Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
Now that you guys don't remember the subject anymore anyway;... Larry == Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Larry At 01:42 PM 4/20/2002, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: ... Yeah, what ever happened to because we're mean? Larry LOL! Larry You know, that classic line came to my mind immediately on reading the Larry original post! ;-) Thing like that yes, yourhonours. But what does LOL mean? (it's dutch for fun, so i'm quite surprised to have read it in this sea of fire/flame-war/flame-fare;-) :wq! Daan Hoogland Unix consultants v v [EMAIL PROTECTED] OO developers \ / ### #### # ---X--- http://snow.nl # # # # # # # # / \ Snow B.V.## # # # # # # # ^ ^ Tel. (+31)30-6051501 # # # # # # # # Fax. (+31)30-6037445### # # ## ## ## -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 09:14:14AM +0200, Daan Hoogland wrote: Now that you guys don't remember the subject anymore anyway;... Larry == Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Larry At 01:42 PM 4/20/2002, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: ... Yeah, what ever happened to because we're mean? Larry LOL! Larry You know, that classic line came to my mind immediately on reading the Larry original post! ;-) Thing like that yes, yourhonours. But what does LOL mean? (it's dutch for fun, so i'm quite surprised to have read it in this sea of fire/flame-war/flame-fare;-) Laughing Out Loud Tip of the day: http://www.acronymfinder.com Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Red Hat, Inc. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
Corinna == Corinna Vinschen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Corinna On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 09:14:14AM +0200, Daan Hoogland wrote: Now that you guys don't remember the subject anymore anyway;... Larry == Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Larry At 01:42 PM 4/20/2002, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: ... Yeah, what ever happened to because we're mean? Larry LOL! Larry You know, that classic line came to my mind immediately on reading the Larry original post! ;-) Thing like that yes, yourhonours. But what does LOL mean? (it's dutch for fun, so i'm quite surprised to have read it in this sea of fire/flame-war/flame-fare;-) Corinna Laughing Out Loud Corinna Tip of the day: http://www.acronymfinder.com wdygbe Corinna Corinna Corinna -- Corinna Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Corinna Cygwin Developermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Corinna Red Hat, Inc. Corinna -- Corinna Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Corinna Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Corinna Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Corinna FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ :wq! Daan Hoogland Unix consultants v v [EMAIL PROTECTED] OO developers \ / ### #### # ---X--- http://snow.nl # # # # # # # # / \ Snow B.V.## # # # # # # # ^ ^ Tel. (+31)30-6051501 # # # # # # # # Fax. (+31)30-6037445### # # ## ## ## -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
Sorry for that last one, I ment to say thanx for the tip (of the day). Corinna == Corinna Vinschen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Corinna On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 09:14:14AM +0200, Daan Hoogland wrote: Now that you guys don't remember the subject anymore anyway;... Larry == Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Larry At 01:42 PM 4/20/2002, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: ... Yeah, what ever happened to because we're mean? Larry LOL! Larry You know, that classic line came to my mind immediately on reading the Larry original post! ;-) Thing like that yes, yourhonours. But what does LOL mean? (it's dutch for fun, so i'm quite surprised to have read it in this sea of fire/flame-war/flame-fare;-) Corinna Laughing Out Loud Corinna Tip of the day: http://www.acronymfinder.com Corinna Corinna Corinna -- Corinna Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Corinna Cygwin Developermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Corinna Red Hat, Inc. Corinna -- Corinna Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Corinna Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Corinna Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Corinna FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ :wq! Daan Hoogland Unix consultants v v [EMAIL PROTECTED] OO developers \ / ### #### # ---X--- http://snow.nl # # # # # # # # / \ Snow B.V.## # # # # # # # ^ ^ Tel. (+31)30-6051501 # # # # # # # # Fax. (+31)30-6037445### # # ## ## ## -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
