/local/lib;
\
  temp=//usr/local/lib/t-charset.alias; \
  dest=//usr/local/lib/charset.alias; \
  if test -f //usr/local/lib/charset.alias; then \
orig=//usr/local/lib/charset.alias; \
sed -f ref-add.sed $orig  $temp; \
/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 $temp $dest; \
rm -f $temp; \
  else \
if test no = no; then \
  orig=charset.alias; \
  sed -f ref-add.sed $orig  $temp; \
  /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 $temp $dest; \
  rm -f $temp; \
fi; \
  fi; \
  /bin/sh `case ./mkinstalldirs in /*) echo ./mkinstalldirs ;;
*) echo .././mkinstalldirs ;; esac` //usr/local/share/locale; \
  test -f //usr/local/share/locale/locale.alias \
 orig=//usr/local/share/locale/locale.alias \
|| orig=./locale.alias; \
  temp=//usr/local/share/locale/t-locale.alias; \
  dest=//usr/local/share/locale/locale.alias; \
  sed -f ref-add.sed $orig  $temp; \
  /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 $temp $dest; \
  rm -f $temp; \
else \
  : ; \
fi
if test grep = gettext; then \
  /bin/sh `case ./mkinstalldirs in /*) echo ./mkinstalldirs ;;
*) echo .././mkinstalldirs ;; esac` //usr/local/share/gettext/intl; \
  /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 VERSION
//usr/local/share/gettext/intl/VERSION; \
  /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ChangeLog.inst
//usr/local/share/gettext/intl/ChangeLog; \
  dists=COPYING.LIB-2.0 COPYING.LIB-2.1 Makefile.in config.charset
locale.alias ref-add.sin ref-del.sin gmo.h gettextP.h hash-string.h
plural-exp.h eval-plural.h os2compat.h libgnuintl.h loadinfo.h bindtextdom.c
dcgettext.c dgettext.c gettext.c finddomain.c loadmsgcat.c localealias.c
textdomain.c l10nflist.c explodename.c dcigettext.c dcngettext.c dngettext.c
ngettext.c plural.y plural-exp.c localcharset.c localename.c osdep.c
os2compat.c intl-compat.c; \
  for file in $dists; do \
/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ./$file \
//usr/local/share/gettext/intl/$file; \
  done; \
  chmod a+x //usr/local/share/gettext/intl/config.charset; \
  dists=plural.c; \
  for file in $dists; do \
if test -f $file; then dir=.; else dir=.; fi; \
/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 $dir/$file \
//usr/local/share/gettext/intl/$file; \
  done; \
  dists=xopen-msg.sed linux-msg.sed po2tbl.sed.in cat-compat.c
COPYING.LIB-2 gettext.h libgettext.h plural-eval.c; \
  for file in $dists; do \
rm -f //usr/local/share/gettext/intl/$file; \
  done; \
else \
  : ; \
fi
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/grep-2.5.1a-4/intl'
Making install in po
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/grep-2.5.1a-4/po'
if test -r .././mkinstalldirs; then \
  .././mkinstalldirs ///usr/local/share; \
else \
  /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs ///usr/local/share; \
fi
mkdir //usr
mkdir: cannot create directory `//usr': No such host or network path
mkdir //usr/local
mkdir: cannot create directory `//usr/local': No such host or network path
mkdir //usr/local/share
mkdir: cannot create directory `//usr/local/share': No such host or network
path
make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/grep-2.5.1a-4/po'
make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1

Compilation exited abnormally with code 2 at Thu Oct  4 15:11:53


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RE: Problems compiling grep and friends

2007-10-04 Thread Dave Korn
On 04 October 2007 22:13, Siegfried Heintze wrote:

 Siegfried wrote:
 OK, I tried that. See below for the results. Looks like we have the same
 problem.


 mkdir //usr
 mkdir: cannot create directory `//usr': No such host or network path
 mkdir //usr/local
 mkdir: cannot create directory `//usr/local': No such host or network path
 mkdir //usr/local/share
 mkdir: cannot create directory `//usr/local/share': No such host or network
 path
 make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/grep-2.5.1a-4/po'
 make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1


  I whipped this up against grep-2.5.1a-3.  It might just apply cleanly to the
version you're working with; make sure it gets all the $(DESTDIR)/ instances
and changes them to $DDSLASH.  It WFM:

