Re: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2
On 2021-12-13 23:31, Marco Atzeri wrote: On 14.12.2021 07:17, Brian Inglis wrote: On 2021-12-13 16:26, Kutty, Rejeesh wrote: I uninstalled Beyond Trust with our IT help, rebooted, same behavior. I then came upon another thread that talks about the compression. I didn't build it, I just decompressed it and now setup-64bit works fine. For some reason, 32bit doesn't have any of this problem. If it is not too much of trouble, I would request that you provide an uncompressed version too. The file size is not that bad, It came to be about 5MB only. Perhaps, suggest in the installation instructions to try in case it doesn't launch? If you have that problem, you have an app in the BLODA. Are you still running BeyondTrust or another AV? You need to get Cygwin setup exes using upx bypassed or whitelisted by your support or the vendor. What was the URL of the thread about compression? Which file did you download about 5MB, from which URL, how did you download and decompress it: using which tools, commands, options, and what were the before and after sizes? There appear to be no Cygwin setup files about 5MB: he means 5MB after decompressing the 1.3Mb setup-x86_64.exe If I remember right upx is used for setup compression Why would anyone want or need to do that manually: that implies a badly written app in the BLODA interfering with decompression, and that hasn't had any mentions as a problem for a couple of years! -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in binary units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.] -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2
On 14.12.2021 07:17, Brian Inglis wrote: On 2021-12-13 16:26, Kutty, Rejeesh wrote: I uninstalled Beyond Trust with our IT help, rebooted, same behavior. I then came upon another thread that talks about the compression. I didn't build it, I just decompressed it and now setup-64bit works fine. For some reason, 32bit doesn't have any of this problem. If it is not too much of trouble, I would request that you provide an uncompressed version too. The file size is not that bad, It came to be about 5MB only. Perhaps, suggest in the installation instructions to try in case it doesn't launch? What was the URL of the thread about compression? Which file did you download about 5MB, from which URL, how did you download and decompress it: using which tools, commands, options, and what were the before and after sizes? There appear to be no Cygwin setup files about 5MB: he means 5MB after decompressing the 1.3Mb setup-x86_64.exe If I remember right upx is used for setup compression -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2
On 2021-12-13 16:26, Kutty, Rejeesh wrote: I uninstalled Beyond Trust with our IT help, rebooted, same behavior. I then came upon another thread that talks about the compression. I didn't build it, I just decompressed it and now setup-64bit works fine. For some reason, 32bit doesn't have any of this problem. If it is not too much of trouble, I would request that you provide an uncompressed version too. The file size is not that bad, It came to be about 5MB only. Perhaps, suggest in the installation instructions to try in case it doesn't launch? What was the URL of the thread about compression? Which file did you download about 5MB, from which URL, how did you download and decompress it: using which tools, commands, options, and what were the before and after sizes? There appear to be no Cygwin setup files about 5MB: https://cygwin.com/ __ setup-x86.exe 15-Jul-2021 11:591252371 setup-x86.exe.sig 15-Jul-2021 11:59661 setup-x86_64.exe 15-Jul-2021 12:051355283 setup-x86_64.exe.sig 15-Jul-2021 12:05661 sha512.sum 15-Jul-2021 13:37291 key/pubring.asc13-Mar-2020 16:30 3049 __ $ lynx -dump -nolist -nonumbers https://muug.ca/mirror/cygwin/x86/ Index of /mirror/cygwin/x86/ __ ../ release/ 09-Dec-2021 06:05 - setup.bz2 13-Dec-2021 05:50 4355068 setup.bz2.sig 13-Dec-2021 05:50 566 setup.ini 13-Dec-2021 05:5018364231 setup.ini.sig 13-Dec-2021 05:50 566 setup.xz 13-Dec-2021 05:50 3387988 setup.xz.sig 13-Dec-2021 05:50 