Charles Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW, did it occur to anyone that the rapid and multiple responses to this email -- which, given its tone and lack of specific content qualifies as a troll by any objective measure -- serve to ENCOURAGE this sort of insistent, badgering, and rude behavior? Yeah, this is weird. People ask polite questions and get slapped with *eye roll* it's free software newbie, read the FAQ ... this guy asks *this* and people rush to his assistance. -- scott evans :: www.antisleep.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 10:34:28AM -0400, Scott Evans wrote: Charles Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW, did it occur to anyone that the rapid and multiple responses to this email -- which, given its tone and lack of specific content qualifies as a troll by any objective measure -- serve to ENCOURAGE this sort of insistent, badgering, and rude behavior? Yeah, this is weird. People ask polite questions and get slapped with *eye roll* it's free software newbie, read the FAQ ... this guy asks *this* and people rush to his assistance. It's basically because we're not mean. No, wait. That can't be right. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:55:25 -0400 Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 10:34:28AM -0400, Scott Evans wrote: Charles Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW, did it occur to anyone that the rapid and multiple responses to this email -- which, given its tone and lack of specific content qualifies as a troll by any objective measure -- serve to ENCOURAGE this sort of insistent, badgering, and rude behavior? Yeah, this is weird. People ask polite questions and get slapped with *eye roll* it's free software newbie, read the FAQ ... this guy asks *this* and people rush to his assistance. It's basically because we're not mean. No, wait. That can't be right. _We_ aren't mean, just you. :}b -- Mac :}) ** I normally forward private questions to the appropriate mail list. ** Ask Smarter: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.htm Give a hobbit a fish and he eats fish for a day. Give a hobbit a ring and he eats fish for an age. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
No, cgf isn't always mean! Psst, I'll tell you a secret: The default of mean or not toggles with every even/odd release, modulo phase of the moon 8-) Bye, Heribert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -Original Message- From: Michael A Chase [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 18:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Christopher Faylor Subject: Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING... On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:55:25 -0400 Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 10:34:28AM -0400, Scott Evans wrote: Charles Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW, did it occur to anyone that the rapid and multiple responses to this email -- which, given its tone and lack of specific content qualifies as a troll by any objective measure -- serve to ENCOURAGE this sort of insistent, badgering, and rude behavior? Yeah, this is weird. People ask polite questions and get slapped with *eye roll* it's free software newbie, read the FAQ ... this guy asks *this* and people rush to his assistance. It's basically because we're not mean. No, wait. That can't be right. _We_ aren't mean, just you. :}b -- Mac :}) -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
-Original Message- From: Bruce Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:50 AM What if you didn't install cygwin on C: ? It is not a requirement, is it? I have suspected my not installing it on C: may be the source of some things being broken, and this comment feeds my paranoia. Mine is installed on F:. C: is not a requirement. Rob -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
BTW, did it occur to anyone that the rapid and multiple responses to this email -- which, given its tone and lack of specific content qualifies as a troll by any objective measure -- serve to ENCOURAGE this sort of insistent, badgering, and rude behavior? I mean, geez -- it worked, didn't it? The guy IS getting his answers -- and very rapidly... In behavioral science, we call this positive reinforcement of aberrent behavior. Yeah, what ever happened to because we're mean? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
At 01:42 PM 4/20/2002, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: BTW, did it occur to anyone that the rapid and multiple responses to this email -- which, given its tone and lack of specific content qualifies as a troll by any objective measure -- serve to ENCOURAGE this sort of insistent, badgering, and rude behavior? I mean, geez -- it worked, didn't it? The guy IS getting his answers -- and very rapidly... In behavioral science, we call this positive reinforcement of aberrent behavior. Yeah, what ever happened to because we're mean? LOL! You know, that classic line came to my mind immediately on reading the original post! ;-) Larry Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] RFK Partners, Inc. http://www.rfk.com 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office Holliston, MA 01746 (508) 893-9889 - FAX -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
Without ANY example of what you are calling, there is NO way that assistance can be provided. Rob -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
umm calm down, maybe you could post more of your scripts and what they do and expound on this line What in god's name is /usr/local/bin on a windows machine? do you mean WHERE? not what? - Original Message - From: Schwartz, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING... I'm sure you won't put this in the intelligent question genre but... I've been using cygwin for years and I brag about it and make all my teammates install it and make my managers refuse to piss away money on MKS... Well, I think that party's over. I just installed the new distribution and every one (and I mean EVERY GODDAMN ONE) of my scripts that call any of your routines that need to know what a host or a directory are f#$king broke. What in god's name is /usr/local/bin on a windows machine? Why don't you UNIX weeneies get a grip. F#$king fix it. It used to be great. Now I can't even change a directory. I've gone back to your old, unsupported code until we can find the money to equip our team with MKS for $400 a throw. Thanks for making a great product unusable. Sincerely, Barry Schwartz -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