 '  ''---'
/usr/src/grep-2.5.1a-3 $ cd po
@___. .
(   /\
 ||--||(___)
 '  ''---'
/usr/src/grep-2.5.1a-3/po $ make install 21 | tee inst.log
if test -n  ; then \
  DDSLASH=/ ; \
else \
  DDSLASH= ; \
fi
if test -r .././mkinstalldirs; then \
  .././mkinstalldirs $DDSLASH/usr/local/share; \
else \
  /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs $DDSLASH/usr/local/share; \
fi
mkdir /usr/local/share/locale/cs
mkdir /usr/local/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES
installing cs.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
installing de.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
installing el.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
mkdir /usr/local/share/locale/eo
mkdir /usr/local/share/locale/eo/LC_MESSAGES
installing eo.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/eo/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
installing es.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
mkdir /usr/local/share/locale/et
mkdir /usr/local/share/locale/et/LC_MESSAGES
installing et.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/et/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
installing fr.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
mkdir /usr/local/share/locale/gl
mkdir /usr/local/share/locale/gl/LC_MESSAGES
installing gl.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/gl/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
mkdir /usr/local/share/locale/hr
mkdir /usr/local/share/locale/hr/LC_MESSAGES
installing hr.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/hr/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
installing id.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/id/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
installing it.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
installing ja.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
installing ko.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
installing nl.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
mkdir /usr/local/share/locale/no
mkdir /usr/local/share/locale/no/LC_MESSAGES
installing no.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/no/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
installing pl.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
installing pt_BR.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
installing ru.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
mkdir /usr/local/share/locale/sl
mkdir /usr/local/share/locale/sl/LC_MESSAGES
installing sl.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/sl/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
installing sv.gmo as /usr/local/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
if test grep = gettext; then \
  if test -r .././mkinstalldirs; then \
.././mkinstalldirs $DDSLASH/usr/local/share/gettext/po; \
  else \
/bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs $DDSLASH/usr/local/share/gettext/po; \
  fi; \
  /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ./Makefile.in.in \
  $DDSLASH/usr/local/share/gettext/po/Makefile.in.in; \
else \
  : ; \
fi


cheers,
  DaveK
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diff -pu po.orig/Makefile.in.in po/Makefile.in.in
--- po.orig/Makefile.in.in  2002-03-26 14:38:46.00100 +
+++ po/Makefile.in.in   2007-10-04 22:31:11.260792100 +0100
@@ -110,10 +110,15 @@ install-exec:
 install-data: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@
 install-data-no: all
 install-data-yes: all
+   if test -n $(DESTDIR) ; then \
+ DDSLASH=$(DESTDIR)/ ; \
+   else \
+ DDSLASH= ; \
+   fi
if test -r $(MKINSTALLDIRS); then \
- $(MKINSTALLDIRS) $(DESTDIR)/$(datadir); \
+ $(MKINSTALLDIRS) $$DDSLASH$(datadir); \
else \
- $(SHELL) $(top_srcdir)/mkinstalldirs $(DESTDIR)/$(datadir); \
+ $(SHELL) $(top_srcdir)/mkinstalldirs $$DDSLASH$(datadir); \
fi
@catalogs='$(CATALOGS)'; \
for cat in $$catalogs; do \
@@ -125,27 +130,27 @@ install-data-yes: all
  lang=`echo $$cat | sed 's/\$(CATOBJEXT)$$//'`; \
  dir=$$destdir/$$lang/LC_MESSAGES; \
  if test -r $(MKINSTALLDIRS); then \
-   $(MKINSTALLDIRS) $(DESTDIR)/$$dir; \
+   $(MKINSTALLDIRS) $$DDSLASH$$dir; \
  else \
-   $(SHELL) $(top_srcdir)/mkinstalldirs $(DESTDIR)/$$dir; \
+   $(SHELL) $(top_srcdir)/mkinstalldirs $$DDSLASH$$dir; \
  fi; \
  if test -r $$cat; then \
-   $(INSTALL_DATA) $$cat $(DESTDIR)/$$dir/$(PACKAGE)$(INSTOBJEXT); \
-   echo installing $$cat as 
$(DESTDIR)/$$dir/$(PACKAGE)$(INSTOBJEXT); \
+   $(INSTALL_DATA) $$cat 

RE: Problems compiling grep and friends

2007-10-03 Thread Siegfried Heintze

On 27 September 2007 14:15, Siegfried Heintze wrote:

 I'm running xp pro and I am trying to compile grep. I downloaded the
source.
 ./configure seemed to go OK but there were problems with make. It looks
 like it cannot find the usr directory. Is there a fix for this?