566 setup.zst 13-Dec-2021 05:50 3623348 setup.zst.sig 13-Dec-2021 05:50 661 sha512.sum 13-Dec-2021 06:141278 __ $ lynx -dump -nolist -nonumbers https://muug.ca/mirror/cygwin/x86_64/ Index of /mirror/cygwin/x86_64/ __ ../ release/ 09-Dec-2021 06:05 - setup.bz2 13-Dec-2021 05:50 4342309 setup.bz2.sig 13-Dec-2021 05:50 566 setup.ini 13-Dec-2021 05:5018405663 setup.ini.sig 13-Dec-2021 05:50 566 setup.xz 13-Dec-2021 05:51 3378648 setup.xz.sig 13-Dec-2021 05:51 566 setup.zst 13-Dec-2021 05:50 3579442 setup.zst.sig 13-Dec-2021 05:51 661 sha512.sum 13-Dec-2021 06:141278 __ Where possible you should normally download from local and/or official Cygwin mirror sites using https with Cygwin utilities such as curl -JOR/wget/wget2 -N which avoid or handle inflight compression transparently, any available sha512.sum with which you can check the integrity of the downloaded files using sha512sum -c, and the Cygwin key with which you can check the integrity of the executables and their signatures using gpg/gpg2 --verify. -Original Message- From: Cygwin On Behalf Of Brian Inglis Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 12:39 AM To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2 [External] On 2021-12-10 13:19, Kutty, Rejeesh wrote: Renamed that DLL -- same behavior, and same access violation in WinDbg. Killed all Beyond Trust Services/Tasks -- same behavior. You will probably need to restart Windows after any changes in order to unload or reload DLLs and associated data. Does WinDBG still show the DLL loaded? > No it didn't, but it reported access violation after RPCRT4.dll. > (This is the RPC API, as per google). Many of these apps have difficulty handling dynamic modification, cleanly removing themselves from the call or message chains they insert themselves into, transparently passing along arbitrary calls, data, events, or messages, especially when application code is multithreaded and reentrant using mutexes and waits. Beyond Trust is on the Cygwin Big List of Dodgy Apps: poorly written (often so-called "anti-malware", "anti-virus", or "security") software that monitors, logs, blocks, and/or interferes with normal operation of many applications, with effects sometimes indistinguishable from malware, and known to prevent Cygwin working properly; see: https://urldefense.com/
RE: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2
I uninstalled Beyond Trust with our IT help, rebooted, same behavior. I then came upon another thread that talks about the compression. I didn't build it, I just decompressed it and now setup-64bit works fine. For some reason, 32bit doesn't have any of this problem. If it is not too much of trouble, I would request that you provide an uncompressed version too. The file size is not that bad, It came to be about 5MB only. Perhaps, suggest in the installation instructions to try in case it doesn't launch? Thanks for all your help. -Original Message- From: Cygwin On Behalf Of Brian Inglis Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 12:39 AM To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2 [External] On 2021-12-10 13:19, Kutty, Rejeesh wrote: >>> Renamed that DLL -- same behavior, and same access violation in WinDbg. >>> Killed all Beyond Trust Services/Tasks -- same behavior. You will probably need to restart Windows after any changes in order to unload or reload DLLs and associated data. >> Does WinDBG still show the DLL loaded? > No it didn't, but it reported access violation after RPCRT4.dll. > (This is the RPC API, as per google). Many of these apps have difficulty handling dynamic modification, cleanly removing themselves from the call or message chains they insert themselves into, transparently passing along arbitrary calls, data, events, or messages, especially when application code is multithreaded and reentrant using mutexes and waits. Beyond Trust is on the Cygwin Big List of Dodgy Apps: poorly written (often so-called "anti-malware", "anti-virus", or "security") software that monitors, logs, blocks, and/or interferes with normal operation of many applications, with effects sometimes indistinguishable from malware, and known to prevent Cygwin working properly; see: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cygwin.com/faq/faq.html*faq.using.bloda__;Iw!