We're here to help you Barry. Elizabeth -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
Well Barry, I understand you're pissed off, but the changes were made for logical reasons. I'm sure that a quick skim of the FAQ would answer most of your questions. And /usr/local/bin is in /usr/local/bin on a windows box, as long as you're running a cygwin shell. Otherwise it's *probably* in C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin - that's pretty straightforward. It's worth noting that the windows find command can help you locate other things on your computer (like all folders named X11, for example, or all executables named ls). If you have specific complains about behaviour in 1.3.10 I'm sure the list could explain why things are done the way they are currently. I personally find it both useful and largely intuitive. Also - your scripts call routines? You mean like, programs? Sounds like you might want to read the documentation for cygpath too. The directory change command is cd and check your mount table. -rgm At 03:46 PM 04.19.2002 -0700, you wrote: I'm sure you won't put this in the intelligent question genre but... I've been using cygwin for years and I brag about it and make all my teammates install it and make my managers refuse to piss away money on MKS... Well, I think that party's over. I just installed the new distribution and every one (and I mean EVERY GODDAMN ONE) of my scripts that call any of your routines that need to know what a host or a directory are f#$king broke. What in god's name is /usr/local/bin on a windows machine? Why don't you UNIX weeneies get a grip. F#$king fix it. It used to be great. Now I can't even change a directory. I've gone back to your old, unsupported code until we can find the money to equip our team with MKS for $400 a throw. Thanks for making a great product unusable. Sincerely, Barry Schwartz -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
OK. Feeling better now... If one of my customers wrote me that with no examples, I'd get a kick out of it too. So... rsh must have changed. I use it in a script to move perforce clients around from NT to UNIX. The attached script, getfull.pl is the example that failed with the new program and worked with the old. Also, the semantics and output of which, ls, and cp have changed too in my opinion, not the least of which is the fau root directory and all the cygnus stuff being in /usr/local/bin which is not a real directory on my machine. I would much rather see the native paths. That is definately what the old code did and what my scripts expect. I definately do not need you guys to fix my scripts or show me how the programs work. I can handle that. It's just that it's not how I really want to spend a half a work day when I have other stuff to do. I'm also a little embarrassed since I raved about your tools and made another group adopt them for an upcomming project. Now, when they try to run my scripts, they will crap out... I'll probably have to fix them since you won't be supporting the old stuff and I need some of the tools only available in the new release. Although I need to tone down... I really do feel the unixisms creeping in. I like the semantics of the unix commands and the familiarity since I work on both platforms. But, on a windows box (my main sqeeze) I expect paths and file locations to take the windows form. Just my opinion... Thanks for getting back to me by the way. barry -Original Message- From: Chris Ellsworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 4:37 PM To: Schwartz, Barry; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING... umm calm down, maybe you could post more of your scripts and what they do and expound on this line What in god's name is /usr/local/bin on a windows machine? do you mean WHERE? not what? - Original Message - From: Schwartz, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING... I'm sure you won't put this in the intelligent question genre but... I've been using cygwin for years and I brag about it and make all my teammates install it and make my managers refuse to piss away money on MKS... Well, I think that party's over. I just installed the new distribution and every one (and I mean EVERY GODDAMN ONE) of my scripts that call any of your routines that need to know what a host or a directory are f#$king broke. What in god's name is /usr/local/bin on a windows machine? Why don't you UNIX weeneies get a grip. F#$king fix it. It used to be great. Now I can't even change a directory. I've gone back to your old, unsupported code until we can find the money to equip our team with MKS for $400 a throw. Thanks for making a great product unusable. Sincerely, Barry Schwartz -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
