RE: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
I'll try it as soon as i get home, it doesnt crash on my work machine. -Original Message- From: Max Bowsher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 March 2003 21:26 To: Robert Collins; Vince Hoffman Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!) Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 22:10, Vince Hoffman wrote: Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? At start before any window appears. Shuttting down cygwin services made no difference. let me know if there is any more i can do to help the problem. Hmm, I don't think there is much more you can do. Max can reproduce it.. Not well, and not with -O0, though. Vince, would you be able to test the -O0 snapshot with debug symbols I've just uploaded? (bz2-ed to cut down on size of debug symbols). Max. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Max Bowsher wrote: Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 22:10, Vince Hoffman wrote: Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? At start before any window appears. Shuttting down cygwin services made no difference. let me know if there is any more i can do to help the problem. Hmm, I don't think there is much more you can do. Max can reproduce it.. Not well, and not with -O0, though. Vince, would you be able to test the -O0 snapshot with debug symbols I've just uploaded? (bz2-ed to cut down on size of debug symbols). Max. I tested it on my home (XP) machine (which had a 100% crash rate on the original), and the -O0 version works perfectly. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Rolf Campbell wrote: Max Bowsher wrote: Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 22:10, Vince Hoffman wrote: Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? At start before any window appears. Shuttting down cygwin services made no difference. let me know if there is any more i can do to help the problem. Hmm, I don't think there is much more you can do. Max can reproduce it.. Not well, and not with -O0, though. Vince, would you be able to test the -O0 snapshot with debug symbols I've just uploaded? (bz2-ed to cut down on size of debug symbols). Max. I tested it on my home (XP) machine (which had a 100% crash rate on the original), and the -O0 version works perfectly. This bug gets more and more elusive. Plus, I had to reinstall Windows on my desktop, and I can no-longer reproduce the crash. Rolf, is Service Pack 1 installed on your home machine? Max. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Max Bowsher wrote: Rolf Campbell wrote: Max Bowsher wrote: Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 22:10, Vince Hoffman wrote: Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? At start before any window appears. Shuttting down cygwin services made no difference. let me know if there is any more i can do to help the problem. Hmm, I don't think there is much more you can do. Max can reproduce it.. Not well, and not with -O0, though. Vince, would you be able to test the -O0 snapshot with debug symbols I've just uploaded? (bz2-ed to cut down on size of debug symbols). Max. I tested it on my home (XP) machine (which had a 100% crash rate on the original), and the -O0 version works perfectly. This bug gets more and more elusive. Plus, I had to reinstall Windows on my desktop, and I can no-longer reproduce the crash. Rolf, is Service Pack 1 installed on your home machine? Max. Yes. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Rolf Campbell wrote: Max Bowsher wrote: Rolf Campbell wrote: Max Bowsher wrote: Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 22:10, Vince Hoffman wrote: Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? At start before any window appears. Shuttting down cygwin services made no difference. let me know if there is any more i can do to help the problem. Hmm, I don't think there is much more you can do. Max can reproduce it.. Not well, and not with -O0, though. Vince, would you be able to test the -O0 snapshot with debug symbols I've just uploaded? (bz2-ed to cut down on size of debug symbols). Max. I tested it on my home (XP) machine (which had a 100% crash rate on the original), and the -O0 version works perfectly. This bug gets more and more elusive. Plus, I had to reinstall Windows on my desktop, and I can no-longer reproduce the crash. Rolf, is Service Pack 1 installed on your home machine? Yes. Oh. Looks like that's not a relevant factor. I was hoping that the fact I've only ever reproduced it on a non-SP1 machine might be a clue, but apparently not. Max. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 08:20, Max Bowsher wrote: This bug gets more and more elusive. Plus, I had to reinstall Windows on my desktop, and I can no-longer reproduce the crash. Rolf, is Service Pack 1 installed on your home machine? my hunch is that at O2 there is something being optimised out that leads to initialised variable access, and that that only matters if the memory is non NULL for some reason. (Just a hunch). Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Robert Collins wrote: Regarding XFree auto-installation... Cygwin Package Information ... libPropList 0.10.1-3 This requires XFree86-base. So setup is doing the right thing. Rob Well, unistalling that makes this setup work the same as the old setup. So, does this setup do dependancy analysis different than the old one? I would guess that this new one tries to install anything that is depended on and not already installed, where-as the old one only checks when you are installing the original package? -Rolf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 03:36, Rolf Campbell wrote: Well, unistalling that makes this setup work the same as the old setup. So, does this setup do dependancy analysis different than the old one? I would guess that this new one tries to install anything that is depended on and not already installed, where-as the old one only checks when you are installing the original package? Nope. Both setups check for required and not installed packages. There is simply a bug in the old one. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 22:10, Vince Hoffman wrote: Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? At start before any window appears. Shuttting down cygwin services made no difference. let me know if there is any more i can do to help the problem. Hmm, I don't think there is much more you can do. Max can reproduce it.. Not well, and not with -O0, though. Vince, would you be able to test the -O0 snapshot with debug symbols I've just uploaded? (bz2-ed to cut down on size of debug symbols). Max. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
I'll bump this once then let it drop assuming no one is interested. (This is in regards to the two test installs I did, and my considering trying other tests.) _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 14:16, amores nolikeyjunk wrote: I'll bump this once then let it drop assuming no one is interested. (This is in regards to the two test installs I did, and my considering trying other tests.) Positive feedback is always good it gives a feeling for the failure rate - i.e. 2 out of ~20 so far, rather than 2 out of 2:} . Thank you for the testing you've done so far, and any further different test results will be great (i.e. new platforms, upgrades vs fresh etc.) Cheers, Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 22:10, Vince Hoffman wrote: Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? At start before any window appears. Shuttting down cygwin services made no difference. let me know if there is any more i can do to help the problem. Hmm, I don't think there is much more you can do. Max can reproduce it.. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Regarding XFree auto-installation... __ Cygwin Package Information ... libPropList 0.10.1-3 This requires XFree86-base. So setup is doing the right thing. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
$$$ 2003-03-29 virgin Win98 Install From Internet Just Me Unix C:\cygtest ftp://mirrors.rcn.net default package set Seems to work ok, but when I reboot run setup again, it doesn't remember the pkg directory. I guess I don't know if it ever did, as this is the first time I'm not running the setup.exe out of the pkg directory. (Actually I'm running setup-2_340_2_3.exe, and it is sitting in c:\, and it suggested c:\ as the pkg directory both the first time I ran it, and the second, altho the first time I adjusted it to c:\cygtest\pkg.) I will do some more of these, but it would be nifty if there was any validation suite to run after installing cygwin ? (I'm just making minor variations on the choices in the original dialogs -- eg, this one was set to Just Me, whereas my previous 98 one was All Users, and I changed the cygwin directory name slightly this time.) _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 15:13, amores nolikeyjunk wrote: but when I reboot run setup again, it doesn't remember the pkg directory. I guess I don't know if it ever did, as this is the first time I'm not running the setup.exe out of the pkg directory. The first time through, there is a known race condition: cygwin isn't installed, so /etc doesn't exist, and the package dir is not saved, the mirror details are instead stored in the package dir itself. So, if you run setup a second time, give it the same settings. The third time it will remember the second time's settings. Rob (Actually I'm running setup-2_340_2_3.exe, and it is sitting in c:\, and it suggested c:\ as the pkg directory both the first time I ran it, and the second, altho the first time I adjusted it to c:\cygtest\pkg.) I will do some more of these, but it would be nifty if there was any validation suite to run after installing cygwin ? There isn't, but basically, ifyou can run programs, i.e. execute ls, then it should be ok. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