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!uPaRC6ohLqsjqrbgUACGkx243avIO2jUMYZ09x5cgOrHWncL_fmuGb_5k5qPX0GSDDg$ Beyond Trust has caused problems because its certs became outdated unless you kept the product and its certs updated. Try updating the product and check its certs are up to date in the cert store. If that fails you may need to raise a case with the product vendor regarding Cygwin 64; especially useful to mention: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.cygwin.com/faq.html*faq.api.fork__;Iw!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!uPaRC6ohLqsjqrbgUACGkx243avIO2jUMYZ09x5cgOrHWncL_fmuGb_5k5qP00bIrrM$ -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in binary units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.] -- Problem reports: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cygwin.com/problems.html__;!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!uPaRC6ohLqsjqrbgUACGkx243avIO2jUMYZ09x5cgOrHWncL_fmuGb_5k5qP-FRJ2uE$ FAQ: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cygwin.com/faq/__;!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!uPaRC6ohLqsjqrbgUACGkx243avIO2jUMYZ09x5cgOrHWncL_fmuGb_5k5qPOErRlRs$ Documentation: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cygwin.com/docs.html__;!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!uPaRC6ohLqsjqrbgUACGkx243avIO2jUMYZ09x5cgOrHWncL_fmuGb_5k5qPWiY-_HE$ Unsubscribe info: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cygwin.com/ml/*unsubscribe-simple__;Iw!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!uPaRC6ohLqsjqrbgUACGkx243avIO2jUMYZ09x5cgOrHWncL_fmuGb_5k5qP1DBErDc$ -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2
On 2021-12-10 13:19, Kutty, Rejeesh wrote: Renamed that DLL -- same behavior, and same access violation in WinDbg. Killed all Beyond Trust Services/Tasks -- same behavior. You will probably need to restart Windows after any changes in order to unload or reload DLLs and associated data. Does WinDBG still show the DLL loaded? > No it didn't, but it reported access violation after RPCRT4.dll. > (This is the RPC API, as per google). Many of these apps have difficulty handling dynamic modification, cleanly removing themselves from the call or message chains they insert themselves into, transparently passing along arbitrary calls, data, events, or messages, especially when application code is multithreaded and reentrant using mutexes and waits. Beyond Trust is on the Cygwin Big List of Dodgy Apps: poorly written (often so-called "anti-malware", "anti-virus", or "security") software that monitors, logs, blocks, and/or interferes with normal operation of many applications, with effects sometimes indistinguishable from malware, and known to prevent Cygwin working properly; see: https://cygwin.com/faq/faq.html#faq.using.bloda Beyond Trust has caused problems because its certs became outdated unless you kept the product and its certs updated. Try updating the product and check its certs are up to date in the cert store. If that fails you may need to raise a case with the product vendor regarding Cygwin 64; especially useful to mention: https://www.cygwin.com/faq.html#faq.api.fork -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in binary units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.] -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
RE: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2
No it didn't, but it reported access violation after RPCRT4.dll. (This is the RPC API, as per google). -Original Message- From: Lavrentiev, Anton (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [C] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 3:17 PM To: Kutty, Rejeesh ; cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: RE: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2 [External] > Renamed that DLL -- same behavior, and same access violation in WinDbg. > Killed all Beyond Trust Services/Tasks -- same behavior. Does WinDBG still show the DLL loaded? Anton Lavrentiev Contractor NIH/NLM/NCBI -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