-Original Message- From: Schwartz, Barry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 12:30 PM To: 'Chris Ellsworth'; Schwartz, Barry; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING... OK. Feeling better now... If one of my customers wrote me that with no examples, I'd get a kick out of it too. So... rsh must have changed. I use it in a script to move perforce clients around from NT to UNIX. The attached script, getfull.pl is the example that failed with the new program and worked with the old. Also, the semantics and output of which, ls, and cp have changed too in my opinion, not the least of which is the fau root directory and all the cygnus stuff being in /usr/local/bin which is not a real directory on my machine. The cygnus stuff goes into c:\cygwin\bin aka /usr/bin, not /usr/local/bin. Are you sure you installed Cygwin via setup.exe, not from some other site? As for the tools, by and large they all support d:\foo syntax as well - but remember, if you run them within bash, the \ becomes an escape character, so you need d:\\foo for the tool to see the backslash. Rob -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
Also, the semantics and output of which, ls, and cp have changed too in my opinion, not the least of which is the fau root directory and all the cygnus stuff being in /usr/local/bin which is not a real directory on my machine. The cygnus stuff goes into c:\cygwin\bin aka /usr/bin, not /usr/local/bin. Are you sure you installed Cygwin via setup.exe, not from some other site? I'm curious to know exactly how OLD is the version of cygwin that worked for you, Barry? I mean, the 'mount' convention has been around since StoneHenge or longer -- that is, using a mount table to create a mapping between multi-rooted windows paths (A:\this, C:\that) and a single-rooted unixlike path structure (/ == root, but /cygdrive/a/this = A:\this, etc. Note that /cygdrive/X/ = X:\ is handled automagically by cygwin -- and the old mechanism (//X/ = X:\) doesn't work anymore because it's too similar to the way you access remote windows shares (//computer/share/file : what if you have a computer named 'X'?) As for the tools, by and large they all support d:\foo syntax as well - but remember, if you run them within bash, the \ becomes an escape character, so you need d:\\foo for the tool to see the backslash. Although those programs that use ':' as a delimiter in their filespec arguments may be a little confused -- but most of the tools I am talking about are fairly new compared to stonehenge, so I doubt they 'broke' on your system; your ancient installation just didn't HAVE an scp program... scp A:\\boblocal remotecomp:fred scp MAY be confused by this: 1) copy file /boblocal on computer 'A' to file ~/fred on computer 'remotecomp'? scp can't do 3rd party transfers. 2) copy local file boblocal on local disk A:\ to file ~/fred on computer remotecomp? Sure, no problem... I'm not sure which interpretation scp will use. Oh -- and one more tip: In windows (cmd.exe/command.com, etc) the following is a perfectly valid pathspec: A:/fred/george I've gotten into the habit of always using forward slashes -- in both command.com and in bash, so I don't have to worry about the 'oh yeah in bash you need to double up the backslashes' problem. --Chuck -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
Schwartz, Barry wrote: I'm sure you won't put this in the intelligent question genre but... I've been using cygwin for years and I brag about it and make all my teammates install it and make my managers refuse to piss away money on MKS... Well, I think that party's over. I just installed the new distribution and every one (and I mean EVERY GODDAMN ONE) of my scripts that call any of your routines that need to know what a host or a directory are f#$king broke. What in god's name is /usr/local/bin on a windows machine? Why don't you UNIX weeneies get a grip. F#$king fix it. It used to be great. Now I can't even change a directory. I've gone back to your old, unsupported code until we can find the money to equip our team with MKS for $400 a throw. Thanks for making a great product unusable. BTW, did it occur to anyone that the rapid and multiple responses to this email -- which, given its tone and lack of specific content qualifies as a troll by any objective measure -- serve to ENCOURAGE this sort of insistent, badgering, and rude behavior? I mean, geez -- it worked, didn't it? The guy IS getting his answers -- and very rapidly... In behavioral science, we call this positive reinforcement of aberrent behavior. --Chuck -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
Well Barry for what it is worth I think the more cygwin becomes like unix the better. After all it is a product designed to make windows work more like unix and ease porting of unix code to windows. As for the backward paths delimiters and drive letters they will make your code unable to run on unix if you want your code portable you need to not use them. As for /usr/local/bin that is very useful I can have my program put something in /usr/local/bin and it will work wither or not the OS is windows, AIX, Solaris FreeBSD or Linux. In other words I can write the script once and never change it... provided I don't add things like c:\winnt\system32\drivers\etc. If I do that then my code will not work on anything but winnt. On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 07:29:46PM -0700, Schwartz, Barry wrote: OK. Feeling better now... If one of my customers wrote me that with no examples, I'd get a kick out of it too. So... rsh must have changed. I use it in a script to move perforce clients around from NT to UNIX. The attached script, getfull.pl is the example that failed with the new program and worked with the old. Also, the semantics and output of which, ls, and cp have changed too in my opinion, not the least of which is the fau root directory and all the cygnus stuff being in /usr/local/bin which is not a real directory on my machine. I would much rather see the native paths. That is definately what