$$$ 2003-03-29 Follow-on to existing (virgin Win98, Install From Internet, Just Me, Unix C:\cygtest, ftp://mirrors.rcn.net, default package set) Continuing this win98 system, I ran setup and added pkgs autoconf, automake, binutils, bison, flex, gcc, gettext, gettext-devel, libltdl3, libtool, make, openssh Found I still didn't have cvs, so ran setup again, and this time it remembers my pkg directory (!last time it didn't!), and fetched cvs. Now something is wrong. When I type in the cygwin terminal window, it doesn't reflect what I type until I switch to another app and then back. I type ff, there is no indication that it heard me, I switch to an explorer window and back, and the ff comes out (as I switch back). I press backspace, it doesn't seem to hear me (pressing backspace), I switch to explorer, and back, and as I come back then the last character disappears (backspace kicks in). I tried running this cygcheck -s -v -r -h cygcheck_output.txt (which was a pain to type blind, and I had to fix a couple mistakes) and now my 98 system appears to be hung ? If I submit a Ctrl-Alt-Del to the machine (a virtual machine, actually), I get the blue screen saying: System is busy _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Robert Collins, If you happen to be quite interested in this apparent problem I've just found (altho I certainly don't know if it is setup related or not) at this moment, and wish to discuss this via Instant Messenger (eg, to give me some directions on what retests you'd like to me try), send me email directly. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Now something is wrong. When I type in the cygwin terminal window, it doesn't reflect what I type until I switch to another app and then back. I type ff, there is no indication that it heard me, I switch to an explorer window and back, and the ff comes out (as I switch back). I press backspace, it doesn't seem to hear me (pressing backspace), I switch to explorer, and back, and as I come back then the last character disappears (backspace kicks in). I'd say there is something wrong with your system/installation of Windows... I tried running this cygcheck -s -v -r -h cygcheck_output.txt (which was a pain to type blind, and I had to fix a couple mistakes) and now my 98 system appears to be hung ? If I submit a Ctrl-Alt-Del to the machine (a virtual machine, actually), I get the blue screen saying: VM as in running Windows on top of say Mac OS/Linux? Regards, Elfyn McBratney [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.exposure.org.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
I'd say there is something wrong with your system/installation of Windows... Could be. But, it is a clean win98 install, then I installed vmtools, then I've run cygwin setup (the experimental one), three times, and only done really minor things in the cygwin terminal (mkdir, touch, ls -l, cd). Oh, and I ran IE to go and get the experimental setup. Probably now I redo the same test with the non-experimental setup, and see what happens. VM as in running Windows on top of say Mac OS/Linux? Actually on top of Win2000. (Using vmware. It is the only way I have time to test stuff on virgin machines.) _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
$$$ 2003-03-29 Decided to think like a programmer, and repeat the test I did before that ended at locking up Windows apparently. (A good first question is usually, is it repeatable.) virgin Win98 Install From Internet Just Me Unix C:\cygtest ftp://mirrors.rcn.net default package set Now, the cygwin terminal window has not come up with a prompt in a couple of minutes (this is my first time invoking it after completing the first install). If I send a ctrl-alt-delete, the top program on the task list is ~, and nothing looks wrong. But now, after switching away and back, nothing in the Win98 (v)machine is responding. I can't really distinguish now whether this problem is due to the vmware somehow, or due to cygwin. _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 15:39, amores nolikeyjunk wrote: Now something is wrong. The symptoms you describe aren't (AFAIK) something that a setup bug could cause. I'd suggest a VMWare or windows install problem is your most likely culprit. Cheers, Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 15:41, amores nolikeyjunk wrote: Robert Collins, If you happen to be quite interested in this apparent problem I've just found (altho I certainly don't know if it is setup related or not) at this moment, and wish to discuss this via Instant Messenger (eg, to give me some directions on what retests you'd like to me try), send me email directly. Thanks for the offer, but I don't think real-time diagnosis is needed - see my other email. Cheers, Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 15:50, amores nolikeyjunk wrote: VM as in running Windows on top of say Mac OS/Linux? Actually on top of Win2000. (Using vmware. It is the only way I have time to test stuff on virgin machines.) I really appreciate the testing effort you are putting in - it's great. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Hi, You wrote vmtools and vmware. Is that http://www.vmguys.com/vmtools/ or http://www.vmware.com/? Both? Something else? It's really just idle curiosity. I had never heard of vmtools before, so I had to go look it up (it's Java XML stuff) and so it doesn't sound related, but I just thought I'd check. Randall Schulz At 20:50 2003-03-28, you wrote: I'd say there is something wrong with your system/installation of Windows... Could be. But, it is a clean win98 install, then I installed vmtools, then I've run cygwin setup (the experimental one), three times, and only done really minor things in the cygwin terminal (mkdir, touch, ls -l, cd). Oh, and I ran IE to go and get the experimental setup. Probably now I redo the same test with the non-experimental setup, and see what happens. VM as in running Windows on top of say Mac OS/Linux? Actually on top of Win2000. (Using vmware. It is the only way I have time to test stuff on virgin machines.) -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