RE: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2
> Renamed that DLL -- same behavior, and same access violation in WinDbg. > Killed all Beyond Trust Services/Tasks -- same behavior. Does WinDBG still show the DLL loaded? Anton Lavrentiev Contractor NIH/NLM/NCBI -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
RE: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2
I tried two things (though may not make sense). Renamed that DLL -- same behavior, and same access violation in WinDbg. Killed all Beyond Trust Services/Tasks -- same behavior. -Original Message- From: Cygwin On Behalf Of Ken Brown Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 1:29 PM To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2 [External] On 12/10/2021 12:12 PM, Kutty, Rejeesh wrote: > Google says it is part of the Beyond Trust stuff, for security? > I couldn't find anything that tells me how to disable it. > Is this DLL the problem? Could be. Is Beyond Trust something that you have control over? Can you uninstall it, or temporarily suspend it, or tell it to exclude certain directories? Ken -- Problem reports: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cygwin.com/problems.html__;!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!svGaMBRZaWA6cka50TBFP2PYTAVYdIG7Pi8yVgvvn_3Up9m8v_SPOmZkY2mLWW7n9z8$ FAQ: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cygwin.com/faq/__;!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!svGaMBRZaWA6cka50TBFP2PYTAVYdIG7Pi8yVgvvn_3Up9m8v_SPOmZkY2mLuvozMME$ Documentation: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cygwin.com/docs.html__;!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!svGaMBRZaWA6cka50TBFP2PYTAVYdIG7Pi8yVgvvn_3Up9m8v_SPOmZkY2mLJd1xOEo$ Unsubscribe info: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cygwin.com/ml/*unsubscribe-simple__;Iw!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!svGaMBRZaWA6cka50TBFP2PYTAVYdIG7Pi8yVgvvn_3Up9m8v_SPOmZkY2mL0sP5jXE$ -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2
On 12/10/2021 12:12 PM, Kutty, Rejeesh wrote: Google says it is part of the Beyond Trust stuff, for security? I couldn't find anything that tells me how to disable it. Is this DLL the problem? Could be. Is Beyond Trust something that you have control over? Can you uninstall it, or temporarily suspend it, or tell it to exclude certain directories? Ken -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
RE: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2
Google says it is part of the Beyond Trust stuff, for security? I couldn't find anything that tells me how to disable it. Is this DLL the problem? -Original Message- From: Cygwin On Behalf Of Ken Brown Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 11:45 AM To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2 [External] On 12/10/2021 9:39 AM, Kutty, Rejeesh wrote: > I can't launch setup-x86_64.exe, but setup-x86 runs fine. [...] > ModLoad: 7ffd`4371 7ffd`4374a000 > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\privman64.dll What is this and why is it being loaded? Ken -- Problem reports: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cygwin.com/problems.html__;!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!pcqILE6VYZ3kuNafrVyFcuPl78qLVLvCZ8TDCtcZOeP39W6lRqsjZ7q5B_U2w1cPnrY$ FAQ: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cygwin.com/faq/__;!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!pcqILE6VYZ3kuNafrVyFcuPl78qLVLvCZ8TDCtcZOeP39W6lRqsjZ7q5B_U2LSeCxDU$ Documentation: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cygwin.com/docs.html__;!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!pcqILE6VYZ3kuNafrVyFcuPl78qLVLvCZ8TDCtcZOeP39W6lRqsjZ7q5B_U2TGoD1FI$ Unsubscribe info: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cygwin.com/ml/*unsubscribe-simple__;Iw!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!pcqILE6VYZ3kuNafrVyFcuPl78qLVLvCZ8TDCtcZOeP39W6lRqsjZ7q5B_U23r0nYsU$ -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2