the old code did and what my scripts expect. I definately do not need you guys to fix my scripts or show me how the programs work. I can handle that. It's just that it's not how I really want to spend a half a work day when I have other stuff to do. I'm also a little embarrassed since I raved about your tools and made another group adopt them for an upcomming project. Now, when they try to run my scripts, they will crap out... I'll probably have to fix them since you won't be supporting the old stuff and I need some of the tools only available in the new release. Although I need to tone down... I really do feel the unixisms creeping in. I like the semantics of the unix commands and the familiarity since I work on both platforms. But, on a windows box (my main sqeeze) I expect paths and file locations to take the windows form. Just my opinion... Thanks for getting back to me by the way. barry -Original Message- From: Chris Ellsworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 4:37 PM To: Schwartz, Barry; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING... umm calm down, maybe you could post more of your scripts and what they do and expound on this line What in god's name is /usr/local/bin on a windows machine? do you mean WHERE? not what? - Original Message - From: Schwartz, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING... I'm sure you won't put this in the intelligent question genre but... I've been using cygwin for years and I brag about it and make all my teammates install it and make my managers refuse to piss away money on MKS... Well, I think that party's over. I just installed the new distribution and every one (and I mean EVERY GODDAMN ONE) of my scripts that call any of your routines that need to know what a host or a directory are f#$king broke. What in god's name is /usr/local/bin on a windows machine? Why don't you UNIX weeneies get a grip. F#$king fix it. It used to be great. Now I can't even change a directory. I've gone back to your old, unsupported code until we can find the money to equip our team with MKS for $400 a throw. Thanks for making a great product unusable. Sincerely, Barry Schwartz -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Slowly and surely the unix crept up on the Nintendo user ... Wayne Willcox I will not eat green eggs and ham [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will not eat them Sam I Am!! A wise person makes his own decisions, a weak one obeys public opinion. -- Chinese proverb -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Double back slash. Was: Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
I was wondering if anyone else thinks d:\\foo is too complicated... or rather that it could be simplifed to d:/foo. Or if you made the shell read :\ as :\ then we would have a more uniform interface... Hmmm... I'm sure that this issue is more complicated than I understand at this point. I'm just remembering how much I appreciated it when samba made their commands parse //host/share as well as host\\share. In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Collins writes: As for the tools, by and large they all support d:\foo syntax as well - but remember, if you run them within bash, the \ becomes an escape character, so you need d:\\foo for the tool to see the backslash. Rob -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Milton Calnek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Everything should be as simple as possible - but no simpler. -- Albert Einstein as quoted by Peter G. Neumann in CHATS Principles -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Double back slash. Was: Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
Milton - d:/foo works now (in cygwin progs like bash) It even works in windows file dialogs -- but not in cmd.exe or command.com, contrary to my post a few minutes ago. I got confused. --chuck Milton Calnek wrote: I was wondering if anyone else thinks d:\\foo is too complicated... or rather that it could be simplifed to d:/foo. Or if you made the shell read :\ as :\ then we would have a more uniform interface... Hmmm... I'm sure that this issue is more complicated than I understand at this point. I'm just remembering how much I appreciated it when samba made their commands parse //host/share as well as host\\share. In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Collins writes: As for the tools, by and large they all support d:\foo syntax as well - but remember, if you run them within bash, the \ becomes an escape character, so you need d:\\foo for the tool to see the backslash. Rob -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Milton Calnek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Everything should be as simple as possible - but no simpler. -- Albert Einstein as quoted by Peter G. Neumann in CHATS Principles -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Why did you guys break EVERYTHING...
Charles Wilson wrote: Oh -- and one more tip: In windows (cmd.exe/command.com, etc) the following is a perfectly valid pathspec: A:/fred/george I've gotten into the habit of always using forward slashes -- in both command.com and in bash, so I don't have to worry about the 'oh yeah in bash you need to double up the backslashes' problem. Oops -- misinformation alert. A:/fred/george works in windows GUI file dialogs; it DOESN'T work in cmd.exe. (I use 'raw' cmd.exe so rarely anymore, I somehow conflated windows GUI file dialogs with cmd.exe. sorry) --Chuck -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