VMWare comes with tools to allow the client OS (the one inside the VM) to interface with the host OS - i.e. mouse release so that the mouse can go from inside the VM to outside easily. These tools are called. vmtools. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
You wrote vmtools and vmware. Is that http://www.vmguys.com/vmtools/ or http://www.vmware.com/? Both? Something else? www.vmware.com On unrelated (but original) note: Now I'm seeing the MS-DOS window stop responding part-way thru the setup download of packages, and the system tends to lock (when I keep switching to the MS-DOS window and typing direnter to see if it is still working) before finishing downloading the packages. Before giving up on this, I'm going to see if I can easily find any info out about what is happening as it dies with sysinternals tools (http://www.sysinternals.com). _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Robert, Ah, right. I should have remembered that. I have VMware on this system (for a couple of months, now) and of course I installed the VMtools. I use VMware to run Linux under Windows since I now have a client who has some Java software that has to runs and build on both. Thanks for refreshing my memory. It was good to bump into the other VMTools, though. Randall Schulz At 21:40 2003-03-28, you wrote: VMWare comes with tools to allow the client OS (the one inside the VM) to interface with the host OS - i.e. mouse release so that the mouse can go from inside the VM to outside easily. These tools are called. vmtools. Rob -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Rolf Campbell wrote: Robert Collins wrote: A new release of setup.exe is imminent. There are many changes, and to reduce problems, feedback from YOU, is needed. The new version is available from http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.340.2.3.exe (binary) and http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.340.2.3.tar.bz2 (source). Pending any regressions being discovered, this release will become the production release in ~1 weeks time. I just tried to run it on my home XP machine, and it consistantly crashes on startup. I ran it in gdb: (gdb) run Starting program: /c/Download/Programming/CygWin/setup-2.340.2.3.exe warning: LOG: 2 Starting cygwin install, version 2.340.2.3 warning: LOG: 2 Current Directory: C:\Download\Programming\CygWin Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x78403330 in ?? () (gdb) list *0x78403330 No symbol table is loaded. Use the file command. (gdb) back #0 0x78403330 in ?? () #1 0x00425167 in ?? () #2 0x00456013 in ?? () #3 0x00401170 in ?? () #4 0x00401013 in ?? () #5 0x77e7eb69 in KERNEL32!CreateProcessInternalW () from /c/WINNT/system32/kernel32.dll Can you make a version available with debug symbols, or is that traceback good enough? The addresses are exactly identical to the crash I have been reproducing (though never under gdb, and not consistently, and on only one of my machines). See my recent posting on cygwin-apps for a partial decode. I'm about to try Robert's suggestion for getting more info. Max. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? At start before any window appears. Shuttting down cygwin services made no difference. let me know if there is any more i can do to help the problem. Assuming it crashes straight after download screen - can you do a few things for me? Firstly, I note that you have a lot of background cygwin processes - inetd, ssh, cygrunsrv etc. Can you shut them all down? Now, put setup through a few upgrades/reinstalls and see if it still crashes. If it doesn't, then we know where to look for the possible bug. If it still crashes, or if it's crashing elsewhere than after-the-download, can you provide a step by step journal of your choices in setup to help us reproduce the problem ( if we can't reproduce it, we can't fix it in any reasonable timeframe). Thanks for the feedback, Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Robert Collins wrote: USER-VISIBLE CHANGES: Did you forget resizable dialogs or is that not done yet? -- Joe Buehler -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Joe Buehler wrote: Robert Collins wrote: USER-VISIBLE CHANGES: Did you forget resizable dialogs or is that not done yet? You mean that's supposed to be *user-visible*? :-o Just kidding... It's not in yet. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk! -- /usr/games/fortune -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Havent a clean system to try a full install. however on running it to
upgrade/add packages the first run crashed .
on the second run all was fine and componants were added/updated perfectly.
I tried running a few more times to reproduce the crash and on average about
one in 5 times (very rough average) it crashed.(see attached drwatson
crashlog) for log of 2 of these crashes.
- Original Message -
From: Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:44 AM
Subject: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
A new release of setup.exe is imminent. There are many changes, and to
reduce problems, feedback from YOU, is needed.
