Re: 64-bit gcc-4.8.1 package installs source instead
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 02:54:29PM -0500, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: >On 2013-07-23 11:16, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 03:20:11AM -0500, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: >>> This is one case where IMO genini is better than upset: genini-generated >>> setup.ini's don't list source-only packages in setup's package selector, >>> while still being available through the "Src" option of any of its >>> subpackages. Could upset be changed to match, which would avoid this >>> problem for *all* source-only packages? >> >> Why not just rename the package "gcc-src" to make it clear what's going >> on? > >gcc is only one example; many packages (most being library-only) have a >source-only "main" package. Not listing them while still allowing Src >(as genini does) makes things very clear IMHO. Yes, I got that you like the probable bug that caused genini to not list these packages. The fact that there are multiple packages with this issue isn't really an advertisement for clarity. "I'm looking for the source for gcc but the only thing I could find was the source for gcc-java" isn't really very clear. Nor is the sdesc for gcc which says "GNU Compiler Collection". That's just misleading. cgf -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: 64-bit gcc-4.8.1 package installs source instead
On Jul 23 17:47, Ryan Johnson wrote: > On 07/22/2013 05:38 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: > >On 2013-07-23 16:26, Ryan Johnson wrote: > >>If I select the gcc-4.8.1-1 package from setup-64, it downloads and > >>installs the gcc-4.8.1-src package > > > >gcc is only a source-only meta-package; you want to install > >gcc-core, gcc-g++, etc. > Oh, that's a little different than (a) the name suggests and (b) > historical precedent, which IIRC had "gcc" as a meta package that > pulled in all the other gcc-related stuff you'd need. > > Anyway, thanks for the tip, I'll try that. Shouldn't we introduce an empty gcc binary archive for just this situation? Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Maintainer cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: 64-bit gcc-4.8.1 package installs source instead
On 2013-07-23 11:16, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 03:20:11AM -0500, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: This is one case where IMO genini is better than upset: genini-generated setup.ini's don't list source-only packages in setup's package selector, while still being available through the "Src" option of any of its subpackages. Could upset be changed to match, which would avoid this problem for *all* source-only packages? Why not just rename the package "gcc-src" to make it clear what's going on? gcc is only one example; many packages (most being library-only) have a source-only "main" package. Not listing them while still allowing Src (as genini does) makes things very clear IMHO. Yaakov -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: 64-bit gcc-4.8.1 package installs source instead
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 03:20:11AM -0500, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: >On 2013-07-23 02:22, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> On Jul 23 17:47, Ryan Johnson wrote: >>> On 07/22/2013 05:38 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: gcc is only a source-only meta-package; you want to install gcc-core, gcc-g++, etc. >>> Oh, that's a little different than (a) the name suggests and (b) >>> historical precedent, which IIRC had "gcc" as a meta package that >>> pulled in all the other gcc-related stuff you'd need. >>> >>> Anyway, thanks for the tip, I'll try that. >> >> Shouldn't we introduce an empty gcc binary archive for just this >> situation? > >This is one case where IMO genini is better than upset: genini-generated >setup.ini's don't list source-only packages in setup's package selector, >while still being available through the "Src" option of any of its >subpackages. Could upset be changed to match, which would avoid this >problem for *all* source-only packages? Why not just rename the package "gcc-src" to make it clear what's going on? cgf -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: 64-bit gcc-4.8.1 package installs source instead
On Jul 23 03:20, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: > On 2013-07-23 02:22, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >On Jul 23 17:47, Ryan Johnson wrote: > >>On 07/22/2013 05:38 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: > >>>gcc is only a source-only meta-package; you want to install > >>>gcc-core, gcc-g++, etc. > >>Oh, that's a little different than (a) the name suggests and (b) > >>historical precedent, which IIRC had "gcc" as a meta package that > >>pulled in all the other gcc-related stuff you'd need. > >> > >>Anyway, thanks for the tip, I'll try that. > > > >Shouldn't we introduce an empty gcc binary archive for just this > >situation? > > This is one case where IMO genini is better than upset: > genini-generated setup.ini's don't list source-only packages in > setup's package selector, while still being available through the > "Src" option of any of its subpackages. Could upset be changed to > match, which would avoid this problem for *all* source-only > packages? I guess so, but this is one for Chris. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Maintainer cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: 64-bit gcc-4.8.1 package installs source instead
On 2013-07-23 02:22, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Jul 23 17:47, Ryan Johnson wrote: On 07/22/2013 05:38 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: gcc is only a source-only meta-package; you want to install gcc-core, gcc-g++, etc. Oh, that's a little different than (a) the name suggests and (b) historical precedent, which IIRC had "gcc" as a meta package that pulled in all the other gcc-related stuff you'd need. Anyway, thanks for the tip, I'll try that. Shouldn't we introduce an empty gcc binary archive for just this situation? This is one case where IMO genini is better than upset: genini-generated setup.ini's don't list source-only packages in setup's package selector, while still being available through the "Src" option of any of its subpackages. Could upset be changed to match, which would avoid this problem for *all* source-only packages? Yaakov -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: 64-bit gcc-4.8.1 package installs source instead
On 07/22/2013 05:38 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On 2013-07-23 16:26, Ryan Johnson wrote: If I select the gcc-4.8.1-1 package from setup-64, it downloads and installs the gcc-4.8.1-src package gcc is only a source-only meta-package; you want to install gcc-core, gcc-g++, etc. Oh, that's a little different than (a) the name suggests and (b) historical precedent, which IIRC had "gcc" as a meta package that pulled in all the other gcc-related stuff you'd need. Anyway, thanks for the tip, I'll try that. Ryan -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: 64-bit gcc-4.8.1 package installs source instead
On 2013-07-23 16:26, Ryan Johnson wrote: If I select the gcc-4.8.1-1 package from setup-64, it downloads and installs the gcc-4.8.1-src package gcc is only a source-only meta-package; you want to install gcc-core, gcc-g++, etc. Yaakov -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