On 12/10/2021 9:39 AM, Kutty, Rejeesh wrote: I can't launch setup-x86_64.exe, but setup-x86 runs fine. [...] ModLoad: 7ffd`4371 7ffd`4374a000 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\privman64.dll What is this and why is it being loaded? Ken -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
RE: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2
MD5SUM from bash shell: (seems to match) [/cygdrive/c/Users/rkutty/Downloads]> md5sum setup-*x86_64.exe 82f0a6cf3a2b228acf0b2009dc6f6d42 *setup-2.909.x86_64.exe 02bf8c1db4b4e5ead39c1812bd13 *setup-2.910-3-g217aad.x86_64.exe be948258a63ff971c6f21ebc2a8af43e *setup-2.910.x86_64.exe 82f0a6cf3a2b228acf0b2009dc6f6d42 *setup-x86_64.exe Trying in a different folder on command prompt: c:\TEMP>setup-2.910.x86_64.exe -V But If I run 32bit: c:\TEMP>setup-x86.exe -V c:\TEMP>Cygwin setup 2.909 c:\TEMP> -Original Message- From: Cygwin On Behalf Of Marco Atzeri Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 10:31 AM To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2 [External] On 10.12.2021 16:19, Kutty, Rejeesh wrote: > > Thanks, > > I did try deleting, re-downloading many times, no luck. > I also tried the following versions from the link you gave me > (cygwin.com/setup/): > > setup-2.909.x86_64.exe > setup-2.910.x86_64.exe > setup-2.910-3-g217aad.x86_64.exe > > All behave the same way. > can you check the files ? $ md5sum setup-*x86_64.exe be948258a63ff971c6f21ebc2a8af43e *setup-2.910.x86_64.exe 02bf8c1db4b4e5ead39c1812bd13 *setup-2.910-3-g217aad.x86_64.exe 82f0a6cf3a2b228acf0b2009dc6f6d42 *setup-x86_64.exe additional, as I see CommandLine: C:\Users\rkutty\Downloads\setup-x86_64.exe Can you also try to run it in a different directory like C:\TEMP ? -- Problem reports: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cygwin.com/problems.html__;!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!twvpymEizoN61iP3hZzPtTY-xon0FL_RCITMP0pPncMKipVHe8kqbEY7FV-ItQuIXZY$ FAQ: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cygwin.com/faq/__;!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!twvpymEizoN61iP3hZzPtTY-xon0FL_RCITMP0pPncMKipVHe8kqbEY7FV-I2HWLH_w$ Documentation: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cygwin.com/docs.html__;!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!twvpymEizoN61iP3hZzPtTY-xon0FL_RCITMP0pPncMKipVHe8kqbEY7FV-ImxtVucA$ Unsubscribe info: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cygwin.com/ml/*unsubscribe-simple__;Iw!!A3Ni8CS0y2Y!twvpymEizoN61iP3hZzPtTY-xon0FL_RCITMP0pPncMKipVHe8kqbEY7FV-Ir-t2QcA$ -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2
On 10.12.2021 16:19, Kutty, Rejeesh wrote: Thanks, I did try deleting, re-downloading many times, no luck. I also tried the following versions from the link you gave me (cygwin.com/setup/): setup-2.909.x86_64.exe setup-2.910.x86_64.exe setup-2.910-3-g217aad.x86_64.exe All behave the same way. can you check the files ? $ md5sum setup-*x86_64.exe be948258a63ff971c6f21ebc2a8af43e *setup-2.910.x86_64.exe 02bf8c1db4b4e5ead39c1812bd13 *setup-2.910-3-g217aad.x86_64.exe 82f0a6cf3a2b228acf0b2009dc6f6d42 *setup-x86_64.exe additional, as I see CommandLine: C:\Users\rkutty\Downloads\setup-x86_64.exe Can you also try to run it in a different directory like C:\TEMP ? -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Re: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2
Thanks, I did try deleting, re-downloading many times, no luck. I also tried the following versions from the link you gave me (cygwin.com/setup/): setup-2.909.x86_64.exe setup-2.910.x86_64.exe setup-2.910-3-g217aad.x86_64.exe All behave the same way. -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: setup-x86_64.exe does not start in win10 20H2
On 10.12.2021 15:39, Kutty, Rejeesh wrote: Hi, I can't launch setup-x86_64.exe, but setup-x86 runs fine. Hi Kutty, It works fine on my W10 21H1 May be a corrupted download ? Can you download it again ? You can also try the last setup snapshots: https://sourceware.org/pipermail/cygwin/2021-December/250130.html -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple