RE: a standard place to get cygwin
-Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Green, Keith Sent: 19 January 2005 21:44 Also, it turns out there was indeed a cygwin1.dll loaded with xgobi (an app I only used a short while and then forgot about). k So how about retracting some of those over-hasty and unfair criticisms you were flinging about, eh? cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: a standard place to get cygwin
At 03:00 PM 1/19/2005, you wrote: Once again I'm required to use cygwin. Once again I'm having trouble. I notice that when I download from different places, I get different things included. In particular, I just downloaded /installed from anl.gov and told it to install all. First time I open a cygwin window I notice a problem ... it gives me two lines of telling me it can't find grep ... (this happens while it's going through the stuff in profile.d). I check /usr/bin and sure enough there is no grep in there. I do a find in the entire cygwin directory ... it's nowhere to be found. I try copying grep from a far previous version of cygwin ... doesn't work (some kind of missing DLL error). This has happened previously on other installs and is among the primary reasons I never use cygwin unless I'm forced into it. I think if I could just find 'the right site' that had everything in it ... one I could depend on to always include the sensible stuff at least (grep, gawk, Image Magick, the standard stuff) .. that this would be a much less irritating experience. Does such a site exist? Where is THE place from which to download cygwin? I'd be pretty surprised if that was your real problem. Even though it's true that some mirrors may be more up-to-date than others, this is typically a temporary thing. If you feel this is the issue (after reading what I say below), then you might want to try mirrors.rcn.net. I've never had trouble with that site. Sounds to me, though, like you have an errant Cygwin install hanging around. First thing to do is follow this FAQ: How do I uninstall all of Cygwin? http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_toc.html#TOC20 If after installing with that procedure, you still have problems, you have a program installed on your system that uses it's own version of 'cygwin1.dll'. Hunt down that DLL and destroy it. The program using it should be able to use the same 'cygwin1.dll' that you just installed. If it cannot, contact the provider of that program. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: a standard place to get cygwin
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Green, Keith wrote: Once again I'm required to use cygwin. Once again I'm having trouble. I notice that when I download from different places, I get different things included. [snip] This has happened previously on other installs and is among the primary reasons I never use cygwin unless I'm forced into it. I think if I could just find 'the right site' that had everything in it ... one I could depend on to always include the sensible stuff at least (grep, gawk, Image Magick, the standard stuff) .. that this would be a much less irritating experience. Does such a site exist? Where is THE place from which to download cygwin? Any one of the official Cygwin mirrors at http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html should have an up-to-date mirror of all Cygwin packages. Since anl.gov (you do mean ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/cygwin.com/, right?) is one of them, it should be one of THE places you ask for. I suspect the problem isn't with the mirror. You mention a previous installation of Cygwin -- perhaps you have stale mounts? Please review http://cygwin.com/problems.html for Cygwin problem reporting guidelines, including the kind of information you should provide about your system for us to be able to help you. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! The Sun will pass between the Earth and the Moon tonight for a total Lunar eclipse... -- WCBS Radio Newsbrief, Oct 27 2004, 12:01 pm EDT -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: a standard place to get cygwin
Larry wrote: Sounds to me, though, like you have an errant Cygwin install hanging around. First thing to do is follow this FAQ: How do I uninstall all of Cygwin? http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_toc.html#TOC20 If after installing with that procedure, you still have problems, you have a program installed on your system that uses it's own version of 'cygwin1.dll'. Hunt down that DLL and destroy it. The program using it should be able to use the same 'cygwin1.dll' that you just installed. If it cannot, contact the provider of that program. After installing cygwin on one of my boss's machines, he too was missing grep - and I know for certain he's never installed cygwin on his machine. However, I'll hunt this down. On my machine at least I have maybe half a dozen different installs sitting around in various states of disrepair. Once I can get it working correctly on my machine, I'll look at his. thanks, k -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: a standard place to get cygwin
On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 03:38:23PM -0500, Green, Keith wrote: Larry wrote: Sounds to me, though, like you have an errant Cygwin install hanging around. First thing to do is follow this FAQ: How do I uninstall all of Cygwin? http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_toc.html#TOC20 If after installing with that procedure, you still have problems, you have a program installed on your system that uses it's own version of 'cygwin1.dll'. Hunt down that DLL and destroy it. The program using it should be able to use the same 'cygwin1.dll' that you just installed. If it cannot, contact the provider of that program. After installing cygwin on one of my boss's machines, he too was missing grep - and I know for certain he's never installed cygwin on his machine. However, I'll hunt this down. On my machine at least I have maybe half a dozen different installs sitting around in various states of disrepair. Once I can get it working correctly on my machine, I'll look at his. Hopefully, you have finally bitten the bullet and just installed grep by rerunning setup.exe by now... cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: a standard place to get cygwin