  How did you configure?  It looks like it's got confused over the --prefix
setting; that extra '/' then makes cygwin treat the path as a UNC network
path, so you're trying to install to a network share called 'local' on a
remote host named 'usr'!  

  I've seen this sort of thing happen before when I was messing around by
setting DESTDIR during make install.  You'd better show us all your
configure and build command lines.

Is there a cygpath command that will show me all the files connected
with grep? What is this command? Should not I have been able to
manually find some notes on compiling this in /usr/share/doc
someplace? I could not find any notes there.


Ok, here it is:


cd c:/cygwin/usr/src/grep-2.5.1a-4/
./configure
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking build system type... i686-pc-cygwin
checking host system type... i686-pc-cygwin
checking for gawk... (cached) gawk
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output... a.exe
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables... .exe
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking for getconf... no
checking for CFLAGS value to request large file support... no
checking for LDFLAGS value to request large file support... no
checking for LIBS value to request large file support... no
checking for _FILE_OFFSET_BITS... no
checking for _LARGEFILE_SOURCE... no
checking for _LARGE_FILES... no
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking for function prototypes... yes
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for string.h... (cached) yes
checking for size_t... yes
checking for ssize_t... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking for an ANSI C-conforming const... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for unsigned long long... yes
checking for ANSI C header files... (cached) yes
checking for string.h... (cached) yes
checking for stdlib.h... (cached) yes
checking sys/param.h usability... yes
checking sys/param.h presence... yes
checking for sys/param.h... yes
checking for memory.h... (cached) yes
checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes
checking libintl.h usability... yes
checking libintl.h presence... yes
checking for libintl.h... yes
checking wctype.h usability... yes
checking wctype.h presence... yes
checking for wctype.h... yes
checking wchar.h usability... yes
checking wchar.h presence... yes
checking for wchar.h... yes
checking for dirent.h that defines DIR... yes
checking for library containing opendir... none required
checking whether stat file-mode macros are broken... no
checking for stdlib.h... (cached) yes
checking for mbstate_t... yes
checking for working alloca.h... yes
checking for alloca... yes
checking whether closedir returns void... no
checking for stdlib.h... (cached) yes
checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes
checking for getpagesize... yes
checking for working mmap... no
checking for btowc... yes
checking for isascii... yes
checking for memmove... yes
checking for setmode... yes
checking for strerror... yes
checking for wctype... yes
checking for mbrtowc... yes
checking for memchr... yes
checking for stpcpy... no
checking for strtoul... yes
checking for atexit... yes
checking for fnmatch... yes
checking for stdlib.h... (cached) yes
checking whether inttypes.h defines strtoumax as a macro... no
checking for strtoumax... yes
checking whether strtoul is declared... yes
checking whether strtoull is declared... yes
checking for strerror in -lcposix... no
checking for inline... inline
checking for off_t... yes
checking whether we are using the GNU C Library 2.1 or newer... no
checking argz.h usability... yes
checking argz.h presence... yes
checking for argz.h... yes
checking limits.h usability... yes
checking limits.h presence... yes
checking for limits.h... yes
checking locale.h usability... yes
checking locale.h presence... yes
checking for locale.h... yes
checking nl_types.h usability... no
checking 

RE: Problems compiling grep and friends

2007-10-03 Thread Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]
Siegfried Heintze wrote on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:23 PM:
 On 27 September 2007 14:15, Siegfried Heintze wrote:
 
 Is there a cygpath command that will show me all the files connected
 with grep? What is this command? Should not I have been able to
 manually find some notes on compiling this in /usr/share/doc
 someplace? I could not find any notes there.   

How about cygcheck, not cygpath?

bash-3.2$ cygcheck --help
Usage: cygcheck PROGRAM [ -v ] [ -h ]
   cygcheck -c [ PACKAGE ] [ -d ]
   cygcheck -s [ -r ] [ -v ] [ -h ]
   cygcheck -k
   cygcheck -f FILE [ FILE ... ]
   cygcheck -l [ PACKAGE ] [ PACKAGE ... ]
   cygcheck -p REGEXP
List system information, check installed packages, or query package database.

At least one command option or a PROGRAM is required, as shown above.

  PROGRAM  list library (DLL) dependencies of PROGRAM
  -c, --check-setupshow installed version of PACKAGE and verify integrity
   (or for all installed packages if none specified)
  -d, --dump-only  just list packages, do not verify (with -c)
  -s, --sysinfoproduce diagnostic system information (implies -c -d)
  -r, --registry   also scan registry for Cygwin settings (with -s)
  -k, --keycheck   perform a keyboard check session (must be run from a
   plain console only, not from a pty/rxvt/xterm)
  -f, --find-package   find the package that FILE belongs to
  -l, --list-package   list contents of PACKAGE (or all packages if none given)
  -p, --package-query  search for REGEXP in the entire cygwin.com package
   repository (requies internet connectivity)
  -v, --verboseproduce more verbose output
  -h, --help   annotate output with explanatory comments when given
   with another command, otherwise print this help
  -V, --versionprint the version of cygcheck and exit

Note: -c, -f, and -l only report on packages that are currently installed. To
  search all official Cygwin packages use -p instead.  The -p REGEXP matches
  package names, descriptions, and names of files/paths within all packages.

bash-3.2$ cygcheck -l grep
/usr/bin/egrep
/usr/bin/fgrep
/usr/bin/grep.exe
/usr/share/info/grep.info
/usr/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/eo/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/et/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/gl/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/hr/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/id/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/no/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/sl/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/grep.mo
/usr/share/man/man1/egrep.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/fgrep.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/grep.1.gz
bash-3.2$ 

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Re: Problems compiling grep and friends

2007-10-03 Thread Brian Dessent
Siegfried Heintze wrote:

 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/grep-2.5.1a-4/po'
 if test -r .././mkinstalldirs; then \
   .././mkinstalldirs //usr/local/share; \
 else \
   /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs //usr/local/share; \
 fi
 mkdir //usr
 mkdir: cannot create directory `//usr': No such host or network path
 mkdir //usr/local
 mkdir: cannot create directory `//usr/local': No such host or network path
 mkdir //usr/local/share
 mkdir: cannot create directory `//usr/local/share': No such host or network
 path

This is arguably a bug in the Makefile:

if test -r $(MKINSTALLDIRS); then \
  $(MKINSTALLDIRS) $(DESTDIR)/$(datadir); \
else \
  $(SHELL) $(top_srcdir)/mkinstalldirs $(DESTDIR)/$(datadir); \
fi

Here the author seemed to be relying on the fact that on many *nix
systems, //foo/bar is equivalent to /foo/bar in the case where DESTDIR
is not set.  However this is not true on Cygwin as the double-slash
signals a UNC path, and the POSIX standards allow for this.  So as a
workaround, try make install DESTDIR=/ which would result in
///foo/bar which is the POSIX-sanctioned way of dealing with
filesystems that reserve // for network paths.  Or, you could actually
use DESTDIR in the way it's designed (which is probably why this was
never noticed when e.g. creating the grep packages.)

Also, knock this off:

 cd c:/cygwin/usr/src/grep-2.5.1a-4/

Stop using Win32 paths.  They work only by coincidence, not by design. 
cd /usr/src/grep-2.5.1a-4 is what you should use.

Brian

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RE: Problems compiling grep and friends

2007-09-27 Thread Dave Korn
On 27 September 2007 14:15, Siegfried Heintze wrote:

 I’m running xp pro and I am trying to compile grep. I downloaded the source.
 ./configure seemed to go OK but there were problems with “make”. It looks
 like it cannot find the usr directory. Is there a fix for this?

  How did you configure?  It looks like it's got confused over the --prefix
setting; that extra '/' then makes cygwin treat the path as a UNC network
path, so you're trying to install to a network share called 'local' on a
remote host named 'usr'!  

  I've seen this sort of thing happen before when I was messing around by
setting DESTDIR during make install.  You'd better show us all your
configure and build command lines.


 mkdir //usr
 mkdir: cannot create directory `//usr': No such host or network path
 mkdir //usr/local
 mkdir: cannot create directory `//usr/local': No such host or network path
 mkdir //usr/local/share
 mkdir: cannot create directory `//usr/local/share': No such host or network
 path
 make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/cygdrive/c/Documents and

Settings/sheintze/Desktop/ftp%3a%2f%2fmirrors.kernel.org%2fsourceware%2fcygwin
/release/grep/grep-2.5.1a-4/po'
 make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1

  I really wouldn't build it in your package dir though, that's a bit
cluttery.  The optimal method is to use setup.exe to download and unpack the
source for grep into /usr/src, and build it there (using the provided build
script if there should happen to be one).



cheers,
  DaveK
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