The new version is available from
http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.340.2.3.exe (binary) and
http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.340.2.3.tar.bz2 (source).
Pending any regressions being discovered, this release will become the
production release in ~1 weeks time.
Cheers,
Rob
Release Notes
CONTRIBUTORS TO THIS RELEASE (alphabetical
order):
Abraham Backus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brian Keener [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gary R. Van Sickle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Marcel Telka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Max Bowsher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pavel Tsekov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USER-VISIBLE CHANGES:
Fix 'Can't open (null) for reading' errors.
Setup now checks bz2 (de)compression status rather than spewing TODO's
into setup.log.full.
Returning to the chooser from another page will now refresh the view.
Packages with corrupt md5's in the source that are being upgraded will
popup a warning, rather than uninstalling and then failing to install
the new version.
Setup is now more helpful when reporting what log file to look in if
errors occured.
Setup now has two new views - skipped packages (won't be installed) and
one for
packages that don't need updating.
New chooser 'keep' button to change the default activity on packages to
not upgrade - useful when installing a single new package.
Show all categories in the chooser, not just the first package.
Setup will detect and optionally disable McAfee during installation,
hopefully reducing the bluescreens some users have reported.
Use per-screen window titles.
Packages without accessible download sites won't be available for
installing.
Updating a user-site in the downloads site list will replace previous
sites at the same server.
Parsing of the setup.bz2/.ini files is reported via a progress bar, so
that setup does not appear to hang after the downloads.
BUGFIXES:
Run post-install scripts in the order of dependencies, to ensure that
packages are fully setup before scripts from other, dependent packages
run.
Prevent a handle leak when running scripts.
Prevent an access violation with some throw exceptions.
Only place the tcp port in http requests when it's not port 80.
Decode FTP 227 replies more robustly.
Compile with gcc3.
NEW FEATURES (That aren't user visible):
Support for parsing debian Packages and Sources tags in setup.ini/bz2.
Support for versioned dependencies.
ntsec integration to setup default ACL's on installed files correctly.
Logs files to be replaced on reboot.
Update included zlib to 1.1.4.
Partial unattended mode support.
The IE5 network option no longer prevents the use of cached data, which
significantly increases performance.
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Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Robert Collins wrote: A new release of setup.exe is imminent. There are many changes, and to reduce problems, feedback from YOU, is needed. The new version is available from http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.340.2.3.exe (binary) and http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.340.2.3.tar.bz2 (source). Pending any regressions being discovered, this release will become the production release in ~1 weeks time. Cheers, Rob When I run the new installer, it picks up all the XFree packages by default. I stopped it, then ran the old installer, and it didn't try to install any XFree stuff. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 00:17, Joe Buehler wrote: Robert Collins wrote: USER-VISIBLE CHANGES: Did you forget resizable dialogs No. or is that not done yet? Bingo! Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 02:24, Vince Hoffman wrote: Havent a clean system to try a full install. however on running it to upgrade/add packages the first run crashed . on the second run all was fine and componants were added/updated perfectly. I tried running a few more times to reproduce the crash and on average about one in 5 times (very rough average) it crashed.(see attached drwatson crashlog) for log of 2 of these crashes. Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? Assuming it crashes straight after download screen - can you do a few things for me? Firstly, I note that you have a lot of background cygwin processes - inetd, ssh, cygrunsrv etc. Can you shut them all down? Now, put setup through a few upgrades/reinstalls and see if it still crashes. If it doesn't, then we know where to look for the possible bug. If it still crashes, or if it's crashing elsewhere than after-the-download, can you provide a step by step journal of your choices in setup to help us reproduce the problem ( if we can't reproduce it, we can't fix it in any reasonable timeframe). Thanks for the feedback, Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 03:15, Rolf Campbell wrote: Robert Collins wrote: A new release of setup.exe is imminent. There are many changes, and to reduce problems, feedback from YOU, is needed. The new version is available from http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.340.2.3.exe (binary) and http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.340.2.3.tar.bz2 (source). Pending any regressions being discovered, this release will become the production release in ~1 weeks time. Cheers, Rob When I run the new installer, it picks up all the XFree packages by default. I stopped it, then ran the old installer, and it didn't try to install any XFree stuff. Ok, are you installing from a local cache, or 'from the internet'. Do you have any custom mirrors, or are you just using official ones. Can you attached the output of cygcheck -c to your reply. Can you bz2 /var/log/setup.full.log and attach that as well. Your problem *may* be a bug in the beta. More likely there was a bug / corner case in the current release that we've corrected. (FWIW, it doesn't pull in all the Xfree packages for me). Cheers, Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 02:24, Vince Hoffman wrote: Havent a clean system to try a full install. however on running it to upgrade/add packages the first run crashed . on the second run all was fine and componants were added/updated perfectly. I tried running a few more times to reproduce the crash and on average about one in 5 times (very rough average) it crashed.(see attached drwatson crashlog) for log of 2 of these crashes. I'm getting this too - but only on my desktop - not my laptop. Crash frequency is only 1 in 20, as well. Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? Before the splash page appears. Max. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 03:15, Rolf Campbell wrote: Robert Collins wrote: A new release of setup.exe is imminent. There are many changes, and to reduce problems, feedback from YOU, is needed. The new version is available from http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.340.2.3.exe (binary) and http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.340.2.3.tar.bz2 (source). Pending any regressions being discovered, this release will become the production release in ~1 weeks time. Cheers, Rob When I run the new installer, it picks up all the XFree packages by default. I stopped it, then ran the old installer, and it didn't try to install any XFree stuff. Ok, are you installing from a local cache, or 'from the internet'. 'from the internet' Do you have any custom mirrors, or are you just using official ones. http://mirror.rcn.net Can you attached the output of cygcheck -c to your reply. Yes, I believe I can. Can you bz2 /var/log/setup.full.log and attach that as well. Yes, I believe I can. Your problem *may* be a bug in the beta. More likely there was a bug / corner case in the current release that we've corrected. (FWIW, it doesn't pull in all the Xfree packages for me). Cheers, Rob Cygwin Package Information Package Version _update-info-dir 00158-1 ash 20020731-1 base-files 1.1-1 base-passwd 1.1-1 bash 2.05b-9 binutils 20030307-1 bzip21.0.2-2 clear1.0-1 cpio 2.5-1 ctags5.2-1 cygrunsrv0.95-1 cygutils 1.1.3-1 cygwin 1.3.22-1 cygwin-doc 1.3-2 diff 1.0-1 diffutils2.8.1-1 file 3.39-1 fileutils4.1-1 findutils4.1.7-4 gawk 3.1.2-2 gcc 3.2-3 gcc-mingw20020817-5 gdb 20030303-1 gdbm 1.8.0-5 gettext 0.11.5-1 gperf2.7.2-1 grep 2.5-1 groff1.18.1-2 gzip 1.3.3-4 inetutils1.3.2-20 jbigkit 1.4-1 jpeg 6b-7 less 378-1 libbz2_0 1.0.2-1 libbz2_1 1.0.2-2 libdb3.1 3.1.17-2 libgdbm 1.8.0-5 libgdbm-devel1.8.0-5 libiconv21.8-2 libintl 0.10.38-3 libintl1 0.10.40-1 libintl2 0.11.5-1 libncurses5 5.2-1 libncurses6 5.2-8 libncurses7 5.3-1 libpng 1.2.5-1 libpng10 1.0.15-1 libpng12 1.2.5-1 libpng2 1.0.12-1 libpopt0 1.6.4-4 libPropList 0.10.1-3 libreadline4 4.1-2 libreadline5 4.3-2 login1.7-1 make 3.79.1-7 makecyg 3.79.1-7 man 1.5j-2 mc 4.6.0-2 mingw20010917-1 mingw-runtime2.4-1 mktemp 1.4-1 ncurses 5.2-8 newlib-man 20020801 openssh 3.5p1-3 openssl 0.9.7a-3 openssl096 0.9.6i-3 patch2.5.8-3 pcre 3.7-1 perl 5.6.1-2 python 2.2.2-7 readline 4.3-2 regex4.4-2 rsync2.5.5-2 rxvt 2.7.9-4 sed 4.0.5-1 sh-utils 2.0.15-3 tar 1.13.25-1 tcltk20030214-1 termcap 20020930-1 terminfo 5.3-1 