cgf wrote: After installing cygwin on one of my boss's machines, he too was missing grep - and I know for certain he's never installed cygwin on his machine. However, I'll hunt this down. On my machine at least I have maybe half a dozen different installs sitting around in various states of disrepair. Once I can get it working correctly on my machine, I'll look at his. Hopefully, you have finally bitten the bullet and just installed grep by rerunning setup.exe by now... That's the only way I've ever installed cygwin. I have rerun and rerun and rerun setup ... more than a half dozen times just this go around ... dozens and dozens of times on various machines over the last few years. Every single install I recall has missed something. It's always been a matter of how much annoyance I could tolerate. An absence of grep far exceeds the limit - and so I make inquiry. Following the instructions on that web page Larry gave me, I've completely eradicated cygwin from my machine and begun the reinstall (30% complete). I should know very shortly whether this will work. Also, it turns out there was indeed a cygwin1.dll loaded with xgobi (an app I only used a short while and then forgot about). k -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: a standard place to get cygwin
On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 04:43:44PM -0500, Green, Keith wrote: cgf wrote: After installing cygwin on one of my boss's machines, he too was missing grep - and I know for certain he's never installed cygwin on his machine. However, I'll hunt this down. On my machine at least I have maybe half a dozen different installs sitting around in various states of disrepair. Once I can get it working correctly on my machine, I'll look at his. Hopefully, you have finally bitten the bullet and just installed grep by rerunning setup.exe by now... That's the only way I've ever installed cygwin. I have rerun and rerun and rerun setup ... more than a half dozen times just this go around ... dozens and dozens of times on various machines over the last few years. Every single install I recall has missed something. It's always been a matter of how much annoyance I could tolerate. An absence of grep far exceeds the limit - and so I make inquiry. Following the instructions on that web page Larry gave me, I've completely eradicated cygwin from my machine and begun the reinstall (30% complete). I should know very shortly whether this will work. You eradicated cygwin because you were missing grep? Wow. Just INSTALL grep using setup.exe. There is no reason to go to incredible effort because you were missing a program -- especially if your tolerance for free software is so low. I would think you'd rather just fix the problem and move on rather than compound your problem by wiping things out and installing everything. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: a standard place to get cygwin
Sounds to me, though, like you have an errant Cygwin install hanging around. First thing to do is follow this FAQ: How do I uninstall all of Cygwin? http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_toc.html#TOC20 I was skeptical, but that was it! thanks! k -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: a standard place to get cygwin
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: I suspect the problem isn't with the mirror. You mention a previous installation of Cygwin -- perhaps you have stale mounts? ^ On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Green, Keith wrote: Sounds to me, though, like you have an errant Cygwin install hanging around. First thing to do is follow this FAQ: How do I uninstall all of Cygwin? http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_toc.html#TOC20 I was skeptical, but that was it! Ah, so it *was* the problem of stale mounts... Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! The Sun will pass between the Earth and the Moon tonight for a total Lunar eclipse... -- WCBS Radio Newsbrief, Oct 27 2004, 12:01 pm EDT -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: a standard place to get cygwin
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: I suspect the problem isn't with the mirror. You mention a previous installation of Cygwin -- perhaps you have stale mounts? ^ On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Green, Keith wrote: Sounds to me, though, like you have an errant Cygwin install hanging around. First thing to do is follow this FAQ: How do I uninstall all of Cygwin? http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_toc.html#TOC20 I was skeptical, but that was it! Ah, so it *was* the problem of stale mounts... Igor Yes, though I'm not sure what a stale mount means in a registry context. It didn't click for me when I was deleting registry entries, but it does now that you mention it again, that all those mount entries under Cygwin Solutions was probably what you were talking about. Thanks, k -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: a standard place to get cygwin
At 06:35 PM 1/19/2005, you wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: I suspect the problem isn't with the mirror. You mention a previous installation of Cygwin -- perhaps you have stale mounts? ^ On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Green, Keith wrote: Sounds to me, though, like you have an errant Cygwin install hanging around. First thing to do is follow this FAQ: How do I uninstall all of Cygwin? http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_toc.html#TOC20 I was skeptical, but that was it! Ah, so it *was* the problem of stale mounts... Igor Yes, though I'm not sure what a stale mount means in a registry context. It didn't click for me when I was deleting registry entries, but it does now that you mention it again, that all those mount entries under Cygwin Solutions was probably what you were talking about. Yes, I pointed you at the prescribed way of making sure your machine is Cygwin clean, in case there was something else in your installation that was causing you problems. As Chris and Igor pointed out, it's rather brute force but it's the easy thing to point people at. In your case, I also agree that you may have been able to get away with 'umount -A'. If you boss's machine is still having a problem, you could try this on his. It's possible that he has installed some 3rd party Cygwin app too that he doesn't know about or forgot. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
