Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > This means that an existing Emacs variable > `operating-system-release', whose value is derived from uts.release, > should hold either "1.5.SOMETHING" or "1.7.SOMETHING", and that can be > used to distinguish between the two Cygwin families. > Indeed. I found it on 23.0.92 (not on 21.2), holding "1.7.0(0.210/5/3)" -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A--1.7--Updated%3A-%7Bemacs%2Cemacs-X11%2Cemacs-el%7D-23.0.92-1-tp23559935p23585560.html Sent from the Cygwin list mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 00:33:13 -0400 > From: Christopher Faylor > > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 06:12:04AM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 02:52:22 -0700 (PDT) > >> From: Marc Girod > >> > >> Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> > > >> > ...if Emacs could know the Cygwin version. > >> > > >> uname -r > >> > >> this gives on 2 installations e.g.: > >> > >> 1.5.25(0.156/4/2) > >> 1.7.0(0.210/5/3) > > We haven't patched the uname program. emacs can use the same standard > UNIX function calls as uname: > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2009-05/msg00496.html Great, thanks. This means that an existing Emacs variable `operating-system-release', whose value is derived from uts.release, should hold either "1.5.SOMETHING" or "1.7.SOMETHING", and that can be used to distinguish between the two Cygwin families. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 06:12:04AM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 02:52:22 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Marc Girod >> >> Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> > >> > ...if Emacs could know the Cygwin version. >> > >> uname -r >> >> this gives on 2 installations e.g.: >> >> 1.5.25(0.156/4/2) >> 1.7.0(0.210/5/3) >> >> $ ./uname -s >> CYGWIN_NT-6.0 > >I meant an Emacs function, not an external program. That Emacs >function could call the same API that uname uses to report these >values, but depending on external programs that are not necessarily >installed is not the best idea. We haven't patched the uname program. emacs can use the same standard UNIX function calls as uname: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2009-05/msg00496.html -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 02:52:22 -0700 (PDT) > From: Marc Girod > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > ...if Emacs could know the Cygwin version. > > > uname -r > > this gives on 2 installations e.g.: > > 1.5.25(0.156/4/2) > 1.7.0(0.210/5/3) > > $ ./uname -s > CYGWIN_NT-6.0 I meant an Emacs function, not an external program. That Emacs function could call the same API that uname uses to report these values, but depending on external programs that are not necessarily installed is not the best idea. Thanks. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Marc Girod on 5/16/2009 4:17 AM: > > Marc Girod wrote: >> uname -r >> this gives on 2 installations e.g.: >> >> 1.5.25(0.156/4/2) >> 1.7.0(0.210/5/3) >> >> $ ./uname -s >> CYGWIN_NT-6.0 > uname -s is wrong (you will get the same answer for two different cygwin installations on the same underlying Windows, but different answers across different Windows versions). But uname -r is reliable. >> > Er... maybe you would object that this is part of coreutils, > and thus not necessarily of every cygwin installation... Coreutils is part of every cygwin installation, as is every other package in the Base category (for example, findutils, tar, bash...). In other words, there are some programs so essential to a unix-y environment that you can count on them being present. But that said, all coreutils' uname(1) does is call uname(2). So emacs can reliably use uname(2) (provided by cygwin1.dll) rather than wasting a fork to call uname(1). - -- Don't work too hard, make some time for fun as well! Eric Blake e...@byu.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Cygwin) Comment: Public key at home.comcast.net/~ericblake/eblake.gpg Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkoOuBAACgkQ84KuGfSFAYCwJQCgk7m39ef9Jp5NiVWgX/4/tfN3 pI8Anjq1G3mIwif/JCu68Iu3BrI2eVWW =CgBH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
Marc Girod wrote: > > uname -r > Er... maybe you would object that this is part of coreutils, and thus not necessarily of every cygwin installation... Marc -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A--1.7--Updated%3A-%7Bemacs%2Cemacs-X11%2Cemacs-el%7D-23.0.92-1-tp23559935p23572349.html Sent from the Cygwin list mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
I just noticed that my /usr/share/info/dir file was reduced to a bare minimum: 2 lines for libc and libm... I had just updated 1.7 to the latest... My setup.log.full has indeed: unlink C:\cygwin2/usr/share/info/dir unlink C:\cygwin2/usr/share/info/libc.info unlink C:\cygwin2/usr/share/info/libm.info unlink C:\cygwin2/usr/share/info/standards.info ... Installing file cygfile:///usr/share/info/dir Installing file cygfile:///usr/share/info/libc.info Installing file cygfile:///usr/share/info/libm.info Installing file cygfile:///usr/share/info/standards.info Marc -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A--1.7--Updated%3A-%7Bemacs%2Cemacs-X11%2Cemacs-el%7D-23.0.92-1-tp23559935p23572302.html Sent from the Cygwin list mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > ...if Emacs could know the Cygwin version. > uname -r this gives on 2 installations e.g.: 1.5.25(0.156/4/2) 1.7.0(0.210/5/3) $ ./uname -s CYGWIN_NT-6.0 Marc -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A--1.7--Updated%3A-%7Bemacs%2Cemacs-X11%2Cemacs-el%7D-23.0.92-1-tp23559935p23572106.html Sent from the Cygwin list mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 09:29:37 -0400 > From: Ken Brown > CC: cygwin at cygwin dot com > > (concat ".newmail-" > (file-name-nondirectory >(if (memq system-type '(windows-nt cygwin ms-dos)) >;; cannot have colons in file name >(replace-regexp-in-string ":" "-" file) > file))) > > By the way, the patch is no longer needed; as of cygwin 1.7, it's legal > to have colons in file names. Right, but the Emacs developers do not want so easily to drop support for all older versions of Cygwin, especially since Cygwin 1.7 is still in beta. Btw, it might be a good idea to introduce some Emacs function or variable that would return the version of Cygwin being used at run time, so that Lisp programs could avoid limiting Cygwin 1.7 and later where older versions are inherently limited. The above is a case in point, even though it is not a grave limitation; but there are more serious limitations in the Emacs sources that could be lifted for newer Cygwin versions, if Emacs could know the Cygwin version. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [1.7] Updated: {emacs,emacs-X11,emacs-el}-23.0.92-1
On 5/15/2009 9:09 AM, gustav wrote: Dear Ken, First, thank you so much for having taken care of Emacs! I enclose a patch to rmail.el, which I always have to apply, because version 21.2 normally attempts to create files with "po:", but neither Windows nor Cygwin tolerate that. Current rmail.el checks for Windows, but doesn't for Cygwin. This has already been fixed upstream, as of emacs 22.1. Here's an excerpt from the current rmail.el (emacs 23.0.92): (concat ".newmail-" (file-name-nondirectory (if (memq system-type '(windows-nt cygwin ms-dos)) ;; cannot have colons in file name (replace-regexp-in-string ":" "-" file) file))) By the way, the patch is no longer needed; as of cygwin 1.7, it's legal to have colons in file names. Ken P.S. For future reference, it's best to send comments about cygwin packages to the cygwin mailing list so that others can benefit from them also. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