texinfo 4.2-4 textutils2.0.21-1 time 1.7-1 unzip5.50-2 vim 6.1.300-1 w32api 2.2-1 wget 1.8.2-2 which1.5-1 xpm-nox 4.2.0-1 zip 2.3-2 zlib 1.1.4-1 Use -h to see help about each section setup.log.full.bz2 Description: Binary data -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Robert Collins wrote: Max Bowsher wrote: Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 02:24, Vince Hoffman wrote: Havent a clean system to try a full install. however on running it to upgrade/add packages the first run crashed . on the second run all was fine and componants were added/updated perfectly. I tried running a few more times to reproduce the crash and on average about one in 5 times (very rough average) it crashed.(see attached drwatson crashlog) for log of 2 of these crashes. I'm getting this too - but only on my desktop - not my laptop. Crash frequency is only 1 in 20, as well. Ok, well this is 'not good' :}. At what point does it crash? Before the splash page appears. Ah. Can you reproduce it under gdb? If not, can you generate the line numbers from the addresses in the backtrace (hint: fire up gdb, load the .exe that you used to provoke the problem, and then list *0x000223344 ) No, can't reproduce inside gdb. The address of the crash is in the system DLL area. I will download Dr. MinGW, and try to get a backtrace that way. I suggest relocating this thread to cygwin-apps. I will post my next message there, unless told otherwise. Max. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Summary: Successful install on virgin 98 machine, I think, but I'm not sure if chmod is working correctly (due to my ignorance of how it should work on FAT-32). virgin Win98 Install From Internet All Users Unix C:\cygwin ftp://mirrors.rcn.net default package set It seems to work; I'm not actually sure what to test. I brought up a cygwin console, and did a few cd and ls commands. chmod isn't giving me the results I'd expect on UNIX (but I don't know if it should). The partition is FAT-32. $ cd /tmp $ mkdir j $ cd j $ touch p $ ls -l -rw-r--r-- $ chmod a+x p $ ls -l -rw-r--r-- $ chmod a-rwx p $ ls -l -r--r--r-- I could try some installation permutations, but I wonder if anyone has advice on how I should test the resulting installed cygwins. (Altho, I'm lazy, so I won't do too much.) Note: I've started a virgin XP test as well. (I'm using vmware, so not perfectly virgin, but close.) Should I send these types of results (which are fairly boring, when successful, but might be useful data points to have if problems turn up later, for comparison) to somewhere besides the list ? Cordially, Perry _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
virgin XP Install From Internet All Users Unix C:\cygwin ftp://mirrors.rcn.net default package set NTFS partition this time. All chmods but the last one seem the same as under UNIX. $ cd /tmp $ mkdir j $ cd j $ touch p $ ls -l -rw-r--r-- $ chmod a+x p $ ls -l -rwxr-xr-x $ chmod a-r p $ ls -l --wx--x--x $ chmod a+x p $ ls -l --wx--x--x The full ls -l output (in case ownership group matter) is like this: total 0 --wx--x--x1 Administ None0 Mar 26 20:41 p $ groups None Administrators Users $ whoami Administrator $ set | grep ntsec $ set | grep CYGWIN $ set | grep CYG Cordially, Perry _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Corrected: setup.exe beta (testing needed - really!)
Robert Collins wrote: A new release of setup.exe is imminent. There are many changes, and to reduce problems, feedback from YOU, is needed. The new version is available from http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.340.2.3.exe (binary) and http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-2.340.2.3.tar.bz2 (source). Pending any regressions being discovered, this release will become the production release in ~1 weeks time. I just tried to run it on my home XP machine, and it consistantly crashes on startup. I ran it in gdb: (gdb) run Starting program: /c/Download/Programming/CygWin/setup-2.340.2.3.exe warning: LOG: 2 Starting cygwin install, version 2.340.2.3 warning: LOG: 2 Current Directory: C:\Download\Programming\CygWin Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x78403330 in ?? () (gdb) list *0x78403330 No symbol table is loaded. Use the file command. (gdb) back #0 0x78403330 in ?? () #1 0x00425167 in ?? () #2 0x00456013 in ?? () #3 0x00401170 in ?? () #4 0x00401013 in ?? () #5 0x77e7eb69 in KERNEL32!CreateProcessInternalW () from /c/WINNT/system32/kernel32.dll Can you make a version available with debug symbols, or is that traceback good enough? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
